 Welcome to ToffyTV it's the final word for Everton versus Carey Baggy Sharks over in Kenya the first preseason game, cos I just don't think this was a free… … I still don't know a preseason game it's just like an exhibition game of football, I just don't… … I mean some of our players didn't even come back to a preseason until like today cos they were just like no, no, no, no, no… Be gweithdo ddwych i grwm eich cael hynny i'r bwysig i gydlachol, i ddwyd i ffynol i'n bwysig i'r bwysig. Ond eu gallwn i'n ddwylliant â gennym, ym mhawr 1-1. Ac mae eich rhan o'n ddysgu i'r ffynol i'r bwysig i'r ffynol i'r bwysig i'r bwysig i'r bwysig i'r bwysig. Go tenot, I want it, go crowd You know obviously 10 and half are like 2, 3 tri felly sonddod He didn't grwy but we were obligated to do it me when I did it You know, we've learnt different things over the last couple of days like hearing a, but, play it Am wys, that's bost a clef when the singer evident with all the drums and getting gybs and bowler You're mogwn ffaenio i'r ddanch. You can't miss that Dyna'r serch. Mae'r busgr fawr yn fawr. Felly mae'n ddechrau. Mae'n ddefnyddio gynnig. Mae'n ddweud i gweithio'r sgwrt ysgol. Mae'n ddechrau fawr i gwaith. Mae'n sgwrt iawn i gdaelwch. Dyna bod yma'r gwasb iawn. Fydden o'i ddweud yma yn fawr. Ges y bydd yn ddelch gael. Mae'n ddweud yn ei gydig fel o'r berthynas. Mae pob dechrau. Mae'n gwybwyl mae'n gweithio'r gwahodd. Angi nhw'n ddolech chi'n gawm eisiau na'ch gawch 45 minnys diddyn ni'n srong. A'n yma? Rwy'n gwrs gwrs y si'n yma bach wedi'ch bod efo'i'ch poron e. Was it doff? Was it really good to see him back? No, he was, he didn't do it. No, he benders. But there you go now, if it's a one-man draw. It's hard to talk about it, isn't it? The whole trip I suppose was, again, like you just mentioned it. There's a PR exercise, it was on behalf of the sponsors. Everything can go over there. Community-wise it's great. They're taking all the kits over, seeing a few Twitter pictures from Everton fans who've gone over it, gone over into the different places. Helping out, having fun, brilliant from that point of view. People get to see a different way of life. You sit behind me. From all that point of view, brilliant seeing Everton players, men and women. That's good. Hopefully that's what the club was. That was a really good thing. I thought that was really good. Especially with the women's World Cup just finishing and being such a success. We've said this many a time, if you're going to go over somewhere, take the first team, take the under-23s and take the ladies team and get them all out there. Because different people have... Not the other sponsors. Exactly. I thought that was good when they went out in the community. The game, like you just said, I just loved the fact that it was £60,000 and yet the attendance was £64,000 or something. Can you imagine that? They stood in the aisles and everything. All that was really, really positive. You're seeing the new kit in the sunshine with the sweat off. Andre Govermes' brow just dripping down. That all looked good. Again, from that point of view, no problems. Whatever happened on the pitch happened. I couldn't care less. It was just a run around for a few players. The second half, we got nearly all of the 23 teams except for the goalkeeper. They looked like an under-23 side. We've been playing together for the last two or three years. We was in the first half. It just looked like a load of people thrown in our pitch together. It would obviously have been an all of these. It was disjointed. We should have scored early on. It should have scored great ball in. It should have put it away. He's got a good connection on it as well. I thought it didn't just went wide. I suppose the disappointing thing about it was the injury. That's it, isn't it? That's the only thing, isn't it? I've seen him go in for the tackle. Straight away, the pitch you could see wasn't great. There was a pass back to Lluver Skipson. It just completely skipped away from him. The ball never slowed down. Straight away, you could see the pitch wasn't great. He went in for a tackle. He turned his ankle. He went down and got treatment. Then went down again. Obviously he went off. That was disappointing. First straight, isn't it? Regardless of what happens with him, he wanted to be kept fit and impressed when he was in the manager. He would have liked to have seen him. Have a half and see what he could do. I just get the feeling at luck. It's just not going to happen for him. Everything seems to transpire against him. I don't know whether it's a classic law of attraction. He doesn't really want to be here anyway. I don't know. But it just feels like that. He was one of them. He was one of the players I wanted to watch. You know what I mean? He was going off in the first 10, 12 minutes, whatever it was. It was a little bit frustrating. I thought, you know, Gomes moved the ball around all right but looks short of fitness obviously on that pitch. I don't know. If it was on that pitch, he would have been impressed if he had good energy about it. But it was just very disjuncted. It really was. I personally don't want to tell what anybody playing football because I just don't think the game warrants it. I just thought it was just an exercise. You've got it. I know, but I'm here to say that. I honestly took absolutely zero from that game in terms of... and I've seen the reactions of some people and it's just now. I know that's what I'm saying. That's why I want to get that point across is that the first half I just don't take anything from a footballing point of view. It was a game played 7,200 miles away. I think it was over. I mean, I was amazed it was ten and a half all flight. I didn't realise it was that long. Played after three days training. Sorry. Yeah, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. The only time he'd been on the grass properly. Playing against a team and we were fitter. You were off free as well. Huge opportunity for them. In front of a huge crowd. They looked, they just looked. Certainly in the first half, the second half they didn't, the first half they looked better because they were just sharper. Day number 7 was great. We