 Welcome to Toffy TV, this is a bit of a transfer roundup, the day before, the deadline, loads of mad stories flying around, so let's get into some of them. This video is sponsored by Unibeth for more great transfer stories, head over to the Unibeth blog where we've got a blog at the moment. Billy has written a fantastic blog about the players Everton have been looking at. Unibeth have also got some fantastic writers putting out all the transfer stories, so get over there, the link is in the description. Baz, it's gone a bit mad, it's Wednesday afternoon, it's gone a little bit mad, we've got up this morning, put Sky on and they're saying Zahar, nothing less than £80 million for Zahar. And then this afternoon, when everyone's thinking, oh well that's dead, they're never going to go to £80 million. Some very credible journalists like Paul Joyce, David Ornstein of the BBC was very, very good, saying that, no, no, we're still pursuing it. Joyce saying that the player now is starting to get very angry about the situation, he wants to leave, he wants to leave, I don't know whether there's been an agreement put in place or something, that if someone had come in. He feels like he's being priced out of a move. It's getting a bit tasty. It's all going off, isn't it? We've got the Alex of Wobby bid that Everton made at 30. Will we come on to that one? No, but I've just been all with that with the Zahar story, it's all mad, it was all going so calmly and everyone was just riding the wave, weren't they? It's certainly up until the weekend just gone, you know, we saw John Philip Govaman and Moïse Keane coming, and we're all excited with that. Sadibiel coming to the ice coming in. Sadibiel might be already beat. Baratamys getting, yeah. So, you know, it's all going along nicely obviously, there's a hard stuff broke early last week, but then the last couple of days it's cranked right up, hasn't it? My personal view is 80 million's way too much for them, personally. But is it way too much for them? I know it might be way too much for you, your estimation of them, but is it worth going to 80 million for a player the club clearly want? That's the question, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. I can say that. If they've bid 70, which some people said they haven't, some people have said they haven't, but if they've bid 70, is it worth going to 80? Well, yeah. The reality is, yeah, for 10 million quid, 10 million quid, nothing now, which is sounds ridiculous to say that. But 10 million pound from 70 to 80, the jump isn't great, isn't it? It's not really that big. You know, we're going to Henry Ong Y Curie, it looks like he's about to move to Monaco as well, he gets that weight. Need a work payment, ironically? It's a visa, it's slightly different, so, and they're very confident they're getting it, so then that would be that difference pop back in, so. There's a hard one's really mad for me because I know he's a fantastic player, but just that numbers. No, the numbers are hard. No, I do agree, Baz, I want the hard, but I do agree, the numbers are scary, the numbers are a little bit scary for it. But then, Halley Maguire has just gone for 80 million and he's a centre back. Now, I know he's a good centre back. Decent. 80 million is a lot of it, and I think people just get naturally worried. If ever, I suppose, if they think he's the difference getting them into Europe and stuff, you know, and low and behold, you know, they got in the top four. We got in the top four because of him and got in the group stages. I'm sure the group stages is like 50 million back or something, so I know that's a big. That's quite a jump, of course. But if they look at, I think Chelsea ended up with 29 million from Europa League last year and they'll be won it. But even the group stages is like 15-18. The flip side is for Crystal Palace, they lose a player like that. That would be a massive blow for them and then they could be facing a season where they struggle a little bit. They could, but if you're, and I know what you'll probably say because I'd probably say the same thing, but if you're Crystal Palace and this player wants to go. Now, what the journalist who cloaks at Crystal Palace? I don't know this, I would, I know from the willful. But the journalist cloaks at that. Apparently he was promised after last summer if he stayed for the season, because Spares wanted him last summer. If he stayed for the season and they got an acceptable bid this summer, they would sell him. And now, they must be his brother feeding the things brothers are eating, isn't it? They're saying he feels they've gone back on it because he feels Everton's original offer was good enough, was what they said they'd accept. Once they got 50 million for one besachet, obviously things changed a bit. Well that's another problem now for Palace, isn't it? Losing your biggest up-and-coming start and then the potential to lose your biggest... But why keep an unhappy player again? No, I know, but we've done this though. John