 And seeing 615, we have posted the agenda in three places, saying that the meeting starts at 615. Recording in progress. We're now recording. It's been posted on the website and emailed to interested parties so we can move forward with this meeting. And I'm going to start with the prior meeting minutes for September 26th. It looked appropriate to me. Do you guys have any corrections or concerns? I just made one little correction to put an I in front of the 89 signs. 89 signs? Not 89 signs on the product. Yeah, 50 years from now they'll wonder where those 800 signs are. All right. So I'd move to approve the minutes for that. I second that. In addition, all in favor? Aye. Okay. Cool. And we have any guests Larry or you're here for anything in particular? Just you miss us? I do. All right. You miss me too. All right. We've got the on the new business. We've got the September treasurer's report. You guys have a chance to study on that much? I looked it over. You looked it over and anything jump out at you? No, it didn't happen to me either. A lot of numbers. I always wish there was more on the bottom line, but that's never slow. Never going to happen. No, no. So is that something that move to approve this this edition of the treasurer's report? We approve the review. Approve the review? All in favor? Aye. Okay. We had a request from John Duger about his utility bill. And do you have Frank? You had some details or Terry? You have details on that? Details or nothing about it. Here's the bills that he has right here. Okay. And this was his request. Okay. He called and he has two late water bills and would like to resolve with some help. He's trying to sell this property. And it's, so this is what he got the total amount to do is what, 674 dollars? Or is this, is it two separate ones? I think this is the other one. That was the balance forward. Okay. And so, so this is property that he hasn't been in, but he kept the water on just in case he would come. I'm not sure. Very, you know, what the deal was there? I don't think he gets a lot of usage. I think it's just, he doesn't have a lot of usage or anything, but if his water is not shut off and if we shut it off, then I disconnect it. And he would have to pay a new hookup fee for both water and sewer. And he'd have to probably go through an engineer, which would have to go through the state to see if we could hook it back in. So you're talking, it probably cost him roughly probably guessing around three to $5,000 if I unhook it. And he never requested unhooking it. He never did. Okay. So I'm going to add a little to that because the property is being transferred. All the property taxes and utility bills need to be satisfied before transferring the deed. Right. So that balance would typically be taken out of his proceeds from the sale of the house. So it's not something that he really needs to pay up front in order for the house to sell. The attorneys call and they get the property tax bill and whatever might be due for water and sewer. And they, they deviate, prorate it at closing. So this is really something that can easily be handled at his closing. At the closing, yeah. I'm in the same situation with the garage property. The water is shut off, but I'm still paying the water charge and meter charge. Like I said, if you're going to hook it. Yeah. And for you, it'd be a commercial set. So the commercial hookup, I think 3,000 or 1200 for water and 2,000 or something like that for a sewer. And then you still got to go through the engineering fees. Yeah. So yeah, I think that we just maybe can clarify with him that this is something that's not going to hold up the sale of his house, but that will be cleared up in. He's still responsible for it, but it'll be taken out of his proceeds. Yeah. So I don't think we can just say, hey, congratulations. You're selling your house. You don't have to pay the bills. I don't think so. So I'm just going to, you want to give him a call back and then measure? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing is he never requested. Right. So yeah. Yeah. You can't request it after the fact. Yeah. It's not like it was a over usage. Oh, it could be. It could be sponsored or something. That's something that we can work with people for. This is just for the basic service fees. And is Tony on Zoom or anybody from the library? I don't think so, but I do. Can the person please that's on the phone with the number ending in 4998. Could you please state your name? Hmm. They're on you. Okay. Well, hopefully it's not Tony. Okay. I'm missing this chance to talk to you. Yep. You got any reports from the highway? I know it's not our job that the, about 100 is getting paid, but it is getting paid. Yeah. Well, they couldn't work today and Friday while they pick in any way after the holidays. Yeah. So they'll be out tomorrow, I would imagine. And I shoot, they're going pretty fast. Yeah. They got pretty much up to where they, they thought they'd be at the bridge by last Thursday because so they're going to be coming through pretty good. I've talked to John about working on the capital plan with him and I'll be sitting down with him. Pat has brought up something that we need to address at