 listen it's when you're looking at 30 years okay when you're looking at 30 years in the cold light of day and you you you're gonna want to deal you're gonna want to deal there are people that have been on your show that have deals you know they're what with them people who's been on this podcast yes you know that our informants I wouldn't say I couldn't say their informants because there is an informant handling group statues but I can say that I've sat across from notable people and yeah I mean so yeah yeah there are people that I've sat across that how you've had on your show that have spoken singing singing when you asked me about were those people informants or I don't know if they're informants but what I know is from interviews I've conducted those people talk they all talk regardless of what you now people can say they talk in you know it's that's what an interview is I'll go no comment no comment no comment they go to court they go to court and then you look on their sheet you start thinking well we put that whole case together we did everything we could we sealed that went to court three years