 Hello How are you? I'm good. How are you great? I'm doing fine. I'm sporting some new wiki wear. I've got a Nice the design is an enjoy genealogy. Yeah, enjoy genealogy. Where's it at this side here? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I could be like the blue arrow I Mean the hoodie really is good elf wear. Yes. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, very appropriate Yeah, but it's not too heavy. So I shouldn't hopefully I won't be sweating by the end of the thing But I could have worn my red t-shirt like you've got my But I missed the memo last week, so I'm making up for it. There we go There we go. Well, I thought I would I would don something slightly different and then in two hours when we have our Fifth day of alfamus, then I will switch to the my red wear my elf wear So you'll notice there's only two of us this morning She's sick she's not doing well, so hopefully she'll be better soon and then we'll have her back So she can join us next week when the roundup is sort of preempted by the Secret Santa final reveal Yeah, yeah, it'll be fun. So we've had a great a great first week of the whole challenge We've had a number of wishes have been solved and we are profiling each of those in the 12 days of alfamus Which has been happening little videos that happen So today's it will have happens at 12 noon many of them are at 12 noon but some of them we've had to Move around to different times because we're inviting the wiki tree elves who've solved to come and explain their You know and share it with the wishy and in some cases the wishy have been has been able to join us as well So it's very we've got two elves coming up sharing at 12 noon and So it'll be fun. I've loved on the ones I've watched I've loved the opportunity to get a deeper look at what went into solving the wish Yeah, and that's a huge thanks to our first elf Margaret Margaret told Meredith Was the first elf for the first wish that we chose and she says well I kind of like to explain the methodology and how I went about doing it And I should say biscuits because she's from Appalachia And And so she said and she did that and it was wonderful I was very fascinating and I wish I did I was fast enough to click on this You know to follow what she had done and show the different sites that she was mentioning one up But you should watch it, but she explained it very well And we sort of took that theme and ran with it. And so now every elf is sort of explaining how they got there and very neat But so Anyways welcome. There's lots of people who got 25 people in the chat. Oh, yeah Thanks for hanging out with us Mohavelin D. Are you Mary Sleppy? Brian, how are you doing Susie Carter Hillary from Wales Judy Lisa? Lisa's one of the elves you'll see later a Good time zone and Victor. How are you doing there a little frosty he says Vicki from Chile Azure good to see you Marie is here yolk is here and Who else Denise either Denise? Murray is here and I think Yes, Judy isn't Yeah, we actually have lots lots of elves are here. That's good So and I hope all you elves come and join us again with our elf cast at 12 noon Give the video a like as your says and a huge welcome to all of you who are watching this after the fact We're glad that you're here as well So so we're switching things up a little bit because we're missing Meg's and we kind of have to get caught up On what she would normally do I'm going to cover everything Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna start with photo of the week and tip of the week which have become one for today Because there were no new photos of the week for our last week of the theme favorite photo And but I happened to get together with some distant cousins two days ago My second cousin who I met for the first time and I had I had already known his daughter And so we kept saying oh, you know, you've got to meet my parents and you know so we finally made it happen and they are on my mother's side through a sibling of my grandmother and they came with photos and So I'm gonna share my screen Usually for me. It's like whatever is my My newest photo is my favorite Isn't that gorgeous it is It's so delicate and I like the sepia tone This is the wife of my great-uncle and it actually came in a Picture frame with the two of them. It was a double frame small with her on one side and him on the other so if I go to His profile There I had now have a much nice close-up of of him and And I told you I went down a rabbit hole this morning So big and that was trying to identify this Insignia on his soldier Yeah, I knew that he had Served during World War one in the British Royal artillery in France and so, you know, it's a lot of Google searching and It was confusing about this the bit at the bottom was it was curved Yeah, it was and it was an abbreviation for Gloucestershire But it was how Glock, you know, it was Glock or some yeah, there was no you that you know because I had to make it fit Right, so that was really exciting, but you could zoom in close enough and read that Yeah, well, not very well. I would took a lot of back Between squinting at the picture as much as I could blow it up and then and then looking at things online So then I was looking at his profile and what I had done on it and he's the one who's related the He's my he's my great-uncle And I had a research note. I'm not gonna show you yet. I had a research note that said Baptism have not yet found records of his baptism Well, guess what my second cousin had Oh Yes, yes way the baptism over Yes, so this was a little card. I'm gonna blow it up so you can see it Is it big enough? Yeah Yeah, isn't it? I mean first of all beautiful. Yes second of all, I mean, you know, the dates are so helpful baptize January 10th in At St. Saviour's Church, which was where he was