 Hi everyone, just to say that this has been recorded, I hope you are okay with this because we're going to share it with other applicants who are interested in the programme in the Centre for Global Media and Communication. I will introduce myself and I'll speak briefly about what we offer and what you expect to do and then take some questions. I apologise beforehand because I didn't prepare any slides but I think I can post some slides that the marketing team can perhaps share with you because we do have slides ready that I can share but I didn't bring them with me today. Welcome, my name is Dina Matar, I'm Professor of Political Communication and Arab Media at the Centre for Global Media and Communication. I am also the convener of the degree, the MA Global Media and Communication. We also have another degree in the Centre which is the MA Media and Development. I'm happy to answer questions about either of these programmes when we come to it. Presumably all of you are interested in studying media and I've just actually purchased a book that I will show you. Hopefully you can see it and I hope you can see me. It's a book that is called Media, Why It Matters. Very, very tiny written by Nick Cauldry who is a Professor of Media and Communication at the LSE, my alma mater. So basically really interesting and I just started reading the first chapter and it says, well, how can we escape from media? So one of the exercises that the LSE does or the LSE colleagues do in their classes is to say, okay, let us try and not live with media for even an hour or half a day. Okay, let's start with half a day, it doesn't work. What about an hour? What does that mean? Meaning that you have to leave your phones aside, you have to leave your screens aside, you have to leave your computers aside, you have to leave your WhatsApp, your Facebooks, any sort of communicative medium. And you just try and live without that. How does that feel? You know, whether you could do that or not is an interesting exercise in itself. And he kind of goes on and he says, what is this thing about our obsession with media? And why, what does it, what do we mean by the question of media deprivation? Okay, so it's worth getting the book and just reading because he does go through different sections where he thinks about what is it we are talking about. So the course in global media, of course, it's a master's degree. So it is a degree where we take you through the key concepts, the key theoretical frameworks within which we can begin to understand why media matter. So and why it is important to understand what media means for us as people, what it means for politics, what it means for economics, what it means for culture, what it means for religion, what it means for history, and every other discipline you could think of and every other area that we are concerned with. And of course, the role of media has become even much more important or its place in our lives and embeddedness in our lives has become much more important with the crisis, different crisis that humanity has gone through and the latest of which is the 19 crisis, and obviously the climate change, but there are different crisis that are rather local that we do not hear about because they are not recorded in the media and this is another question that we try and look at. To think about the inequalities of media, to think about the inequalities of structures, inequalities of access, inequalities in relation to gendered race, racial and other representational practices. As it happens I was listening yesterday to a book talk and the book talk was by an author who wrote a biography of the postcolonial scholar Edward Said. Now Edward Said we come across him quite a lot in postcolonial theory in literary theory we come across him in different ways, but we also come across him in media, because what he was trying to say in his book Orientalism and this you will see why it is important to talk about that in relation to what we are going to study is the question of representation. Media is about representation it's representing it's how people are represented how they are talked about how they are imagined how they are, how they are visualized, and what happens with that you know how do you relate that to the political system and the main issue that comes out of Said's Orientalism is the question that representation. This word representation matters, because it's about the political. What mean we're talking only about political systems what we're talking about here, the political meaning, how we relate to each other how we understand our responsibilities and how do we expect our representatives or our leaders to represent us. So, these are broad issues that we start with. Now let me talk a little bit much more kind of concisely about the MA global media, what do we do in this class. So the MA global media and communication begins with the understanding that when we are talking about media and communication with not only talking about news media. We're not only talking about Facebook or digital media platforms or radio or television. We are actually thinking about community communication and platforms of communication has been diverse. So it can be even the wall behind Laura, you can see that wall behind Laura is a school of Oriental and African study. So as there is a flag there, which I think is a Palestinian flag. There are different things that are there. And so, these are representations, you know, the color, the color matters you know the choice of the color and welcome to this is an important one because it comes up in our logo logo who puts up the Palestinian flag is kind of interesting as well. So in a sense you look at all all platforms and genres within which we communicate in which we communicate or we use for the presentation, or in which we are. I'm talking we I mean people in general are represented. So basically we start with this is that communication is not only reduced to news media. It's every form of communication can be dance, it can be music, it can be any any type of performance, it can be the arts, and it is media. So obviously as we go through through the course you'll find that there is a little bit of bias not bias intentional bias but kind of the readings are much concerned with what people do with social media platforms, digital spaces and so on, because this is really what we are living and what we are dealing with in our everyday lives. And with that, and we, we have three main important thematics that we use to go through the first