 Really going down Yeah, we gonna talk we gonna have fun. We'll be on fire. We'll be lately. It's a unique husband big shit Big shit big shit, huh? It's a unique hustle nigga big shit big shit big shit, huh? Name another podcast like this. Check it check it check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy e ceo And I'm here with the lovely official mr. Mako. What's going on man? What's going on? I'm in the house This hat on man No, I ain't never had a line like this Me he's trying to come I had mine on first then all of a sudden he came out Check it man. I went in the closet and this what I found it went with the crowns 10 check it man We got our D in the building 300 man. We hear man. Thank you so much man for coming man Family man. Hey, man, I ain't gonna lie to you man Well, I got upset when I seen you on that with Kiki and you ain't done. Yeah, I didn't like that at all You didn't like that cause you supposed to come over here first. I don't care. Nobody Care about man So what's up with you man? Everything what brought this what brought this whole thing on man. I see us wearing the crowns T-shirts today. Oh beautiful We did this for you. Yes, and I'm overwhelmed by that like really overwhelmed just to see and then your daughter the whole family You know, I'm real don't do that. Say that for the end because that's tears You know, you don't want me to go into that, you know, cuz I just that's just real Yeah Oh your work camera, right? Yeah These crowns here is the one so just to see this in this kind of way man, I really appreciate y'all This is it's it's really don't do it right now because you're gonna have me really like You know, and I already got to go to a wedding late on so I'm gonna be well I just I think we need to set the bar and I think that's what that's why Thinking like that like we got so love on another level and because you be in the streets You be really out here doing yours and hand-to-hand, you know Getting it out there and and I see you in Houston and I really wasn't jealous. I was proud more than anything I'm like my voice he's back on another run. So I got to get it tapped in Thank you. Thank you key keys. He's family. So all it is all it is everything that I'm able to do in this It's just it's family. Yeah all the way around is everywhere. I go everybody that I deal with it's genuine And it's it's it's actually fun to be on this journey Yeah meeting and having the kind of experiences that I have with the people that I have because It it's just organic and it's all just genuine Hey, man, I go and it's you know, what good, you know I'm just going and doing it and it's just a blessing that I'm able to to do this and sustain myself and to have success You know, what was what when it talks about crown team? What was different about this album than the rest the one that you've already done before this? Um somebody I was talking to somebody about that actually a few days ago and it was like Man, I'm so tuned that somebody was telling me like I'm so tuned into your story. I'm trying to see what's next I'm trying to they caught into the the audio of like everything that I've been doing and where I'm at right now They just want to know where you at the the audio is gonna tell you exactly what's happening at this moment and I'm just excited that people care, you know, yeah care enough to spend what they spend on it that's like it's It's unheard of that somebody would pay you fifty five dollars for some music or twenty five dollars for some music It's not happening. You know, I can tell you right now. I'm getting my two or three today. Oh, man For sure. Yeah. Yeah, I'm buying mine today. That's what I'm gonna let y'all know boss talk Don't do we show up and show out every time and you know, oh That's my guy right there always support. He's another one. He told me Hills is coming He's like they sold out so you didn't give one. I said what He sold out They sell out and then you always have to keep about 20 or so for people that You know the games that happen sometime with ups post out They'd be some games sometimes and you know, you got to have just a you know a little bit But they go how many did you have produced? 1000 1000 and they went that fast. Yeah, wow But that's but when I seen it and I seen the layout of it, man Did you bring it? Let's see. Let's get that lay out man. Okay. No problem. I know. Yeah There it is right there guys. I got to see that. Let me show it up to the camera. Oh man. That's dope man. Always I love the box Oh You got all kind of good is in there and of course we never re-up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, let me to the addition Always we never re-up when it when the album is done. So we got what you've got the lighter. Yeah We got some cards. Yes. Let me see how many cards do I look where the cards is from as you can see Ah, and I didn't think of that Yeah, the picture He put on there Selected that I just sent a gang of pictures and they selected that and made that the car Wow That's what I'm saying. You part of the gym. That's it man. I can't believe it man So you talking about like man ended out and they just Well, you gotta think about it like I said when we seen you and we seen you making another run for it It was like we got to get on on board. Yeah, so I was like, baby. We got to get on boy We got to get them on here. We got to do this man. I get excited man You know what I'm saying cuz you've been genuine man. You stayed on the phone I was with me Educating me on certain things that I wasn't aware of really some of the questions that I asked now You even gave me the Michael Jackson thing to play with I'm taking that to California, Atlanta Atlanta and Vegas I've asked those Say they you know the other day a friend of mine With no knowledge of what I had already been saying about the you know that And I love Michael Jackson by the