 Everybody happy Friday morning, even though we're recording this on a Thursday. This will be up for you guys on a Friday morning I have the beautiful Cindy back who is one of my in real life friends I I feel like I'm old because a lot of the slang the kids say I don't know and I learned that IRL means in real life So Cindy is one of my IRL people that I know her in real life didn't meet her on the internet like a lot My other YouTube friends we actually have known each other for many many many years And I'm so excited that Cindy's finally coming out and like teach showing the world what she's been doing for years in her own Little school, but now she's putting herself out there more publicly because in my opinion Cindy is definitely a light worker She's definitely a healer. She's here to help people We all have a Dharma and a purpose in this life And I really feel like Cindy is one of those people that it's like ding ding ding This is her path because she is so powerful and she has helped so many people. Oh, we just lost your face Cindy Okay, hold on the weather in Georgia right now. It's very thunderstormy. So we've had a little bit unstable internet So you guys will have to forgive us if things happen man versus nature nature always wins, right? Oh, we lost I hope it doesn't keep doing this. Okay Well, your picture is beautiful to just you are so Okay So and I want to bring up to Cindy and I were kind of talking off camera about what we were going to talk about today And I know that like 99% of you guys are gonna just dig this conversation but I know that that what we talk about especially with like stuff that kind of challenges the Accepted narrative on spirituality can be very triggering for people and the one thing that I would just Ask that those people who do feel triggered that instead of lashing out an anger at people when they may be present an idea that Bumps up against what you've been taught is to just examine that trigger within yourself You know, it's not as Cindy I talked about in other episodes as far as like triggers That's just something for you to observe within yourself. It's not nobody is responsible for your feelings about things That's feelings and opinions should be things that are always evolving and changing when new information is brought forward And I know that I shouldn't have to say that because most the people watching are gonna totally dig this conversation because this is kind of a Growing on a topic that we've been talking about a lot on this channel and with the Jesus strand the project that I've been working on with negative 48 Sabrina Gow in Toronto where we've been following kind of the bloodline the literal Bloodline of Jesus, but we know that Jesus and his spouse his partner Mary Magdalene Who I've kind of called his shop fee from time to time which we could talk about what that is to Cindy About her divine teaching and if you joined us on the dark outpost Tuesday We had Janine on our lovely terror card reader Janine and she looked into the cards and basically a lot of what was Removed and edited out of the Bible that we have today Was having to do with the divine feminine and the power of the divine feminine that yin and yang that balance of Feminine and masculine energy and we see that a lot as male female bodies But divine feminine can also live within a man and the dying divine masculine can also live within a female as well So when Cindy's talks about Mary Magdalene and this idea of what she's teaching. It's not just we're not just It's not a women's group We're talking about this energy that she brought in her teaching because she was a teacher to all both men and women So at everything in between under the rainbow. So um, so Cindy, how are you today? I'm great. Thank you. And I'm super excited to be talking about all this magical mystical things because Mary Magdalene, she believed in that kind of stuff. She believed it in and You know, there's different ideas to about her lineage and where she came from as well And there are things that say that she was a high priestess that she was a high priestess of the Isis and Hathor lineage Yeah, and her name is Miriam. You know Miriam and Magdalene means I Wrote about this the other day, but it means like strength that her last name and strength and Tower the tower of strength and power. That's what like Miggila or Magdalene the way it translates over is as a lineage or as a person of Tower and like power and strength, right? You know her teachings. Yes. Can you talk a bit about because I know some people are going to be confused about the Isis thing And I know JC down in Australia has spoken about this before a lot of these Isis Hathor like they've been smeared for a particular reason And so I just wanted to make people aware of that like we are Unravelling so much about the truth behind these we'll just call them characters or entities for now because we're still trying to figure out What exactly this lineage is and if you guys remember from the Jesus strand as well They have pushed or put out the theory that and we had a military insider back this on David's channel that Jesus himself Was a Druze a DRU ZE which is more of a has very much a lot of found it finding in Hindu faith So we're looking at we're starting to discover that there's way more complexity and simplicity It's both complex and simple at the same time That we were not taught or made privy to and a lot of it does have to do with these elements of what we might call magic And working with it and being a part of it Which is a huge part of the yoga practice as well with the nature So can you can you explain that sometimes people are gonna hear magic and they're gonna immediately think like Dark arts, you know bad stuff. Can you explain what you were talking about? We were talking about before we started filming about this tool of magic Yeah, I mean basically for me anyways is you use magic as a way to To formulate relationships with not just the scene world, but also the unseen world So when you in other words, how do you connect with Mary? Magdalene if you want to connect for instance with her teaching or the teachings of anything else that she's an ascended master you connect by Creating some kind of sacred space around it with ritual in the ceremony and this magic It's not yes, you know, sometimes we think of the idea of magic and we think of the dark arts But it's a very neutral. It's it's like energy. It's just energy energy is neutral and you can either take magic in the ceremonial ritual rights and Use them to connect with the higher beings of the lights with the fifth dimension and higher beings of light Or you can use ceremony and ritual to connect with the lower beings of light So it's a neutral force, but it depends on how you're going to use it and what Relationships that you're going to be establishing and that these relationships The way I use them anyways is in a life-affirming way You know ways that affirm my life and the way that affirms my teaching so that people can also understand that it's not When you connect with these with these other beings or these other Entities that they're not trying to take the power away from you when you connect with the higher beings of light They're not going to do that but they will assist you in connecting with your own sacred power and your own wisdom and You know, that's another difference. I think between the higher magic Versus the lower magic is when you connect with the higher beings of light with the ascended math Masters, they're going to take you. I mean, yes, they're helping you. You're communing with them But they're not ever going to take the power away from you. They're only going to enhance your own Yes, that makes sense and usually when you work with the lower beings of light You know, they're they're used they're manipulating you they're using you for their own You know, whatever their own agenda is where the higher beings don't necessarily have an agenda They're just wanting to help you spread, you know, your your word and your light and and Empower you and to help you see yourself as like a sovereign being So, you know, I think those are the differences between how you use the tools and the ceremony and the rituals of magic Yeah, that's how um, it's like if for those watching who you know sitting I lived in the deep South so we understand like, you know, God the devil light dark You know, all these different words people use to identify these these beings and we know that from our studies into like the CAB AL I have to be careful what they say that that the dark entities will give you power But at a cost that you always have to give the devil his dues Whereas God or light beings angels, they are they're there to service you and to help you and love you You know, it's it's like service to others versus service to self Which is what the law of one talks about which is the same thing and so yeah And it's like I was telling Cindy we said this what you need to one of my teacher over in India You know, when we look at like tools, you know that we use tarot cards, whatever it may be It's the tool itself is just a tool. It's a right. It's neutral. It's totally neutral It's the intention behind it's the conduit behind it and it's like the knife, you know a knife can be used to hurt someone or It can be used to cut up fruit to serve someone to feed someone the knife is still the knife Right the action behind it that it's giving it its purpose and that's one thing. I think that is part of this Transition into this new timeline as we start understanding how powerful we actually are exactly determine that we determine the outcome of That tool the tool doesn't do anything It's just a tool. It's us that is giving that life to that that tool So exactly and