term, and the thematics are related to how do you understand media without thinking of the economy, the political economy of media, who owns what structures, and so on. So this becomes a very important particularly when we're talking about the global south, you know, Facebook in the global south are the equivalents of that obviously China does have different platforms, there are new platforms that have been produced in in different parts of the world. But what what we find is that the structures of these platforms are very similar. They are based on a relationship between the economics and communication so what we call political economy of communication. So we begin with that. Then we move on to discuss the relationship between media and politics in the broader sense, because this is an area that is so important think about bias think about surveillance. Think about populism, authoritarianism, hate speech. Anything that is about the political broadly understood. And we end with cultural studies. So, cultural studies becomes or understanding media cultures, communicative cultures rather than cultural studies but obviously we are using the concepts and the tools of cultural studies to understand what cultures are. What are we talking about here. We're not talking about cultures as being customs and traditions. We're talking about cultures as ways of life systems of feeling. And within these three big thematics we break down the, you know, we break down the weeks into, you know, specific lectures talking about the key approaches and then trying to critique them, or look at them from the global south perspective. Can we just transport or translate theories and concepts that have been basically that have emerged basically in Western democracies or Western cultures within his specific historical context. Can we transport them to the global south. How can we look at global south India experiences. And how can we look at global south, south cultures and digital cultures. And here it becomes really exciting because you will find that there are differentiations when we say the global south, we don't mean that, you know, it's the global south, meaning Africa, Asia and as being a monolithic space. We look at differentiations within that space. But again, one of the things that we also think about in terms of what is it that we offer at source that is different from elsewhere. It is this idea that our knowledge of the world has been constructed or we have in a particular way that we would be kind of have like the global north and the global south so imagine a map of the world, the maps that you normally see. And you'll find that in this map you have at the top, you'll have the North Americas, Europe, perhaps Russia and a bit of China. And then at the bottom, you'll have Africa, Asia, Latin America, where the Middle East comes in the middle. And this is, you know, some, you know, kind of a naming of the Middle East is problematic in many ways. So what about, you know, what do we expect to learn? What we expect to learn is that what if we invert this map upside down and look at it with the global south coming at the top and the global south at the bottom. Now just imagine that and the way that we would like to build up your critical skills and your thinking, particularly in relation to global media and communication is to try and trouble and to, you know, kind of contest contest all these assumptions that we have about the flow of communication going always from the north to the south, rather than in many directions. Troubling our knowledge about the global south by looking at what the, what the global, what global south peoples do, and we're not talking about the global, you know, and people's just being positioned there but also thinking about the diasporas people who have migrated and so on. So it is the inter interconnections between them. So this is basically what we try and do in the global media program. And the way that it is constructed is we have a compulsory module which you take in term one, and you also take in term two. So this is compulsory you have to do it. There's another compulsory module that you take in term two which is called research methods. And this is really important, because it helps you think about the methodology that you will be using when you're doing your research, your dissertation will be the, the, the main output of this degree, which you will be hopefully very proud of. I think you could show either to employers publish we have had many of our master students actually published their dissertations in books and in journals, and many and some of our students have continued to do their PhDs. So, and then you have to take three other modules in term one and two other modules in turn two, you could take the modules from the center for global media. Or you could take it from center for gender studies or the low department where they are all based, but also you can take it from across the school and this is the beauty of it, you can mix and match depending on your expertise. So the other modules that we offer in in term one are the following. There's one module that is called prejudice bias and misinformation. You know, it's, and it's the convener is Dr. Dunia, she's brilliant scholar she has done a lot of work on that studies in global digital cultures. We think about, again, questions of surveillance digital surveillance counter surveillance questions of, you know, engagement with digital from the global south. We also you can take the media and development program as an option, because it's offered as a module in term one and as a module in turn two. And then you could take in term to you have political international political communication which is a much more focused. There's no kind of module on the relationship between politics and communication looking at propaganda bias, public opinion, media and conflict media and war, foreign policy, and media, etc. So you could also take transnational communities and diasporic communication, which is about diasporas but the interesting thing about it is that it's not only about it looks again into the questions of religion and media and so on. Now, as we go through the classes you will find that you could apply. You know you could think about gender and media you could think about race and media you could think about different aspects of that. In the various weeks that we work with. But one of the important things that we do in the class is that we, you know, we kind of give you the theory but we also have specific