way. I want everybody to know that but um Yeah, so he kind of put it out there. Shout out my boy Berna. He put it out there and it was like Just on his own a man Nobody could beat Michael Jackson in the verses and all of that and I'm like here we go again and I tried to or or I Forgot how he started on it, but he was just saying and I'm like Bro, they don't even play Michael Jackson at the at the barbecue no more at the family reunion and all that and y'all know that and it's been like And it's been like and it's been like Not on crown Kelly at the family reunion At the barbecue depends on which barbecue. Who's barbecue? They plan something right step is getting played, right? Yeah What else I Played at the barbecue or Kelly What else Osley brothers And Franky Frank is gonna get played, you know, so when we think about all of the great music that gets played We must we must contend with the fact. Yeah that Mr. Michael Jackson Hasn't hasn't made a family reunion Since you know, you didn't take the CD out of here. I did I did I need to see it. I didn't get to see it Yeah, these things on CD is on this. I can never say what this is. What's it? Drive so you get a CD and a flash drive the CD and the flash drive and it's the total experience So how many more crowns are you deciding to do? Okay, this is crowns hand. What are you gonna stop and you retire the crowns? You know, I had retired the crown it was crown seven was the first box set That it that I that we did was supposed to be the the end of the crowns or whatever And I did two albums after that But why did you decide to come back with it and not just name it something else? I named the other two albums something else for better or worse and rather rich than famous Okay, so I come back with a crowns popular demand them people them people like the everything that goes into what makes a crowns album There's elements to it if you if you especially if you go back to the first one and didn't go all the way up today You'll know what it is that makes a crowns album whether just the different elements whether it be this is a story You're telling from it's always it's always that joins together it's the authenticity of the story, but it's also the The elements like whether it be the gospel choir whether it be just different stuff that Lee does to it is being made in a specific way and It's just after you done it. I just know what a crowns album sounds like I just know what who is these lovely ladies on the on the on the front actually My mom and my aunt okay, and they You know my mom is past my my aunt is on there Okay, and it's just Old picture that I found them in the choir Wow I forgot how I came across the picture with the dope So you know I take personal things and try to show that pitch and put that on the cover You know yeah my aunt Sandra my mom which one's your mom my mom right over here to the right for on the right right there Right there, and that's my aunt Sandra. Okay, my grandma. She's in the back back there So you must have gotten your complexion from your daddy. Yeah, cuz he mama dog. Hey, I'm a mama dog My dad light I look like my grandma and my my dad and I look like everybody over there Okay, what did you get from your mama? What did you get from your mama? My love for music. Well, you know her and my dad Definitely big love for music, but definitely my mother's heart for sure like in rage anger, you know How old were you when you lost her? Now it's when I came home and see that's what I'm saying these crowns tell this story Oh My first year out Okay, so you had her for a very long time. I had her but I was gone for a long time But wait but God gave him a clearance to when she didn't go nowhere till he came home, right? Yeah, and that's the cold part, you know people don't look at things from that perspective, you know And I was there when she transitioned here in Dallas. Wow. I had my hands on them I'm gonna tell you something. Oh, it was a place. It wasn't a hospital. It was like hospice Yeah, okay know you and um, I had the opportunity to have my hands on the CD back when she when she when she passed and that's Bro, that's a blessing man. That's a beautiful thing. I wish more people would Would treat that with the reverence that they should treat it cuz man like being With like having your hands and having the opportunity to pray on your mom like as you know She's making transition or whatever that was dope like it was dope And I would love to be surrounded by loved ones when I'm headed out the door and And my children can have any hands on me praying for me and send me out. You saw the closure You know what I mean? Yeah, but you know the funny thing is that in Life a lot of us human beings will never be satisfied no matter what it is People don't look at certain blessings just like I've always been raised where people say, you know If I die I want to die in my sleep because I don't want to you know, have any pain So people say that and when my father passed away, he passed away in his sleep but my mom still sort of kind of had some feelings towards that because she was There beside him when you know, sometimes when you sleep and you dream it So you sort of like shaking a little bit and stuff like that. So she said he was doing that and she said to him Baby wake up wake up, you know, because she thought he was just having a dream And when she turned over she realized that It's like he was gasping for air and he was going off in his sleep So a lot of people say I want to go off in my sleep But is that how you normally go off in your sleep or do you just sleep off? Nobody really just knows if you just you know, cuz like I tell her at least he went off in his sleep But she said she don't know if he was calling her pain pain or something like that So we as human beings always find something within that you think you'd find comfort to know that he