 Our next caller is Jeff from Idaho. Hey, what's up, Jeff? How can we help you? Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. I really appreciate what you guys do. So I'm just going to give you a little quick background, and that'll help me set up my question. So about a year ago, I really started to get into lifting for the first time. And by that, I mean, I had lifted a lot before, but I had never actually progressively overloaded my lift. So I started doing that, as well as tracking macros and calories. And between about this time last year and the end of the year, I lost about 35 pounds. Wow. I went from around 200 to 165. And so at the start of the year, I still kind of had a skinny fat physique. So I thought I would just keep progressively overloading and making sure I was hitting my calorie and macrogos and just recomp as much as I could. And this worked really well for about five or six months. My physique was progressing. That's got heavier. And my metabolism got faster. But these last two or three months, everything just really seems to have kind of stalled out. And so my question is, is this my body telling me that I need to go on a little bit of a bulk in order to put on more muscle, even though I'm not necessarily as lean as I'd like to be? Or do you think this might be an issue with my programming, and if I'd benefit following something like maps anabolic? Probably both. Yeah, I was just going to say both. I would say go on a little bit of a bulk and change your workout program. This whole time, have you been following a similar workout? Yeah, it's been a four day upper lower split mostly. Oh, yeah, dude. Just for sure. Switching up your programming, adding a couple extra calories in there, and watch you break through that plateau. Oh yeah, I would go maps anabolic, do three foundational workouts a week, do three trigger sessions on your off days. That's it. Follow that, and then watch what happens to your body. And bump your calories. That's it. Bump your calories. You don't have to bump them that much. Two, three hundred calories. Yeah, I bet you if you just changed this programming, his body would just start to break through. Yeah, but why not do both, though? You know, let's have some fun with it. Your body's going to respond to the new adaptation, give it some extra calories, so you really pack on some muscle, which is only going to speed up your metabolism more. Even though you're not at your ideal body fat percentage, this is not going to hurt you. Cool, sounds good. I guess you guys have any tips? Because I guess since I went through that cycle of losing the weight, sometimes it kind of freaks me out of seeing it go back up. I don't know if you have any tips for just dealing with that mental hurdle. Get rid of the scale. Yeah, don't stop weighing yourself and judge your progress by your strength and your performance in the gym. Strength and performance. That's your focus now. That's it. Here's another tip. How long have you been listening to us, by the way? A couple months or so. Do you consider us to be experts? I would, yeah. Beautiful. Just listen to us. That's all. Just do what we told you. Just do what we tell you. Very simple. Just listen. I'll ask you for trust right now. I won't have to ask you again. I promise you. Just do what we tell you. Don't weigh yourself. Give yourself a few months. It's Maps Anabolic's about three months long. At the end of that three months, you're going to be like, oh, yeah, that's it. I'm not going to ever doubt what these guys say ever again. Yeah, and I think you're in a great place right now. You've changed your physique quite a bit on your own already, kind of doing the same thing. And just simply following a program that's a lot different, which if you've been running a body part split type of a routine, going to Anabolic full body is going to shock your system. You do that with a little bit of a mini bulk, since you've probably been at maintenance or lower calorie to lose weight, I think that you're going to see a great response. And I think you should notice in the first couple of weeks. Oh, totally. Yeah. Awesome. Where are you at, in Idaho? OK. Suburb of Boise. Boise? Suburb. Oh, suburb of Boise. Like Meridian? And it's a suburb of Boise. Like Meridian or Eagle? Or like we're familiar with that? A little west of Meridian. OK. Yeah, good deal. We have friends up there. All right, thanks for calling in, Jeff. Yeah, thanks for having me. No problem. That change in workout programming makes a big difference. Yeah. Don't realize that. I've been doing the same workout for five months. My body stopped responding. It's like, change it. He's going to see great results. Oh, huge. It's going to be like night and day, especially because he's already been doing what he's been doing for five or six months. It was working. It stopped. Well, that's the biggest hurdle is the mental part. Like a lot of people just are a little bit leery of changing things up because of the unknown. And so, yeah. So a lot of times as trainers, we just have to reinforce that for them. I also wanted him to do the calorie increase, too, because I bet you money. If he lost all that weight, I guarantee you he's probably closer to running under his caloric maintenance or right around maintenance, right? So he's probably been, hasn't been in a surplus in a very long time. So just feeding his body more while also switching a program, I think he's going to switch strength gains. I think his metabolism is going to fire right up. I think you'll see his body change right away. Like, guy's in a great position. It's the perfect time to do that. And it really will be about trusting the process and not worrying about a couple of pounds going on the scale because he's probably going to be building muscle quick. Agreed.