 challenges and what are the ways forward and what are the legal aspects if one wants to start a legal field in the legal field, the startups. You all believe that various fields have been entered into it as to the online research, then information platform, legal services, technology platforms, legal aid and other offline online courses, et cetera. But as to what would be the way forward where we can learn about it, we requested Dr. Kalpej Gupta and associate professor of law in Parul University, Vadodara, who also runs by another pro bono group and consequently having created his own name in that sort of field of startups and he has also been mentoring a lot of people into the legal compliance, et cetera. Dr. Kalpej was kind enough to see to our request, to share his knowledge and he's also sharing the PPTs. We would also share it in the different groups without taking much time since we know that it's the office hours for the lawyers. I request Dr. Kalpej to take things forward. You can unmute yourself, Dr. Kalpej. Yeah, thank you very much Vikas for this invitation. Yesterday we were talking with what topics what titles should be put so that more and more people can join in and then learn about this thing. They finally decided that we should put this topic so at least people will come to know that this is the topic and we should join to learn something. So I'm starting with my presentation. Please feel free to stop me at any point of time including my presentation. I hope the screen is visible. Yeah, because the screen is visible. Because the screen is visible. Yeah, so let me start. So thank you very much again Vikasi and the team beyond law CLC for organizing this webinar on the start of the innovation legal field. So let me start. So whenever I'm taking the, this like when physical session is there, the interaction I start with these questions. I ask questions to students specifically. So like what they want to do after law so there are a lot of options we already know like we have professionals in this webinar and they're also watching online on. So they're going to become advocates, just law teachers and law officers, consultants. So in a variety of you can join politics also. That's again, another option by, there are many people that have joined politics after being law. And the last one, like I just put up the word there. We all of us, we know the word entrepreneur and different, you know, other words also come up like social entrepreneur, entrepreneur, social entrepreneur, tech entrepreneur, woman entrepreneur, right? Different kinds of the nomenclature has come up. So legalpreneur, I would say like the person who's starting with some legal startups, right? We know what is startup we see that's what is a startup. So these are the three things to be pointed upon. Like what do you mean by startup? So I don't, you know, like remember or try to define what is startup. You can say the startup is a young company, right? And that's for the ministry. Like there's also defined both for the incentive purpose. Okay, this will be the called as a startup for the incentive purpose. Otherwise you can say in a plain language it's a young company, started a few months back, few years back that you can say. And the second thing, why startup needed? The answer will be in the one line. There is a problem and then you want to solve that problem we have to innovative with your innovation, right? You know, innovative approach. So that will be a startup. You can't say, okay, it's already existing and then you wanna start coming with your startup initiative or venture and there is nothing new and there is so I won't call it as a startup. So problem is there and you want to solve that problem with your innovative approach. The last thing they say, why we're talking the touching upon this why startup succeed? The reason they say one very good tech talk is there that's if I get the time otherwise I will share it with all the audience. The reason like why startup succeed like sometimes you say, okay, I have a lot of good idea good team, good revenue model, good business plan and a lot of things are there. So again, I believe like the speed, right? There's a one tech talk as I told you why startup succeed by Bill Gross. So he believes in like, you know, the timing where the good timing and then you come with startups will be success, right? So that's the thing. So now startup, you can see there are very few definition I have just taken from various places. So you can say startup is a young company, you know and the startup usually small initially finance operated by handful founders and the individuals and they want to serve some segment of the society. It's an entrepreneurial venture, new business open on repeat table scalable business model. It's focused on the rapid growth and the potential for substance that everyone so these are some definition formula. So you can call it as a young company started few years, few months back, you can call it. I love this definition because like it talks about the problem and there's uncertainty. So startup is a company working to solve a problem that the solution is not obvious and success is not guaranteed. So everything is clear, okay, there's no success. So, you know, there's no excitement in doing that activity. Right? So you think, okay, there's a problem like specifically the legal sector will discuss like we see a lot of, you know, big judgments are there and then how to summarize those judgment in a very short span of time. So there are some platforms are there. So that's what we want to solve those issue and then we never know because many people require a lot of a lot of money also because it's involved artificially intelligent others, you know, things are also involved in learning those kinds of startup and they'll take you to the