that there is like ceremony and ritual and you do work with the idea of reciprocity In other words giving and receiving but you play with that in a way. It's like natural law, you know that we're always Playing within that natural law of when you give you receive and so when we play with that idea in These forms of magic the offerings are They're not like second, you know, you offer a rose. Yeah for honey. You offer You offer tobacco. Yeah, you offer milk, you know, you offer things like this as a way of just Of Claiming that this the ceremony of this relationship that you're you're establishing is important to you So it's like, okay I know that you're you're giving me wisdom and so here I offer you this, you know this rose or offer you this wine and You know as a way of saying thank you as a way of gratitude for the exchange of that wisdom Which is like indigenous cultures. I mean all indigenous cultures practice this form of reciprocity when they're connecting with the elements Especially or any other beings any other beings of light Difference in the ceremony He leaves so Cindy knows my boyfriend. I think some people think I've made him up because he's never on the channel, but you know My boyfriend And a picture of his guru from India and our incident Benda Arshala She knows it's right up front and Todd my boyfriend's guru loved coffee and so Warnings taught a little cup of of coffee and put it on top of the picture because his guru is no longer with us And so he'll leave it's almost like he learned that Offering from his time in India because as Cindy will tell you my boyfriend is a white red-headed man He's not he's not from the East. He's very much from the West But he learned that and so he still honors his teacher and will put a little tiny just a tiny little like almost like a shot glass Of coffee up on top of his painting or his picture sometimes just as a way for him to honor his That's wisdom and teachings that Guruji gave him. So so yeah, I get that. It's very sweet It's very touching when exactly do that. Yeah And yeah knows the stuff you're giving them it might not be important to the spirit world But it's because you're giving it to them. Yeah, it's coming from the heart from your heart is a form of gratitude For the information and the wisdom that you're receiving. Yeah I know the audio might sound a little crackly right now and I apologize. We are it tells a stormy outside So just bear with it guys man versus nature nature always wins So I feel like it's kind of off topic But I know my boyfriend has been following for a long time the and I can't say this word on on YouTube But the the trails of things have happened in the sky for a long time that they've been putting on the earth and now We know that's been reversed and so the earth is like healing itself. And so we're getting these like pop up Weather situations, which is literally just the earth cleansing itself, which is amazing So we're happy that the earth is able to as a living breathing being itself can like heal itself to just like we heal ourselves So just bear with us guys with the audio. It is a little stormy outside But anyway, all right back to Mary Magdalene. So I was telling Cindy I was born in 1983. So I was 16 and what year would that be? like 1999 so I have this memory of Walking to class in high school with my backpack on my back and at this point. I was living a normal High school experience. There was no internet yet. It was all you know, I went to Sunday school So only thing I knew about Mary Magdalene was what the church had told me was that she was a sex worker Which we know that wasn't that wasn't really true And that you know, she Jesus had hilder But all of a sudden I was walking and I the name Mary Magdalene just like very profoundly Hit my head and I just remember it like it was yesterday and you said that that happens, right? That she will actually kind of like tap you on the shoulder sometimes Yeah, when the some these ascended masters they come to you, especially some of the divine sacred feminine masters they come that's exactly what they do is they'll give you a Little tap on the shoulder like a little awakening a little imprint in your brain in your mind And it's like a seed it's like they're painting a seed with that and then as you continue on and Especially if you've been like praying or putting it out there in some way shape or form Whether it's conscious or whether it was part of your soul contract that you're here to Expand to wake and to ascend, you know these seeds that get planted they start to Perky they start to grow they start to percolate and suddenly, you know, you'll start seeing Mary Magdalene stuff everywhere You know suddenly you'll see a book or She'll start bringing in her teachings and these different ways that make sense to you at the time Yeah, and it's almost like your initiation into her world and into her realm Yeah, when I first got into it it was I Used to go to a unity church, which is like a new thought church and that they Teach more of like new thought more open-minded principles of it or it's more open-minded principles of Christianity And they do talk about Jesus a lot, but not just within the realm of the way it's taught in the Bible you know they interpret it in different kind of ways and and The in the it's I you know, I think it started off with me healing my Me healing my relationship with the idea of Christianity and Jesus Jesus himself and what his his true teachings are Yeah, and as that began to Strengthen them boom, you know Mary Magdalene came in pretty much right after that Yeah, and they weren't here showing herself as being an equal Not like at this, you know this lower being than Jesus even though she often referred to him as the Savior She was in ministry right alongside with with Jesus himself Yeah, that she had in it since she had a lynch she was born into a lineage and was taught information that also Helps people with their awakening or their ascension and you know She was doing it way back then and that was during a time. Yeah when women were subjugated so when Constance no pool came in and take took over in the the third to four hundreds I mean women were still being highly subjugated And so they had to do something about that, you know Yeah, they had to hide the fact that she was actually there alongside in the ministry with With Jesus himself, and yes, they were like the Shiva Shakti like you were talking about Explain what I tell people all the time. Oh, she was a Shakti. Will you explain what a Shakti is? To our audience it's like the aspect. So the Shiva is Considered the the more masculine for force I think it's it or it's more masculine But it represents more just like that pure pure consciousness Before anything is even created, but the second pure consciousness decides to create itself It's Shakti. I mean it has to come within the realm of Shakti. So the the The creative aspect of life all of that is Shakti the material aspect of life this Planet that we live on this this form that we take in our bodies. In other words the the instance we start living life Shiva expresses himself as Shakti. Yeah, you can't have one without the others like right shiva Shakti And this is why I got a good marriage It's the sacred marriage between like the consciousness and bliss. It also is the same thing as Chitinanda Yeah, you know if you hear Chitinanda chit is consciousness. Ananda is bliss and that is the Shakti So it's that yin and the yang it's always together. It's always in mesh together You really can't separate the two. Yeah, I was like Shiva Shakti with Jesus and Mary Magdalene I mean they you know, it's it when you talk about that sacred marriage You can't have one really without the other right I was telling my class on Sunday afternoon our we started a new beginner course at our business and I and I was saying This theory is so because a lot of this we find this heavily in yoga is really fun to talk about But then when you start to really think about it, it's like whoa Psychedelic trip it is like I laughed I told them that top my boyfriend's teacher before the Westerners started coming to India. He had this saying 70% practice 30% theory, but then these American these West Europeans and Americans showed up And all they wanted to do was sit around and like smoke and drink coffee and talk about philosophy and Guruji was like you got to actually practice this so like no Practice 1% theory because you can't your head will just like totally like it's such a What is it? Like of the unattainable unicorn the unsolvable riddle which is what David Greek my original teacher recalled the unsolvable riddle because they can't exist with We study them and juxtapose to each other, but they absolutely intertwine in Life and in energy and it's like in the gospel of the holy 12, which was a beautiful gospel. We read here That's a band book God a Jesus refers to God We have been taught our heavenly father, but in this missing gospel. He calls God mother father Mm-hmm. Never one without the other. Yeah, the other father mother. It's they're always That in that that being is always interlocked with these two Divine paths, right? You can't know Shiva without Shakti Like you can't like your mind can't even wrap itself around this idea of Shiva You need Shakti in order for you to even begin to comprehend What what it is because it's in our human form With our brains and with our senses and the way that we experience the world we experience it through Shakti So you go through Shakti to be able to understand like that pure Consciousness, you know because our mind you usually can't wrap itself around that because even the second we start to talk about it Like us talking about this is Shakti. Yeah, everything our comprehension