 You're welcome back to the Breakfast on Plus TV Africa. Activists Sunday Buhu would have a tough time getting top politicians in the Southwest to back his secessionist agenda. Leaders of the all-progressive Congress in the region have condemned separatists' agitations and pledged their commitment to a united Nigeria. The decision was reached at a meeting of the leaders in Lagos yesterday. Let's now take a listen to Southwest APC governors during that meeting with Ashwa Jubola. We express our strong opposition to separatist agitation and hate speech while urging those indulging in such, to desist, forthwith, we renew our belief in the unity, stability and sustainability of the country. We're now being joined by APC chief chain, Mr. Joe Ibuque. Good morning. Thanks for joining us. Good morning. Thank you for having me. All right. So before we go into the response of the APC Southwest governors to this secessionist agitation, I want us to talk about that secessionist agitation in the first place. We know that Sunday Buhu and his team have been agitating for a separate nation, a Yoruba nation, an Odua nation, and all the names they've been calling it. I want you to make comments on these claims that we've been seeing in recent time and how it's been affecting the Nigerian policy. Okay, you know, I'm a student of the Bible and the Bible says that woe should be tied in a nation whose leaders are kids or whose leaders are babies. Heads cannot be at home and children will put their hands into a raging fire. This is not the time to talk about if we're talking about the greatest country in Africa, the greatest economy in Africa, the greatest population, the most dedicated country in Africa. We are witnesses to what happens in some other nation's tax. God's separation, you know, we're talking about Sudan, South Sudan, Northern Yemen, Southern Yemen, some countries in Russia, you know, Crimea, some other countries, you know, and you will notice that it's not a bed of roses. And for us in Nigeria, a lot is at stake, a lot is at stake, and we need to come together to build this country. And that's why leaders of South Korea should be encouraged for what they did yesterday. That is what is expected of others. That does most rise up when children are playing with fire because they don't understand that there's so many things that are at stake. A lot of bridges have been built, we have intertwined together and are moving together for years. And it's not good for us. The world is looking for big markets, potential markets, and we are talking of small, small divisions, small, small states, small, small countries, you know, it will all happen. Judging from the histories of other nations that went that way, I don't think we need to play with this country, you know. So that's why we need to speak and talk to young people. That's not the way to go. It's not going to be the end of the problem. Southern Sudan was leaving Sudan, they thought they had problems, but look at Southern Sudan today, the seriousness, and we're learning from all those countries in Malaya. You know, I can learn them all over the world, so we have to learn a lesson from those countries. Alright, so Mr. Ibokwe, is this saying? It helped, yeah. Because what you've said is, you know, now is not the time, that's how you started this. So, but you know, what's your response to the reasons for the calls for secession? You know, they're saying that the structure is not working for the Yoruba's, and that's the reason they want secession. They've also named some of the ails that are currently bedeviling Nigeria, security-wise and others. So do you think that those concerns are legitimate, and they have genuine reasons for making those concerns, but calling for secession is just not the answer. Is that what your point is? So, if you, those who think that once you get a separate measure, and all your problems you just vanish overnight, it's not. That's why I cited countries like, you know, Somalia, you know, Northern Southern Yemen, South Sudan, the problem will not vanish into the pink air. It's all about dialogue, and Nigerians are talking. We are better united. Even if you speak the same language, it does not guarantee justice, equity and fair play. We are better united. Nigeria forms a big market, it's a big market for us to play, you know. That's what we are from South, is that's what we are saying. That's what we are telling our people. We are better united. Nigeria forms a potential market for every, the big Nigeria is better for every one of us. But I agree with you that there must be issues of justice, equity and fair play. You know, no nation has ever solved a problem. In Canada today, there's still battling with issues of fair play. There's still battling with issues. We need elders to pick up so that we will have some structural changes that will make things easy for people. You don't have a 100% nation where everything is going on fine, you know. There must be infractions. There must be issues. It is the ability to resolve these issues when they come that makes a nation. It shows that the nation has leaders when you have these kind of leaders, elders who come out and speak. That's what we are expecting from other zones in the country. Let the elders speak the truth and then we will move. Okay, so Mr. Ibuque. Whatever happens, we will also go back to the conference table and resolve it. Okay, so in a situation where, because we know that these groups of people, they protested in Akure on Saturday. And in a situation where they make statements like the Euro bars are tired of being slaves to the North, they also go on to say that the Euro bar nation has all the resources to be independent. I cannot hear. All right. Mr. Ibuque, can you hear me now? All right. We'll apologize for that. And we will definitely continue the conversation regarding calls for cessation