readings that are called case studies. Now the importance of case studies is that they do give you the global south perspective. And they are written mostly by scholars from the regions that we study and they look at how do people use media in different ways, while also speaking back to the theory or perhaps introducing new concepts new theoretical backgrounds. Now one of the last things I want to mention is that this degree is interdisciplinary. Okay, there is, you know, somebody comes to tell you that media is a discipline or the study of media is a discipline. Of course it started in sociology and social psychology. That's how it started. And in some parts, like political communication started in politics, but because it kind of draws and builds on different disciplines. I think it is an interdisciplinary or intra discipline. It is very much like gender studies interdisciplinary approach, where again you build up on, you know, you kind of use, you kind of bring in different approaches theoretical approaches to try and understand global concerns. And then finally, you are in the right place, because, you know, whoever talks about the global challenges as being climate change as being, you know, covert as being anything else, populism. There is a very important global challenge. And that is the digital. But it is one of the most pertinent and most pressing concerns. So whichever jobs you want to go into, you know, if you have the grounding in understanding communication, you will be really fine. If you want to ask me where do our students go to after that work I can answer that, but I now have been speaking for 20 minutes and look forward to having your questions. Oh, I can let them in and just say everybody please feel free to unmute yourself and ask questions you should be able to speak and engage in or to pop your questions in the chat if you would rather. Hi, I have a question. Hi. Okay, so the degree is more theoretical than a practical one or it's a combination between theoretical and practical. Okay, when you say practical you mean do we teach you how to do journalism, or how to. Yes. It is implicit in a degree we don't teach you how to do journalism now I'll have to give you my background. I worked, I worked as a journalist for 17 years before I decided to go to academia and do my masters and PhD. Yeah, I tell you, even when I started working in journalism, it is, it cannot be taught. It is by, you know, you practice your practice doing journalism. So one of the things that you will be doing that there is one course that you could take which is called podcasting, which is in turn to, but you could do several things. One is to engage in writing blogs, because that's a way of writing. Secondly, we, we do get the opportunities for some internships and we support that. And thirdly, we do have we do have some contacts with with the industry. But the most important thing and we find that happens to many of our students many of them end up going to work with the media. Okay, so some go and work with the UN UN agencies NGOs and so on some go to government some go to teaching something and continue to work in some go to PR agencies. But we have, we have a substantial number that have ended up ended up working in communication related areas. Because one of the important thing of doing the degrees to understand how to interpret how to how to ask the right questions. And this is what journalism is about, you know, if you are able to ask the right questions if you are able to think about which questions to ask and who to approach and who to choose to ask questions from, then that is that is a journalism in practice. In short answer to your question, we do not offer practice. If you want to do practice, you know, there are universities such as city university that offers degrees in journalism. Okay, and I taught that so I know exactly what what is being offered. But it's, you know, it is a we don't we don't do that so as so as is a place where you come to, you know, do your critical thinking you do have a very distinctive degree that is very well regarded in different parts of the world. And if you do well, you will really get to places very easily. Okay, thank you. And you mentioned as I remember the political communication so it's part from the degree or it's a separate one that we can. It's part of it's part of the degree it's a module that you take as part of the degree and if you want to take it. It's an option so it is offered in turn to. And it is really quite, you know, it's a course that I've designed and obviously that's my specialization so in terms of the academic specialization so it's really and a very interesting class. We have students coming from different parts and in all our classes as in all our classes. I also teach a course on the Middle East for if anyone is from the Middle East, which is called mediated cultures of the Middle East politics and communication in turn to. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, so it's basically, you know, encourage you to speak to other students if you want to speak to our current students or some of our alumni and see what you could get up the course but yeah. Yeah, I will be happy because I learned the diversity English literature and political science so. Oh, great. Yeah, yeah, that's a great combination. Yeah, and I'm from the Middle East. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Any other questions. Do ask I mean it's. Are the degrees more suitable for mid career journalists were fresh graduates do you get many mature students could you talk about the kind of an offline version of the global media and digital cultures program. Are you talking. Okay, so so now thank you so much for the question. I'll answer each one. So are the degrees more suitable for mid career journalists or fresh graduates. Either we have a combination of both we've had people who have had maybe even 15 years of journalist background coming to do the degree because it's exactly what happened to me. And which is that you know you realize after a long time working as a journalist you realize that there's something missing in in the narratives or the stories that. Right, and it's not anything against them. It's, you know, the type of the job you have a fast paced real time information that you have to produce. But one of the things that I found very, you know that I needed to kind of help myself understand was the context you know the background. Why do people, why do people fight for, you know, why do people, why are people