of it. It's Shakti. You understand. Yeah Oh, I mean that the second it comes into any kind of a form of manifestation of talking of stinking Breathing it and experiencing it. It comes in the form of Shakti. Yeah. No, I know shit Without shot Well, I was thinking as you're saying that too like when we talk about Mary Magdalene We know that the church tried desperately to get rid of the divine feminine But how powerful was she that even through all their editing processes even though they got rid of 711 books that probably a lot of them probably spoke about that. She's still She still became a main character if you want to call our character in the New Testament That's oh, yeah, all the process of them trying to eliminate her. She still was there. They couldn't couldn't do it They couldn't do it They just turned her into like, you know, the like a prostitute something Yeah, acceptable to the the narrative that they were telling in the Bible and even you know, mother Mary I love working with mother like my love working with Mary Magdalene She comes in a lot of times in some of the healing sessions that I do With women especially for with women who are needing to re-empower themselves But mother Mary too is like this divine mother. She also in in the she also has a lineage Yeah, and she was actually a very powerful woman and You know the grandmother and Jesus's grandmother Anna. Yeah, we talked a lot about her as well Yeah What's interesting is that mother Mary comes in a lot when I work with men When they I mean they she came she comes in when I work with women too, but a lot with men Who we're having issues with their relationship with their mother Well, look at her and she just comes in with like this divine mother like true mother energy and just like bam, you know This is what my this is what unconditional motherly love feels like that's mother Mary energy like this unconditional Mother love that's gonna love you no matter what that's Mary But that's mother Mary and that's part of the divine feminine too, you know, it's like that aspect That's one of the Mary, you know Mary and then and then the Mary Magdalene who you know represents another aspect of divine feminine as well Somebody told me once and I don't know if I'm gonna say this right So it's a long time ago that with the divine feminine there like three stages There's the daughter the queen and the mother and it seems like They all have different like aspects of personalities and with Mary Magdalene I've seen more of this like queen aspect where she's very Tough and strong and we know like historically from the research We've done on her that she was far more educated in a secular way than most of the male She is right She knew a lot of the male the men that were with Jesus in that group didn't know how to read her right but she did which was So rare back in those days for a woman to be she wrote her own I believe she actually wrote her own gospel. No one dictated and dictated anybody. She could write it herself And then we see like the mother aspect that strong mother coming through Mother Mary that you're talking about that real unconditional like mama bear, you know, and you think about wrong and Like imagine being a having to hold That energy especially when you seeing your son having to go with you know what he went through. Yeah, and you're having to hold that space For for something that's just so brutal, you know in it was just one son. She had to watch go through that Jesus's brother James also After Jesus was executed and his brother was running the temple in Jerusalem. She had to watch her other son also Go through the same, you know, that's how dangerous this and that's why and I said I open this talk about the triggers Like we think this is triggering now for people. It was triggering back then too. That's why these people Had the lives they lived just because that was you were giving they were giving people this key to freedom Within themselves, you know, I know historically a lot of people thought when like, you know All that happened that it was gonna be a heaven on earth that but he was like, she's like no heavens inside of you I'm not gonna give you a throat And that's a lot of Mary Magdalene's teachings too about And you were the book you had a book right that you said that you use a lot I like this one It doesn't just have the Gospels, but it's Mary Magdalene revealed and it's by Megan Watterson and she Studied ministry and all that stuff. So she puts a lot of her own personal points of you Because she starts she studied especially like that early Christianity early early Christianity Because she always said that or in her book Which is what you might fit or what I felt like for sure because I grew up Catholic So, I mean I have a connection to Christianity in that way because I'm Sam from Peru So my spain and my Spanish family was you know, they still are they're they're pretty devout Catholic and But one thing about the that though is it did bring me an appreciation of mother Mary But anyways, she was talking about how or in her story in her book to how She just didn't she was she felt like she was Christian But did not relate at all whatsoever to the Christianity that was being put out there But as she began to study for instance that other Gospels because in here I think she has like the gospel, you know some of the Gospels of Thomas and you know the one that are in the Naga Hamadi, I don't know how to say that. Yeah, that's it. She has some of those the some of those Gospels in here as well that then Christianity started to make sense to her because you know, you look like you feel a calling you have a hunger To learn to know but then you know that what you're being fed There's not something you just as intuitive, you know that there's something not right or there's something missing or what's going on here and So you might not you might be really attracted to like the teachings of Jesus and all that that you just knew that there was something Missing that's what she talks about in her book that I think I can relate to and a lot of people a lot of other people can relate to so You know, you're you're you're a Christian, but you're really not I mean you have You believe but you just don't buy into or feel in your heart the narrative that's been put out there But then when you start to see what else is out there. You're like, oh, okay Now this makes sense this I can follow this I feel in my heart this I understand and not to say that everything in the The canonized Bible is incorrect because you know, there's some good stuff in there as well, but you just know it's like there's something We read through the gospel of holy 12 you could actually go through the gospels and see Where synopsis had been like cut out edited that you can see where they removed chunks of the story And I love that you're bringing that up because I've had a lot of people on my channel say that as well Like I never really felt comfortable at church But I always loved God and always felt like an outcast because I had this weird like juxtaposition where I loved God But I wasn't comfortable with what I was being taught and now things are making more sense So I think and that's what a negative 48 and my friend Prime Minister both said this I know people are gonna speculate so everybody thinks, you know, they know who negative 48 is wink wink But he said in the new in the new world The new timeline we're moving into and why everything's so chaotic right now things like religion are gonna fade away and Faith is gonna fly That we're gonna we're not gonna we're gonna have such an awakening within us that we're not gonna need Exterior dogmatic rules put before us by another mortal or we're gonna be more comfortable with in within our own understanding of who these people who these beings are and our relationship With those beings that it's so personal that nobody else is gonna be able to come in and start to like Triangulate us with God or with their mother father Whatever whatever the universe you want to call the universe? And so I think that's so beautiful and I will put guys I will go and find that book and I'll put a link to it in the description box So that's a book you want to order so you can just click in the link from the box to get to see the book But um, do you want to talk a little bit about the gospel of Mary and some of her teachings? Well, there is one because I know when we're talking about was like, okay. Well, what do we want to? Talk about this time around and besides Mary Magdalene and magic and all this stuff it was also about like just how we get in our own way and Mary Magdalene This is Mary. I guess gospel 9.18 to 25 and she talks about the The seven things that well the the way I interpret the seven things that cloak our heart or that cloak us From being able to see or fully understand the yoga sutras, you know, we would call that the glacias but there are five of those the Mary Magdalene also I had her seven and the the first form is darkness and And as I was reading it through this book as well and the way that Megan interprets It's is darkness. It is when we feel that heaviness that Despair You know, like, you know that sadness that inertia that begins to come in and we can't see beyond our own grief Or our own You know our own sadness Yeah, and then the the second one is desire But you know thinking of desire the way I think of it and the way she was interpreted to is like like Addictions like desire when it turns into addictions or to attachments So where we feel like we need to this thing so much that we this desire or whatever so much of that It takes us away from like really knowing ourselves or you know, we use the desire or addictions to hide from ourselves You know So there are strong