went off in sleep I'm Muslim. So it's we are taught that the day that you're going is going to be just like any other day and But it's your last day and It said in the Quran that when When they send the angels to remove their soul from that body Those who have inherited paradise. They say that it is like pouring water out of glass. That's how easy the spirit leaves the body like water out of glass and it said that if if Maybe the the answer is not the right answer then it's a struggle for the because it's the ratchet and out of the Removal of the soul that causes there to be some some fight, but um, yeah, I'm just one of those that I Don't I live Like today is just as good a day as them are if it's today, it's cool with me, you know Cuz he ain't gonna do it unless it's time And when it if it's if today is the day is just as good day is trying to put it out for a hundred years, but We're also taught to That a long life is preferable to a short one because it give you More opportunities to do good deeds and that's the blessing of a long life is that you can affect people in positive ways But outside of that if he say today today, it's cool. Even in a short life I'm feel so he's take me field Take take and when I'm filled up and it's good Yeah, right then and there when I know I done pleased you good enough I posted something the other day and I said treat every day like it's your last and people always run with that Statement as in I'm gonna spend all this money. I'm gonna do this I'm gonna do I'm like I'm not talking about materialistic Things treat it like it's your last like, you know, your soul depends on it. You know what I'm understanding It's it's there's it's Justin. It's down to a my new Portion of people that even have an understanding like that Like I keep looking at the ones and this is what I'm saying. This is what my music is This is what they do. They think they tune in and hear me kill them up everybody But as as I just be real and oh, yeah, they know they like man This is something else that they get in and it's sometimes it's not easy to explain But coming from me they more accepting of some some things Spiritual understanding they ain't got it. Yeah Ministering your music and yeah, and it's the reason like how they looking at things that happen to me as if I'm so thrilled to make it happen But I'm not thinking of our product. This is what I was just I had a lunch with a Friend of my my homeboy slim on Friday. We eat it eat together every Friday after service or whatever and Inside of the conversation we was talking about The way I'm gonna tell you the way people are really like there are people who are surprised When they friends cross them, right? They friends do something Damn, and they they they say like how could this person had done this after all I had done for them or whatever Well, I'm the person who prioritizes God and After doing that, I don't worry about no relationship All my relationships is solid. I don't have the friend betrayal story. Yeah, I don't have it my best friend I got still got the same best friend from The age of 13 years old like serious everybody that I meet they coming. It's always all good That's never my problem And I know that it comes as a result of prioritizing that relationship But when you don't prioritize that relationship then somebody that you do prioritize That's gonna be the one the question even when you prioritize that relationship The devil is always gonna find different means and ways of how to come at you Yeah, maybe not through your friends, but a different way. He always You struggle with once right, but once you know what it is Because then when a person comes at you could be a stranger comes at you in a wrong way And you could have been having a bad day If you can realize that it's not that person who's coming at you It's the devil using them to come at you then you know how to battle it a lot of times people don't see things in the spiritual like what you say and They think it's that person and then start fight trying to fight that person when it's Everyday keeps you aware of what's happening when people don't have a Consistent a regular prayer routine Then you get took off guard and then you have to try to decipher with your mind What is happening and sometimes you're gonna get the wrong answer exactly doing it like that Well, let me ask you a question. We're gonna get into Some different things that's been going on in This world. Okay. Yeah Nas X he was pregnant last week a week before last I'm asking these questions because they're consistent to what's going on Nas X was pregnant and Before that for those who don't know who little Nas X is which majority people do it's a male. Yeah Yeah, so I was just trying to get your little okay, exactly little Nas X is not very talented musically so because there I'm just being frank he he Doesn't have music that there are other people who are homosexual whether they be male or female in the music industry Frank Ocean Sam Sam But their talent level is High enough that I'm they create music that we enjoy so they don't gotta put on no dress I act pregnant and all of this type of shit with with him My thinking is that he has to create controversy to bring attention to the music Because is we don't have no you're not making no music that they're listening to and even if they don't listen to music People are not listen they're just sharing Because they're outraged at what they see they're sharing it and not realizing that the more you share it and more you talk about it He's making money off of you or more outrage from a small group Leads to big conversations between a lot of indifferent because I don't care, you know Well, let me because the reason I mean by me understanding it from a musical Promotion angle, it's like oh, he's doing this right because I know that if your focus was the love for your music