Stones wasn't happy, but we kept them. They did that last summer. We didn't keep them the next summer. No, I know, I know. I'm just saying I'm just looking from Palace's point of view. No, I know. If they've lost both of those players and they haven't really bought well at all, is that they could be in a dogfight and if they went down... They're not going to be in a dogfight anyway. No, I know, but that could be the difference in being... It could be. That's insane, that's 70 million for them. Could be staying in the Premier League and that, that, that. They've got a new, the building a new stand, you know. If I was them, I would. Sell. No, only not because it's evident, but I'd be looking and thinking, well hang on. He wanted to go last year and we kept them. But listen, because that money, 70 million, listen, I've just said the money's a bit too much for me. Go on, try and get players in France. There's wingers in France, I think it'd improve everything for a theatre. Maybe the problem is though, the problem with players in elsewhere is the timing, simple as that. Club, those clubs might have been made up. No, I know, but... They thrive on English. But it's timing, isn't it? But it's timing, but then, if it was timing, surely the conversation would be. And I remember thinking this about LeCar, who we both said this about LeCar, who you're going. Just set the price and say, well, if you don't get that, it's done. And if it isn't done by this day, he's not going. For everything, for everything though. As we pub well now, is that they probably have done a lot of work into this transfer already. And want to see that final. Well, of course. If you've got a player who you think and quite clearly, Everton believed that he's the difference maker, right? And they know that he wants to come because why would you be so hard for them otherwise? You will. And it comes down to the thing you asked me at the very start, Which was, if you bid in 70, then why not go to 80? The 10 million quid, it's an idea you know there. So we'll see what happens anyway. We'll see what happens in the next 24 hours or so. You mentioned the Wobby. That's come from absolutely nowhere. 30 million rejected. I mean, 23. Not agitating for a move. Arsenal fans always seem to like him. But I don't think the manager likes him necessarily as a 13 player. I think he's one of those players that I've always thought was a bit like, He's the kind of player that will get a 30 and people still say he's a good young potential player. That's the way I've always looked at him, whether that happens or not. Well, it's that just because of Arsenal. Well, I don't know that I don't think they've ever used him properly or ever given him a good go. I remember. It's good in the night, have it? The day we were on Arsenal fan TV after the game, actually when he beat us at Goddison, and he was absolutely fantastic. And I remember saying that day, that a Wobby was incredible. He was an athlete, dribble, pace. Not really kicked on as much, but then I watched him come on in the Europa League fan. He was brilliant and you're thinking, why didn't he play him in the other kid early on? So he's got a lot of potential. 30 million. The reports are 40 million get your him. Is he better than... Well, let me ask you this. Is he better than Theo Welcott? Would he offer ever more than Welcott? Probably. That's all that they're working on, Andy. Is he better than what we have? And the answer, he can play right side, left side. So he probably is. So that's why he's gone for him. It just seems a bit of a mad one. Well, it is a mad one. It's a mad one when people like Paul Joyce and David Olmstein and another couple are going. This is as well as so ha. Because then you start going, like, are we selling Gilfy Sigurton or are we selling... Or are we just going, you know what? This is wide open this year and we're putting them out here now. And then next summer, like me and you've spoke about before, next summer it's one or two players then and a lot of players are out there. And the rot will be gone. The rot will be gone by actually. And then you're all about good levels. Listen, whether or not ever and go back for him. I don't know, it's a bit of a mad one, but then there's players on that list who we know which haven't popped out yet. It'll be interesting to know if, like, say we got him and we got Saharama. Whether there's a, whether there's a suitor in the background for Walcott. Could be, yeah. Southampton. Why don't Pallas want Walcott and Balashie? If they're looking for wide men, why don't they want that? Walcott's wages I think would still be a problem. But if you said to Walcott, like, these are going to use you. We're not going to play you. Southampton, come and get Walcott. You've just said wages now and now, but they haven't bought that many players. No, we haven't bought. Now and now. It's a bit mad. I just wonder why Pallas wouldn't want Walcott because I don't think they've got anyone like him. I just think right for