desires whether it's you know through addictions or Sexual desire, of course, there's nothing wrong with sex But if we're we're using it for For to cover something up, right now if we're using it to to not see something about ourselves Or we get So lost maybe sometimes in the pleasure of whatever it is that we're getting into That we become Attached to the pleasure and forget that we can also like that pleasure is inside of us it's right about that same thing of You can create the joy and the pleasure from within you don't need like this extra thing like the extra stuff is just extra Yeah, you know what I mean Patanjali says that as well in the yoga sutras and everything you need you have within you And I know a rom-dos. I think we spoke about rom-dos last time where he said and he Had a little bit of a issue with I don't know if I can say this I might have to court this word bleep this word out drug abuse and Cindy knows this whole story I'm not gonna get into you guys can look up rom-dos, but he realized from his experimentation with that that God was basically tapping him on the shoulder being like that feeling you had You can create within yourself without this extra Stuff exactly that's what I got we were talking about last time for my ayahuasca experience Which it was like this pure hell experience because like that voice inside of me said you don't need this drug to know God I'm like you needed this to see what you were doing to yourself But you don't actually need this to know to know something bigger to know God, so That's what you're wanting too too bad. So sad. You weren't gonna get it Yeah, do you ever you said that I thought you know I just had this thought I was like in the same thing goes with like the dogmatic teachings of any religion not just Christianity You don't need that to know God Mm-hmm. No God you just need you Exactly, and so I think that's what you know They mean by like desire your attachments and how that can take you away from your from yourself And then the third one is ignorance and I and I think this is just when was the stuff is so subconscious You know that Or we just don't know you know or we don't know something about ourselves or something It was just buried so deep that we're ignorant about it Until we become aware. So, you know, I think the ignorance thing is We're all working on that when I think, you know, every day or something new is being revealed or uncovered Yeah, human beings that's part of that's part of that thing as part of the path for every human is Find where those those blocks are of your own knowledge, you know, there's two there's two sayings One is ignorance is bliss, but the other is knowledge is power mm-hmm and That's my one of my boyfriend's teachers used to say bliss can be blistering. Oh Yes, it absolutely can't be or at least your path to bliss. Yeah, definitely blistering Yeah, yeah And the fourth one is zeal for death and so Again, I was like reading her interpretation which kind of makes sense to me and this is like when you do things that are unhealthy Like it's a zeal for death It's like why when you know this stuff is really really bad for you or like eating this thing is bad for you You're doing that thing is bad for you. Why do you do it? You know or it that it can take away from your longevity can take away from your health It can you know, just take away from your quality of life Yeah, that zeal for death and I think you know when you're talking about self-sabotage that that I feel like that could Go within that Within that category like why do we sell saboteur? That's a whole other Series I think but why do we sell sabotage ourselves? Why do we have this zeal for death? Why are we afraid of our own life? Yeah, our power and why are we afraid of just being really powerful and And like taking in life to the fullest. Why do we dole ourselves or you know, why do we make ourselves smaller or? Because you know, you see so many people that would rather choose they choose death rather than awakening Yeah, because awakening is you have to face all your demons and all your fears, right? I'll die They say like in our community in this truth or community they say there's a red pill where you wake up But there's also a black pill that comes with the red pill where you go into like a deep depression When you start to become aware and you and I think a lot of people fear that they fear that Understanding that everything they've believed. Oh, we lost your face again your beautiful face That everything they believed in this life is is an illusion so therefore they don't want to go through the pain of that And we've talked about this before but within that darkness within that pain when you work through it and you get to the other side It's liberating Yeah, I mean eventually it is liberating once you've processed all of the the stuff that you have to process In the processing part isn't pretty. It's not fun. But once you get through it Yeah, there is like this is this clarity that comes to the other side of that if you're just willing to go through the The shadow of the valley of death to get to that That's what we're talking about that too I mean speaking up we talked about how people get really triggered by this information That wasn't brought forth in their churches, but there you go. There's that black peel pill. That's not a really southern peel Where you realize that you have been fed a bunch of crap basically and once you let go of the attachment You had to that lie that illusion and you go wait a minute But the truth is so much prettier Wow, thank you. It's like my friend tomorrow from Australia says thank you cancel. Thank you. Yes So so I think people who are triggered by this stuff they're they're hitting up against that What Mary Magdalene is talking about that idea that zeal for death of not, you know, wanting to move through it So awesome. Yes. All right and then The face that's the zeal for death the fifth is the realm of the flesh And I think we have to be careful in how we interpret that because there's nothing wrong with the flesh There's nothing wrong with the human form But it can go wrong is if that's the only thing that you identify with I mean part of the divine feminine path and the Shakti path or the tantric path is that you have to go through your flesh in the order or you go One of the paths is you can go through your flesh to connect with the divine But what happens if you just get stuck in flesh, right? And you forget that there's a divine within you and you're just stuck in flesh and nothing else That's the hardest. I think Everything's up in my because Cindy takes I teach at Cindy's Shala for yoga school on Sunday mornings and I talk about us all the time because it's They say the teacher talk is about what the teacher is trying to understand You know because it's so and that's the yoga practice itself. We talked about in one episode that we use these Asanas these postures and we get kind of uncomfortable in order to kind of trigger the flesh So we're using it to understand we're more than the flesh But yet we have to use the flesh and exactly Sensation of flesh which is connected to the sensation of thought in order to realize we're not just flesh and thought It's so like Exactly, I mean you could probably write a dissertation just on this one concept alone You know on all of this you can I mean you can go so deep into each interview single one of this. That's why With the more you know, you realize the less you actually know That's what I realized every single time I learned something I realized. Oh, man. I just really don't know anything at all. Do I? There's a quote I think it says the more I learned the less I know Yes, there's there's another quote a wise person once said nothing Yes I Mean the sixth one is the foolish wisdom of the flesh and the way I interpret this it is an Undisciplined mind or body like friends like if you had absolutely Like no discipline for yourself or for your life or no kind of like reverence for life and You just just gave yourself into your samskaras, you know, what we call just your habits Yeah, no, you'd be sitting on the couch eating like a thousand donuts and potato chips and Watching hours of strings TV But the foolishness of the flesh is from like an undisciplined Like an undisciplined life or an undisciplined body or undisciplined mind Because without the discipline, I mean, yes, there's a there's there's some stuff within you That's not always it's always going to make the right decision just automatically, you know what? I mean, it's like you have to train yourself to You know walk the path that you want to go because if you don't you can like turn into like this sloth that is you know again unhealthy or Disconnected or you know, like eating all the dough not not that I have anything against donuts I guess I say don't that's because I actually like donuts So I have to make sure I don't have to make sure I don't eat all the doughnuts And all the potato chips Yeah, no and not we call that in my boyfriend talks about that a lot too because you know When you're doing yoga practice you have to be disciplined like because we talked about this on Sunday Cindy like uh, you know, we have a honeymoon phase where you're like this is amazing But then once the honeymoon phase is over that's when the real work starts because you have to I'm sure Cindy and I probably I know I can speak for myself Most days I'm dragging myself to my mat and yeah, I'll do the work and I want to I want to land the bed and Eat I want to eat breakfast in bed. Pardon me that's that that kid inside is like I'm an adult now I don't have to you know, like, you know I know that that the work as hard as it is every day that there is a discipline and my boyfriend also kind