You wouldn't be doing it. Exactly. You will be doing it You think there's a hidden hidden agenda behind what he does for us to influence like Boosie was on the breakfast club and he was like You know that they're trying to influence our children through these different avenues for entertainment I have said this consistently since I this has always been it's not it's not today I was telling I've told this story many times that Imprisoned that on Ramsey unit when I was going to get my You know get my degree in business management associates degree. They got they got through Alvin Community College Shout out Alvin Community College. Okay, um they also had a bachelor and master's program through U of H and You get your masters in What is it liberal arts, right and in liberal arts a Liberal arts degree the program you read in a lot of the world's greatest literature, right? the highest form of art of literature of as Sad about as put out there by Europeans is homosexual act is so as they done got off into What's happening over here in America the higher you want to go in the arts? Whether it be media is art as well Music is an art Film is an art Actual paintings the higher you want to go writing the higher you want to go those themes are The ones that's the most coveted and those are the ones that the most resources Flow to mm-hmm It's been that way. Okay, so when when you have the prince princes of the world Michael Jackson's of the world To the little Nas X's of the world the higher and the most attention is paid and there's more money pressed into those embodiments and characters individuals that present themselves men in particular black men who's the symbol of strength and masculinity and all that And though in that kind of a in that mode. That's compelling. That's something to look at Just to pose that next to the fact that Tom Cruise never had to do that Jason Statham never Liam Neeson Steven cigar their actors And people in there now they've got rock stars that have you know told the line between You know looking male or looking female or whatever, but for the most part They don't have to do you have some actors who actually you know dressed up like Martin Lawrence That's black. He's talking about the white. Yeah, let's let's go away from let's go away from our comedians Which they've done like that forever. What about our sports? Athletes like Russell Wilson exactly Russell Westbrook was just wearing a dress and people are like But guess what there is a long history in the NBA of people from Charles Barkley to Larry Johnson to Shaq even LeBron James has worn You know dressed, you know like flow But whenever you go to other countries other than the United States a lot of those places is accepted You know all of that was accepted in Europe way longer than before The acceptance of it is cool. But what is the allure with heterosexual black men Being perceived in as women. Why is that like why why does the most? Charles Barkley was a vicious basketball player. So was Shaq. So was Larry Johnson. So is Russell Wilson So is LeBron James. Why do why do we have to have our? strongest most masculine Influential our greatest players Why do they have to be seen like that? What's the guy we got? Gabrielle Union's husband. He's He's embracing that whole gamut from a 12 year old standard. So yeah, but but a 12 year old Little girl can't consent to have sex with anyone But if you think about it before that even happened and everybody started coming out about that I remember articles. I think it was that came out about Little kids should choose whatever they want to play with it The boy wanted to play with a doll. He should be able to play with a dog and it was a white Woman who came out with that about her son before all of this other stuff At least you talking about somebody that'll eat a booger. This is what kids do But at least you talking about a kid who will eat a sugar sandwich. Yeah, but I supposed to listen to you They were just saying it's the freedom Her son was painting his finger one of the paintings fingernails and she was like he said I would do it But everybody will be looking at me different and and she said a nerve of everybody Judging her son and why would why would they even you know? Why why would he have to feel that way? It's like she was ranting about the fact This was a few years back and it just tripped me out. How you know first thing I thought was where is a What's a Swiss beast? Where's where's the dad at when he's doing this? Is he is he there to be able to Yeah, talk to him and show him why you know how men respond versus how His wife responds. I was kind of throwed by that when I first, you know, all of these themes and think these topics that we're discussing These are recurring topics in the crown series. Okay real life This is it's always because this is I'm being I'm reality Yeah, the media and I'm being influenced. I'm seeing this too. I'm I'm like damn these these people is like Bro, like I ain't gonna lie. I was throwed off by Russell Westbrook, man. Yeah, Russell I understand like leaning that way in fact, but what's the Westbrook is like the epitome of like Matt black masculinity though. He has warrants. He's had some fashion hell of a fashion choice yesterday the other day I was looking at the risk the responses under the picture the comments under his post and His wife is on there. She she put the heart to what not and It's it's all of these people very disappointed in the fact that that you you know, Yoha It's in it in some way gain more fans too from another sector people who agree with that Opportunities, I think right and that's why people do it They are doing it because they know they'll lose some fans, but they're gonna gain way more But bear with me on this Thought that I have during this whole conversation Because I always know that when we deal with things you have to