Bill Carlson's in the hollows and I'll go up and look at that. Probably not tomorrow, but maybe the next day. He's putting some sign up on his garage, is that? It's a piece of a back of a school bus. So it sticks out in the road a little bit or what, what's the deal there? It definitely infringes on the right of way. Yep. So we'll have to deal with that. Okay. Just because you meet a truck there or something. Yeah. That would be an issue. And plus I don't know, I'll take John up with me too to see what we'll get together. So I'll talk with him. We'll go up and see what the deal is. And we will be working on the budget. He's working on the budget and the capital plan will sit down and get that done next week or so. All right. All right. You said Martha had a question there? Yes, please. What Frank was saying about who was the person he was talking about who had the sign on his barn. I was writing something and I missed it. That's Bill Carlson on town line road. Okay. So it's sticking out in the road. No, we're going to take a look at it. We're not sure, Martha. It's been brought to our attention. We have to go up and look at it to see what the deal is with it. Okay. Thank you. No problem. Sorry. I'll mute myself. Okay. Thank you. Good. All right. Terry got any updates on the utility world? No. Nope. Thanks. Everything's okay. Oh, there's a flush in the water. Hello. Yeah. Okay. Well, hello. That's the 4998. Now, this is Robert Frank. Who was the host of this meeting this evening? That would be me or the slide board in general. Yeah. We can hear you, Robert. Sorry. What's your question? I continue to be muted. We mute everybody that's doing it. It's me, Kristen. I run the computer and we mute people on zoom until they raise their hand either vocally or by pressing the raise your hand button just so we can run a smooth meeting. Well, I think you should put those rules of law or rules of regulations to the public because I didn't know this and you continue, Kristen, you continue to, continuing to mute me. So you're unmuted. So you're unmuted now. What can we do for you tonight, Robert? There's a number of issues. Okay. We're going through it. So let me make this clear to Kristen. Wait a second. I'm looking at my computer and I cannot speak to the computer. I have to speak on the phone. So what's with that? I don't know. I can sit back and relax. I don't know. So let's get, so we're on there. Let's, we're moving toward public comment and then we can get onto that. Are you able to manipulate your computer enough to click the raise your hand icon? Well, the next time you post a meeting, say you have to raise your hand in front of Kristen to be present. All right. I don't know anything about this. It's pretty common zoom etiquette. That's between you and the digital community. This is democracy and I'm being discreet by this. If you'd like me to continue, I will. When we get to public comment, we can address your concerns, but we're working through the departmental agenda. You're excited that way. Well Kristen, wake up and smell the roses. Okay. Well, you do have a copy of our agenda that came with the zoom invite. So there's a copy of our agenda and you'll see that we're on our way to public comment. All right. So I is Jeff get part on there. He's un-meeting as we speak. He's un-meeting? Yeah. Good evening, Jeff. Hi, Jeff. Hi. Don't have too much. I've been really dizzy a tail in the summer, but I'm starting to, I roll my sleeves up and starting to get back on the horse. We should have, I'm checking to make sure that it's still coming up, but unless you guys know something differently, we're supposed to have the electric vehicle chargers installed by the end of this month. Sarah Peary has. We lost you, Jeff. Left GMT and Madam Kirk Shield, and I sent an email off to him this morning to find out whether they are on track for an end of October. All right, yeah, I was curious about that. I can be in touch with Caleb on that, Jeff. The last I knew, they were going to be another year because they had trouble with the panel. They can't get the 277-480 panels for a year. They're a year out. So unless they were going to, they were going to try to match one up. So I talked with the chief engineer and Caleb there one day and met with a guy that's going to do the work. This was probably two months ago, and they figured it was going to be a year out unless they could find the panel. And they thought the panel was at least a year out. OK, because Sarah told me, I believe Sarah told me, that she had the equipment. Yeah, I got a copy of that email to Jeff. And I talked with Casey for the Green Mountain Power. He's the one that's going to be doing all the work. They've agreed to do the project and take care of all the trimming and everything. And they want to locate it towards the back of the parking lot. And I've requested that they stay at least 10 feet away from the septic line that's buried in there. They're going to cross it. Because that's near the end, you can see where it runs through there. They're going to be on the parking lot side. I want to talk to you about that, so we'll go down and we'll look at that. Because I just took my video off. Oh, so you have a