got caught a few times trying to step out and they made some great runs and you'd have to give them their opportunity in that first half. You've got to talk about the goal, the goal's classic precision in it. Hole gate. Trying to step out when there's a striking next to you. Clearly going the other way from you. There's dodgy to say the least. You know what? Instead of doing this, you should have just kind of done a stop. Because he almost got back anyway. But he did, he kind of did get back to cover. But the goal he made. Oh yeah, the old hologram and goal. What Stechlenberg was doing, I just don't understand. Why he went into that area and didn't get back and cover his knee. Look at his face. When he went under his leg. Whoa, that's not happening. It happened to me because there was nobody in the goal. You were pressing. There's one not long after that. Do you think he just got involved in the pressing game? You've got to press, you've got to press. No, there's one not long after that wasn't as well where they put it onto the right and he went past them and put it wide. It was about three yards offside. That went for them as well. That never went. That's why I can't. I'm sitting here and I can't. I can't. People though, I've seen some people taking it to heart and you're like, you can't. It's not even a game. What made me laugh is last season when we beat Erding 22-0 people were ripping it going to joke this. It's blah, blah, blah. So why was that a joke when we played a team after a week's training with our first team? That was a joke. But when we've had three days and gone to doing an obligation with half of our team missing at least isn't it a joke? But what I took out of it was people like Lewis Gibson had not really watched them in that environment before obviously. I thought he looked very assured. Looks like a young John Bishop. He does. I thought he looked quite good. Again, I find it difficult to seriously, I find it difficult to say who looked good and who didn't look good. But when you watch a game of football you can tell who looks ahead of other players and I would say he looked comparatively he looked ahead of other players. He looked fine in possession and he didn't do anything stupid and there were times where Holgate was trying to be a little bit too look at me I'm a Premier League footballer instead of just like you saying just do the job, what you need to do on a pitch like that in the environment like that. The second we're in 1-0 barn, poor goal come out second half rung the changes let's be honest, we only had Gomez playing who's a first teamer. You've had the Mola Luchman and you've had Snadlann and you've had Tom Davies they're not first team regular only Gomez is a first team regular so they all go off anyway replaced by Holgate stays on he's the only one that stayed on and we play but I'm saying anyone who's a first team it's all 23 and once all the 23s come on you look like a team they all knew each other's runs there's a bit more energy about them as well like I've got to impress you it probably cooled down maybe a little bit as well and they probably tired a little bit as well so we looked a lot better second half they really were in a threat at all who? no, that's fine, second half we can talk more about the second half I don't mind, first half not interesting but second half you can see a little bit more who caught your eye great free kick but when he stepped up he just had that look he knew what he was he had that look about him he was a penalty anyway it was weird wasn't it I think the initial contact was on the line but he caught him again he looks composed he looks like he's got something about him do you know what? I like Fraser Hornby I don't honestly think he'll ever be an evidence centre forward but there's just something I like about him he just reminds me of an old fashioned number nine but a modern version he doesn't mind running the channels but he'll go in and get himself hate he can play a front on his own he'll... he's got the physique to be a primary player and he's still only young he's had an injury so he's probably six months behind where he's jumping I thought his link play was quite good little bits and pieces he has to sharpen up but again it's three or four days into training as well for him I like the look of Josh Barlow I think sometimes he runs he needs to simplify I think he was just trying to impress too much which is fine I thought I thought Ben Ingemi and Eddyn Ehren I thought Eddyn Ehren looked quite good he was always on the front foot trying to play a little bit and I thought bro that done alright he's always making needs to be a little bit better it's always decision making with them isn't it dawg? with kids that young it's always decision making but you're right he looked a lot the second half he looked like he just looked like lad to play together so he knew where he should have been making the bones and it was positive wasn't it but I did look and think if you demand that you do look and have a squad that's trying to get into your how many of these would you include Joe Williams is one who would think the man that you might think I want another little look at him because let's see what he's like in with Sigarton and in with Go you know what I mean playing with better players Canny Do you think Amory of them looked physically capable of being in the first team cos I thought as soon as I seen Hullgate I thought he beefed out a little bit Looks like he's put a bit of beef on Looks like he's been on the wait and stuff Well I thought Gibson looked like he physically he's not the tallest No but I think he's looked athletic and I think he'll probably go up and down anyway so you take him on I won't be cuck out with him I think but I don't know whether he's ready but I think physically he looked Eddyn Aaron He's an unit mate I don't think he did well as well he covered the pitch I don't know if I'm going to do that but Benny covered the pitch quite well Like you said Josh Barlow looks interested but I think he needs to go and play in the first team and get his decision making a little bit better probably the same with Broderd so really if you're looking at it from that