 Why do people love Shane Gillis so much that even other Asians are defending his past? Let's talk about it. Yeah, I mean we already covered this one time guys, but this keeps resurfacing people keep sending this to us because it keeps like Just like dragging itself on Andrew the M a nna Which is a Asian media watchdog group is demanding that Shane Gillis give a formal apology ahead of hosting SNL this weekend and The internet split of course a lot of Asians support it some are in the middle some are against it We're gonna get into the thick of it Make sure you like subscribe turning your notifications check out small ass sauce and small ass sauce calm It's sold out right now and we already talked about it. Why does this keep going on? Because I think a lot of people think that Shane Gillis is saving comedy for comedy's sake because it's like comedy fans Comedy fans of all colors even us even Asians who like comedy They're like yo Shane Gillis is one of the best comedians of recent. He pushes the boundaries He's a friendly guy. He makes fun of himself. He's a fat ugly dude Yeah, so that he's the opposite of that right who's like got sorority girls like lining even the opposite of Andrew Schultz or whatever like There's there's that whole thing. He doesn't try to be cool, right? Right, but he's legitimately funny and he's a rising star So let him do his thing and he doesn't mean in a malicious way. He made jokes He addressed them before on some platforms, so I guess a lot of Asians are just like man I don't want to be a snowflake. I don't want to be too sensitive about this. Just let Shane Gillis do his thing I can understand that honestly as a comedy fan By the way being doing comedic things on the internet is not my transcendent identity in my entire life I got a couple other identities that I value above those that one But yes from that perspective, could I see where they're coming from? however, and this is a advocacy group that is a non-profit of course the M-A-N-N-A and a I'm sorry should do their thing. Yeah Listen if you're an Asian and you're like dude get this advocacy crew key group out of here Identify as a comedy consumer you never fought for Asians in your entire life on any sort of real level in a mixed context Yeah, you have no idea what that means on any sort of real level, right? You can acknowledge that Shane Gillis is hilarious and his comedy muscles are amazing and it's great He should continue to be a millionaire Forever and ever funny. He should still acknowledge that this advocacy group Absolutely is well within its right to ask for an apology No, that's like saying to me the advocacy group is essentially like the police and then Shane Gillis is like a Known small-time drug dealer like the for example the police are always gonna check up on this drug dealer Whether or not they bust him and they're gonna bust his balls and keep tabs on them because that's what the police are supposed to do That's what the how that's how the whole dynamic works, right now Maybe I don't think Shane Gillis is a bad guy I mean ultimately I think he is a comedian. He does push the limits Apparently he has used the n-word in a jokingly way. I can't find a clip of it So if anybody has the clip of it, let me know because I just I'm just curious to see it because previously I'd been like if he uses it with the hard ER. He's not coming back from it He's no But I'm saying we said earlier people don't take things against Asians very seriously a lot of people don't sometimes even Asians don't Yeah, but ultimately guys, I mean, I think that if you're an advocacy group That represents for people in Chinatown, which the joke was specifically about Chinese people in Chinatown And it was a joke, but it was a harsh joke. I could see that being hurtful So of course this group is doing what they're supposed to do ultimately listen We're gonna get into the comment section and we're gonna talk about people disagreeing on this and that's fine You don't have to fully agree, but I would you should probably agree on this Podcasts are not the best platform to test super edgy jokes out on here's the thing podcasts Are not necessarily it's not a comedy setting necessarily I know a lot of people joke around on podcasts and Exercise things and go into characters, but I'm just letting you know that podcast kind of blur the lines between what is reality and joke When you go on stage at a comedy club those things are for sure jokes So that's why I would have preferred the harshest jokes be set on stage in front of people's faces To people's faces so that people know you're joking versus on a podcast somewhere. That's my opinion I mean listen if you use the worst racial slur for a group in The last five years you're getting in trouble right right right um anyways the truth is a lot of Asians They don't really know what it's like to fight for Asians in a sort of real way They just sort of like live their life even if their life is super Asian They just don't know what it's like to be a warrior on the battlefield in a lot of different contexts They've never been you know what I mean in a high school that mirrored like whatever prison dynamics Whatever I'm the truth is a lot of Asians and they have identities that they've bought into that They feel like transcend their Asian identity right so they're almost like more valuing their identity as like a fanboy of this thing Overbeing Asian and then they're leaving that comment from that perspective on the next shark page Right, so it's sort of like causing a lot of arguing back and forth And I really think that's the primary driver of it different people have lived different lives and seen really really Different people view Asian hate differently I think a most Asians were upset about it on some level at the peak of it But obviously some Asians were getting boots on the ground and patrolling Chinatown and had out there elder You know grandparents living in Chinatown, so they were fearing for their lives You know at one point and then there's so many Asians who are removed from it so obviously there's a lot of Asians who are removed from the pain or the Ridiculing of being Asian or the targeting of being Asian so there's a lot Everybody's on a different range Asians are not a monolith So you Asians who are getting but I almost have the worst