better connection without the video? Because I was freezing up here, so I think we'll keep engaged with you later on, Frank. The library had this little tag with Cody Downs, I'm trying to find out what he observed when he added flashing between the first and second story. And of course, there's concern remaining about the openings, particularly the north wall, for the windows. I don't know if anything further is planned there or whether I should start looking at that. We'll continue trying to figure something out there. I think you and I need to get together and we'll figure going forward. I think what we need to do is get a contractor in there to look at that, just to see what they think we should do and possibly look at how we're going to vent that to try to keep the pain on that building. OK, well, I'm available for that. OK. Well, back I set up some spreadsheets for the track expenses. Those have been neglected for a while. This week, I got the electric caught up and I'll probably be in touch with Kristen to if I'm missing any of them. All right. Martha's got a couple questions. It will build. I'd like meshing those with the EDI audit and start coming up with some proposals. Great. Is that it? That's really it. Do we have any updates on the resiliency zone project from Green Mountain Power? Are they still contemplating that? Oh, yeah. They have a contract with Norwich Solar. It will be next year, not this year. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think they'd do it that quick, but interesting. Yeah, Norwich Solar is going to be doing the design and the permitting for GMP. Martha, you had some questions? Yeah, I just wondered, going back to when Jeff began talking on that electrical vehicle charger, which he said would be installed by the end of this month, is that that it sounds like maybe that's if he or not, is that definite? And if so, where was it going to be installed? Where in town? That's going to be at the park and ride across from the fire station. Well, I have no. Oh, they changed that. It sounds. Go ahead, Jeff. You know, until tonight, I was under the impression it was to be installed by the end of the month. Oh, right. Right. So it's not going to be installed till later. Frank's conversation with the engineer seems to indicate that it's going to be next year. OK, but next year it would be if the place is the same, the park and ride? Yes. And that's the park and ride north of town. If I said park and ride north of town, north of the village. On the north end of the village. It's in the village across from the fire station. Village, OK. OK, thank you very much. Sorry to bother you. No problem. Thank you. Unless we'll get it straight. Yep. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you. Yep. So we now are on to our public comment session. Robert, you had something you wanted to talk about other than the Zoom etiquette. The what? The navigation of Zoom meetings. Well, I had a lot of good information delivered to the town of Rochester. But tomorrow morning I'll be on with the Secretary of State to understand the rules and regulation of Zoom meetings with the Select Board, Board of Civil Authority, and Nancy, you look like you're going to throw up in Maine. So Kristen does not have the authority to mute me, OK? So if you'd like me to go on with what I thought was very positive feedback to the town of Rochester, I will do so. OK. Do you want me to do that? Please do. Sure. We're ready. OK. Number one, Dana, whatever his coonie, whatever, I don't know who the road guy is, they're doing an incredible job on the roads of Rochester. The building being constructed on the north side of Rochester, I don't know what it's going to be, but the laborers are doing a great job. Number three, the firehouse. The firehouse, can anyone answer this question? When was the old firehouse vacated, 2010 or 2011? 2013. 2013. So that was after Irene. Yes. Prompted that. That was after Irene because the new fire station was built on a donated property that had flooded during Irene. OK. So I requested from Kristen, who is a paid employee appointed by the town of Rochester for the deed of the firehouse to determine what is involved with the reason why the building has been vacant for 11 years, 10 years. What's being used for storage? It's not vacant, actually. It has a rotating storage depending on the season for town equipment. So we have coffee roasters, brewery people, Bill Carlson wanting to open an antique store. What's the number? Does the town know the number for public real estate to be sold within the town? We choose not to place the building for sale at this time. Well, it's only been 10 years. We have no intentions of selling it. We're using it for storage. Well, I would think that it would be proper to announce for Martha to report that to the town because there's a number of people, the owner of Maple Soul, that want to use that for economic development in the town. That was several years ago, yes. Every time someone has approached us about wanting to purchase it, it's been made public comment that we were not willing to sell it. Hardware being sold. Well, it's been publicly stated multiple times. So it's not like a secret. Do you