perspective at the site, you know Williams physically he's a big lad can get it on a pitch I think he would be one of you and he's been he's had two loans hasn't he and you think We're going to know more once I think Well what did you make of this there's a couple of stories from on Saturday I haven't had a couple of bits for Joe Williams he's got a year left on the field Can we sell him and have a bar back close it's not something we can start doing I mean man sit you do it because he looks like he looks to me like he could develop he's got something about it I know what you mean he's got composure and a little bit of devil he looks like a footballer he doesn't panic he looks at something like homeby he doesn't do something a baller as well it's like that excitement where is he he's like I've played for a couple of years I've done it at a level I'm a little bit I think this season for him will either have to be in the squad or go somewhere and again I've got to be clever stop letting people go down to the end of the contracts these are people that you've invested your money in your wife and nothing at the end of the contracts I mean brands will be all over that let's be honest but you can't be allowed to go on any longer I think it will change and I think just find their interest in them with Joe Williams because last summer Marko Silver identified him as someone he wanted in the first team squad for the pre-season which I thought was a bit so he's obviously watched that kind of thing and then we know that in January the couple of bids came and never rejected them because Silver's so I think maybe Marko Silver is thinking along the time lines looking and going he's one who potentially could step in so we want to keep him it'll be interesting what they do for him here because obviously a Tyru didn't impress me a Robinson nor at all and he hasn't impressed me in the past I just thought every time you put one great ball in to be fair for Broadhead's but I just thought he was really negative when I'd seen him he was really positive he seemed to just want to pass the ball back and that wasn't what his game was about that might be I think that when you look at that team he's one of the players that was on loan last season so may not necessarily fit him with the rest of the team but he's a player he's been on loans, he's had two loans now hasn't he and he's had he's had Bolton as well hasn't he? that's what I'm saying he's had two years where he hasn't been with them and if that was the only thing we take from the game is that they all look like they're a unit I don't know it's going to be more about the training isn't it they're going to get back and they're going to have a few let's be honest, half of them at least won't be with the first scene this year no no but the other 23s are in Llamangaradi so I don't know how many whether some of them are going to go straight over there I suspect them to again how many now what's the break this is the way the decisions have to be made about all those players who went over there their futures have to be sorted out are they going to go back to the 23s and have another year in the 23s for a couple of them maybe but some of them come on we've got to start making these decisions quicker I think Feeney and Gibson and Bowler definitely will go out on loan I think they'll definitely go on loan this season I don't know what to do with Fraser I don't know whether he goes on loan because what do you put him back in up and surely he's 20 now so he needs a loan he's a big unit he looks like he could do it he's going to play in the championship no problem I think I'm not saying but I feel like he's physically got that capability to go and play in the championship and then I think what should happen then is that the sims should then be the 23s strike at 18 there's another lad who's signed a contract that I care in Phillips and there's also Masamba he is in sorry I've a butchered that name Masampale but there's the other add annoying as well who's signed a contract apparently there's six clubs after that's what I'm saying we're getting this players and we're not they're not kicking on because we're in the past I'm not saying now in the past we've completely chosen the wrong I tell you what's interesting George Hairst has gone to Leicester which we said a year ago we would do so Leicester have got a club in Belgium that they own they've found George Hairst had a Sheffield Wednesday for nothing to get round to get round Bosman ironically Bosman in Belgium and now he's gone to Leicester I'm just saying maybe that's something we need to start thinking about is that if you're going to have somewhere for these players to go that's what Chelsea have been doing for free we said it before it's almost a perfect bridge you're taking them out of 23s football which is let's be honest 18s is non-contract 23s is a better version of it but it's still not anywhere near the level if you had a midway team like you say someone in Belgium or whatever where it's a step up again in front of the crowd that will have benefited those Leicester playing in front of 65,000 with a good atmosphere it will have benefited them if you can take someone out and put them in these clubs and go if we had a club you could have them as a team or four of them playing in a team did really benefit them some people might be watching thinking well what's the point it's money going down the drain but it isn't because money going down the drain is paying £1m for Basasambu paying money for David Hennan and all these other players that we've brought in for good money and them just leaving the club for nothing that's money going down the drain he's gone for a year or something that's money going down the drain you have to pay those players why they're here a lot of them will be getting looked after in digs which you have to pay for that's money going down the drain if you've got a club somewhere else if you can do it or a partnership or whatever and these lads can go there a couple of them will either stay there because the club will go we actually like them and we'll keep them here you might make money on a few and it pays for itself and the odd one it comes back