ready to kill themselves in a war that doesn't mean it seemed to make sense, for example. So I found that by by doing I did my masters in political science and then by doing my PhD media and communication I was able to really begin to look at other questions that I didn't see in my career as a journalist. So, and we have many chance to join us who want to do the same thing and it's really exciting because the other thing that I want to say is that academia you know academics, like myself and scholars. We write stories in different ways we are writing stories but we are writing interpretations of the world in a particular way with a particular language and journalists right as well. So in a sense you are doing the same job with a different perspective, perhaps more and more analytical when you are looking using an academic voice. So, so it becomes interesting so in a sense you look, you look at when you are working as a journalist you feel you're on top of the world you know nobody knows anything, apart from yourself. But then when you, you begin to have questions you go to academia and you realize that academia's main concern is to attack journalists. So it was a type this type of constant battle that goes on between, you know, academics, kind of obsessing with the media and you know criticizing it and then the media obsessing about academics and criticizing them for the language that they use and for that they represent the world. So it's about knowledge it's about how do you produce knowledge you know what type of knowledge is is credible and so on so knowledge production is at the center of academic learning and critical skills. We do get many mature students. So it's rather nice to have them, because they do bring in a different much more a different perspective which, which is, and so you have the combination of both. I remember I was immature student as well. And it was really great fun because coming fresh as a fresh graduate, as opposed to a mature student to experiences and expectations are different. But what we try and do and this is why our classes are not huge. You know, we normally have the cohort is normally around 4040 students. So we do have access to each student and we begin to understand and work with them to meet their expectations and to help them achieve the learning outcomes that we put on our programs. And that is, you know, that that is, that is helpful. So when you have the combination of the mature and the graduate, you will find the interaction in the classroom is is quite exciting in in different ways. And then do you have an offline version of the global media and digital cultures program. I think you are asking about the distance learning program. And that is, yes, the global media and communication class that I'm talking about is the class that we offered offline, which we offer on campus. Okay, so it's a one year program. If you have a part time student they can take it over two years. So that is allowed as well. So the programs are very similar in terms of the, you know, the structure. But the online one the distance learning one is geared towards those students who cannot are working full time, who cannot come to London for different reasons. And they need to be able to do that learning over a two year period. So the distance learning is a two year program where they take only four modules so, and then they do the dissertation as well. So it's slightly different in terms of the structure, but in terms of content, it is the same. I have a question about attributes and characteristics are so as looking forward from students who may be considering this kind of degree. Well, first of all, you know, you've got, you've got the requirements of the degree, which is a high two to order to one. It means from any discipline. So it can be from the humanities or from the social sciences. We have students who come from a business background, and we have students who come from a science background. I myself started as a science student. So it just doesn't matter. But what, what attributes we look, you know, when you are writing your application. Do tell us in your personal statement. What is it that makes you interested in studying media. So you can, yeah, you can, you can think about, okay, so the attributes are, okay, so you obviously want to study to study the course for a particular reason, whether it's reason to improve in your working environment, whether to get to have a new career, or whether it is to understand the role of media and society. Perhaps you are, you know, kind of worrying about a particular aspect of media, maybe the echo chambers, maybe you are worrying about, you know, the political systems, populism, and maybe you're worried about racism and media. Maybe you're worried about gender, you know, representations of gender, and other identities. So, write about that, you know, be open and say, this is, you know, this is what I'd like to do for those students who want to do media and development, maybe you want to understand, okay, what is this development we are talking about, you know, what do we mean by media and development. The fact that you have all these NGOs, and so on, going to the so-called developed, underdeveloped or developing world, trying to help, to help the communities, according to the mission statements. So, what type of, what type of development, whose development is it? Are we all trying to think of development in terms of moving towards democratization as in the Western world? How do we look at that? How can we critique it? How are communities in the global south represented? We have a huge amount of programs around hunger, around migration, around conflict, and we do have a lot of productions made. And the critique of that saying, you know, why do we need the white Western humanitarian personality to come and save, save us, or save, let us say, quote unquote, women in Afghanistan or somewhere else. So all these questions come up, you know, we think about them, we kind of, you will find by the end of the degrees here at SOAS, and this is something I'm not making up. It's from our students. They say, you know, we now never watch a television program in the same way that used to. You know, we're sitting there trying to criticize the way that, you know, who is being asked the question, who is asking the question, the framing of the questions by the journalists, the whole debate, or who is structuring the debate. How does that relate to politics? You know, who is trying to set the agenda? So you begin to ask the