next level. So all of you, once you have about this startup and get completed in a five-year non-chain by non-over-primelist in 2015. So based upon the key pillars, it talks about the simplification of handholding because certainly what used to happen is a very difficult task to start a business. So it's the procedure simplified and then the handhold of new startups, the ventures from the starting and the help those startups and then a different point of the stages. Second thing talks about the funding support incentive. Different incubators are there, different startup policy schemes are there at the central and state level. So that funding and the incentive to provide you to startups and the industry academia partnership incubation. So incubators you must be aware about, there are many incubators are there set up by university colleges and the government state level and the central level government also they are set up. So what they do, they provide funding to different university startup and then from there, students get the funding while they are in the school and colleges also. Like other innovation is also there, they help students and the school students also think and come up with something very good idea. Last two years, the ranking is done by Ministry of Commerce. So you can see different cadets are there and the Gujarat is in top, I will tell you the reason why it is in the top and different category you can see top performers, leaders, aspiring leaders. So different states are there in different categories. So this is 2018 ranking and 2019 ranking again, Gujarat is in top. The reason why this is the, we have in Gujarat, we have SSIP policy called students startup innovation policy. So education department, government of Gujarat they have given money to government and private institution also. So the students get two lakh rupees fund while they are into their colleges. So very good. And the good thing about that, this policy is that they don't ask money back. Well, sometimes what happens that there are investors, they're investing in particular venture. So definitely they will be asking some returns and stake in the particular venture. So it's not that in the policy. So that's why, and then some of the states also working on this kind of policy to be implemented in their respective states. And recently, under the SSIP policy education department, government of Gujarat they have set up this IHUB in the section eight company. All of you must be aware about what is section eight company. So it's a not for profit company. And incubators will support students startups and they are set up in this colleges and universities. So basically they support their not for profit company. They support in the student startup. They fund them, they mentor them, guide them in a variety of ways. So this is a very good initiative by the GPC department, government of Gujarat. Now see, these are the criteria we'll take only one minute regarding this. So how ranking is done. So you can see DI preparation department to industrial promotion policy. Now it's internal trade. The name has been changed. Now you can see these are the parameters like handholding startups and easy, easy in compliance with the regulation, infrastructure, R&D, human capital, assistance to fund raising through fiscal incentives, marketing support, mentoring, the incubation center. So these are the things parameter on that ranking was also done and then the Gujarat in the top for last two years. Now for the, what is startups? Again, for the incentive purpose as I told you in the beginning. So startup like up to the seven years data incorporation maybe in public limited company, partnership or LLP. So the seven years it will call as a startup and biotechnology it's a 10 years. For the incentive purpose, keep this thing in mind and the turnover should not exceed 25 crore rupees. And the red line you can see when you're talking about startup you should do something, there's a couple of things should come to your mind. Okay, there's a problem. Okay, you want to solve that problem and this talks about innovation, right? Innovation and development of improvement of product or processor services. So that is essential to call your venture as a startup and obviously to be eligible for the getting support from the state or center level departments. So again, so splitting of the existing company it won't be called a startup, it should be something new. Okay, you are coming something new in the market. So already you are having a company and splitting and starting company. So that won't be eligible to get the support under this scheme under the ministry of commerce and industries. Now you can see the headline. This is the reason like we lack innovation we tried to copy probably whatever is already available. Now you can see 90% of India startup will fail because of lack of innovation. There are different studies you can see 90 to 95% they fail in the first five years because what we do already, whatever is there so we try to copy and try to replicate those things but in a few years, right? We tried to show they're not able to cope with the market and to reach that level. And their survival becomes very difficult and they are out of the market. And the last thing is 77% of venture capital is surveyed that Indian startup lack new technology or unique business models. That's the issue with the Indian startup, the system. This are the like some of example you can see Uber already it was there. So we come up with Ola and then Amazon it was there and then there's a Flipkart and then Spotify we have Ghana.com. So there are a variety of examples are available around us. So we can see there's a copy of particular platform or product or services. Now, when it comes to legal startups I was talking with a few days back I was talking