of Interchanges the word discipline with devotion that you have to have this devotion to that path and that motion means that you just It's a powerful. It's not just I'm gonna do this because I have to it's because there's purpose Why I'm restraining myself from eating because I'm like you Cindy I could literally go sit in Dunkin Donuts and just that'd be my happy place All day. That'd be my happy place. Actually one time we were in India We saw they opened up this like donut shop and we had been there for a couple months So we were like, oh, we have to go get these donuts and we were so excited I'm just laughing about this the other day and we got there and we got don't we like a box of donuts and we got I'm home and they weren't like our doughnuts You're like, oh man, I was like that was God just going Exactly So so yeah, yeah, I think I think a lot of people I think that might be actually out of all her Her obstacles that might be the one that most people watching probably can understand the most because as adults especially We know we have to have a disc we under we have the lot kids don't have that logic Adults do of why we can't always be doing what we want to be doing instead We have to be doing what we need to be doing right in order to keep ourselves Where we need to be so mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, cuz what you want isn't necessarily it's gonna be what's what's Best for you now some people like hearing that because there's some tea You know like all this other newer teachings that are out there to this as I'll just you know Do what you want and all this wonderful things will happen and yes and no it depends on where that desire is coming from Right is that desire coming from the highest place of your heart from your higher self or is that desire coming from? You know a lower part of you that's actually wanting to sabotage to sell sabotage And that's where I think of a practicing kind of a practice comes in handy so that you can begin to determine between the two Yeah, where's this desire coming from is it really coming from my my highest most magical best self or is it coming from? You know some other some other place that just Wants because it wants and you know what you know what I mean the insatiable It's kind of like I I personally have like kind of an issue with the whole like body Positivity movement because of that now. I think that the sentiment of being body positive is good You should always love yourself regardless of what you're struggling with and have that self love However, this movement has taken it to the extreme where I've watched other YouTube's of people being like bullied because they've decided to lose weight or you know, they've pushed this idea of of Being in a place with your body. That's not healthy and it's causing an imbalance and in your your psyche almost where You know, you should still as one of my friends said yeah Even if you're you know overweight or something and you want to lose weight Don't you love yourself in the process that should be the body positivity But you know that we are and it's not and I hate to like pick on like people overweight because we all have these issues We all have whether it's whether it's addiction to cigarettes or you know to whatever I mean I know I'm addicted to caffeine, you know, like we all have these different things we have to work through It's just I think that the weight issue is more evident, you know Then and that's why they started this whole movement now It's kind of backfired and it's like well We know that anytime there's an imbalance in the in the psyche or in the body that we need to like observe that and see what's Causing now we talked about that earlier in the past to see what's causing this type of like attachment, you know So um, so yeah, I think yeah, especially here in America. We uh, we we want to like I want I want I want I need I need I need and I know even like the young we always the generation below us were always like But uh, you know, I know kids Cindy like we had to work for things We you know You got out of school and you got the low-paid job and you need to work up And it was expected that you would share an apartment with like five other people because and now kids are expecting it Because they want they want they want so it's it is opening up this path of not understanding the discipline of of Where you're going into low vibration. So if that makes sense, I hope that makes exactly yeah Yeah, it's but you need to tune into that it's like it's this desire this one coming from low vibration It's a good way of putting it or is it coming from a high vibration that's going to again be life affirming for me instead of taking away and I think one I read something that makes sense like because sometimes if something has short term value like short term It satisfies you short term but long term it's going to cause a problem Then you probably don't need to do that thing, you know So you can look at it, you know short term versus long term like short term. It might be very satisfying But long term like how's that really going to affect you, you know Yeah, like uh, do something to me that your future self will thank you for Yeah, yeah, exactly right. Yeah, and I'm telling you I mean I'm selling Cindy and I both have been practicing every day for years and it's not It doesn't get you still have to I mean every day you still have to force that discipline and that devotion because Well, I think there is a there's a certain commitment to the path of like wanting to expand expand consciousness and And you know, and it depends on how badly you want it Yeah, and and I think a lot of that is you either some people have a like a big hunger for it And then some people don't and that's okay if you don't like my husband does it He doesn't have a big hunger for awakening or anything like that But he's just fine, you know, he's just going along with his life and everything is good. That's not his dharma Yeah, but no, I'm glad. Yeah, because there is we know that and I had a spear I can't remember who said this to me. It was years ago at another Spirit of Hillers said we live we have like active lives and we have passive lives So like my sister has a very passive life life has come very naturally for her Where have I been through a lot of obstacles and hardships? So we grew up in the same household We, you know, but it's just your growth and after an active life. Usually you take a life of rest So it could be that your husband is resting this life To rebuild to then come back the next life and jump up again You know, so and then there's nothing absolutely nothing wrong with that, you know Um, but then sometimes yeah, you're born with like this hunger And to like really want to know more to wake him more, you know And you you just kind of like put on this path and if you are dedicated Like if you really that that hunger or that um desire see that's the highest desire for me. That's a higher desire um You know, you'll do the things you'll you'll watch what you eat or you'll wake up every morning and do your Ashanga practice, you'll you know, you contemplate you'll study you'll read Because it's the inside of you you you can't help it I guess what i'm trying to say is if you don't have like this deep deep hunger It's okay too. Yeah, I mean don't think like oh my gosh Now I have to wake up and I have to do this and I have to do that I have to practice every day That may be the path for you, but it may not be and that's okay too. You know what I mean And I tell me that's funny because I tell our beginner students all the time because you know at aya at our Charlotte's like, you know, we do six days a week and I'm like That might not I actually said it the last sunday I was like, you know, that might not be what you do right now You might just do two days a week. You might do three days a week, you know, you know And it yeah, there's no there's no cookie cutter one size fits all but again that comes back to Mary Magdalene And these these true christian teachings which were very mystical that it's you know The original christians were called or historians. Let me rephrase that historians call the original christians The nostics, that's why Mary Magdalene's gospel is considered a nostic gospel. They didn't call themselves that they just called themselves themselves But no, they're just I'm just me. Um, nostic is a greek word. It comes from gnosis, which is inner knowing Inner knowing so so yeah, but I like I'm glad you brought that up sunday because every single person And I just got through recording something for the channel that won't be released until wednesday, but every single person Every single person as I as we just said you don't need somebody else To introduce you to god You don't need somebody else That's That's you have people like cindy or myself or other tomorrow that are going to help you show you paths But we know this like pratyahara self study You can take a horse to water, but you can't make a drink like all that Inner knowing has to come from you nobody else can like push a button on you to make that happen for you And so and so i'm glad you said that so if if what we're saying doesn't resonate with what you're feeling sending i've been on this path for a really long time so So um, it's different outlooks different perspectives. So what works for you What you feel like is your highest greater good then that's awesome You know and for her husband and for many people that's just smiling every day when they get up out of bed I you're exactly the filiest person like he's like the nicest kindest like So is cindy. They're a perfect couple. They're a really pretty couple too Their their kid is really really he's struck the genetic lottery. So So