 It's kind of a dramatic example, but that's the way it works. Can I just ask a question? When you're in a relationship and things are being mirrored and you recognise that it's probably not about them, it's about you, and you deal with your soul searching and you deal with your issues, which hopefully then don't get projected bad at you, but then you can sometimes recognise them in somebody else, like someone who do a drama, this is mine, you know, like you're doing a bad thing in a drama, you can recognise what someone's doing. Does that still mean that you have self-conscious hooks, yourself still, or can you clear your own stuff out but still be aware of it around you? Yeah, it all depends on your state of mind. If you feel a sense of peace as you're watching something, it can be the Holy Spirit just using it as a teaching device, pointing something out, noticing this, and also maybe giving us even helpful instruction for something that you may be able to share or extend that will extend the blessing. So it really comes down to whether there's a charge there. That's what I think it's a guy. If it doesn't upset me, I'm observing. It doesn't mean I'm mirroring it or creating it, but if I'm getting antsy at all or uncomfortable, I assume there's still something hooked in there. I'm just a little bit confused as long as I say it because it may not mirror anything. Yeah, it's more that if there's a defence mechanism that you're aware of, if you have a charge on it, all it's doing is it's reflecting something that you still believe is possible. So that's why there's the charge. It's because you still believe in it and then you're seeing it and identifying it and there's a charge on it. But when you reach a point where you have no charge on it, there's no identification with it. And in that sense, you're freed. I'm suffering that body. No. We want the next one. Yeah, you don't have to try to say, well, I'm still seeing it. I think too, there is a place where you merge into this purpose where for me it was you become so into the purpose and so into this sense of unified purpose that even the seeing of it, the perceiving of it disappears. Because perception is selective. What we perceive is what we believe. And then when your mind becomes so unified, that's what I mean by the Magoo mind. You can become oblivious. There could seem to be a hurricane going on around you but you're in such a still point that you don't identify it. And yet the Holy Spirit can still offer that which is helpful. You could still do somebody ask for some help or whatever you would be able to address it. So, for example, telepathy, there comes a phase where you start to be able to be very telepathic and pick up lots of thoughts. But then the more you get into your purpose, then it's like, even with that, you don't take any of it personally. You're not reacting or responding at all to any of it. And that's where the joy is very consistent. So it's more like a state of detachment than it is of you're not really ignoring anything or trying to avoid anything. And you become so detached from those ego thoughts that there's no interpretation going on of anything of events, circumstances. And that's where you could say, another way of saying that is it's a very peaceful interpretation of what's going on, the Holy Spirit's interpretation. So it's quite calm. I don't have none. It's like a big moment. You stick out at 16 and 11. Could you maybe explain how you would perceive that event through the awesome cross and maybe to a child who doesn't understand? Yeah. I mean, it's without the belief in attack, which gets farther back in the mind, it's actually the world is kind of like swirling leaves or swirling feathers to the Holy Spirit. There's no interpretations of things because only through attack thoughts does the perception of a world come in where specifics can attack other specifics. And so you could look at the event, it's just like the fall is a tower of battle in ancient days. This was like a symbol of Wall Street and money and building things. This world was a bunch of paper tires where you might say it's like a house of cards is another way to describe the world. It can be built up. Like you can build a house of cards and you have to carefully set them together but you can see the wind blowing the trees outside but just this amount of wind would blow over a house of cards. It wouldn't take much. The world is symbolic of a self-concept that's really very fragile and volatile. Everyone can get into prosperity and building more and having stronger nations and more prosperity and greater economic growth and bigger gross national products for the nations and more technology and so on and so forth. And yet it's still a house of cards. It's still very, very fragile. And so when things seem to collapse whether it's economics, whether it's the World Trade Center or whatever, I think it's just good to watch your emotions and it's also good to be reminded that this world is backwards and upside down and that's why as you go more and more and journey inward you start to put all the focus on your state of mind and your interpretations and you start to take it away from this idea that there are external events happening or that there are forces of evil in the world that are fighting against forces of good. And we hear enough political speeches where the leader of one country will say God is with us. God is on our side or something and it just sounds funnier and funnier that it's an idea like God would take us side or is in favor of a particular people or a group of people or a nation. We did have this, we made this movie and we were watching in Sydney and people were laughing so hard because the movie was just pointing out all of the hypocrisies that there are in this world in all the religions and talking about God but really not living it out not really walking the talk. And so if you were talking to a child you might have to use the whole thing as more of a metaphor just like we have so many great parables that kind of focus on what's devoted underneath instead of what's the outcome in form. I actually had a friend and had a friend in the States who was very devoted to the course of miracles and was meditated for many years and she was born on September 11. So on the morning of September 11, 2001 she was having a birthday party with a group of her course of miracles friends and they were partying, partying and somebody said, oh, heard something from somewhere turn it on and they actually turned on the TV screen and watched the scenes and the events but the party continued. And you really have to know her to really know her deeply to know her devotion to practicing the principles of the course of miracles to see that she really wasn't in a state of denial and the party continued and didn't slow down or even picked up a bit during that morning, during those events it was because of a lot of years over 20 years of mind training of really allowing yourself to be convinced by Jesus of the value of peace and of that nothing in the world can get it to you and nothing in the world can take it away and it's totally an interesting matter.