to one of the professor for IMDubb but he was the director at IMBanglore. So what is there in the legal startup once we're talking about the legal startup? So like practicing and then starting law firm then I see it sir practicing and starting a law firm is not a startup until unless there's some innovative approach. There are some law firms they are doing wonderful job and they are assisting startup to legal compliance in setting up for the firms. So I call them a startup because ultimately they're supporting and they're helping startup to initiate their business. So you can see startup is a newly formed provider providing innovative product or services to improve legal services delivery. Okay. And the last line you can also see the consulting and practicing in a law firm it's not a startup until unless there is an innovative approach. Now in legal delivery also you can include one thing also like a legal aid. There are some platform like they also require innovation in providing legal aid. The first startup there I will discuss like at the time. So they started by law students and advocate also they are providing legal aid services to the help of innovation. So that's a very good thing. Now we can classify this legal startup in four way B2C, B2B, B2G and B2L. Now B2C is a business to customer and B2B is a business to business B2G is a business to government and B2L is a business to lawyer. So let's discuss the first one. So like look customer and customer like you want some support like finding a lawyer. Okay. I can find a lawyer and search on the various platforms are there so I can find a lawyer online do to yourself. Some, you know, platforms are there. So you can just, you know, put your basic details in your documents. It's there. Their documentation drafting all kinds of things are there. Online legal aid as I just told you there are some platforms they're providing, you know, there's innovation in providing legal aid when different platforms are they come up. So free legal aid, right? Free legal services are also there. So directly it reaches to customers. It's called B2C. Now, sorry, in B2B again, there are business houses, you know, a little business B2B business to business. So finding a lawyer again, business houses and they also require the legal assistance. They also can get the lawyer online. Managing legal supply chain. Okay. How to starting from different cases to and then the supply chain entire supply chain that can be managed. Legal processing also seen earlier like when I was my LLV days, so I used to okay this, you know, VPOS their business process is also seeing and that's where this LPO was also there. Now I can't see it's very much popular in India. And compliance is contract management. So that can be seen from business to business segment. B2G again, it's providing service to the government. Like some of the webinar and seminar also workshop students, you know, the audience, they ask the participants, how will you convince, you know, government? So I told them how you convince the government regarding your initiative and startup and then innovative approach. I told them, you just come up very, you know, some very path breaking things. So definitely it's exciting. And there's a solving the government's problem like tendency of cases and, you know, different other issues are there with the judicial systems or other ministry or mechanism also. So in that case, like for example, you can just come up with the, you know, online dispute resolution on the platform and the government, it's appeals to government. So that can be adopted. You can have a new software app for the judiciary also. So that can be, you can help be helpful to the government with your startup. Now last one, B2L like business to lawyer, like lawyer to lawyer networking initiatives can be the legal research, analytics, legal education, training, there's some platform where you know, legal where the schools, they have run up a client case management from starting to end. Like, you know, like legal, the analytics, you can see that different places are there. They are based upon the artificial intelligence, right? So that way they are helping to law firm, big law firm, they use the like case mind. There are some example. So we'll see like, you can see these are the, some example I've just put up for you understanding. So law tools, you can see, I will discuss very few. So law tools, you can see to sister, they started this platform to know to, so you can say legal awareness platform, you can call it. So in this, to sister, they started this platform. So everybody knows their cartoons. So in this, they started and they come up with two additional cartoon books. So they explained law with the help of the cartoons and the stories. Law briefs again, some, half of them, they are my students. That's why I know them personally, how they started. So that's why I put up for you better explanation. Law brief again, 2016, just passed off his students, Aditya, his student from GNLU, and then he started this platform when he was in second year. So he was having difficulty, you know, like there are cases are very long and they started this, you know, making briefs of the cases with the help of a batchmate. Live law, everybody knows how they grown exponentially last eight, nine years. Locked-topers in the bottom, you can see. So, and now they are coming with variation, very good traffic is there in the live or locked-topers. So now they started, you know, subscription and then, you know, advertisement, they have started charging money because when I remember around seven, eight years back, so there are some articles also I have written for a live law. So now I'm not able to also access because now we know the status subscription. Then knowledge teach everybody is also knowing this, regarding