question, even if you're watching your film, you begin to ask these questions. And it's so exciting because this is what we call critical skills, because critical skills are needed in every job you will be doing. Thanks, Laura, for putting up the, yeah, the link to the distance learning program. Any other questions? Hi, Lea. Yeah, hi. So the duration of the MA degree is going to be two years or one year? Well, it depends on you. Most of the students do it one year. But if you want to take it over two years, then you are welcome to do that. Okay, including the C statement, do you mean for when I wanted to write the thesis? Yes, yes. So, so let us say you're doing a one year, you started at the end of September, you know, you start at the end of September of any given year. Yeah, then you finish all the teaching components by the end of March. Wow, okay. It is very, you know, it is very intensive, you mean. All the master's degrees, all our master's degrees are similar, you know, your finish in, yeah. It feels, it doesn't feel that intensive, I must say, because you'll find that if you organize and, you know, we, and your academic advisor and, you know, the program director and the convener will help you structure your week and your time. You have offered all sorts of support that you need in terms of writing your essays and finishing everything on time. But you finish the teaching but then you finish all your coursework in the beginning of May. And that leaves time for you to write your dissertation. You begin to think about your dissertation, your thesis in at the end of December or January of each year of each academic year. And you talk to your chosen supervisor, you have meetings with them all through the summer until you finish writing and you submitted in September. So this is the whole year. If you're doing it over two years, you do half the number of taught classes in year one. And the other half in year two and your dissertation will be at the end, you know, in beginning in May of the second year, where you submitted in September of two years. Okay, so all the master degrees last day just one year in, in UK because here in Palestine we're used to submit thesis statement at the end of the second year. Yeah, I know, I know it's different man, Palestine, you know, is what you, you know, it's, you could, you could take it over two years and actually your fees will be half the fees for each of that year so it depends on you. Okay, it depends on how you want to do it but but know that we do it in one year. And that's because we have most of our students are international students and they, you know, they take, and you know they want to take a year out to finish the masters and begin work. So, but yeah, it depends on you. Okay, thanks. Thank you. Now Richard, what, what books or resources. Could you type of careers so now. Yeah, type of careers. Journalism. You go into journalism, you go into UN work, you go into charities, you go into NGOs, you go into any civil service. And so these are the careers that you can pursue. We have a very efficient careers service department where they have career fairs where you attend and you go and you kind of network with, you know, companies and, you know, employers and so on, and you find what you want to do so I have I have, for example, an Iranian student who really managed to get onto a very prestigious Iranian new Iranian news agency reporting from London so she stayed in London. But now she wants to do a PhD as well so there are all sorts of all sorts of these possibilities. And then in preparation for the course Richard. Can you send me an email and I'll send you a list because I think one of the key books that you might want to read is a book called media and power. Because I forgot to mention the key point that we want to talk about a kind of underlines everything we talk about is the power of the media. We all think media are powerful, you know, even though we would like not to think so. We all assume media are powerful. And because we think that media can influence public opinion and can influence how international relations are talked about it can influence the way that some people are represented in a particular way. The layout is from Palestine and I'm Palestinian so you know the representation of minorities disadvantage marginalized groups does matter. Because it does matter for for different reasons and it's important to understand the role of media in that. So what underpins everything is media and power so the book that you might want to read in preparation is a book called media and power. James Karen, and you will find it on Google, you know it's it's available as PDF on Google you can read it at your letter and and you know see what you could take away from it. It is written by Western scholar, but but the good thing about it is that it gives you, you know, the background to understanding media theory. And there are many other books around globalization and media because we do start the course with with the with the language of globalization, because we're talking about global media. We're talking about the Netflix is we're not talking about the Amazons we're talking about the, you know, Instagrams. We're talking about the we chats from China and different other transnational and international and global media platforms. Does the course include internship work experience as I explained you know the career services will. workshops and events where you will be invited for internships so we've had someone a friend of mine from intern news which is a well known news agency that is. I think it's based in Germany somewhere. He sent an email saying we need some of your students to apply for internships, because we need someone who has the experience of the global self to work with us as an intern. Richard, it's better if you send by email to me and I'll write my email here. Yes, that's my email Laura. Thank you for writing that it's better if you write to me by email and I'll send you some readings. This is the media element to the program. Everything is social media yeah so we are. This year we have because of the covert we have been having our lectures on zoom, but then we've had the classes on campus and some people were not able to come on zoom. But what do what do we mean by a social, you know, social media element to the program. We have a blog. And we invite you all and invite our students to write on that blog. And we also encourage students to tweet and use their Instagram to talk about that. But I think most importantly