later married in Cardiff And then he was confirmed Monday and I had to it's a good thing they put the Monday because then yeah, I checked that the 14th Was a Monday Brisbane parish and yes, they had moved to Bristol by that point and then his first communion was a few weeks later on Easter Sunday Oh, no, that's interesting. Yeah confirmed before come first communion, right, right? They were Episcopalian Okay, I You know, that's I can't say anything more than yeah, and then there was a There was a second card That repeated the same information, but mm-hmm very different looking mm-hmm Yeah, so I was able to take away my research note because Because now I know so my tip usually I know my tips have to do with Navigating wiki tree, but I think today is a more General genealogy tip of don't do your genealogy in a vacuum You know, I feel like I'm kind of preaching to the choir Yeah, but if there's anyone out there watching who just thinks they can go it alone and you know only Trace your direct lines and you know not look at siblings and and aunts and uncles I mean sometimes those other lines have treasures like this I mean so fascinating on some of the little photo cards that they showed me on the back It was a postcard Yeah, so that you could you know, you could mail it. That's wild. Here I am. Yeah So Hilary has mentioned that she's found she has something similar for her grandfather Right, right. Yes, because we've got the most connection going there. Hilary. Nice. Yeah, that's right Right and D's also said something Has been great grandfather's baptism originally saved by my mother-in-law Beautiful doctor. They're a catholic interesting. Yeah Very good and then lots of people are saying great find and Yeah, that's very cool. Yeah, so exciting. Yeah excellent so If we go on to the profiles of the week 2023 who are you most closely connected to so You'll see like all over the internet. There are you know end of year retrospectives and And and whatnot and of course one of the things we always and genealogy are not the only ones but we of course are Very prone to this topic is talking about who've we lost this year? And so that's the theme for this the profiles this week starting with sandra day Who was really a distant cousin of mine as well And She passed away just the beginning of december this year Notable because she was the first female supreme court justice in the united states of america And she was born on the 26th of march 1930 in el paso texas passed away beginning of december In phoenix, arizona Daughter harry elford day a rancher and ate a may will key Pointed to the u.s supreme court by president ronald reagan and the first woman to ever hold that position She grew up on her family's lazy b ranch near the gila river straddling the border between arizona and new mexico Oh interesting But didn't say she was born in texas She says she was born in el paso texas interesting so One wonders uh, how close The interest at the border of arizona and new mexico Does that also border texas under the three of those states come to close together? Um, betsey is quickly reading the questions of the week. So Uh, maybe someone in the chat chat can inform me on that. I know they're all around the same area What's the question? It's a very good question. So she um, she was born in texas el paso texas He grew up on her family's ranch, which is near it was straddled the border between arizona and new mexico So does texas border those two states? um Yes, yes Um, but el paso is very close to the mexican border That's all yet. Yeah I says that i'll pass it right across the border Right, I mean it's all all roughly the same, but I don't I don't think i mean texas is massive Oh, yeah, I know texas. Yeah, so that's what I was thinking if she's born in texas How would she up at the border between arizona and new mexico, right? The piece I didn't I was missing is where el paso was in relation to the rest of texas. So that's right, right? Yeah Yes, and chris. You're right. It's another episode That's right. Yes So what I mean, you've got 50 states. I mean two are easy. There's alaska and there's hawaii floating out there. Yeah, but the rest are all You've only got 10 provinces to learn if you're trying to you know, learn our our geography Anyways the same landmass well not not quite but still I mean canada's Oh, yeah Significantly sizable. Yes. It's it's larger an area. I think Oh, okay. Yeah, your provinces are way bigger than our states. Yeah. Yeah, that's right Anyways, uh, justice sander day o'connor Uh, you know great woman and uh You know first female supreme court justice that's very impressive Moving on we have jane mallory berkin obe Born in england on the 14th of december So she could have she could have been one of our december profiles in maryland born in england and then passed away on the 16th of july this year at the age of 76 in paris france She was an english singer and an actress And she married john pender gasbury in 1965 her first film was in 66 a minor role in a film called blow up Directed by michelangelo anton anton yoni and then she started in a french film called slogan with Serge gansburg And from there until 80 she had a personal working relationship with gainsburg They had three albums of songs and then she lived mainly in france And she had other performances in different films died her home in paris on the 16th of july We have a few french notables who are part of this so that's quite neat Then we have villum flip toby From ha holland He was born on the 17th of may 1939 in sus gravenhog zu de holland And then he passed away in the 27th of march again in sugraven haga zu de holland netherland uh His biography is very short in english Um He was born in 1939 son of epilita philip de be and magdalena cerebe does say for he passed away