conference, seminar, locked-topers, same thing. Case mine, again, left side, you can see is regarding based upon the artificial intelligence, like, you know, like summarize the cases in a very short span of time. Recently, I saw that there is a new, you know, segment. You can see like particular judge, like I'm a judge, so how many cases, give a trend in how many cases I given in favor or against the judgment. So that's also very good analysis done by this platform. Pro Bono India, that's my initiative. I will talk later on. Anyone, again, regarding the online courses he started around 11 years back, he's alumni of Gujarat National Law University. Next question, again, it's a social legal startup, we can say, both are from alumni of Gujarat National Law University and they did the master from the Pennsylvania University and they taught and they're for last six years and they're now active in, you know, Delhi. Super lawyer, again, they covered, you know, different interviews by lawyers and the legal personalities on this platform. GRTC intern, you can see in the bottom, so it's a student from the UPS there also. So, you know, internship we also feel very like difficult as a faculty also like to play student in a particular good law firm. The same thing, if you look at the other side, law firm also, they don't get, you know, quality of students for the research. So in that situation, like, you know, what happens? So they started and they got the support from the praram, you know, Siri Lemarch and Mangadas, must be our law, the biggest law firm in India. They started this legal, you know, tech incubators last year, I will discuss those things. So, GRTC is one of the three they funded and supported three platform. GRTC intern is also one of that platform. So very good initiative to bridge the gap and get the, this regarding internship, the legal, you know, the internship law firm. So very good platforms. Right side, you can say law learning, again, he's my students. I think he's in our final year, quarter fifth year. So he is offering, you know, very, you know, whether courses on law and the very cheapest, I would say, in India where active courses started. And so these are some example, Lex ADR again in the bottom, you can see is again, alumni of GNLU. So we started this platform on ADR. So these are some mechanisms are different, like, you know, for the legal awareness and then, you know, socio-legal startups, AI base, and the, and then information like live law, locked up with their information platform. So variety of way you can see how the legal startups have come up. Now, for last, I would say last eight months, I have seen so many, you know, legal startups. Let me call it as a legal startup because they started something in the legal field. So these are the some, you know, I have put up, I have not, I would say, not less than 40 initiative startups have come up from the law students in last eight months, I would say. So most of like what they are doing, you can see this all in the legal forum, law premises again is a symbiosis law school, Pune students, some with the, there's a socio-legal startups, law essential, like Kanuniat legal view. So most of the startups in what they are doing, you know, they want to become our next live law octopus. So whatever confidence saving us are there in them, you know, and then they try to put it on the, that platform. So at least, you know, that is fine. Like, let me tell you, for us, like raw material is like act rules, regulation, judgment, that is a raw material for us. How you realize those thing in prison before all the, you know, like, and then like it's a legal fraternity and the other people also like a legal organization required by all the citizens. So in that case, you can see these are the some, and the many startups have come up and there is no, I have not seen something path breaking in that. Some try to replicate whatever is already available. So this is an example. I was, so I was a like secondary coordinator, like GLIC, General Legal Incubation Council, there's a section eight company as I told you, it's not for profit company. So I was a secondary coordinator at that and GNLU. So GNLU, the vice-president is a thought of business, supporting a student startup. We thought of this thing in 2014 and then we started working gradually in 2018. It was registered under the company's year 2013 as a not-for-profit company. So in that, it's India's first, you know, the incubators, we can call it, we are supporting the leader startup. Now they've divided this thing in the three-way increment, ECN and research, like, you know, it's regarding, it talks about the incubation mentorship that will incubate a mentor, the startup. ECL, again, in the student body, they do different activities, like, you know, urbanized program and planning subconference, seminar, workshop, related to legal startups and other startup things also. And the research, as a faculty, we used to do different research and different, you know, on the various topics. So that we divided this year as in three-way. Yes. So I was talking about this thing a little while ago. The praram, again, is a serial Yamachan Mangaldai, it's one of the top law firm in India. So they started in, like, 2019, the, like, legal tech incubators. So in this variety of, you know, the people, the students, especially, they approach this, under this, they apply in this initiative under the praram. So this, you can see the legality, GRTC intern, and the last one is the legal mind. So these are the, they were selected and they nurtured for one year and they are now doing a very good job. Legal mind, again, I know GRTC intern personally, that UPS student, and the legal mind, they are engineers. Now, there is a misconception that, you know, as a law student, they come up with only legal