 Like that they want to boisterous bird who might work for a police force type of you know, like She doesn't sound like she's that dog. I did tell Sarah Ray was like the commas dog at the German Shepherd Shelter Super shy and relaxed, but she did have a dark side that came out once she started to get some confidence You know, which her namesake got it Your possibilities to put me on discord at midnight That's Ray, but like I mean, what does that mean a dark side? Well, I dark side towards you shine calm, right until she got comfortable in the house and then she started to bullish Sawyer around You also started barking at dogs on walks with the first month that I had her on walks She would just be like right next to you everything's fine, but then she's like Yeah, get away from her like we're teacher like no no no, you don't need to be she got a little alpha going on It was she didn't know was in her maybe enough confidence to start defending herself enough bonding with us to start defending us But not enough confidence to feel comfortable out in the right, right. Yeah Yeah Which is that would be you know, I don't want to I don't know I don't know enough about this Sometimes have hidden secrets Hey, welcome to the club. Yeah, right Yeah, I just don't I don't like the idea of creating my dog More than I have to I I understand it's part of the yeah the process of yeah Yeah, there's a limit. Yeah, like I just I just wouldn't want to adopt a dog that I felt Uncomfortable leaving alone with my cats without them being restrained It's like if we're getting to that point probably not the right situation. That's a lot of a lot of mate You know, yeah, exactly. That's the thing you just never know. You you know, oh You got to make a guess. Yeah, well, that's why you do foster periods near you Yeah, you know, I kind of thought about that to do that. I didn't realize you could do a foster period. Yeah. Yeah Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah We did that with Ray because we weren't we didn't have Sawyer with her with us when we got her They're like, well sign a foster agreement and then you can try it out And if they don't get along then, you know, no no harm done at least she had a nice place to stay for a couple weeks well on a lot of shelters Will they have like really good foster programs because they're like listen This might not be the forever place for this particular animal But you'd help us out a lot if you train and yeah, I got them out of the shelter and yeah, like socialized a cat or a dog or Or whatever All right, we're about ready you guys ready. Um, yeah, I am recording on Audio hijack excellent Okay, all right Hey there Scott Johnson. That's me. Could you read line three for me when I tell you when I point it I would gladly read line three when you prompt me to read it. All right. Here we go three two Thanks to everyone who supports daily tech news show directly to find out more head to daily tech news show dot com slash support This is the daily tech news for wednesday august 15th 2018 in los angeles. I'm tom merit and from studio feline I'm sarah lane from salt lake city, utah where the smoke is finally moving past us i'm scott johnson roger chang is doing just fine. Do not worry about him But he did have a last minute thing happened with the fam That pulled him away. He's still producing today's show. He just won't be here during the actual show Don't worry about roger roger's gonna be fine Okay, I know Made it such a big deal out of it Keep trying to talk us out the ledge. You've gone so far to alleviate our concerns. I'm now concerned Well, it's because a couple people after yesterday like hope everything's all right with roger I'm like, oh, yeah. No, everything's fine. So everything's right. Let's start however with a few tech things You should know Well, twitter put alec jones's twitter account in read only mode for seven days after the company found that he violated a twitter policy So read only does not mean an actual suspension It means that a user can't tweet or retweet or like other tweets But can still read timelines and access all user profiles read only twitter said that jones also must delete that Offending tweet that led to the partial suspension and the company also later put the same restrictions On the infowars account for the same violation Well android police You need some police. I got you covered android police reports that and tom. I'm not gonna say this right punica Punica is that really how you say how you say that's it? All right, punica punica web Developer of two call recording apps for android say android rather say they Say call recording is no longer possible on android 9 pi without root access That means no third party call recording apps on android pi There have been rumors that google was working on a native call recording App or functionality of some sort, but it does not appear in the first release of pi So you're gonna have to wait maybe a later slice Microsoft is rolling out folder protection for one drive which auto syncs your documents your pictures your desktop folders to one drive even from multiple windows 10 pcs finally Folder protection first rolled out to business users back in june now everybody's got one would think they would have had that already but uber's q2 earnings show that the company's net revenue was up eight percent quarter over quarter to two point seven billion dollars now year over year It's a big increase 51 percent in fact however uber's losses in the latest quarter are around 404 million dollars compared with 304 million dollars in losses in q1 As for the company's self-driving car efforts the company has spent between 125 million and 225 million per quarter over the last 18 months That's a lot of bleed according to the information sources Some of uber's investors are urging the company to get rid of the self-driving car program overall And a lot of the the loss of money came from expansions of uber eats, right? Yeah Jump by partnering Yeah, so it's it's the the the ride-hailing part of the business is actually looking quite healthy Let's talk a little bit more about integration Combination teaming up scott. I like integration Microsoft and amazon launched an early access public pretty preview Of integration between cortana and amazon voice services. Yeah, that's right your echo I'm not going to say her name. I don't want to mess you guys up Users will be able to ask their echoes