the Sahar thing just is that there's the whole, there's a, I think definitely there's a commercial element of the Sahar thing. With them? Yeah, definitely. And that's one of the big reasons they don't want to sell them is there's a massive commercial element to them as well. I would imagine nine shats out of 10 would have Sahar on the back of it. And everything goes with that. And you might feel like a Balashie or a... We've just got Cameraser on loan today from Real Betis. He's got, I think, he's got a card, I think, on loan. He's got a year, hasn't he? He's gone on loan to Pallas and he can use him wide as well on all of the records. I don't think he's going to sell many shats though. No, no, but that's the point, isn't he? I'm talking about according to press the luck on the wide player. So then you start thinking then. And the taking. A day making. And the taking Jimmy Mack. Jimmy Mack. So he's going, isn't he? He went in the middle of the night pan on the gun to David O'n Slyth. I don't know what he couldn't just go. He's driving. I don't know what he couldn't just go to him all the time. Maybe it's fun to beat the sapphich. Nobody likes that, don't forget. He's sat in the garage. He did. He did. Listen, at the end of the day it was a bit busy. So that's happening. McHarty, I mean 8 million and Onstein said 3 million. Onstein said 3. It was 8. We apparently rejected it last week. The independence said it's 8.5. Graham Bailey said it's 8.5. And that was today, that was like 11 o'clock this morning after Onstein. So I don't know. It's between 3 and 8. Maybe it's 3 down. Right into 5. If he can run. He is a player who needs to just be told he's part of the team and to play games. And to play games and play games. Although I wouldn't want to be a commentator with them too. McHarty, McArthur. We can shake it 2013. I wonder if they'll delay that sign until after 12 o'clock tomorrow. I don't think he's fitting. So he could play against. Go on, play against. And maybe that's why there's a hardy on drags out after 12 o'clock tomorrow. Just give him us now. If you're going to do it now and just like, don't play him, we'll go alright. And then we'll play him. And then make him captain. So that's happening. That'll be a little bit money in but the wages will be off the... 7.5. That's all good. Okay, the other one is... Chris? Chris Smallan at from Man United on loan. Yeah. Now obviously, do you think we just we just haven't had enough players on remember a few years ago we had we loved the loans, didn't we? Didn't we just missed a few in my life? Let's get a couple on loan as well, it's boss. Well obviously, we're not going to get to you mate. Nope. And they're obviously looking for that another centre back, an experience centre back. We've got Hallgate, Lewis Gibson potentially in the wings. Barman could play centre back but they're obviously looking for an experience player who'll come in and play games as well. And obviously with McGuire going there, it makes sense, especially with the Man United, being a Manchester player as well, he'll live around Everton players in orderly edge and all around that area. So it makes sense to go and ask to see. We tried to get roll call last year. Never happened and we've gone in for him this year. So I know a lot of people are it's just terrible to feel scattered on because we do need a centre back. What do you think about Smalling? I think he's a good defender. I really do. Those I've seen on my time, he's crap, he's the worst player on your life. Do you know when Oleg Olesgaid went in, as manager, he was brilliant. I met him watching the Fulham game and we were going to Warford and it was on in the pub and he put his head in and he's actually got a decent say in a piece. For a squad player, I don't know if I'd want him starting every week, but as a squad player, I'd have no problem with that whatsoever. But that's been turned away. Fairly, I mean, they united a lot of money because you're trying to create that competition at the back. He wouldn't be my first choice, but he's not crap enough. To me, it makes sense. Everton quite clearly want care to me. They want care to me. The manager wants care to me. Care to me, buy all accounts once ever. But he's at a club and they don't want to sell them. Rather than going spend £40 million on another centre back who you're not taking with, care to me, I believe, will be available either at Christmas or next summer because I don't see him long term at Chelsea. I think the minute the doors open and they can buy again, they'll go on trying to get cooler balio, someone like that. And I'm not sure he's going to play anyway with what he's got. Once Rudig is fully fitted and he's got David Lewis and Bill Aquetta Christiansen. I think that's one of those bids that normally doesn't get out. It's like you pick up the phone and you think, you know what, there might be a chance where he might be available. You pick up the phone and go, is he available? And they go, actually he is. You can have