startup. It's not necessary, there are my students from GNNU and other colleges also whom I'm mentoring. So they come up with, you know, something different. They are law student and they started something different. Same thing, a legal startup started by engineers. Like one of the example, you can see the right, this is the right one, it's a legal mind. So they are all of our engineer and they started, you can check it on the website later on. So very good startup and there are other platforms. So like there's a combination, all our engineers and some of the two partners are then one is engineer, one is advocates, right? So that way they build up their platform. Now, regarding legal startup, yesterday I was talking with Rikazji, I told him, he was asking what should be the title of this webinar. Then I told him, let's put up simply legal startup and we have legal startup. Then he was telling, even my engineers are not able to understand what is legal startup. So that's why I told him, this is small initiative and the effort I have been doing for the last three years to make the people aware about, especially legal fraternity regarding what is legal startup, what new thing we can do in this legal business. So I was there, 2017, 2019, I was there in GNLU. So at that time, I thought, let me build up this platform. So whatever legal startups are there all over the world. So that I'm putting it in one platform and try to classify those things. I'm showing the website after this slide. So in that case, a different way I classified this thing and keep writing on different aspect related to startups and the legal startups. I'll show the website at the end. Yeah. So how I started, as a faculty I started, let me tell you right now, I got a lot of idea from my students. They are only first year, second year students and they give me a lot of insight regarding what they are thinking. We didn't have so much exposure when we were in college. So as a faculty, I started this thing. These are my four initiative, you can say legal field. So regarding legal aid, I've been into legal aid for last one decade. So in 2016, I launched my website, that is personal website, in that I put up in one tap a pro bono. So that's literally legal aid and when I say I put up and then thought it won't work. And then I thought of, let me have a dedicated website for the legal and legal awareness. So I started this. Actually I started pro bono in 2016 and the website was launched in January, 2017. So I started with one Gmail ID and a Facebook page and then launched as a competition or legal as a competition. And later on then we started also launch the social legal filmmaking competition also. That's a flagship event by pro bono India. And 2018, as I already had discussed, a legal startup I started. And regarding court management. So what I am like, this is again India's first initiative, the pro bono India legal startup and court management. I don't know how many of you have heard about there is a position of court managers in the Indian DVC system. So 13 finance commission, they allocated 300 crore rupees for the appointment of court managers. So around there are 450 plus court managers are there all over the India in different states. So they have given the allocated funds to different states. And there are a lot of issues. There's disparity between the profiles and salary also. So I am touched with those two court managers. I organized one conference on the backlog of cases and court management two years back. So then earlier I was only in touch with a couple of court managers. At that time I interacted with many court managers and thought, let me and then talk to them. And around 15 court managers, I put the idea, let's have this kind of platform in India. So with those support of one court managers mainly for Maharashtra and other couple of states, they gave me funding and then I put some effort to building this court management website. So this is the thing. And something new regarding, I thought of 2012, I thought of regarding a court management. I was working in IAM Ahmedabad. I worked for five years, 2010 to 15 as an associate. For the last 10 years I've been into different field, law and interdisciplinary, I would say law, management, public policy, RTI, legal startup, entrepreneurship and that way. So in 2012 I proposed a model national court management, the authority bill, I model I proposed. And the 2017 I proposed court management authority bill on that and I put it in very structured manner and it was appreciated by the Department of Justice and said to all of the high courts for their comments. And 2019, I was in one of the project on the legal education. So in that I also proposed the model legal education bill 2019 to revamp the legal education in India. That way I thought of, I've been thinking and trying to do something very something, not stereotype something out of box for the last one decade. Now, why startups succeed? Again, this is a very good video. If I get the time, I'll play, otherwise you can see it later on. I'll show the website only the startup. So he talks about the timings, right? Very good example, I love that example. I have seen this video more than 30 times. I keep showing at different webinars and seminars and workshops also. So he emphasized on, you know, speed. Like one of the example when YouTube was launched, there was no revenue model. Sometimes you'll see I don't have money. I don't have team. I don't have no, like, you know, so variety of reasons are there. You keep telling, but if you know, you have thought of just to start, people will be there to support you. That I've been feeling for last five years. People are there and they're approaching me. Different colleges, new city, they are approaching. Recently, we also launched the pro bono. We launched