in 2023 But i had looked up his wiki tree or not wiki tree his wikipedia entry and he was part of a comedy duel Let me just show that up Part of the comedy team The van kooten and debi debi van kooten debi So he had his partner is kiece van kooten and the two of them where Did a the dutch comedy duo writer and singer and so very Very famous there. He died of parkinson's disease sadly this march and There's a there's a nice picture of him right there From his profile And then we have willy christine king ferris Who is The eldest sibling of martin luther king jr So her parents are martin luther king senior And his wife alberta christine williams And willy christine king ferris is the the eldest sibling of martin luther king jr She taught at spellman college and is the author of several books as well as a public speaker So she's there and there she is right there so just just as her As her as her brother was of course a famous and very influential person She herself has also been very influential in in the teaching and working at spellman college She was a faithful sister a passionate faculty member and beloved community advocate She taught for 56 years At spellman college 56 years. That's a long time to be teaching anywhere or teaching at all But in one place and so she retired as a tenured professor in 2014 She was also of course an activist and an author and amassed many accolades during her lifetime Including the spellman's founders day true blue award in 2018 Um and it goes on talks about many other awards that she got teachers choice awards humane letters Um from her sorority the part of a strong family legacy at spellman So and that little brief there was written by spellman college, of course Anyways, uh her niece was reverend bernice king and she says i love you and we'll miss you and christine Isn't that sweet? So there we go Um just louise louis fontaine Was born in marrakesh in morocco. So this is very interesting on the uh 18th of august in 1933 He was a moroccan born french professional footballer who played as a striker He scored the most goals ever in a single edition of the fifa world cup with 13 goals in six matches in the 1958 fifa world cup tournament So a soccer great and passed away on the 20th of february 2023 age 49 in toulouse france So we're we don't often get people born in marrakesh in our profiles of the week. So that's kind of cool There he is just fontaine Moving on we have marie france was jillo Now this this person is very notable and She she also liked she also had a dalliance with notable. She was definitely attracted to notable people herself So she's a french painter a critic and an author But she was also the companion of painter paulo piccasso And between 43 and 53 and the mother of two of his children Claude and paloma paloma were both her children Uh with uh piccasso. She wrote a book life with piccasso several years after their separation Then she got married to the glass maker luke simon From and they were married from uh 55 to 62 and then in 1970 She married jonas sulk the person who invented the polio vaccine like That's amazing like who'd have thought going from paulo piccasso famous artist to famous scientist jonas sulk Like isn't that wild that's Really interesting So anyways, yeah So that's just amazing. Um anyways, I read it all in English. I don't need to read again in french, but I could but anyways There we go. And there she is so Very interesting woman and uh kudos She Chris says she had a type her type was notable So but you mean everyone is notable in their own way. It's just the world doesn't always realize your notability. So You could say that Which is true Now next one next notable who passed away. We've already talked about uh john berry humphreys, but uh, he was notable uh born in victoria australia q And passed away on the 22nd of april Earlier this year at the age eight and nine in darlinghurst new south wales australia Of course most famous for his character dame edna average And there's dame edna right there. Hello possums And uh, we talked a lot about him when he was the profile of the week A while back but uh, he uh Was well loved and uh, was you know quite famous for All of his work that he had done And again, this is a really well done profile with lots of links and everything Um voice were act. I don't know if I mentioned we mentioned before the voice work. He did So the animated film the hobbit in unexpected journey from 2012 I didn't remember him being in that or in a a new, uh, animated movie about os So that's I don't think we mentioned that the last time uh so Very interesting character and much beloved by many people Heinz elford kissinger Also known as henry kissinger Uh born in bavaria in fort bavaria in germany in 1923 Uh, his family left, uh, germany before the second world war because of um persecution of the jews But he lived he just passed away at the end of november on the 29th of november at the age of 100 That's great. Uh in kent Uh, not kent england, uh in litchfield county connecticut united states Of course, he's part of the united states history and has jewish roots. Yeah, so they left in 30 1938 they fled germany to avoid nazi persecution Um Interesting note here his family was german jewish And his great great grandfather mayer lob adopted kissinger as his last name sir name in 1817 Taking it from the bavarian spa town of bad kissinger Um, so that's interesting. Um, because I think I read somewhere or heard somewhere that, um sir names, uh that, um jewish families didn't necessarily have surnames up until relatively recently genealogically speaking So this might be one of those times but someone can correct me in the chat if i'm wrong about that He became a u.s citizen in 1943 graduated summa cum laude from harvard and of course played a prominent role