him if you want, but at this time they said no. You pick up the phone and you go, right, we need to send it back. Or you get on to an agent. I wouldn't really allow Rojo coming. No. I wouldn't. We don't forget United, the polar plug on that R4 last deadline. We know somebody who works with agents and they are French, aren't they? Basically ring them round, asking people. Meet them with agents, we know. That's some sense for the ring. Agents are asking people with their knowledge. I need this player, can you find me a player? This player fit. Back on the phone. I find you a player, blah blah blah. They are doing the agents work for them and that's what I'll be doing now. I'll be thinking, we need to send it back. Would you take Rojo? I would take him. I know he's rash and people's heads will fall off. Listen, but at the moment we've got we haven't got through it. We've got meaner and keen, you wish we had through it. We've got meaner and keen. I think the sound, keen especially, I think meaner will be really good this year. But after that, like you said before, we've got Mason Holgate who is still we're not sure about that. I think sometimes he looks great and I go he's red. He looks like he's getting in and then put his arm up and someone runs in and it's a goal and you're like mate, come on. That's the point isn't it? But he's got talent as he looks and he does. You hit on the air before, but you know what I mean? He was injured so many times last season. Even if it's half, it's too many. So to have someone like Roho, and I'm not saying that too well, but to have someone like Roho who's an international footballer who's played in the Premier League for three years. He's not amazing, but everything we're going to buy him last summer and you might have pulled a plug or half. Listen, we brought in last year for exactly the same reason. You know, it was supposed to be keen and mean last year. It was, it was, yeah. And because of meaners injury, it ended up being Zoom and I'm looking what happened with that. When we brought Zoom in, there was a lot of people asking questions. He just didn't relegate a bunch of stuff. People were asking, but we were like, well he's a player, he'll go in and we'll have meaners. He looks great and all that. And it turned out, it turned out that thankfully we had it and that's what we need now. I'm a little bit annoyed that we've left this centre because I think this is a position that we shouldn't have left this long. But what I'm saying is, right, I tried to say this before and it's better to say it on here where everyone can put their bit in as well in the comments. But if Zoom is your number one, right, and he's showing it, his leg as well going, I want to come back, right, and there was encouragement from Chelsea and there was all the way until the week after Lampard got in, right, all up until that point. Right, when was that? It's been middle of June. Exactly. But the door still wasn't shut. So what I'm saying is, if the door still isn't closed and Zoom is still going, liking all the evidence, putting boots up with hearts that he wears, and you're going, leave me number one, I want him. So why not go out and get another centre back on loan from somewhere else? Wolves brought that kid in from Real Madrid and I'm not saying I want him because I don't even know anything about him. But that's what I'm saying, just go out and go right for an insurance policy. And listen, for all I know, for all I know, but I'm just going to say, for all I know, Batman's the insurance policy. But then you're taking him out of midfield, he might be great midfield, and then suddenly you've got to play him with the back. But so it's a Moray seems to be the one. For Kyle, a Moray at Chelsea used it, England under 21 captain, he played 30 plus games for Lampard last year at Derby County. Lampard talking about him last year saying, this kid's going to be one of the very best, he's got everything to be right at the very top. Now obviously Lampard is probably looking and going, well I've got David Lewis, Rapa Coster, Christian Sundzume, Rudige, Ashbyl Aquetta can play there, this kid's not going to play. And if a team in the Premier League, like Everton, want to do our work for us, kind of the way I look at Mason Holgate when we were getting them, but it was like, well if he's not going to play for us he's going to care and dull. Care and dull has got potential, but I'd have rather he went to schedule. But if it's going to happen, let's get it done now, then let's get it done by the end of today, so we're not sweating over it because it's a big position. For all the attacking quality we've got, all the attacking quality we're trying to bring in, like you've just said there, if you end up in a season, we started the season, we're keying in Jags. Jags getting us off, then we've got Holgate, then we've got Zume coming in, meaners even knowing it can change very quickly. So if you end up in a situation where where we're scrapping that, where we're aligning