 I am in the all-terrain cane booth here with someone who introduced themselves as Sedona Dave, also known as David Epstein, and what is it you have here Dave? I've got the all-terrain cane. This is a super strong, super lightweight mobility cane designed by a blind guy, me, to stay active and hiking the wilderness trails of Arizona and everywhere else I want to be. Wait a minute, I'm sighted and I fall down on flat surfaces. You're hiking with a cane? I am, yes. It's a super strong mobility cane. It's what I need, what I feel I need on the trails. What does a mobility cane do? Obstacle detection, terrain changes, navigation. Well, what do I need hiking? The same thing, obstacle detection, terrain changes. I need to know what's on the trails, but the regular street cane just wasn't cutting it. They're made to be light and flexible and easy to pack away, but they don't do anything on the trails. They don't offer any support. They're essentially useless. Well, they get stuck in crevices and stuff, just kind of pops around instead of moving? Right, they do. The joints pop out, they get stuck, they bend, they break, they shatter, and they're just not effective on the trails. Now, I need support. There's really nothing to hold onto out there other than what dead cactuses and dead trees and javelinas. When I first ran into trouble on the trails, in the middle of my orientation mobility training, the sun went down and I lost all contrast and I was not having a good time, and my wife asked me what seems to be the problem. She didn't like my poetry, and I said, well, I can't see. I lost contrast. I don't belong here. I can't do this. I need something. I need this, but I don't know what this is, and that was really the pebble that launched the avalanche to what we have today as the all terrain cane. This turned out to be a mobility cane that I can use for support, for balance, for slowing me down or breaking on the trails. As Dave is describing this, he's pushing on the cane and leaning on it, and it's flexing some, but it's not bending like a traditional cane would. Exactly. I needed this to be super, super strong. To do what the instructors tell me not to do, lean on the cane, vertically load the cane. I never do that. Why? Why not supposed to? Why? We don't know. Why? I need this. Can you describe the cane itself for people who are listening? I would be so honored to. The cane does differ from the normal street cane in many different ways. Starting from the top, we've got a 16-inch grip, not just nine inches, but 16. That allows us plenty of room for choking up, either with a cane grip or a ski pole grip for added strength and support while descending, protecting our shoulders, using our upper body for strength. The top half of the grip does have that flat section we're accustomed to. Bottom half. I don't know anything about the flat spot on the cane. You feel that flat section. That's a guide. That's for us to put our index finger on to help navigate with the cane. For feeling. Exactly. The bottom section is just a round profile, and that's good for the ski pole grip. Good positive grip. I'm not on a slippery shaft. If I need to securely hold on, I'm locked on down 16 inches. Then there's a hinge at that point. There is a hinge, but there's something else as well. At the bottom of the grip, there's a flip lock. Kind of like a traditional tripod. Exactly. It's an external lock that I open up. Now I can extend the cane from 51 inches to about 62 inches. Holy cow. That's almost as tall as you are. We call it one size fits most, but it really is one cane that can handle many different not only heights and size people, but different activities. Yeah. If you're going down a real steep terrain, you need it to be longer, right? Exactly. When they ascend on the trails, I set the cane nice and short. Why is this so awesome and unique? Well, it's an adjustable length cane, but it's also a folding cane. This is a three section folding cane. He just pulled it apart. I don't know if everyone has seen the way canes fold up, but you pull them apart like you would the tent poles do this, where you pull it apart, and it's got a flexible line. It's got a spring in it, and you pop it. He's now folded it into pretty small three pieces. Three sections, right. So we've got a three section folding extendable length cane. But the bottom of the cane is what really caught my eye when I walked up. It's red, so we've got black, white, and red. Yes. Now the bottom of the cane, the mobility canes are white and red reflective. That's how they look. That's for the sightlings. The sightlings, yes. The sighted hordes, to be able to identify it. So I made sure the cane is white and red, highly reflective. But I also chose a two-winds rolling ball at the tip. I feel that it covers mostly all trains that I'm working on. Not only smooth concrete, but the very coarse asphalt out in Arizona. My daily walk with a dog starts with the concrete, asphalt, dirt, rock. And now I'm on the wilderness trails with him. Wow. So this rotates about the axis of the cane? It does, yes. It's called a rolling ball. Two-winds. And I went with red because why not? Because why not? They don't have to be white and boring. Let's bling it up for the kids and the adults. We're actually making our cane tips in four different colors. We've got red, yellow, a beautiful sherbet pink, and a red orange. I'm really excited about those colors. Colors are fun. They really are. No need for us to be stuck in a corner or have boring canes. I've got to tell you about the materials. Super, super strong designed for vertical loading. The cane is made of a Grade 9 titanium alloy. Oh, wow. That gives it a super strength. That's expensive, though, right? It is. But why do we have canes that break? A car door can hobble us. And I find that insulting at this age of a game. So for the non-engineers in the crowd, titanium has a very high strength to weight ratio. So you could do it in steel and it could be just as strong, but it would weigh a lot. So titanium is a lot more useful. Absolutely. It keeps the weight down and the strength up. And again, it's able to handle car doors or cobblestones or anything else that's going to bend or break our canes. We need this. And this is finding its way into all the developing countries where they don't have access to great roads or great infrastructure. That's a good point. That could be just walking to go get water, not hiking. It's daily living. Just like me in Arizona, it's my everyday cane. Oh, it is. Okay. That's interesting. So if people want to learn more about the all-terrain cane, where would they go? So we go to AwareWolfGear.com and that's A-W-A-R-E-W-O-L-F-G-E-A-R.com, AwareWolfGear.com. And you can put a forward slash A-T-C in there if you want, or it'll take you right to our site where you can see our great wear, our great line of clothing, the AwareWolfGear. High visibility clothing for low vision people. Find yourself to the all-terrain cane page. Great information. We've got smoke and deals on ball packages. Very cool. This is very cool. Sedona is one of my favorite places. I'd love to see this. This is a really cool invention, Dan. Dan, David, I really appreciate you taking the time to talk to us. Thank you so much for your time. I absolutely appreciate it and it's great to see you here. Enjoy the rest of the show and keep crushing it. If I can send you home with a red rock from Sedona, I'd certainly love to as well. That's great fun. It's the last day. We can let them go. You don't want to carry them home. I don't want to carry them home. All right. Thanks, David. Have a great day today.