in the united states foreign policy Assistant to the president for national security affairs and also secretary of state Which of course is the role that many of us will remember him as having from 73 to 77 I didn't realize that he was part of the negotiating team for the ceasefire in vietnam And received his 73 1973 nobel peace prize for that That's interesting Henry Kissinger end of november Uh, robert mcgummery knight Uh bob the general knight basketball coach Born the 25th of october 1940 in missilian stark county, ohio And then at the age of 83 on the first day of november all saint's day 2023 He passed away in blumentin in perry tanche of minn row indiana So here he is. He's born in hawai nice stickers there who's your Okay, and also a military veteran serving the united states army and of course the notable college basketball coach nicknamed the general When 902 nc double a division one men's basketball games and that was a record at the time of his retirement Currently he ranks fifth all-time. I think we may have already profiled him as well earlier this year um all-time coaching record 902 to 371 so Very impressive His father worked for a railroad his mother was a school teacher And he began playing organized basketball when he was in high school and then of course continued on To play in college and then eventually became coach Look at that nice picture of him And his mother look at that And then of course The typical coach's picture there There we go moving on We have jesse lustor mc reynolds Jesse Lester mc reynolds born on the 9th of july 1929 In carfax wise county virginia And he passed away the 23rd of june 2023 at age of 93 in gallanton summoner county in tennessee So he was an american bluegrass musician best known for his innovative cross-picking and split string styles of mandolin playing So we have a musician here excellent He and his brother were a famous duo and they played together He they followed in the footsteps of their grandfather charlie mc reynolds Who was one of the first artists to record for rca in bristol virginia? charlie was a fiddler recorded as a member of the bull mountain moonshiners at the fame 1927 bristol sessions That's a great name for a group the bull mountain moonshiners They sound like a fun group. Oh, yeah, okay I could be wrong, but I think this profile has appalachia written all over it Oh, john tiner's already beaten me to it Oh so His father was a coal miner clode Who was a coal miner was also a fiddler and his mother played guitar banjo and harmonica taught them to sing gospel songs and harmony I mean it was destined to be a musician. I mean, how could he do anything else? But he didn't he didn't actually start playing the mandolin, which is one of his was one of his primary Instruments until 14, but sadly because he got two legs broken in a car accident Oh, no, but I mean that'll keep you stationary for a bit Yeah, so learning and learning an instrument is a good way to Distract yourself from that absolutely But it'd be nicer to to learn an instrument because you choose to and not because you're immobilized after an accident like that Right. It's so interesting though. How sometimes you have a life event That just makes you go down one fork and it's Influences the rest of your life. Yeah, and in his case fortunately a good way Yes, yeah, he had this the musical talent that might not have been developed If you know other choices of activity, that's right. Yeah, that's right So in 52 He and his brother debuted on capital records their first major they switched to a number of different labels Landed at columbia in the end and then they had their first single the flame of love I'm not familiar with any of their music. I was going to if I had more time this morning. I was going to search some of that out But a lot there's a list of their hits there so we could look those up cotton mailman diesel on my tail paradise And are you missing me? Their name their band was called the virginia trio and then there was the virginia boys That's his brother passed away before him. Look at these Picture of him and his brother Yeah, you could see the resemblance. Yeah Um Both he and his brother battled cancer into 2002 in the same year His fight was successful, but his brothers was not so that's sad And when his brother passed away that uh ended their ended their duet their duo Act which had lasted 55 years together as a duo Amazing Anyways, he still kept playing And did other things Even ventured into rock music For the doors It's not wild That's a switch around switch up. That's a bit of a switch the doors album the soft grade I'm not um A listener of the doors, so I'm not familiar with that. So but I have to give that a little listen Anyways, and apparently he's a fourth cousin to loretta lin and crystal gale so Me hey, um, greg. I looked up our closest connections. Oh, yes, and you have a you have a Three-way tie for your So gordon pincent the excellent Gio Yeah, and sander day o'connor are 22 degrees each of them. Really? Yeah Wow So, uh, I'm happy when gordon is of course are in are canadian here in the um In the roundup François giro being french that doesn't smart, but sander day o'connor. That's interesting. She's my closest at 18 Wow. Yeah Oh look at someone else someone knows the doors album All right jen All right jen and do you do you hear any mandolin in that do do you recognize the song that he was playing? Is my question wow Oh, and vicki also says that's a great album. Hmm. Okay. Well, we might have to go listen to that I'm not a doors connoisseur either. So no, no So we have canadian gordon edward pincent companion of the order of canada Born on the 12th of july 1930 In grand falls newfoundland passed away at the age of 92 on the 25th of february this year passed in toronto So as he's