 And welcome to another edition of frightfully forgotten's trash or treasure and as you can see today I'm the treasure. I'm the trash before we get started. What are we drinking today? We are drinking the D new pass. It is an old ale today in celebration of our season six Our first trash or treasure of the season will be Friday the 13th part six Jason lives It's really kind of beloved amongst the fans. That's right But it's also very flawed to written and directed by Tom McLaughlin Tom Matthews is in this and he was in return of the living dead parts one and two Jason lives starts off with Tommy Jarvis and his buddy Hawes Alan Hawes If you remember from the previous two movies Tommy Jarvis has had battles with Jason twice before and it has affected his mental health so much so here's in a mental institution decided to go make sure Jason is actually dead which is a very stupid thing to do because he's in the ground he's not bugging anyone exactly and for some reason they brought his mask along like why and of course he's got like a nice tombstone that just says Jason Voorhees you think they would have spent that much money on this mass murder tombstone like those things are expensive remade them and be done with it dig up the grave and they open the casket and Jason's there but he's dead so good okay you've done your job you verified he's dead but no they have to take it one step further he needs to get a bit of revenge takes his big metal pole sticks it in Jason to stick it to him one last time it's a stormy night and lightning hits the pole it twice bringing Jason back to life not only doesn't bring him back to life but it rejuvenates his flesh and everything now he's no longer a skeleton he's like a muscular and strong first order of business while you gotta kill somebody right so he kills off Tommy's buddy Alan Jason should be eternally grateful yeah you guys brought me back to life thanks yeah thank you i'll leave you two alone and go kill somebody else Tommy gets in his truck and basically freaks out and drives to the closest town to go notify the sheriff well of course this sounds like a bunch of damn baloney the sheriff doesn't believe him but his daughter kind of takes a bit of a liking to Tommy why i don't know he sounds like a fucking maniac in the meantime camp crystal lake has been renamed forest green and of course they're reopening and there's a bunch of very young children that are now attending and of course there's a bunch of teen counselors get introduced to the grave digger martin oh shit shit damn they didn't even put the slimy sucker back in right it is all drinking out of that flask puts the dirt back onto the grave so it looks like nothing's really happened Tommy Jarvis leads the cops back to the graveyard to see that the grave is open and that Jason is gone but it's covered back over so they just basically tell him to get the fuck out of town don't come back Jason now is starting his return back to camp crystal lake or forest green he's all strong and tight yeah there's close ups of his ass he's all tight and muscular and everything and he gets like a pretty snazzy tool belt with a bunch of chisels and he gets those snazzy gloves and he fucking just wreaks havoc on his journey Tommy gets thrown back in jail the cops figure that it's actually Tommy doing the killing to convince everybody but his daughter's got the hots for him and she ends up breaking him out Tommy's got a plan to put Jason down for good if you want to watch the rest of the movie what happens continue watching Friday the 13th part six is a trash or treasure let's start off by listing the treasure of this movie first golden nugget really is that well Jason is back yeah if you're a member from part five it actually wasn't Jason doing the killing in that movie it was an imposter because everyone was so pissed off about it not being Jason in the last movie they brought him back for this one in a big way this movie is a clear crossroads in the whole series it's sort of fresh it's new as a horror comedy it does work and that's the movie they set out to make the director said i'm gonna make a horror comedy even though some of the previous movies did have a bit of comedy in it you know like part three is pretty campy and cheesy this one is the first one that's blatantly trying to be funny i think it's not funny because it's bad it's funny because it's supposed to be we kind of tore down dream warriors a bit last year the franchise is at that crossroads where it goes from horror to comedy but in this case it was intentional i'm not sure that dream warriors was intentionally trying to be campy and make freddy a joke in this case Jason is still not a joke he is serious it's every it's the situation everything else around him is the silliness another treasure about this movie is the kill count it's huge in this huge at 18 kills it kills three at once just with the one with the one swipe yeah like holy another great kill which is again leans towards the more ridiculous side when he takes that woman's face and puts it through that steel wall and you can see the one counselor that he kills too y'all twists her head all the way around and then the head is all gone he's really obsessed with taking people's heads off in this movie crushes that cops head and one of the best kills one of my favorite kills of the whole series at the sheriff where he just folds them right in half he can't even be bothered to actually kill him in a cool way he just pushes them down in half the chisel in the cops head to from across the lake he's got a good aim for somebody who's just been alive for a couple of hours here one of the treasure parts about this movie too is the pacing you're never bored even though the movie can get silly or whatever you're never ever bored and it it moves along quickly the atmosphere and one of the the the