a certificate course in legal aid. That's the first of its kind in India. Recently, we have launched certificate course in the legal aspect of startups. Because when you are the startup, even law students and legal and law faculties also, they are, you know, having doubt, okay, whether I'm able to register this way, that way, trademark and a lot of complexity issues are there, apprehension, what will happen to my startup or initiative to solve those things. And then we thought, okay, let me plan this in this course, a legal aspect of startup. So we are covering variety of things and there are 20 plus resources are there. So that's where I thought of. So let me show that the legal startup website and then I will open for question answers. Yeah, I'll just check it out. Yeah. Yeah, because can you see the screen? Yeah, yeah. That's a website, legal startup. Yeah. Yeah. So you can see this is the small initiative I thought, like, you know, since pro bono, like major object is there, like whatever happening in legal aid, legal awareness. There are other things also you can check the website. So it's just putting it one platform doing research and other things also we have been doing in pro bono India and legal startups, whatever happening, whatever's happening in legal startup that I am putting in one place. And the other thing in code management also what's happening, whatever happening in the code management area all over the world. So that I am putting in one place. I keep also writing that my teams are also there interns and then they, so you can see here in legal startup. So this is from my understanding. I have classified those. So you can see in the sector different. So I'm planning to add couple of more also because you know, variety of startups has come up. So you can see there like online searches, information platform, legal services, technological platform, legal aid awareness, online courses and I'll be adding some more. So for example, like technological platform and I want to see in India. So let's click on India. So we'll see like, for example, like KS mine or as I already discussed, they supported by AI and the very law firms. They use this thing. Law, we can again, this platform for ODR, like CODR, you can also see here, CODR, that again, online dispute resolution platform, law, we can also online dispute platform. Like easy inherit a few months back, I got to know about this platform based at Bangalore. So like inheritance, you know, like we'll, so those kinds of things, they started this platform by a couple of partners. Legal mind, again, as I told you, started by engineers, pro-bakeel, jelican, work-life pro-lead. So these are the, whatever I have, you know, when I come across, so I start putting those things on, start adding in the websites. And for example, information, legal services like B compliance, that's again in India, all over also you can see at your convenience. Burjial laws is alumni of Symbiosis Law School Pune and she's based at New Delhi. So she, you know, this Burjial law supporting startup in a different, you know, way. Law vacant, as I told you, law met again, yes, very good. So law met, she's from, she started this law met when she participated in one of the business plan competition organized by Gujarat National Law University. And she was a winner and she started this platform, law met 2016 and three years back, she started platform law capsule. So regarding online documentation and the E contract, so that way, and doing wonderful job and she won various award at the national, international level also. And she got the very good funding. So this had been a very good team is there. So her name is Guatami and law met and then she started law capsule also, and regarding legal services, Javab, though right side you can see is a, you can see social legal startup. So that guy is based at Indore. So, you know, different litigations and regarding the platform, this startup for the social legal startup, you can call it. Regarding documentation, you can see the kagzat and the legal desk, this platform, let's start. This is again regarding ADR platform, we resolved 360, spot draft. And there are a variety of things you can, then the vehicle search, all of you must be aware of the vehicle search. The candidate again is regarding dispute resolution, resolve dispute online. Memo Pandit again, some of you must be aware about they are the alumni of NLU Odisha and for last four years they have been running this platform. So they're providing the training for the mode course, preparing memoriers and trained students for the mode course. That's where they started this funding training for last three to four years. So these are the variety of example you can see later on and then country level I had divided whatever I'm getting, so I try putting so people will come to know and then we keep writing blogs and then I keep putting different article case studies on this platform. So that's all from my side. I will happy to get the questions. Yeah, I'm just checking it out. Yeah. Since on the group we don't have. No, we don't have. So thank you Mr. Kaplash for giving us the insights on the topic, which is quite new and a lot of people will learn from it, put things forward and they will also take that if they could, if those persons could do it why can't they do it? And especially during these times it's very important to have a different thought process. As they say that successful people don't do different things, but they do it differently. So taking you from that, I'm quite sure that a lot of people will take and plunge into new things. And thank you to all those participants who have been watching us live on the Facebook, YouTube and on this platform. And thank you Mr. Kaplash for sharing your knowledge. Everyone stay safe, stay blessed. Thank you.