in Nigeria and the response of Southwest governors. Now moving on to our final conversation on the breakfast. What would you do? If your weigh-in date clashes with your examination, would you sit for the exam or go for your wedding? Well, a lady in Abuja did both. The 300 level students of the University of Abuja didn't know that her CSC 3-1 exam will clash with her wedding as the university kept adjusting her exam timetable. Here's a video of the bride sitting in the exam hall waiting to take that paper and then rush off to her wedding. All right. We'll apologize. We can't bring you that video right now. But sadly, it's been making the rounds on social media in the past, you know, over the weekend. You know, the lady seated in the exam hall wearing her wedding gown. And I have lots of questions, even though people were saying, oh, that's so romantic, that's so sweet. And yeah, if you watch the video, you see people saying, oh, oh. But I'm like, why did you have to wear your wedding gown to the exam hall? I mean, you could definitely change. Well, she probably may have time to change. Okay. I don't know, I'm just not, I'm not trying to fake, you know, the fact that I have similar thoughts. You know, there's enough time, you know, in the drive between, except the wedding and the, except the wedding was held in the, you know, on campus, was held, you know, next to the exam hall. There's enough time for you to change, you know, into something else, you know, you're waiting for the wedding, there's enough time, you know, somehow, because I'm sure you knew, they didn't call you, you know, at church and say, oh, the exam is by 12 o'clock. And you're like, oh, pastor, please, I have to go. Honey, please, we're going to go to the exam first. I mean, I'm sure you knew it was that same day. So there should have been other arrangements. But, you know, the thing is, you know, we really don't know, you know, 100 percent, you know, why that had to play out, you know. She, of course, has been able to kill two birds with one stone, I guess, you know, get married at the same time. Oh, no. But how do you deal with that, how do you deal with that pressure? Because, first of all, in my opinion, she's going to be a distraction to other people in that hall, because people are there to write an exam and you can see all the attention on her with her wedding dress. Why is the groom there? The groom is even standing there, you know, in the next course. What are you, is he writing the same exam? What is he doing there? Trying to make sure that she's writing well and, you know. Oh God, please go home. Sorry, I'm not, I don't know how to ignore these little aspects. I just feel, you know, it's a good moment. We like a bit of drama. So she came to give them drama. Maybe all her mates are told that she wouldn't get married this year. She came to show off, and flaunt on their faces. Yeah, maybe it's those people who are, you know, told that, who will marry this one. Can you see her walking out of the hall? Oh, no. This is really funny. This is really funny. I can't. I can't. I wish you could play the audio, because you can see people doing, oh. Oh, what? Oh, you could have changed after the exam. So is this before or after the wedding? No, this, they went for the exam first. OK, and then? Then, from there, they went for the exam. Then they went for the wedding. I mean, the wedding time can be, can be, can be moved. Exactly. The wedding was meant to be for technical. You can say, oh, please. Exactly. You can move your wedding. You can move the exam. You know? Yeah. You know, so if they knew, if she knew, then, you know, the day before that. They hear that? God, when? God, when? God, when? God, when? God, when? God, when? What? If you knew the exam, you know, what shared with, you know, the, you know, maybe a day before you found that, oh, this exam is going to be, you know, this day, you could make other arrangements. You know, I'm sure that there's somehow, some way, you know, a possibility of making other arrangements. You know, for the wedding, you can change the exam. I'm sure they wanted to make a statement, and they did. So. What statement was that? End of story. To trend on Twitter. To go viral on social media. When I sound like haters. I'm not, of course, I wish her happy married life and all of that, but just, my brain is... Can I ask you a question? Sorry. If you happen to be in the situation, and they kept shifting your wife's exam dates, and the exam isn't important to her, I would definitely like her to write that exam. And she wants to go there, you know, on a wedding gown. Yes. She wants to stunt on her classmates, and look them in the eye, I'm about to get my tape presenter. Who's your boyfriend? Let's hope. And I want to believe that this just couldn't be avoided. It probably wasn't pre-planned. Let's believe that. Let's believe that. But, you know, does the husband really have a say? I don't necessarily think so. I think, you know, you would always be able to do the whatever makes you happy in this moment, you know, support her. If she's, you know, you know, short on time with regards to getting the example and also making the wedding, you know, support her all the way. Yeah. I think we should also be saying kudos to her for managing both major events in one day. Yeah. I was going to do that. That's my question. Good morning anyway. This is how we wrap up the program this morning. Thank you very much for staying with us and kicking off the Monday morning with us. We wish you a beautiful Monday ahead, a great start to the week. If you missed out on any of us, you know where to find us. Yes, it's at Plus TV Africa on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. And have you subscribed yet to our new YouTube channel on Plus TV Africa Live Soil as well. Have a great day. I am Annetta, Felix. And I am Osawa Ghee. Oboa.