an award-winning canadian actor director writer Son of steven pincent influence cooper We made an officer of the order of canada and then was promoted to companion of canada in the order and was inducted in our canadian hall walk of fame 2007 he published a memoir by the way and a second memoir called next Interesting titles for memoirs and then he passed away now. That's a very short profile, but he is He's a great actor He's done lots of neat lots of stuff and I mean, some of them are very canadian Uh, so i'm not sure if you guys would be familiar with a lot of them, but let me just whip over to his wikipedia page And see if Uh, so he was part of the have you ever heard of the red green show? No, okay. Well It's a very canadian show. Yeah, no, he was part of that. Um, there's a photo of it So red green is this guy in the middle and he's just sort of uh He's a do it do it yourself for guy, you know duct tape is his favorite weapon in you can use for all things and uh anyways They go to possum lodge and they talk about things and whatnot. Anyways, it's fun. Uh He's also was also the voice of babar the elephant Oh That was my favorite child. I haven't seen the cartoon, but I had the books. Yeah They were my favorite childhood stories. Yeah from 89 to 2015. He was the voice of babar the elephant so um But he did uh, so in one movie he did a movie called away from her Um, she's with a livi livi du caucus really well done movie and there's another one. Um And the book was fantastic. Let's see. Where is it here? The shipping news The book is incredible and the movie is quite good too. It's got I think it has kevin spacey julianne more judy dinge Anyways, that's I would recommend that one as well so Uh, anyways, he was a great canadian actor um And I'm quite like that so Then our final profile of the week is of course the one that'll be the most Interesting to pronounce toyota. Shoei chiru um was born in Nagoya shi in h. E. Ken in on the 17th of february 1925 the eldest son of toyota chiru the founder of the toro motor company and ida hatako and his grandfather toyota sakatsuki chi Founded the toyota automatic loom works. So the toyota Basically the toyota car company And he was He received so Our profile person Shoei chiru After his father died he became he was employed by toyota motor as the director of the inspection department So he starts off small. He eventually becomes manning director managing director and executive vice president and then Us Talks about how the toyota corolla was um imported in 68. I guess that was under part of his Wing became president in 90 in 81 And then uh, he served as the chairman Uh to 98 and then when he stepped down as chairman, he became the honorary chairman from 99 until until his death He died from heart failure on oh he died from heart failure on valentine's day Oh, oh dear. That's a sad irony, isn't it? Oh in 2023 But here he is There's a picture on there wins the woodrow wilson award, but that's interesting Um There we go and those are your profiles of the week Wow Very very eclectic of course interest. Yes. Yeah, I mean I do enjoy when we have a theme But yeah cool when they're yeah Well, the interesting thing about the this group was that um, we had done barry before and I think we'd done the coach Um the general um, no, uh, what was the coach's name? Wasn't the was it the general? What was the uh his nickname? Uh, there he was. Yeah, the general he was the general I was trying to think what rank was it that they gave him as a coach yet I think we'd done those two before but the rest of them. I don't think we had covered So that was uh, that was interesting. Huh, I was thinking, you know, like we also had lost gordon lightfoot Of course another great canadian grew up in hometown my my hometown. Um, tina turner um more recently, of course, um Um Matthew Perry like lots of people and the guy the the captain from brooklyn nine nine Brooklyn nine What is brooklyn nine nine the the comedy show? Oh Yes, yeah, um, what's a very young cast? Yeah. Oh goodness. Yeah. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah So anyways, we lost lots of people but it was the really really neat selection Nice mix that were chosen for this week's profile. And of course, we can't go through every all all of them Or else we'd never be done So the question of the week Yeah, well, actually I was going to do we have two ancestors All of right. Yep. That's right. Yep. Um, so let me go. Um Go here And uh, so yoke yoke's in the chat, right? Yes, she is. Yeah. Yes. So this is one of her great-grandmothers Gear tweed, uh, tweed, tweed, tweed. I'm sorry Gear tweed, uh, Lamers, Lamertse Okay, yeah beautiful photograph Nice. Yeah And so this is interesting. Um, yoke writes she celebrated her birthday in new year's eve always with a house full of people Imagine everyone's surprised when we found her birth certificate and she was born on December 30th Not the 31st. Oh Turns out her father thought it convenient to celebrate her birthday And you see you've had the same time Stuck all her life. Oh, that's hilarious. So, um, yeah, there's some unknown I'm on her profile, right? Yep. You are Yeah, yeah, there's some Really lovely photos here. She looked so young in this one. Wow Beautiful and, um Then she worked as a housemaid before she was married And then I I was looking I looked really quickly, but I couldn't see who a verte was So I was oh sister daughter didn't seem to be a sister or daughter Hmm Yeah Love the hats. Yes. Yes, but they definitely are related like look those those faces. Yeah Definitely the eyes Yeah And I think oh, yeah, and this is the last uh last photo photo. Um, there they are on On a family outing. Oh neat So, um And then next I'll go back here to The g2g post. Um, I will be putting out the jan celebrate your