understanding of the variance. Yeah. Yeah That's what I'm saying like listen it like if you're an Asian that's not offended by Shane Gillis That's fine. I'm not actually not disagreeing with you But also if you're an Asian who wants to fight against Shane Gillis and ask for an apology You do your thing too. Yeah, right all means I'll still watch Shane Gillis his clips because I do think he's funny But I'm also not gonna like his special was funny His special was really really funny, but literally if you go to ride for Shane Gillis over Asians and your Asians man, you got a question some of the Choices in your life to be honest. Um, somebody said you can make Asian fun of Asians because y'all are on the top You don't get to wine when you're winning it has a lot to do with like income numbers and stuff like that Here's the thing though. He was making fun of like poor Asians in Chinatown, which is more riddled by poverty Do you think people see that or is it like? You know I'm saying because there was a lot of people in the comment sections They're not from Chinatown, but they're defending his joke about people calling people in Chinatown the seaworth. Yeah So again, I mean it's kind of goes back to like What is he really making fun of you know, he's not making fun of the model minority Harvard From millionaire family Asians. He's not making fun of this other type of Asian He was making fun, you know what I mean So I guess it's hard because there is so many Asians in poverty But then there are so many the general narrative is that Asians are up, right? And then so you can't punch you you you like punching up is okay Well, it's confusing because it's like let's say you're actually trying to punch somebody's face But they have two faces one's high and one's low. So if you're punching down on the one face, it's like You're punching down technically. I don't know Let's just get into the main argument this guy said his name is yin of ace You guys act like a bunch of Asian old heads having said something racist against other cultures Am I the only one that isn't soft and doesn't care? This guy is from Omaha, Nebraska And he does seem like he's bought in a little bit into the redneck lifestyle But somebody else and then a bunch of guys more from the city and I think that are tatted up Got at him and been like man this guy's so soft He thinks he's strong and he'll let anybody just walk over us and laugh about it And it goes back and forth this other guy said I'm right there with you He was just joking this guy is also shotgunning beers and has an American flag on his truck So it looks like the Asian guys that have more adopted into the truck Budweiser culture are more going with Shane side some of the more street guys from the city going against it Well, guess what Asians have different perspectives, right? Right now I guess again, I think you'd ask Not that it fully matters, but I guess it does in this context who the people who care the most about Asians are probably going to Feel more offended and demand an apology more so than the Asians who are just like man I'm just Asian, but I'm just trying to live Right It's almost like the people who are just trying to live and then give Shane Gillis a complete hundred out of a hundred past I can see what they're trying to do Andrew. They want to live the best life for themselves Yeah, but these guys are also not fighting for Asians in a macro sense I guess in a weird way just shows the the split and the diversity amongst Asians David that we have these different that Asian guys Asian males primarily are arguing about this Because that's who they they would even care about Shane Gillis because they watch his comedy like Asian girls Do not watch Shane Gillis, but Asian guys of different ends are arguing about how offended they should be about Shane Gillis That's interesting. That's just interesting like A lot of times I don't ever like you said surprise people have different perspective due to different life goals different Geographic location different upbringings and just different like images that they see themselves with when they look in the mirror Someone said, you know, you have freedom of speech in this country, but you're not free of consequence He's just is facing the consequences of what happened. So it makes it No, that's a very matter-of-fact way of putting it right like he has the all the freedom to make all those jokes You know, everybody thinks Asians are free game There's some evidence to support that Asians were free game. He pushed it too far He got but so I was watching that video where he goes off the racist jokes There's still one clip on YouTube that shows it and I was going on the comment section of the video and it said Bro after watching several videos about him getting fired I finally found this clip and I'm so pissed at how tame it is Yes, and then someone goes especially since they together have said way worse stuff And so there's a lot of comments talking about how this clip from this podcast this old podcast Was not even the worst clip But it's the clip that's saved so I'm like I'm kind of curious to see the other stuff Oh, you're saying that apparently he there was way worse stuff that got apparently he has said the n-word in a joking way But there's no clip of it. I'm like, whoa, how much harder did they go on this podcast, right? Andrew there was a bunch of white guys popping up in the next shark comments section saying comedy dies with woke Long live Shane mother effing Gillis. These were white guys that do not look that cool I do think that that's a lot of his fans. Yeah, and I do think they're like some of them are possibly even autistic themselves I'm serious. Yeah. Well, why do you think that? Shane just got such a rabid fan base. I Think he represents like I said the not the Matt Rife's who it just like the hot frat guy, right? He's not the Andrew Schultz, which is like the super cool guy. He's literally Like the shlubby dude at the town local bar, but way more accomplished way quick more prolific way more You know, I mean just a hyper elevated version up here. Listen guys Shane Gillis fans, I'll give you one I'll give you one that I can relate to you guys at Jeremy Lynn's peak during Linsanity You couldn't tell me nothing about Jay Lin There was a time I was riding with Jay Lin so hard even when