Holgate, and like you've just said, he's sticking his arm up, and we've seen him last week, mate. Stickers, he's a look. He's a good player as well. No, I know, but his concentration levels are terrible. The R. He's got the old right back disease. We can't sell him though. He's got the old right back disease. He's buying them one out. I mean he's not. If you do bring him on loan, that gives Lewis Gibson another year to mature, and maybe then he can go out on loan somewhere. Because he's keeping him with the first team training, didn't he? Because he wants them to. And he'll play for the 23s at that time. I don't know whether that's right, maybe he'll do that for the first half of the season, and then they'll look for a short-term loan in January. Who knows, but he's one of, I think he's going to be a cracker for Gibson. He looks like he's got everything. But listen, the one thing I would say, even with agents, mates and blah, this is Marcel Brands, he's been planning it for a long time. So there will be other options. This isn't David Moyes, because this used to happen with Moyes. He'd wake up tomorrow and go, I want three players. Right, get in from your, and the people doing the transfers would be like, why didn't you tell us yesterday? Because we can't get them now, because we're running it, which is why the things like a doubt didn't happen and all that. Let's see what Brands does. People are panicking a little bit because of the seeing names just jump up, the core, it's hard, and all these names suddenly appear. But I think for the main part, he's had that all in control. It's just that you can't be in control of everything, because if a player does not want to sell to you, for whatever reason, then you have to come up with something else. Well, he's done it with the core. We said in May, he'll probably go for the core because he loves some weather, what for the sell, we don't know. It was quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet, bang, bid for the core, then another bid. Now, apparently the second bid, Everton have walked away, because what for the sell, he's not going anywhere. But Palace haven't done that. And that's why Everton are hanging out. With the core though, just quickly, being like, they're not going to sell, and then as soon as Waffa have gone for that winger in France, they had that rejected, then brands might look at the situation and go, they need money. So if they need money, they might sell him. So let's go in and sell. And the encouragement is there for the player. And if it doesn't come off, but I think people get this idea, oh, why don't we bid for him, there's no chance. But if you smell a chance, I think the way that's been thrown around this week is bluffing the water. If you sell it to your chance, you've got to test the water. They might have gone, Waffa might have gone, we'll give us 40, you can have them. And Everton might have gone, we'll have that. They haven't, fair play to them. And this is, as we're finishing, this is what the point is with Palace. Palace haven't said that any point to Everton go away. And that is why that's, so what a lot of the journalists are saying around there is, they just want the right money. It's just good. It's good for Sky. It's good for us, we're alive. In fact, forget Sky, we're alive tomorrow. It's a blue-sky day in here. I mean, I'm not wearing a tightrope. I'll be here later on. I've got to go to Sky, and then I'll come back. Not Sky Sport, I'm not on Sky Sport. I've got to go and do something with Gary and Jamie. I'm matching. But I'll be back. I'll be back. You'll be back and it'll be all, me and the Pivot. That's fine, I'm prepared to be somewhere else. Just finding out what's going on on me getting updates from you guys. That's right. Will you be talking to Gary and Jamie so you won't be able to? What it is? I think Sky has a terrific sign. 80 million is a lot of money. Where are you getting the money from? You're buying that stadium. The King's Dock, isn't he? The King's Dock was listening to you at the radio station this morning and he had Sam on, he said, you're building a stadium. Just buy the live of buildings. That's what he said. He was right next to it, didn't he? He just blacked them, didn't he? Yeah, that crew. Well, the other fella's head is gone. Oh, my God. It will explode one day. How anyone listens to that radio station, it's just... Anyway, come on. Be with us. We'll be live later on on Patreon. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then tomorrow we'll be live on YouTube and Patreon for Deadline Day. All day. All day. I'll be here all day. And all night. All night. So make sure you're here with us as well. Leave your thoughts in the comments on anything we've spoken about. If you haven't subscribed, please do. Please subscribe. It's nice if you do. Give this video a like and join us on Patreon as well. We'll be live later tomorrow. All these things and more. Very much more. Recently. 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