look at a bigger picture Okay, they're all to your motives from because when I think about the government I think about social media because that's where everybody putting these images out on social media for all of us to comment on when we put certain things I see people being blocked on YouTube on On Instagram Facebook all of that was different things okay for different things for sure But for these things that they're putting out nobody's blocking them for these things. Yes, people Yes, people are commenting in all different ways, but Instagram Facebook Twitter all of that as much as we have Freedom of speech. We really don't wear social media is constant because that was the case. They wouldn't block anybody So to say But what I'm saying what when I say that Is it like go back to Nas X with him showing that pregnancy and whatever because he's opening up that discussion It do you think is a case where? Scientists may sometime down the line have tried to figure out how to do they've already had a male carry Someone who it was a female. I'm pretty sure we could Google it. There was a female who? became a male Through surgery But still retain like eggs or whatever and carry a child. That's a female having a kid That's not really like a to meet right you born a male. Yeah, and Being able to carry a child Made they the science What I'm saying is that by putting it out into social media and have all of these images and yes people talking about it Right it become a discussion where I'm not saying that tomorrow. It's gonna happen But 20 30 years down it be such where people are more accepting to it because even before they are really came out of the closet it came on TV see one person, you know two men kissing at first he saw two females kissing then eventually later on Which is why I don't watch shows but like I don't but it gradually came out and now it's everywhere every show But what I'm saying is that this now it's a gimmick to have people thinking about certain things and you're gonna start seeing it probably a Lot more over the period of time and eventually something might come out later on I'm just looking at the bigger picture, you know as in they're thinking, you know how to implement certain things in this side I believe that they've already figured out that it's cool to do we we at our as a society we at our weakest that we've as This typically the way it is now for those that read the Bible and stuff like that the way that it is right now is What always was a precursor to that being the end and you know, so this this we just in a state right now to work It just looks bad. Let me ask you this when a boozey was on breakfast club They had a whole I don't know if you've seen that episode here. I did they had a whole This I guess I don't know who that was that they brought on the show But it was a it was a it was a guy a gay gay a gay guy. I guess dressed like a trans gender And they said her she was there they knew boozey was coming Do you think this was a set up a plot to because they was definitely aggressive at him toward the LGBTQ What do you think about that and do you feel like? You know when it comes to the South I'll be thinking about this is my thought How they reflect the people down here when they when they deal with them I look at the breakfast club and I'll be like the music is biased I'll be tripping off the fact of the Platinum artist is how the South has always been distinguished Different than the East Coast. I'm telling you. Yeah when I look at it. I can't balance off of what I see people Clinging to on the East Coast. I'm being real like the the hot nine sevens the all of these different platforms I don't look at them as a scale for you and I when when I think about Little flip and going platinum and not even having to have all resources P.m. See them the underground Kings We having our own lane Atlanta doing what they're doing, but they kind of they kind of cling to them, too But being in the deep South I like that what you did right there I'm a master at spotting where the darts is gonna Do that but being in the deep South, you know, it's a difference. Isn't it? I'm being honest Here's the thing that I do want to talk about the boosty thing, too I just went there come on well with with us in the South The thing is We have the fan base to get off the shit that we say they would like you to believe that their way of Thinking is the norm for everybody But then you got these southern acts politicians in hip-hop we are politicians. So When you see that there is an audience for ID or a PMPC or or whoever What it shows them and what it demonstrates to them is No matter how much you force that agenda there is still an opposing side to that and Though y'all have the biggest Megaphone's and in bull horns You still ain't the big the majority. Yeah, you're not the majority It's liberal left-leaning Ideology that you want to Put it out there as if everybody thinks like that, but the majority of people don't think like that the If you look at industries of sport Where there are men? That that is not an accepted thing Homosexuality it's it's perceived as a weakness in men Simple So, why do you think they they like the Charlemagne's and and the way they was doing Boosie? Why going back to that? Why do you think they was pushing so hard to try to show the man in them check? it is is first of all, you got to look at Boosie and And you would say on this particular subject that we talking about You know, homophobia this the shit that they try to term it as You're looking at an artist that is We're wanting to allow you to come to this you can come to this platform and and promote whatever it is You want to promote? This is the biggest platform but we in exchange need People to watch the interview as well. So we're going to throw this at you, which is the most polarizing topic Okay, that we can do I think One of them misunderstandings about it in my mind is that when people saying they done him like that and you It's just it's the same as if you had a guy shot yesterday. Okay, and you was up in there wrapped up Man, the majority of this interview feel to be about that bullet. That's right. That's right Yeah, you know and he said he felt like he was being ganged on because he was the only one with that point of view Compared to everybody else. They could have even brought on another person to say, okay, let me even You know the playing field. Yeah, you know, but they didn't the thing is he is the to his credit the strongest example of a heterosexual thinking person in hip hop bold enough to say What he really thinks about that Nobody you think nobody else. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people. No, but nobody else is bold enough to say So it's like in that way We're very happy To engage you this is exciting for us because nobody else is going to do it Anybody else is going to get up here and be politically correct So there's going to be an excitement for shooting this stuff at you You know, who else going to do it this we're here every single day four five hours a day doing our radio show I'm a lot of this shit is whole hum. You know We got somebody here today who's got a conviction. This is why I try to tell people that Convictions is real man Have some so that you can be interesting. I I don't budge from the way I see things. I was going to ask you do you think that What well, how would that have been if that would have been a ld being interviewed that similar but with better articulated better You know The problem with with with boosie is that though he Shot out to boosie by the way, but he's got this great Or he's has this way of seeing this But he doesn't have the language to communicate the complexities of why that is such A heinous thing right there. That shit ain't cool. It's not cool to be now for some they would say that um You know, like That's not the only thing that's not cool It's also not cool to be showing Men killing each other and and and all of this I would say you're right about all And just like you're right about all of that. I'm right about this Simple it's simple. So I don't like when they try to flip something and and make it as if Now because I done flipped it and because you know, I'm showing you something that you're uh wrong on So basically like don't worry about this wrong that I'm doing over here. No, man Let me ask you so when um Do you have any daughters? I have one stepdaughter. So if your daughter was marrying a woman like they asked boosie Would you go and give your daughter a way to another woman? No No And and that was a question that that that I believe it was uh Angela yee probably that asked him that question. She was she was very adamant and she was saying that He said no, he wouldn't but and she said no, you would you would you would he he went on to say Boosie went on to say that um, he looks at homosexuality between females as Girls having fun and you know doing this type of shit. Um And he doesn't think that that should Go any further than that quite the marriage, right? So he wouldn't so if his daughter was you can't condone both you can't condone that and then don't want to condone that You have to condone both exactly, but then at the same time I stress it goes back to I stress this. I don't want to see no female bro All of that shit look nasty to me But it goes back to what they show us as being accepted because remember when they started showing on tv They first showed two girls kissing They didn't show the two guys kissing at first when they're trying to introduce all of this to society Yes, when I say to society it was been going on forever Right don't get me wrong. You got to blame rap for a lot of the things that I remember when things were like new things that people rapped about subject matter new new thing new ideas It was cool to have two girls. It was not only was it two to have two girls It was cool to have a girl that would go get another girl for you, right? What it's that's ill in a song, right? In real life these practices don't end when the beat end In real life. It's some real powerful heavy earth shattering consequences To a lot of these ways of life that people was rapping about I look at this dude ti with what he's going through right now I'm gonna tell you something because he won that case. They just dropped the case. They just dropped that case How many cases did he have? Yeah one case I don't know if it was one, but it's the way that the Was one main case that came up. Okay. Let's let's say that however it went on the drop in the case Prayers for his family. We don't want to see nobody in jail and then like that And plus I believe it was just like a lawsuit anyway. It wasn't like police type shit. Yeah, so here's the here's the thing though Getting your woman your your wife And participating in these things with your wife There is a way and this is this right here If these be my last words, these are some good ones to have There is a way that you can live your life That makes Your family look beautiful An energy and a glow can be around job like y'all There's a way that you live. You're like, y'all got a great spirit take pictures together. That's a beautiful couple They moving around. Oh, this is E. It's mr. You know um That's a way that you can be when you live in your life in a certain manner I'm just gonna tell you straight up Ti and his wife look so unattractive they look devoid of of a powerful energy they look He's not seeing that the way that he has been living out his life Is the real reason why the power he's he's been very tense frustrated and agitated Since i've been home, you know His he's say things and they wrong It come off wrong Even when he's saying something that It is like hey, he's right, but for