ancestors with a connection to january post later today So stay tuned. Look at your anniversary's list for january Um, uh, victor, do I know it's in the chat? Yes. I'm worried about is, uh, Lowry great-grandparents who died 365 days apart So, uh, dora great-grandma dora died on this day 1943 Um at 72 and it's great-grandfather Louis died on christmas eve 1944 at 71 And 1944 was a leap year. Yes. So yeah, so um And then um, we have a photo here This was their Their second marriage. They had for both of them He had been widowed and and she divorced and they they had two two sons Together Um, so I really that's a really That's neat. Yeah, they do look happy Hmm Thanks So, um, okay Those are our ancestors get ready for january And question of the week. Okay Let me go over here. So our question of the week was what improvements Would you like to see on wiki tree in 2024? Um, this is a great question. Um, it elicited just on g2g alone six pages of responses And I I think off the top of my head. There are 20 responses on a page. So that's a lot that's a lot of ideas um, and And that's not to you know Include what was said on facebook or right cram um And I only had a chance to go through the first Uh page of comments, but I I really um encourage everybody to to go and read it Oh, I lost my share screen. Oh I didn't touch it Nope not pointing any fingers There we go. Can you see it now? No not yet add to stage. Okay. There we go. Um, I just looked at the first page And um, uh, I did read as much as I could on that first page. It's it's you know Very thoughtful dense answers. Yes. Um, I thought, you know, first of all, I I was touched by people taking time to write as much as they did because it shows how much the members of the community care About, you know, our our experience on wiki tree and and our pursuit together to create one tree Um, and second of all, it was really um a learning experience because sometimes Someone would I could see myself doing this. Um, they asked a question Could we do this and it's a feature that already exists on wiki tree And so steve harris often was the one who jumped in and said, oh, did you know that you could do? Yes, and here's how you do it So, um, here are a few that I highlighted from the first page Um, so I I Craig have you played with a family portrait app? The um, yes, I I yeah It's one of the tree apps, right? Yeah, I guess so I have not Okay So yoke was um was saying, um, if I have photos for a father and a son When I run the app with the son's wiki tree ID, it shows both IDs But when I run it with the father's wiki tree ID is this not show the son's photo So it sounds like it's one way ancestors. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Yeah Yeah It's yeah, I mean, you know how we have an ancestor's button and a descendants button It would be nice if it would run two ways. Yeah I mean, this is the first version of the of the app that He's put out and I'm sure that he's got ideas for Improvements, exactly. Yeah, so steve. It's it's his app Uh, I guess and um, he responded it for currently focuses on ancestors It goes up 10 steps from the starting profile and sideways one step from the starting profile He's had its request to expand and he'll work on it So thanks, steve. Yeah Then David Randall's question right now. Oh, what is that? That's a while if I one wish wiki tree wish for 20 it'd be the to re-examine upgrade the options for entering names um That's uh Sure, this sure. Okay. There we go. Okay. Now I can see yokes. That was one of my later ones. Okay Sorry In my in my quest not to scroll. Oh, yeah, I have six qua tabs. Okay Oh my goodness Thank you for for flagging that great. No problem Yeah, so but I basically just told you what what uh yoke asked and steve responded The next one I thought was it's very simple, but a good idea A permanent place for a wish list Like instead of asking this question, you know, once or twice a year just have like maybe a free space page It would be a central place to ask for improvements suggestions voting So I thought that was a good idea ng hill posted that Okay Then somebody let's see who is this reagan conley Suggested a citation builder built right into the edit page That would create industry standard citations So Reagan acknowledged, you know, what a good job the browser extension does But mentioned that you sometimes have to tweak them, you know, just because of the nature of where it's coming from And thought we could we could look at some of these already available models citation builder scriver Grammarly So that's I mean we're all about Solid citations. So that's a yes. Yeah. Yeah Um and see again says I have a small app built for my use But I haven't published it yet because it needs some work. Perhaps I can work on that and integrate it within the browser extension light bulb like that Then um Margaret meredith said, uh, she'd like the ability to upload multiple photographs or documents at once So they tag them. I I have sometimes wished for that. Yes I I think it would be interesting to know like really Would it be useful most of the time? Or just Yeah, I know when I when I do want it. I really want it. But yeah, I don't know if it's most of the time Well, I know like putting together our the free space page to help with um, you know an app like the new app You know, I take lots of screenshots, you know And then I have to you have to upload them one at a time and that's that's can is quite painful So that's a scenario where uploading multiple ones would be wonderful. Yeah Even if it just labels them screenshot one two like sequentially Yeah, would be fine. Right. Right. You always go back and edit those details or or something like that. Yeah, I hadn't thought of that That's a good point um Then moving on um Now there were two at least two