and it's good enough to go put it this way we had a full 11 yesterday in that second half we were all 23 because Mark LL will come on maybe not the goalkeeper but Mark LL will come on Virginia will be going on alone he looks like a genuine someone who's genuinely at the club that's 11 players you've got to start thinking about what you're going to do that's what I'm saying about that bottom you look at all these young players you sign in contracts and I know there's a we can't bring in anyone under 18 at the moment from the UK is it 18 or 16 16 is it from the UK we can't but there's now a bottleneck and there's a lot of plays between 18 and 22-23 now even from like parenting who's been linked with a move to takey don't think he's skinned he's got a 50 it's expensive we're getting a bottleneck now we've got to start doing something with it that's what I meant when I was saying to you about that second half when you looked at that team you've got to start thinking now where a squad that are trying to let's be honest we're trying to get in the champions league whether people laugh or not that's what the aim is so if you look at that team yesterday of 23s in that second half how many of them looked good enough to you to go into that team and you look and go there's a few potential but other lads do you look and go that decent footballers some of them are 20 like Anthony Robinson I've seen him and thought he's a good player in the past but I looked at him yesterday and just thought look at Luke again that's the level Bains wasn't great but he got forward and he was comfortable in possession some of those lads really went for it in that second half that's the point of going on loan you have footballers with talent and then when they go on loan they find composure I think a bit of composure and that's what I think with Joe Williams what you've seen you've seen a player there who's like I'm ready for the next thing what it is the under 23s is a place to put your young players it's nothing else it is absolutely nothing else hold them by all it's somewhere where players play and that's it isn't it they don't seem to like no one in the under 23s seems to like that level doesn't seem to kick anyone on no one says we'll put them in the under 23s everyone's putting them out on loan and it's where you're putting them on loan and it doesn't seem to be it doesn't seem to be waiting for us now he's getting the moves to Huddersfield it's like what's going on it's not I think everyone has to come up with a solution that benefits everybody because the way it is at the moment it's not Joe Williams wants to go on playing Germany for two years fair dues but in two years time we can bring them back if we want them start looking like that City sold a player to a PSV and then brought them back played for a year done well and they were like you're ready maybe that's what we've got to start doing because I think the way it is we've just got there's going to be a lot of those players that are just going to go but we can see I reckon they've got a couple more games some of them have got a couple more games to impress or they've got a couple more weeks to impress in training the ones you rarely... you might start cutting them down we go to Switzerland on Friday I think so they train Saturday and they play see on on Sunday and then obviously there's the weeks training they've got them on the call on the Friday all of them won't be going to Switzerland straight off the bat because some of them might though some may but you might take but don't forget that you've got Bernard Dean, Keen, Sigarton, Pickford all of them are back this week but doesn't he have an obligation to take some of them now because some of them well Joe Williams will go Joe Williams will go I imagine Gibson and Feeney may go because well just we haven't got the centre back so they'll go and be with Michael Keane I don't know where the ball will go Ben Inge will probably go because he's being part of my first team I think we've got an obligation to he's got an obligation to look maybe he'll take a few and then want to come back from Switzerland he'll know maybe that's the problem for some of those players last summer he was trying to make his mind up on a lot of first team players he's already made his mind up now he knows who he wants out he knows he doesn't want half of them back maybe this summer it's like well now I need to make my mind up on some of these 23s so we can actually go you know what we can get you a move and you're gone and then I can start concentrating on the next ones and maybe that's something he'll take from this tip and I support East I mean he was quite he was quite buoyant in terms of caring people in he was another four didn't he so he can get a couple of those in this week he'll want because I imagine he'll want them in Switzerland with them I know we go to Germany twice but they're just two days in Germany with them playing the tournament on the one day this is the real bonding week isn't it so I imagine I don't know try this week to maybe push a couple of those deals through he can obviously get a few out, get a few in so we'll have to see it was decent in the second half to see those lads having a good run out it's not a real game because there's been no fitness sorry no real training around it and there wasn't a first team so you can't really take too much from it but we didn't lose we lost the penalty thing that happened afterwards listen some of the celebration the leg one with the hamstring and brilliant for them fantastic for them wasn't it I think they got done well they played well they did great for them they'll get more sponsorship I think they got a kit deal out of it with Dumbra as well I think they got a new home and away kit so fair play to them for that club watch a little video on them of how they help kids and how they have this thing together so absolutely amazing shine the light on them shine the light on them for a little small time it'll get money and hopefully 65,000 people watching fantastic good for them let us know your thoughts on the game and on the trip overall and the 23s is that anyone who 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