we encourage students to have their own WhatsApp group, so that they can communicate amongst themselves on the WhatsApp we will have a student representative kind of be taking the concerns of the class to the class leader to the teacher module leader. And then, you know, we can we can deal with that. So in a sense, social media is used in different ways and we use it in our case studies because what we are looking at to try and understand what's happening in social media we look at the text of the language we are looking at the distribution we look at the recirculation of some messages, we analyze hashtags. What do they mean, you know, we currently have a campaign called at black lives matter which you all know about, you know, what does it mean, you know the language of the campaign is quite interesting. We think about the effect and emotion. So if you look for in references, do they need to be academic, they can be both. They can be professional and they can be academic in terms of references so if you have a very good reference, you've been working as a journalist. That would be also acceptable. And if you have any problems just send me an email and let me know. Any other questions please. So we are very passionate about what we do. And you will see. Okay, so I forgot to mention something else. In addition to giving you classes and so on and you know kind of helping you. We have office hours where you come and you know talk about anything we have a very rigid academic advising system. And as part of our Center for global media and communication offerings, we have a research seminar every every other week because one week we do Center for gender studies and the other one we do Center for global media and communication. And this research seminar we invite scholars who have been who are working you know who have a contribution to make and that will make sense to you or relating to your, to your degree. And we all can bring journalists, we can bring filmmakers to speak at these at these events. So a chance for you to network. And a chance for you to understand how to apply theory in practice. How do you how do you how do these people how do they, how did they manage to take a conceptual framework a theory and then applied it to a particular case study. We also present our work because we are not only teaching, we are also doing research at the same time as teaching. So we can present our work we can talk about, you know, the latest article or book chapter or book maybe we have been working on, and we invite you all to come to that it's great fun one taking place tomorrow Thursday at five to 7pm when we have a colleague coming from Westminster University. And he's going to talk about a term called after ecology and understanding African media. So, looking for I, you know, I think he comes from Zimbabwe so it's very interesting to hear what he has to say on this topic. And a lot of stuff we also have one of our former master students who finished last year and he's a distinction student he's done really well. He's going to talk about his dissertation as a master student. What he wrote about the, the Chilean media, the legacy media in Chile, and the activism I mean Chile has been going to go. And going through a series of, of protests. And so, instead of looking at how people are using digital media he decided to look at the legacy press, meaning the long standing newspapers that do have a connection with the power elite. You know that the political elite and the media elite have been working closely together so we're looking forward to his paper and it will be in two weeks time. Thank you Laura that's really very kind of you to put the details of the event tomorrow. Please do come you're most welcome I'll be chairing we're going to do it by zoom so you can join us it's at 5pm London time. I know for you in Palestine layout it's like seven I think, late. Yeah, but we have other events that you could come to all through the week from other departments so. I am, I am, I work with the so as Middle East Institute and we have events every Tuesday for those people who want to learn more about the Middle East, we have a China Institute and they have events taking place all the time. And yeah I have answered all the questions. Any other questions from anyone else. Yes, I have one. Okay, so, as you, as I say the island English literature and political sciences so and I'm thinking to do a master degrees in international relations. Or political science, something like that there is a combination between politics and international relations so my question is a which master degree would be more suitable a global communication or international relation if I want to work in the field of journalism. I think the global media would be better for you in the sense. So my answer to you is that you could take the global media as a degree, and then you could take some options, your modules from international relations and politics, and the diplomacy department, but you could do the other way around. So, yeah, check it. I'm thinking, for example, to take politics and international relation and choose, for example, a political communication or something that relates to, you could do that, you could do that either way is fine. It'll be good to have you as a student either ways or whether you want to, to be the global media and communication or whether you want to take the, the, the MSc in politics and international relations. You're most welcome. Anyway, thank you. But just check and see which one you'd rather take you know sort of which one is going to suit your, your needs further on, as you. Okay, so I'm going to see whether anyone else has any questions but it doesn't seem to be but what do you think, Laura. No, I think we can wrap up I think most of the questions and have been answered and your emails in the chat and people are very welcome to get in touch with us if they would like any general information about applying. The only final thing to say is that there is a student and alumni panel taking place at two o'clock, which you should have the zoom details for. So if you want to hear from our alumni and to hear about their experiences, perhaps which careers and fields they've gone on to, then that might be useful. But I think we're fine to wrap up and finish there, Dina. Thank you so much Laura and thank you for your help and thank you all for coming. Look forward to seeing you do apply. Come and join us. Take care everybody. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you. Bye bye.