people there were two people on the first page Who asked for an ability to sequence photos and images rather than have them appear in upload order? Yes along the side and um, so there's a very lengthy response from um, Eric Weddington about um Using the coding where you can insert the photo into the biography text Okay, therefore you would have control Over the order in which the you know presuming that the person was reading through the biography presentation of the images So there's there's a lot of wisdom here I didn't have plus if they use one of your very first tips of the week about storing your photos on a free space page Yes, and then only referring to them using that image In the bio then you don't see the list on the side which can sometimes be distracting anyways and not in the order you want Yes, yeah as presented as you've created it in the bio, right? I mean that's it for sure. It's an extra step, but it's it's nice It gives a nice sleek look to the profile Yeah, um, I was basically I was doing Two on it's quite a tutorial here. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah for various people Okay, so that was that um Yeah, so definitely check that out and then um Okay, wiki so from eric again. Um wiki tree has a merge profile capability But what about a split profile capability? I thought that was interesting, you know because sometimes you you see one profile. It's definitely two people and could we I work I spent a couple of weeks working on one of those a year There's a lot of work Yeah Yes, we can create a new profile and move over sources manually But it would be nice to have a function that makes it easier to specify a different set of parents Perhaps an easy way to copy or split the biography and sources Hmm So yeah, that's a good idea. I guess currently you just copy you just do the whole copy of all of the biography And then and then manually extract for each interesting And my last tab If this was the one you were looking at, um, if I had one wiki data scandal If I had one wiki tree wish for 2024 It would be that the wiki tree team reads him and an upgrade the options for entering names on profiles Um, if it's a if a not a non western language And indeed like to see an option for displaying names in both the native script and the latin script So that we could honor the individual's native culture while also keeping the profile accessible To the vast majority of wiki tree members who can only read latin script So, yeah, I mean, of course, many of you know, david is um a global project Leader and which is going to be rolled out in two in two days Oh first We'll be doing a i'm partnering up with david. We're gonna do a live cast on january 8th to uh to unveil it but um, yeah, I mean, it's definitely I know I have that issue with my um my taiwanese family And I've just Taken to inserting the characters within the biography um But but I noticed on the uh, toyota. Yeah Bio how can can you pull that up again? Sure can stop because I I saw Yeah His name is is written there in the in the It's not is it the kanji. I can't remember the name for it. Yeah kanji Um, can you go and can you go into edit mode? I can edit And look at this so and then there's uh, that's a different Uh, what what kind of script that's a different type of script right here? Yeah, you know the proper first first two are are Those are also chinese characters as well there But but the third line is specifically japanese. Oh Oh, okay That's interesting Thank you yoke, you know, we need here sarah sarah knows all about this stuff. Does she yeah, she she learned some japanese ah, okay so It looks like it's somewhat possible Right. Yeah, I think it it is possible and you just have um, I don't know if you need a special keyboard Or you just need to know the magic codes to type in to get those Characters what I do is I find it somewhere Copy and paste Friends or to write it out for me and then I copy it. Yeah, so it looks like you can use them But what david does say? The order in which you present the name right the default way the name is presented There's no tab. There's no button to choose that. No, right So I in your on your tyre tywinese family, do they uh follow the same as um Japanese and chinese where the last name last name is first. Yeah, last name is the first one you said The surname is the lat is the first name Yeah, I'm glad when they put in like three generations of people in a profile like this because that confirms me Yes, toyola was actually the last name because that's yeah, yeah You know, uh, because I'm I'm always wondering, you know Is it really in the correct order or is is the person writing the biography? You know using their western Um bias to you know, but when you see at least two and possibly three names, then you realize no they've done it Right. Yeah for their culture. You know what is also confusing in some families including my own They would name all the sons with the same prefix and all the daughters with the same prefix So my dad's brother my dad was shen chong and then there was shen ming shen chong They were all shen something so it'd be kua shen chong and then the sisters were all shu So kua shu hua kua shu Uh, so that also adds not all families did that and I think it's a more old-fashioned thing, but Um, that's also tricky Hmm sounds neat though. Yeah. Yeah, it's fascinating Very cool Wow That you went through those questions very well Oh, thank you Wow I mean, as I said disclaimer, I only did the first page and I think it's a really settle in with your afternoon beverage Yes, there's a lot of suggestions there read them and uh learn Yeah, and if you have suggestions, it's not too late. You can add them as well Yeah, all of that will be taken into account. Um, and as chris had mentioned there I mean they are