he's pretty cute though my son. Yeah, my husband's pretty cute too, but yeah Very attractive couple so um, so yeah, it's it's all and I think people who are comfortable with their own spirituality and their own work Are also comfortable with other people's place as well Exactly. Yeah You have that that's respect for other people other people that try to get involved in other people's Your relationship with the divine that's obviously says a lot more about that person who's projecting themselves into when you're trying to change that person Yeah, instead of letting them just be awakened in their own Um in their own way and in their own timeline. Yeah Yeah, because everyone's timeline is different too Absolutely and Todd my boyfriend says that I know we may have talked about this before because Todd has been teaching for about as long as cindy I think he's 24 years now. They're they're both been teaching for a very long time And um, he says he's always said one of the hardest things for him as a teacher Is that he doesn't know, you know, you see karma is your work He needs to have your karma you have your work and he doesn't know sometimes like he'll try to step in And kind of guide a student but sometimes he says, you know, I have to let them make their mistakes I have to let them I don't know what kind of karma or work they've already Before taking this incarnation that's going to help them. So I can't get involved in that And that is that's so true because yeah, every person has their own agreement that they've made before taking this life and so That's not our job as human beings to Intercept that Because every person has to find that within themselves and that is it's met my opinion. That's kind of what mary is saying as well as you Do not own self be true. You have to like find that within you, you know, exactly. Oh, yeah, absolutely And do you want to go over the clashes too? I mean, well, she has seven right? We didn't go through all seven Did we this there's one more the last one the seventh is the wisdom of the wrathful person and I know And there's so many ways I think to take that to you like the wrathful person in the anger Because Because I find it interesting it says she she didn't say Which I maybe you can help me to her because I don't you know I'm personally still trying to figure it this out. It's she says the wisdom Of the wrathful person not just like the angst of the wrathful person But the wisdom of the wrathful person. So I think there's something to that as well where I mean, I don't know. It's the way that we also process and look at anger where anger um Anger can be a positive thing because it's what propels you into motion Yeah, and it's what drives you to inspiration to make change in the world and to make change in life But so so the wisdom of the wrathful person like that's where the wisdom can come from But if you just stay in the wrath though And you stay in the energy of anger without letting it propel you forward then that's a very dangerous place to be Yeah, and miss miss. I loved how you brought that up because you're right We have to get like we're seeing that in the world right now And I have to be very careful about what I say everybody knows on youtube But Cindy and I've had these conversations as well and of course we've had on this channel We're seeing some pretty ridiculous things happen Right now in our world and part of part of that is to piss people off enough to get them to do something you know and so but when you take that anger And you use it properly again to prepare propel change To make it a better place for yourself to understand yourself more to understand your own for us now on this timeline It's to understand our own sovereignty You know that that we don't belong to anybody. We belong to ourselves but the wrathful person If you take the anger and you project it In an unhealthy way Onto other people that's when there's danger But when you're actually able to like acknowledge where you're because a lot of people have anger issues a lot of people You know you look at people have misplaced anger where they just explode Um of the slightest thing and that's come from something else Do you have people like I feel like I do this where I'll hold in anger For so long where almost becomes like a pressure cooker where then I just Just cry and I don't you know It's like we all have to learn how to take that because all emotion we have anger joy happiness laughter and everything is coming from a thought emotion that's attached that's What what might make me angry might not make Cindy angry might not make you angry What might make me laugh might not make you laugh because we're all having our own So so yeah, I think that wisdom and finding that nugget of where that um Potency for change Can happen does that make sense am I making sense? Yeah, I know Well, yeah, well because anger is a useful emotion in that The way I see it you get angry when you feel powerless Like if someone tries to take away your power in some kind of way it's like anger comes in To set boundaries right to say wait a minute. You're overstepping here Yeah, the anger begins to set boundaries for yourself or for your people for your tribe or whatever, you know and But it's almost like you have to alchemize your anger to certainly like you have to see it is that it's like Oh my gosh, you know, I'm so angry right now But you can take that anger into like negativity or vengeance or something It doesn't quite alchemize the way that it needs to Or you can work with that anger in a way to where You understand that okay. How much how am I feeling powerless here? What boundaries am I actually needing to uphold for myself? And how can I then use that wisdom that I got from the anger so the anger Gives you that wisdom that knowledge And then act from there. Do you see what I mean? So it's like yeah, so it's absolutely Absolutely, and that's like you have to alchemize it. You have to process it through Instead of staying in the anger or put in and misplacing it Taking that anger and throwing it into somebody else Like we were talking about and using that information to put the boundaries up so that you're and you find that How many people are people watching have you ever been in a situation Where you are being bullied or something in the minute you calmly stood up for yourself? You felt better Yeah in a proper way instead of taking and throwing it on someone innocent That's why we talked about in a prior episode about platangeline and a hemsa meaning non-violence Where he tells it he doesn't say peace says pick non-violence. So you're able to filter through the emotion And set a boundary that's not that's not being violent to the person that's pissing you off That's just taking care of yourself And you're right. Yeah, so yeah, I like you that way you explained it was beautiful. Absolutely beautiful Um, and that's we do we do and I'm thinking about you know growing up in a I grew up on a southern presbyterian church, which down here So cindy's a rarity down here in the south. We don't have many catholics down here in the south That's more what I listen to this podcast about small town murders And they always say like catholics the baptist of the north baptist the catholics of the south because in the south It's a very evangelical like Protestant and we're To be like as women I know in the we're talking about this on david zublik's channel as well Speaking of the divine feminine as women in some of these like unhealthy christian churches were taught to like almost be doormats You know women are kind of taught to like Yeah, and and and that is You know that is a misplaced You know when you start to get angry when you know someone you know, that is that is divinity showing you You don't need to be treated that way. Exactly right and you should be someone over step Yeah, someone that over steps your boundary. Someone is trying to take away your power I'm just trying to siphon that power away from you. So Take it back in a way. Yeah, and I think that's part of the divine feminine too is being able to You know you think about mary magdalene and mother mary and how strong of women they were They were graceful women You know, I when I think of mary magdalene and mother mary. I want to hug them You know like they would be very loving and protective of children, but they also they're not gonna What is what is that saying and do no harm but take no shit? Exactly You know and there were I mean both mary magdalene and to the wife of jesus I think we know now that was his wife and he was married And his mother sat there the whole damn time and watched him leave this earth They watched the one man. They both loved in different ways in different ways You know, they sat there at the male disciples didn't hang they were they ran off. That's divine feminine Exactly, they're the ones that stuck around and they had the grit Yeah, take it. Yeah I mean, how many I've heard so many stories that you have a child Cindy of when the kid gets sick the husband is always like the kid starts throwing up and the husband's like Too but the mother Help me with this The the kid skins its knee and the mother's the one that has and the husband's like, you know, I can't even like So that divine feminine has been so squashed and it's not saying that there's not power in the masculine I think that's one one way like our modern day like women's live has kind of gone awry Where oh, yeah, yeah, men are not less than women. No We're equal. We compliment each other the the power of the same thing. It's the shakhti. It's the sacred marriage. We you know We need each other Yeah, regardless of whether and I know I mean don't mean to say because I actually do like my best friend Is gay like I and I know Cindy is