some reason when you say it, he doesn't he's not even He's thinking that all of y'all is the reason why man y'all just I know it ain't you know You don't even see what it is. What it really is is you need to go within yourself And correct just come clean man. I shouldn't have my wife out here eating. No bitch pussy man I shouldn't have my wife out here going out this this that that doesn't honor her That's not something that but instead of just being humble and open and vulnerable He falls back on the what me and what we doing. I will spare time and what we do man that that's Let me add something quickly to what you just said Because I know some people would say well Him having his wife out here. Maybe she want to do that. Maybe it's on her But then at the same time what I wanted to interject into that is the fact that he's the head of the household So it's always on him Yeah, you understand what I mean, right? So that I wanted to put that out there She's a reflection of him of him. So when you that's I'm very I'm very careful in that way in my own household about Uh And I'm not saying that I'm doing something outside of my household That I wouldn't want to be seen on the inside because I don't believe you can hide nothing from them You can't hide nothing It's going to be made clear this world here is going you going to be revealed here for whatever you really are Which is why you just stayed a course So when when I'm looking at uh my own house and my Different the best when you want your kids to do what it is that you want them to do Man, it's easy for them to get on track if you was if you was always on track. Yeah, you know, so, um, or if you have that kind of Way about you where they know that you're not doing nothing You know that that would bring dishonor and shame to your to your household or whatever, but but we got guys um Who are in in influential positions powerful positions that Once they have achieved a certain amount of notoriety the ambition and the hunger for more Opens up doors for them to do have to do things in order to take that next step next level. Yeah, and that's when Or Engaging it when you're talking about man I'ma tell you and this it goes deep when you start wondering why certain people didn't win Grammys for albums and shit that you didn't agree to do certain things Not so much not that you didn't agree not not like somebody asking you and you said no You ain't coming around you ain't you ain't mingling with us on this level. There's this You know, you you got to come over here, you know into what we're we got going on You know posthumously We can give you an award So we know you ain't gonna open your mouth until you know after you're dead We can give you a certain kind of words, but while you're here And you know too pot you think for the winner grammy and understand what we got I have a question about I don't want to pass Because I wanted to just On the ti deal and I'm not trying to save him, but I am saying that With the family and the things that he got going These could be wake-up calls to to evolve him into doing something greater and better down the line So as long as you alive, you got a chance correct, but I will say this He didn't have quite a few wake-up calls. Yeah. Yeah And and a lot of this What it takes to I'm gonna give you another example on his hands on the people around him as well who can You know, but it's more on him It's an inner spiritual thing and the reason I say that is because you remember when I'm to sit down And he's not a lot of time Not a lot, but he had some time to sit down and think about the things that's going on And I don't know how he used that time He wasn't sitting down really and I'm gonna tell you this With a lot of the things that he did I'm gonna tell man when you when you compromise your morals and principles The best thing you can do on up to it When he was saying that Y'all trying to say that I read it and you know because we are from the hood and and we don't see many people in His situation as far as like getting caught with with way less guns than him and things like this Um receive the mandatory sentences that are associated with those charges By the fact that he did not like he received leniency from the um The the prosecutor the prosecution side Seek leniency From the federal judge who has mandates to go by We're asking for a departure from your regular This doesn't happen So when the things that he involved I'm not saying that he I'm saying like from that point right there To get enough into Doing crime stopper videos and stuff like that and then the things that he said As a result of like i'm doing these i'm doing yeah, I did this what i'm supposed to do take 20 years This is is is back to what i'll be trying to tell people about this g shit is It's stupidity Willing stupidity If you're not willing hell yeah, i'm not taking no i'm not finna stand up there and let y'all put no clown nose on me And and make me sit up here and do a crime stopper video because I am Against I can't do that. I'm not allowed to do that. He can't just say that hey, I did that or uh They when when faced with a situation like that I decided to become a family man, you know Or whatever but when I look at people like them misrepresenting Uh certain aspects of what it takes to be that thing that they want to portray It just it just made me feel like It made me feel not good for them and then I watch what happens to them After that I watch when somebody puts themselves in a position like that and then they compromise them I I watch I just watch it play itself out and ask them play this self out all the way to this One of the hardest things in the world, man is to uh Compromise your principles compromise your morals and what you stood on And then have to live in the reality that you created after that without just saying hey man I shouldn't have done that