planning some Some changes to the way wiki tree looks this coming year They're actually there's going to be a UI overhaul so it's going to look a little fresher and whatnot and So Very cool stuff to look forward to Very nice Um, while we were talking about the profiles of the week, uh azure gave us this link and um, let me just put this There so there's actually a page of wiki trees that we've lost In 2023, did you know that I did I read this you would know that Of course, Betsy would know but not all of us. Um, actually realize that but yes the wiki tree community, of course Like every other community has lost members. Um, and so gi Constantino was um From the kbqa project and I remember I think I've got a welcome message from him when I first joined and so That's sad that he's long and shirley dalton Project leader team leader. I don't think I ever met shirley or dealt with her But then there's a whole memorial gallery gallery Um, so that's nice I'm really glad that we do that that is very nice, isn't it? Yeah Um, so if we go to 2023, there's a gallery look at that with people's names and faces and stuff So anyways, let me put the link to that in the chat as well for people to There we go, and I guess it's helpful if I click on it too, right? So you can see it. Um Anyways, I will stop scrolling through it so you can scroll through and appreciate All the people we lost but um We are still we are still here and december is still here and there are some things left Left in december to do not much. Uh, there's a the roundup today and then tomorrow the weekend chat is going till tomorrow I can tell you um that the Today at 12 noon will be the fifth day of elfmas So that uh, we'll go live at noon today and tomorrow the sixth day of elfmas the video will Be released or they will go live at 3 p.m Because our elf is from the west coast and he says he likes to sleep his he's got a young family And they really like to sleep in so But then the next day new year's day Is a very busy day for me I have to play for a mass and it's my mother-in-law's 92nd birthday So happy birthday in advance to her and we're hosting and celebrating So we are having the elfmas starts at 9 a.m on new year's day so Any of though any of you who are not partying too hard on new year's eve or come from a different count time zone And 9 a.m My time is you know middle of the afternoon Join us at 9 a.m The 7th day at 9 a 9 a 9 a.m eastern right 9 a.m eastern. Yes, so i'm giving eastern times But yes, you have to do the translation I'm not but if you go to youtube youtube will tell you the right time because Aowyn is an angel as well as an elf and she has posted all of those uh in advance on youtube So you can just go check that out there Um, of course lots of the month long challenges ongoing events rock you Is when will rock you end or tomorrow night at midnight tomorrow night at midnight? Yeah, it's And uh, so we'll do the uh the rock reveal on Thursday, january 11th Okay, um, and i'm i'm blank. There there've been a lot of time. It's it's on the calendar It's on the yeah, I it's midday. I think Eastern time We will rock you I I don't know if the I should I should put a I'll find it. You'll find okay. That's okay. We will find it And I don't know is there a post for january yet for What's happening around wiki tree in january? I Don't think so. I don't think so yet, but you know stay tuned stay tuned january 1st or 2nd It'll show up eventually. Okay. The rock the rock presentation is january 11th at noon eastern Okay, january 11th noon. Okay so and There we go and azure has Given us the social media Wait a second Am I in the right spot 24th There we are week of sunday december 31st here we are Um all the links for all the things that are happening Power is the one name choose for one name tuesday is the The name that we're going to be talking about calzine castle in south aireshire. That's scullin, right? It's got to be Aireshire. Yeah, I think so. Yeah Uh, uh, we have an ask a lash coming up on wednesday Because the first wednesday of the month in january, so a lash and I join us at 9 a.m for that um, I'll have to make sure that the Elf class doesn't conflict with that day um and then uh We've a connectathon is the event that we're going to showcase on thursday uh connection finder mcrenals Uh was from the friday hallows fame spotlight And then of course we'll have bingo. We're having a friday bingo coming up That's exciting And then we'll be back with the roundup and the roundup will be all about the uh reveal for the secret santa. So We have a great week As long as we're we're talking dates. Um, I'll just put it out there the new member q and a's via zoom We're going to switch the schedule Uh in 2024 So it used to be the first thursday of the month and the sunday following that And I just got a i've got a little hectic in that one Long week longest weekend. So we're now going to do the second thursday of each month And the last and the fourth sunday of each month So i've put out a g2g post already the times are going to remain the same But it's we're going to shift Which thursday and which sunday we do well that makes a lot of sense and then people have you know They only have two weeks to wait from yeah join to get to a new member Yeah, I like that Excellent Well, that's great. Well, I think I think we've come to the end Oh And it's the this is the last uh roundup of 2023 isn't it? Well, because next year it'll next week will be in january already. Yeah Um, and too bad mags is not here, but i'm sure she's waving madly Computer screen and waving to us all. Yes. I know she I know she is yes, and uh, thank you to everyone who's joined us and Have a great 2023 and um Give you the last the final word Betsy. Okay. Well, happy new year everyone Well, see you soon. See you soon. Bye