very supportive of of everybody, you know, their own sexuality So we're not really talking about it more of a it's more of just the energy aspect of these of these elements So a man can be also carry divine feminine a woman can carry divine masculine In fact, most of us do have a balance of both within us. So um, so yeah, it's so beautiful I think I just in my mind's eye. I see Mary Magdalen is just being this just gorgeous like almost like amazon type like I know with this just round skin beautiful brown hair and Big eyes and luminous, you know radiance When we were studying her gospel. We this was probably like a gotten months ago. She was one of the first I think we read thomas first and then we read mary. Um, I did a huge deep dive on like her folklore with the cathars Because we talked about the cathars as well, which was her lineage of teaching. Um, we know that she ran off to um Gaul which is France now the south of France. Um, and she didn't run off like she had to abandon They basically like had to go to exile Because of what they were teaching and there were all these stories from the south of France where You know, she lost her husband at a young age You know, we know now that Jesus was actually 36 when he when he lost his life not 33 Which makes sense because that equals nine, which is a very divine number. Um, and there were stories of After she taught for years and years and years and created this cathar line She basically went into the wilderness because she wanted to just like die in peace But the story goes that she just didn't die Like she just kept living and it was kind of it was kind of comical reading some of these stories like she kept wanting to leave the earth and She couldn't she had to like stay A lot longer of a life than she wanted because she wanted to move on, you know Yeah Well, you know And then just taking that back all the way back around what we were talking about in the beginning and magic And everything in her being like this priestess of a higher order. She was a magician like she was a mage She knew how to make the sacred connections by sacred connections with mother earth itself And you know the sacred connections with the higher beings of light that she was working with at the time as well And that you know, it was from all that teaching, you know from her pre like she was a high priestess Yeah, she went through some pretty extreme teachings To become that high priestess. So she had magic in her Yeah, you know, so you know just bringing it back around to this idea of magic and Ceremony and ritual in making these connections with the with the unseen forces She was she was a master Yeah As well, you know, I'm glad you we've talked about that a lot before and I really want to emphasize that with people who are thinking Oh, this is you know, hollywood makes that kind of stuff look fun But it's it can be it's it's it's the path less less less taken because She got I mean I can imagine through her training. She got her ass handed to her multiple times Because that's what happens You know, I mean you were I don't know if you want to share a little bit about what you've been through These last few weeks and we can't say the virus name because of uh, you too, but you got very very sick I did I did get very very sick in um, and it was also while I was exploring It's funny because I got very very sick while I was exploring these teachings at the same time because I'm I'm running another force right now called ascension Where we've been studying like isis and hathor and and we've been reading this Mary Magdalene book And so right around all that time same time I got I got sick And um, and I was and I know you talked about you know, you're sickness too like when you're going through transmission So this with with the with the with the disease um I was sick for a good seven days seven days of fever. I mean it definitely had a bite to it um And in about the the third or fourth day. I had also started my cycle Maybe a little bit more than what the guys want to hear but I had started my cycle And it was sitting there guys. Yeah, I know and it was like these these three days of just major purging where I was in fever And I was under I mean I really feel like I was also under the influence of just this cleanse of this purge You know through fever and then I was also like hemorrhaging and it was um You know, it was it was pretty it was I mean it was an experience. Luckily that my body could handle, you know, I'm healthy Luckily, you know through the yoga practices and everything like that. So my body was healthy enough to handle both holding the sickness and the This you know my cycle and everything and all these These these uh mysteries all this these teachings coming in all at the same time And it was I mean it was palatious. I mean it was like oh my god Let this be over with please. I mean it was rough Yeah, but talking about how you know going and you lose your appetite or I lost my appetite So I also couldn't eat much. So I had lost Weight on top of that. So it was just like this major I I felt like my whole body was being rearranged which I mean I think it was is that everything Energetically and all that was just completely rearranged turned inside out spit out And then other stuff brought back in And um, I'm just now that was at the end of I you know, actually, um, I started to feel unwell The last time we we came together And that was when it's when the unwellness Started to started to come in. Yes And I got I got Sinai we're talking about it at the at her shell Like because I got a fever mine was different than hers because I didn't have any like respiratory stuff It was just y'all know I talked about a slow gray and I was real congested I'm still a little congested and um, we spoke about it because my boyfriend talks about I did a video on it that um When you Level up like when your consciousness has to level up one thing we don't understand in the west and this is taught in the east is that viruses fevers are a necessary part Of your awakening to happen and like my boyfriend's teacher Used to always get excited When his students got like the fever or got you know Kind of got their asses kicked a little bit because it meant that the alchemy of everything you were working on Your self study your work even if it's something sometimes I feel like in my experience sometimes those breakthroughs where like those fevers come happen Right after you've gone through a period of like self doubt Like nothing's working and also you should get smacked and You come back and everything after you've healed. It's like you've got this clearness in your eyes. Everything has changed You know and so sinning I we're talking about that that we both had got she got it worse than I did But it was like um, it was necessary the universe allowed her to get Sick so that stuff could be like Yes, and not to minimize because I I got the you know the sickness And um, not to to minimize it. I mean like I said, I was I'm in pretty good health Um So I just wanted to use to make sure to that I'm not actually downplaying, you know for some of those who do get unwell You know, but it also um Put into perspective how important it is to to do your work and to be healthy You know when it gives you a healthier appreciation, I think Just a different perspective On what all this is it gives you a different appreciation for the grand scheme of life And and what you know, we didn't come here just to sit back Well, those of us maybe some people but those wasn't the active life that want to that have that hunger that it's to scratch We didn't come here to sit around and just watch stuff go by we came here to actively participate And to understand that um and that and that agreement to actively participate means that sometimes we don't go It's not fun. Sometimes it's it can be very good your knees um And a lot of ways I think that's kind of like when you get sick during the stuff It kind of brings you to your knees I was saying it was kind of like a come to jesus moment, but in this situation it was more of a come to marry moment Yes Well, because it got it gets in here like when you're going through something that's more existential You know because I mean it really penetrated my mind It brought up some like shadowy things like shadowy beliefs shadowy things of that felt very Like abysmal that there there were my shadows that I had to look at And what I realized about this this past experience is like if you're having a bad day or something like that You know my last day or two and you're like, no, but like this was Going on for a couple of weeks And even after I was starting to physically feel better. My mind was still like like churning It was agitated that there was it was existential like there was something that This whole process was trying to show me Again, kind of like how the ayahuasca showed me. It's like, hey, you're just doing this to yourself this is a social construct that you made up in your own mind and You know, you're just doing this to yourself kind of a thing and When I began to actually see that I was like, okay, then I was able to live right myself out of the agitation, you know Because we're always wanting to even no matter how much work that you do we do we're we're still always trying to blame it on somebody else And then it comes back. I was like, okay Then you know once I realized that that I was like, okay Then yeah, that's when things started to shift, you know I'm glad you said that actually we could probably do a whole episode on how whatever something like that happens I was trying to blame it also because that's such a human thing to do to be like, yeah This is you know to take that, you know, yeah, I love that you said that. Yeah So, um, well, Sydney, we've