 From Seattle, Washington Extracting the signal from the noise. It's the cube on the ground at Linux con North America 2015 Now here's your host Jeff Frick. I did have a frequent cube alumni Diana Muller the director community development Red Hat OpenShift welcome Well, thank you very much, and I'm so pleased to be here at Linux con. It's just a an awesome event this year They've had some amazing keynote speakers Robin Chase one of my gurus with her peers ink book and Mari from Intel there's just been some amazing women that have been on the stage and just doing great work here So kudos to Linux con for a great conference this year So talk about the vibe because we're here. This is day three. This has been going on for a while But the place is still packed. There's still a lot of action and generally, you know Everybody's there for for day one's usually the big keynote and it kind of spills over But usually by day three people are kind of scooting people are trying to get to the needle or you know one of the museums There's something by day three. We just walked out of a packed session on repeatable processes That Ryan Jarvin and did on showing how to go from source code to darker images and do it all securely with a little bit Of Dan Walsh mixed in to really and every time we put on one of these rooms these rooms are packed It's it's great because you know the keynotes are there in the morning They're wonderful and everybody comes together for that but every single room at this place this time has been packed And it's been really it's been very good for red hat has been amazing for OpenShift And with our new release that just came out at Red Hat Summit about three months ago We've gone, you know to native Docker container support on top of Kubernetes So we're feeding into those communities and they're up streaming into OpenShift right now So we've got a huge powerful base of community Collaboration going on and most of those people are here. So I always joke with my ready I work virtually from home up in Vancouver and I always joke is I come to the events like this so that I can meet Everybody face-to-face and and nail them for more community work that I need to get done So this is a great opportunity for me this and and maybe O'Reilly's Oskon or the two big ones where really the open-source community do come together and here the Linux base Of it is is here and vibrantly involved. So it's great. We don't give yourself enough credit You're at a lot of places. We we first met at OpenStack in Portland a couple years back We saw you last year at OpenStack Silicon Valley, which we'll be back at next week But I think what's interesting is just how open source, you know Linux obviously is kind of the granddaddy of enterprise open source But the open source movement continues to gain momentum it continues to have more and more projects And it really seems to be the model for rapid software innovation truly and I think one of the things Is there many models of open-source? Community development one of the ones that we're bringing to the forefront now is something called OpenShift Commons And that has been enabling us to do all this cross-community collaboration And like there's the Linux Foundation and Apache Foundation and Eclipse and all kinds of other different models as well But one of the things that you're really seeing now is these Breakout projects like Docker and other things that are really getting momentum outside of the foundation model And sometimes they bring it in like with Run-C and the open container initiative Or the cloud-native Foundation, but we at Red Hat We've been pushing another model called Commons in which what we're doing is trying to embrace all of the upstream Projects like Kubernetes and Docker and even Ansible and Puppet and Nginx all of different open source people And this is why I'm on the road all the time because there's so many different There's a lot of them that are all part and parcel of any open-source project And OpenShift sort of sits in the middle of all the service providers that are creating and extending the platform with new things like dashboards and Sungrid and Mailgun and all the different services that people use and consume to build the applications that run on OpenShift And then all of the technology we use in OpenShift like Kubernetes and Docker And then all of the different platforms like you mentioned Oh, you're running on OpenStack and running on any cloud infrastructure or even on bare metal So and then underneath that is things like Linux con You know you have the Linux kernel guys that are helping us secure You know containers and make sure that everything we saw some great stuff from Docker today Or Docker in the keynote the other day about Signing key signing for Docker images and all of those things there it's a multi-threaded Conversation and so what we've tried to do with things like the OpenShift common is bring a place together where all those people can meet And have those conversations and so right now where I think we're right around a hundred and forty different organizations and companies including customers end-users contributors Some of the eight different hosting providers that are using OpenShift to deploy their public but all of those people are coming together and working on all of the technologies not just the OpenShift itself, but The different pieces and parts and that's what's really changing right now I think in open source is that people are admitting that their projects are not closed cathedrals, right? They're not just reinventing the wheel because we need another orchestration tool they're going out and working with other open source projects like Kubernetes or mesos or a bazillion others and finding the best Piece that fits that puzzle and