know the reason why the town can't sell it? Because we'd like to use it for storage. Well, you might want to look into the state's statutes. The building is not really classified as a very healthy building as well, which was one of the reasons why we needed a new fire department, correct? Right. Well, I would get in touch with the how to your real estate person. Yes, I am. The reason why the town of Rochester can't put that forward to the public and turn it into an economic development project, just like the school. The town chooses to maintain the building for storage purposes. What temperature should the building be held at throughout the year? Whatever temperature it is, that's why it's a perfect building for what it's being used for. There's no power. Oh, again, you might want to check in with the state. OK. The building should be held at 58 degrees year round. There's no furnace in there. There's no heat. There's no water going into that building. It's just a cold storage unit. And we put the park benches, and John keeps the sander in there in the summer for his one of the pickups. And we keep the picnic tables in there. The guy who does the sidewalks parks his sidewalk plow in there during the winter just because it keeps it under cover and it's handy for him to use out of there. And that's the only thing we use it for. And it's just got a bunch of cones in there in case of an emergency that is used. And that's about it. There's a bunch of town equipment in there other than that, Robert. It serves a very useful purpose. You really, Frank, you might thank you for all that information. But you might want to check in with the state because that's a tax paid building paid by the tax payers of Rochester and this county. And you're telling me there are cones and clouds through. I mean. Yeah, it actually serves quite a big service to the town to have the sidewalk clearing tractor perched right there in the village ready to go. It's so it does, you know, it serves a purpose. Yes, it is right on Main Street when we looked at possibly renting it to the Maple Soul folks who initially was talking about brewing beer in there and instead of opening a restaurant and the complications with our septic system being able to handle that activity, it just was off the charts impractical. Yeah, so it's not that we haven't explored the possibilities. But is that? Well, the only thing I'm recommending to the select board, the board of civil authority and the rest is that checking with the state with regards to public building and understand the responsibility that the town of the building and the town owners or taxpayers of the building have your basically jurisdiction. So I don't I'm just recommending that doing and patting Frank and the rest deck it with the state and make certain that what's going on with that building is proper and legal. Oh, no, throw the high school in on that. I don't really care what's stored in there. Yeah, OK. OK, thank you. Hey, here's the question. We will do that. What's stored in the high school? We don't own the high school. That's the school. Yeah, that's the school bar about that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So sadly, I had great information to share with everyone, including Martha and Nancy and the rest. But you know, I'm actually very disappointed with the Wizard of Oz, Kristen, muting me and telling me I have to raise my hand. I don't know how to raise my hand. So tomorrow morning, I'm calling the Secretary of State asking them to review this video. Dude, don't look away. I'm going to ask them to review it. You can't see it. Don't look away. I'll point it. Oh, Robert, OK. Did he just hang up? Yes, sir, he did. OK. He's still here watching us through his buddies off the phone. OK. I had a couple things. You have some other things in public, huh? No, I have some old business. Yep, all right. Did we have any further investigation into the maintenance agreement that we're being asked to sign for the stormwater? I have to get a copy from Kristen of the As Built play-ins there so that we have a copy of that. Should have been for payment. Well, we didn't pay anything. Well, before they paid it, it should have been. Right. We need to get a copy of the As Built play-ins so we can go over this agreement easier. And John has kept an eye on it since it was put in. And the big one to the north, the drain there to the north, he has not seen any water flowing from that one into this one in the middle. And so there's really not much water going into him. And he said, I've looked at him every time it rains and watch how the ground is after we paved it all. And he said he hasn't seen any water going into that center one from that other one. So if you look in that other one, it's bone drop. Yeah, it's probably over time as sediment builds up, that'll do it. Yeah, it'll put the stone up for a minute or so. And that was written in there that you have to clean that stone. Yeah, I know. We've got to look at it. I want to see what the As Built is and make sure we've got a copy of that. John knows where some of it is. And the defender is on the end towards the river by the salt shed. That would vary. Well, the caps are there, but