been going for about an hour and a half now. I don't want to keep you all day Now you have a new course coming up Yeah, um just speaking about the magic and connecting with your intuition connecting with the The powers that be the sacred elements. I have an initiation course. That's actually starting on october 2nd We always run at this time of the year. We do it once a year because this is when the veils are thinning You know, we're reaching october time and you could probably feel it already. I probably don't even have to tell you like the fall time Begins to to do things to you where you like you feel change And so we run it during this time because yeah And then like october how, you know, salway and halloween the veils are the thinnest and that's when that you're more open to Uh to those unseen forces that you might have been closed off to before And so we start by working with making the safer connections with the elements like with earth with air with fire Not only because they're the easiest to start with because when they are they're tangible You can actually see it so that you you can understand it in the more tangible way But they also have benefits that are Like that you That are not as tangible. Do you see what I mean? It's like they they feed you in so many ways And so through uh connecting with the elements and we do it in the andian I'm andi my my friend who does it with me. She has more cold tech wisdom I have more andian wisdom, but it's shamanic in nature And through that that through that process we help you in developing your intuition might like Opening up your psychic gifts, you know learning how to discern between your intuition and other things We're both a master energy practitioner. So we do light body activations and dna activations to awaken Like your your energetic body to more knowing and Yeah, anyway, it's just you know, it's a lot of good stuff Can people do that if they don't live nearby can they do it on zoom or just they have to be in Well, wherever we may offer it on zoom this one We're doing it as a live experience But we've tried it before where we tried to do it as a hybrid a live experience in zoom But that didn't seem to work as well If there's enough, you know, we might I think we may do a zoom where it's just zoom and they're not, you know Combined yeah, but this one we're doing it as a live experience But we might offer it as a zoom experience as well So people don't live nearby and they want to participate and but you don't have a zoom offered yet They can just contact you right so you can kind of get it the amount of people that would be interested in doing something like that Exactly Contact all of her contact. I'll put down in the description box below and I want to say to you guys Like this is my favorite time of year the fall like I love this I know that when we've been uncovering all this stuff about the other side of this game the dark arts They use this time as well Yes Purposes but what we'll go right back to swing back to we start in the beginning before everybody freaks out about that Remember, it's just nature We're the conduit So I've said this about christmas about modigra like moving forward We know there's been some sinister stuff happening But we you own that power where you can make it for your own benefit for the benefit of humanity Whatever you want to call it. So and I love this time of year and you're right. There is a christmas and a It does feel this is a magical time of year to me this whole I think a lot of people love this time of year This is a very sacred time of year for a lot of people. I don't even know it They just feel that love in their heart. And so, you know, we talk about the veil being thin It's not just you know, we first start awakening. It's not just the veils to the underworld that are thin It's oh no. No. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, there's so much more out there than just the underworld I mean, there's a whole thing You go higher and then yeah bigger is bigger than the underworld Yeah, absolutely. It's massive and it's expansive and it's just you know, there's so much possibility and potential So just don't you just go that way I mean, sometimes you got to go that way to go that way, but You know, when we think of the veil city, you know, we always think yeah, these these darker Forces that there is so much more out there That is that and you know, and then the darker energy See and the thing is I think bob marley said something along this line is you know The the the darker the evil or whatever you want to call it. It's it's always working. It's never giving up So neither should you I mean you should if you feel yourself called to do this kind of work I mean you got to work it because they're never going to give up. You can't give up either Yeah Use it to uplift, you know, you can use the same word to uplift the planet to uplift yourself to lift humanity And we talked about this last time like incendi will help you with this like the whole discernment between when you start to connect with The entities beyond the veil that understanding discernment of you having that power to different differentiate between What's a good entity and what's a bad one and cindy can help you with that You know, she can help you like not tell you but help you find that that information within yourself So that you know You know that me mary magdalene is on the other side of the veil right now I mean how else are you going to connect with her and her wisdom like really intuitively, you know, mother mary Is over there jesus is over there and any other of these beings ascended masters or deities that you That you see it as helping you they are they're on the other side, you know, that's how you connect Yeah, it's the whole the whole principle of the universe is free will so they're waiting To initiate And you like to remind you but they're they're they're waiting for you with loving arms, you know, so It might not feel loving at times when you go through those lenses, but No But I assure you it is um But anyway, so guys, I'm going to put all of that information down in the description box again If you live near georgia or atlanta areas and he's in marietta We picked up a awesome new student at the shala from uh for our last interview together So that's I'll give you a little shout out right now I won't say your names. I don't want to dox anybody but but we have had somebody come into the school So if you live near the marietta area and you want to do um her course then you can come in live But if you don't live in the area and you're interested in doing like a group work with cindy on this stuff Please contact her so that she knows How many people might potentially be interested in doing like a zoom type of program This this particular topic now again, uh at sacred garden yoga, which is cindy's yoga school I will place the website link to that down in the description box below So you can see the schedule if you don't live in georgia And you want to take any of her like just regular Live weekly yoga classes you can sign up some of those classes She shares on our youtube page, which I will link to that as well in the description box But if you want to take it a live class with cindy as she's just teaching again Not part of the course, but just in the live class You can see the classes and the zooms are please remember. We are on eastern standard time So you'll have to figure out what time so for class What's like 11 o'clock in the morning here on eastern standard time? You're gonna have to figure out what time that is for your time zone because it will be happening in our time zone I feel weird having to even say that but this is the world we live in So yeah, and then of course again if you want to do the ascension uh courses with cindy And you don't live in georgia Just let her know so she can figure that out for a future date to start that with a group outside of Of our hometown here in and the deep south the deep Bell So I know it's so it's so funny because cindy you spent most of your life here in the deep south and you don't have a southern Accident at all. Do you it comes out every now and then my husband has a deep deep accent? It doesn't be ever heard him talk, but he is southern So every now and again my I just can't help it It does come out when i'm drinking when i'm drinking the southern accent comes out a little bit, but uh Yeah It's our our when I count I feel always giggle to myself when I'm teaching because like when I teach I count in sanskrit So I'm like I'm inhale. I'm using the sanskrit and then when we have a posture that's that's stable I'll count in english and it's dammit. It's every time I say four. I feel like I go four Anybody notice that That was um that was to me Now now on sunday cindy's gonna be listening for that I didn't know you were gonna go four I was like, oh there she is There it is. There's that georgia. There's that georgia right there But it's funny. I will say my teacher in india. I don't think he can differentiate between like my accent and like an english person I think that we could think he hears it the same So that's interesting even though I we hear different accents, but uh, but anyway, that's just just some humor there guys All right. Thank you so much cindy. I can't wait Let's let's schedule something again and we'll go deeper and maybe self sabotage or something because that it could be a whole program couldn't it? It's something we all struggle with So perfect guys, I hope you guys are having a wonderful friday morning. Please have a very safe safe weekend Um lots of love to all you guys hold the line. Remember you are special You are loved and you are sovereign. All right guys. I'll talk to you guys soon. Bye