working with that community And I think that's a dynamic that I think in the past year has really been the change in the open source world Is that people are not trying to reinvent and projects aren't? competing in butting heads Trying to draw resources because I need this little CLI written or I need this little piece written They'll go and they'll work with the OS tree or the Etsy D people and bring it all together And we'll contribute back into those code bases It's been huge the change in the evolution and what's going on in the collaboration across communities I I think really this has been the breakout year for it What do you think is driving that is it just because we're all kind of used now to building on The foundation of others and it's an API economy and it's really about being creative and assembling things in new and creative ways And from the application space or is it just a really open source now has got to the point where people see This is the way and whether I have some some stuff outside of the the core open source But this is really the way to get things done quickly efficiently and with great innovation Well, I think as I'm sure dozens of people have said in different ways at this conference and many other conferences Is that everybody has realized that the power of closed? communities is broken right you really have to In order to get enough resources enough brains to work on in solving problems You have to collaborate and you have to reach outside of your insular worlds to do that and Eric Raymond talked about it years ago in his his book the Cathedral and Bazaar, but We saw some monolithic, you know open-source projects happen and fall down because they didn't open up the door and collaborate with the Upstream or the downstream projects that worked with them And I think this this whole attitude has changed it's been a huge flip in that and also mean There's limited resources right so if you're reinventing the wheel or if you're not working directly like say with Docker and putting You're not going to get the things in Docker that you need for your project right so by embedding resources We're sharing knowledge and making sure Docker is super secure and working with with them So that it meets the multi-tenant model that we and the standards that we need to deploy enterprise workloads You couldn't if we tried to build that community ourselves we'd be hooked But instead the power of the open-source community world has brought all of these people to bear And if you think about what Docker hub is basically that's the base QA and testing you could possibly have of anybody's workflow is Is this gonna work? Let's try uploading 10,000 images and see if they work and and some of them frankly have Need patches. They're not totally secure. They're not the best images in the world and so at Red Hat we're doing a lot of work to make sure that Images can be certified and trusted and some of the work that Docker is doing and people from Red Hat are doing to make sure that There's key and signed images and so that those images you're downloading are secure So all of that is is working multiple communities together and playing well with each other because there's no way We could do that ourselves But every coin has two sides right and we are at Docker con is a ton of excitement We're at Spark Summit ton of excitement from the from the corporate CIO's perspective who's trying to make sense of this this world That's evolving at such a crazy pace What do you what do you say when you're out talking to the consumers of this technology that that are in the business of implementing it to Get stuff done not necessarily the business of building companies around it or we're developing it as a core competency because I just see the Challenge in the in the rate of change in the pace of change. It's just bananas. What do you tell them? What's what's good advice? Well come to Red Hat and you know I think that one of the things is we have this breadth and depth of experience from the Linux world of Creating the subscription model having the trusted security making sure that you know the patches and everything we have that model of Business that people trust and I think there's it's going to be a while before some of the smaller newer companies Get to that level of trust and that's why working with Red Hat and helping to build a certified images like we have for containers private registries securing private registries making that making Leveraging the Red Hat know-how on delivering these projects Sharing that knowledge with the across the community Allows people to come and have a trusted source to work with our solution architects and other people To help build out those enterprise things I think CIOs and CTOs trust Red Hat to build things and huge government agencies are working with us and that will remain nameless and Huge education. Yeah lots of lots of three letters And yeah Lots of three letters that would probably get me a lot of trouble for mentioning But and I didn't so Right, so when the you've got the trust of large government agencies and financial institutions Riding on you and you know stock exchanges and things like that all running on rel that same business know-how and to deliver Open source in a secure trusted way With the enterprise backup of support. I think that mom working together That feeds the Red Hat business model, but it also feeds everybody's enterprise models as well nicely So in other words just 1-800 call Red Hat All right, Daniel, thanks for stopping by take it a few minutes out of your busy day. All right. Thank you very much It's good to see you and we'll probably see you next week until the convalescent Absolutely, so thanks for stopping by she's Diana Miller. I'm Jeff Rick. You're watching the queue