it is buried. It's got the sample over it right now. So I'll take care of that this week. Have we heard from Bruce Fuelling about the Jones Mountain property issue? We haven't. I talked with Bruce about it, and he said he was going to try and get with Cooter, which has got the software on his phone to go and do the geolocation, if you get specific with the road. So I'm going to send it. Yeah, I mean, I could probably pull a deed for the people that are denying the right-of-way to see if there is anything written in that might have to go back a few owners to see if there is a right-of-way. All our maps indicate that it is a road. It was never thrown up as a trail or anything. So all the maps indicate what it's under, like a pint road. So we have to look at what the rules are to pint roads, and I'm not really positive how that all plays into that. And Bruce has done a lot of research on this stuff anyway. And so he was having some personal issues, and he wasn't able to address much until he gets through some of these things that are happening there. So that's why that's where it is. Forward it again. Yeah, yeah. So all we can do with that. Anything else that you had on your list, Pat? No. No. No, thanks for bringing those up. Does anybody in Zoom land or need anything to? Well, actually, I do have something else to say. Oh, you do have something? I thought you might. I'm in the process of compiling a grant, which is called the VTRAAN Safe Routes to School Spot Improvement Program. It's designated to improve bike lanes and sidewalks within villages that lead up to schools. Hello. Excuse me, we'll be right with you. And this particular program. One second, Patty. I've been trying to make a comment. And Kristen, again, has muted me. I haven't done anything. No, no one has muted you. You hung up? No, no, no, no, no. Wait a second. I asked Kristen last Wednesday if she would be so kind to prepare the deed of the firehouse for me. And tonight, you basically said, oh, it's just a storage shed. Kristen, if there was any more. Robert, you know what? You just jumped right in and interrupted something that Pat was saying. No, I did not interrupt. Oh, actually, that's not true. We've got a lot of people here that just really? Yeah, yeah. You hung up. Your phone hung up. No, I did not hang up. What it sure sounded like. And it disconnected from the. Your glyph in his phone. That's what you guys thought it was. I did not hang up. Well, it's OK if we recorded. OK. So. Well, thank you, Patty. We'll listen to the orco together eating popcorn on Friday night. No, we won't. Now I'm hanging up. There you go. That's what it sounded like the first time. OK, so just for the record, though, he's his computer is still on and he is unmuted, just so you're aware of that. OK, OK. So can I continue? Yeah, go ahead. In the process of seeking grant money for 2022, be trans safe routes to school spot improvement program. It's to improve bike paths and sidewalks. And I did tour the town with Rita from VTrans. And we have selected a section of sidewalk that we're hoping to get a 100% non matching grant. In other words, we don't have to come up with any matching funds to restore the sidewalk from the parsonage up to Brook Street. And so the sidewalk will be, for the most part, the sidewalk up there is wide enough to be ADA compliant. There is a section by the parsonage where it might have to become a little bit wider. And they will replace the granite curbing along the way. And they are hoping that there's a drainage, a storm drain right there at that corner that will need to be reconfigured. And we're hoping to go up around the corner, not to the bridge, but just curl up around the corner so that people from Brook Street would start on the sidewalk before they even enter Bethel Mountain Road. I believe I got an initial thumbs up working with Rita. And she's very pleasant to work with. And I've got. I'm not sure. I'm not sure which way to go. So that's the standard. Yeah, it might be. It's in pretty rough shape. I looked at it pretty good the other day when I read the meters. Also, the section by Catherine's Lovely Flowers are kind of overpowering the sidewalk a little bit. And it pushes people a little more towards the traffic. So it might be time to cut back some of the foliage there, the flowers. But we're working on that. And we're hoping by next year we will be able to complete another section. And this is an ongoing program. So if this works out this time around, we're going to go back and knock on their door time and time again. And we could include bike paths as well in the future. That's it. All right. Good. So this is an annual grant, you're saying? Yes. The Vermont Safe Roads to School. Safe routes. Safe routes. Safe routes to school. And we're lucky enough our elementary school is right in the village. So we have a lot of children that walk to schools and buses. Thanks for doing that, school. Good. Good. Thanks. I've been used a lot. Yeah, it does. It's very busy. All right. Anything else anybody needs to speak about? If not, I think we'll adjourn and pay some bills. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Yep. Move to adjourn. I second. All in favor? Aye. OK.