I knew that he kind of like couldn't go left That good with his left hand I would you couldn't tell me nothing well because he meant so much Yeah, cuz I was just like man I just had never seen it and meant so much to me. So you're saying Shane Gillis is the white Jeremy Lin of comedy For these like white outcasts or whatever Yeah, but this like sort of like I'm not the Schultz Matt Rife perspective. Yes. I think so Um, of course, some people are saying if you don't like him. Just don't watch his specials It goes back and forth. This guy's funny. Nah, he's good. Can other Asians say nah He's good on behalf of all Asians. I hate I hate this. I don't care what ratio. I hate it when Latinos do this I don't when any group does this Asians do it. How can one person be like nah, he's good in our book It doesn't make any sense. Who is our book? Well, who you can't speak for all Asians, I guess, right People were talking about Mark Wahlberg literally hospitalized the Asian guy now. He's a spokesperson for Jesus Oh, how come he did something way worse and people gave him the past. Here's the thing This is what I'm trying to tell people you can have opposing ideas in your mind I always was a fan of the way Mark Wahlberg ran his Hollywood career. He kind of treated it like rap music He brought his boys up sort of like LeBron in the sports world. I thought that was tight I really enjoyed entourage. I can say that by saying that young Mark Wahlberg was probably a racist a-hole I can hold those ideas simultaneously in my head. Yeah, and maybe he's changed I mean, maybe he is a completely different person than he was when he was like 17, you know, I mean that is fair To say but also it's also fair be like, yo, when you were 17, bro He was a problem. Yeah Why why does it seem like it's so impossible for people to understand that Shane Gillis can be hilarious Incredibly talented as a pure comedian and been completely wrong for saying that stuff about Asians at the same time. Yeah I think why is that those are compatible you can't hold it No, but I don't understand why it's not that different than people who commit crimes when they're younger or in their earlier years And then apologize and be like, you know what, you know, and they don't do it again Right, right. Yeah, it's just like that like he just like just because He's a comedian doesn't mean you can't commit Violations It was still a violation like I said, and I think he should have lost his job at snl at that time But since then that is fine that he has risen back up Got a fan base and now snl needs him I think that's totally fine to acknowledge and that that is the arc of things and you know, ultimately It's not wrong, right? Ultimately, here's my takeaway Andrew. There's a lot of people in the comments section Who have like never really fought for Asians, right? If you never really fought for Asians like at your school me and you we grew up in a very contentious Environment from elementary to middle school to high school. Sometimes it was more playful. Sometimes it got really crazy with the You know what I mean? I mean, we've even heard just racist things said in public and Defended Asians on their behalf, you know, not saying I fought 10 guys, but I'm just saying We've been in verbal spats Defending Asians in public, right? By the way, I'm not saying Asians are in the right 100 out of 100 times We can be wrong too this particular time I'm not going to tell the advocacy group to back off when they're doing their job defending Asians Yeah, yeah, what I personally think that this is like if they had limited political willpower And only one or two bullets to spend it on what I spend it on this one or two I'd have to take a look at what what what were the other options in the field But you know what I mean? It's in the it's in the middle zone, you know, it's right there It's a way to get their name out too. Yeah, you know, I'm saying I'm never going to go Against Asians defending Asians whether I fully agree with it to the same extent that they do or not You know what it is a lot of Asian some of the Asians who are going against other Asians for being offended they Feel like It makes Asians look weak and they want that validation too. So there's two reasons one They don't want to be a snowflake which I didn't understand that right? You don't want to be seen as overly sensitive But then there's this other side that I don't understand where the Asians are like Dude like They almost are defending Shane Gillis because in a weird way they like want his validation Right and they relate to his archetype, right? Yeah, and they think it's whack or uncool in America to stand up for Asians Right because they must have some perception Maybe possibly driven by their own experiences in their life that Asians don't struggle or that Asians are not going through anything Yeah, and they want that validation from Other people and they feel like that if they voice their opinion And they defend Asians then They lose validation in their American way. They'll get kicked out of the the dogs. They can't be part of the dogs anymore Yeah Yeah, listen guys man every Asian has a different perspective But some perspectives are more valid than others because you've seen more reps you've been through more things Other people who just you lived a quiet life of consumption somewhere in the middle of nowhere never really stood up for anything You can have your opinion by all means but I counted less Or maybe In their defense, I don't know any guys out there. Maybe they've physically fought people In defending Asians, but then when it comes to comedy, they're like, I don't care man People can say whatever they want. That could be a valid perspective. Hey, man. We tell Asians across the board I'm not just gonna be like a media guy. I'm telling Asians to defend themselves in IRL In their house, too So as long as you got a reason On why you feel that way you let us know in the comments down below Are you defending Shangela's? Are you defending comedy or are you defending this watchdog group? And that Shangela should apologize Either way you feel is valid. But why don't you let us know in the comments down below why have a good rationale Have a good rationale. Let us know what you think in the comment section below until next time. We're the hot boys. We out. Peace