lighting and the fog is great in this movie and you can really tell that the director was inspired by the old universal horror movies like like the wolf man right all the shots in the forest with the fog and the trees and the whole frankenstein thing the lightning reviving the dead corpse like he's said in interviews yeah i was going for trying to make jason vorges like a universal monster right and it worked it's successful it worked very well i like how tommy basically fucks everything up yeah he doesn't get anything right no and all he wanted to do was make sure that he was dead he ends up bringing him back forever basically yeah he turned him into an undying zombie who's super strong and can't be killed another piece of treasure about this movie is the alice cooper song the man behind the mask right back final showdown between tommy and jason on the water yeah it's it's a pretty cool setting right yeah and then they got like he puts the gas in the water around the boat and like all these flames it's pretty epic and you also don't know where jason's gonna pop up you're actually on the edge of your seat watching it which brings us to the trash about this movie what is bad about friday the 13th part six jason lives the fact that there's no plot really no substance to the movie not really besides tommy wanting to make sure jason's dead there's no underlying subplot to keep you interested pretty one-dimensional like you know even the characters are one-dimensional they're forgettable you don't really care too much about them caretaker martin is always stuck out yeah but besides him even tommy as much as i love tom matthew's in return of living dead i don't really like him so much as tommy because he doesn't play tommy the way tommy is supposed to be like in the last movie he was all quiet and traumatized but badass in this he's just like a loud mouth idiot the acting isn't all that great either right you gotta listen to me it could have been a treasure if they would have elaborated on it a bit more was how tommy tries to kill jason and bring him back to his original resting place suddenly you see all these occult books on the in the car what did you learn from these occult books and how did you get all these occult books at like super late at night in the small town happens to have a whole occult section in the bookstore and i know how to kill jason now yeah take him back to his original resting well how do you know all this and what does that have to do with the occult the treasure was the fact that they took it in a different direction right comedy the trash aspect of it is that it's too silly it throws the guy into the tree and leaves a happy face that is a little too much that's verging on stupid exactly and not funny stuff that martin says is silly it is funny funny he's thinking about fart head you're trying to go for a horror movie here come on yeah the whole typical woman having sex in the rv and it like listening to the music she's like who's like rocking out like oh yeah you're the best you're the best like who does that like i don't know only in the 80s only in the 80s now they're not getting anything from the guy yeah that's just from the music that's right that's what's doing it one part that's really too silly is the whole paintball scene yeah with the music it's got that goofy music like and they're all that shitty army music yeah that shitty army music and they're all serious like come on like it it could have did without that entire scene also kind of need how the director brought in all these really small children for the reason he said to up the stakes yeah well there's never been really small kids at the camp and jason's coming but it doesn't really up the stakes as much as it should because you never really buy into the fact that jason might kill one of them you never really believe it they don't get you to that point like oh jason's gonna kill a child he has every opportunity to do it and he doesn't do it which leads you to think that jason has a bit of a conscience and he doesn't want to kill a kid which takes away from jason's scariness exactly jason is not really scary so much there's a one scene you know when he's looking over the kid where he's like oh that's creepy but other than that he's just some muscular guy walking around like he's not scary like they show him too much you know or it's like you're desensitized horror comedy is a balancing act right to balance the horror in the comedy this one almost gets it perfect but i think the silliness kind of weighs the scales a little bit too much yeah where it gets a little too silly it's not quite a perfect horror comedy almost perfect yeah it's almost got it right but there's a couple of scenes we tip it over the edge exactly jason lives trash or treasure it is treasure enough to say treasure too and it's funny because my opinion on this kind of changes from time to time yeah you know when we're kids this is always one of my favorites because it's so fun and stupid and silly but then over time as you start to appreciate like ones like part two morris horror movies you start to not like this one so much because it's too silly from this movie you see where the the series goes yeah and then it's like really silly yeah and it's like oh man i really wish that they hadn't done this but as a standalone horror comedy it's treasure yeah it's always an enjoyable watch exactly even though it's stupid and silly it's enjoyable and it's probably the last really good friend of 13th movie pretty much and it has john carpenter in it so hey you can't go wrong not only they have a john carpenter lookalike the town town is named carpenter so let us know what you think about jason lives trash or treasure i'm sure most people say it's treasure but it definitely has trash elements and until next time keep drinking gotta listen to me