for information from email and calendar that microsoft handles well and cortana users Can have amazon execute smart home things and uh, you know stuff that it handles well In practice, this means asking one voice assistant to open the other and then using it like you normally would One thing we didn't talk about this morning uh was And we talked about this briefly on the on tms tom brought at the site So we'd probably talk about it on the show one part. We didn't really talk about is Is that a permanent switch until you tell it otherwise or do you have to do it every time? So yeah, I think as far as I know like you can keep doing it for a session But then it times out and the next time you go over and you're like, hey Tell open cortana and then cortana opens and then you can carry on from there So not 100 in my opinion not the best solution Overall, it'd be nice if you could just I don't know to me. This was like well I'm so integrated in the microsoft ecosystem. I love Having office 365 and a million other microsoft services and I really like cortana So I'd like her to be my voice assistant on my echo and it sounds like That's not an option. Well, my first reaction was like, this is so silly. Why can't cortana or the other? amazon's voice assistant do everything so we don't have to like do an inception version of you know Getting what you want between the two But then I liken it to an app that I use that has a great filter And sometimes I send that filtered photo to another app because I know that the two in conjunction are actually stronger together. So in a sense This is a little bit more of the same. Well, it's basically it's like, oh, I set all this step off on cortana I don't want to have to set it up again on amazon Right, you can just say it's like basically making cortana into a skill and vice versa HQ trivia remember that game Many people do many people don't has launched a version of its app for apple tv The new version lets you use the ios remote app for voting You can also use the the regular apple tv app the mobile apps downloads have been declining in recent months Quite a bit in fact for HQ, but the game still attracts hundreds of thousands of players Each month. Well, we knew this was gonna Trickle off right like at some point I would watch that thing Third time or fourth time and I would go Yeah, okay. I think I'm good. I don't really need to pay attention to this anymore And usually when I do that It's usually a sign that others are doing that like I'm usually in the zeitgeist when it comes to that sort of stuff So I feel you weren't winning anymore, right? Yeah, well, I never did win once but I did get kind of close ones Which made me feel good and kim and I were kind of into it for a while But it just I don't know lost at shine and honestly part of this for me is I haven't heard anyone talking about it This is the first I've heard Anything significant going on in a very long time. So maybe that's fine They're settling into whatever they are and the apple tv part of this is part of their strategy and okay That's great. I don't want to be smirking them. I just I have a hard time getting excited about the service anymore Well, you know at one point it was you know, at least on ios I know the android store is a little bit different But on ios it was the top game and then it was sort of like in the fifties of You know popular apps and then it was you know, it has been declining The way that all games that I happen to like end up declining Pokemon go is another great example lots of people still like it, but there was you know, there was it there was a huge surge of casual users like myself who have all You know, uh drifted away think of zenga's revenue model and you know how there's There's a shelf life to a lot of these games because they're fun and they're novel But people are busy and they move on to something else and I don't really put hq in The gaming category the way that you yeah, I don't know like I wouldn't compare it to fortnite. It's not really a game It's like a fun social thing That I think it makes sense because of that because it it is an interactive television show It makes sense because of that But if people are already you know if the new shiny object has already taken them away It's like apple tv integration isn't going to get me to play the game twice a day the way that I used to Yeah, they retain them and Who knows maybe it'll start to build back up A new vulnerability being called foreshadow or you may also see it referred to as the l1 terminal fault That's what intel is calling it was found. Thanks to research into related meltdown inspector chip flaws foreshadow bypasses speculative execution safeguards And creates an unprotected copy of data in intel's secure sgx enclave now that enclave is not used by every app But it is meant to secure sensitive application data Like passwords from one password or your credit card numbers stuff like that it affects all intel core skylake and cabi lakes processors and Beyond what the researchers found intel in its own investigations found that foreshadow could break security boundaries between virtual machines And hypervisors that has implications for data centers There's possibilities that it could affect other things as well The researchers only found the ability to use that speculative Execution to get into the secure enclave and we won't go back and we have talked about what that is on previous shows But it's essentially a way to take The speculative execution which tries to speed up processes and trick it into leaking information That's an over simplification. Anyway, uh, intel and microsoft have published patches So there's some mini code pushes from intel Amazon and google have developed mitigation for cloud services There is a patch coming for linux and a team of researchers will present the findings at the usenix security conference in baltimore on thursday Wow, I guess i'm uh It's interesting how much More vulnerabilities we're hearing about in as a result of cloud computing's innovations things that have been moving in the direction of I don't know if I would phrase this that way Uh, I think this is the you're putting the cart before the horse a little bit This is a security vulnerability in a chip, which by the way is a very sophisticated vulnerability No one has seen specter meltdown or this one in the wild. They're they're hard to implicate and What it is is a chip vulnerability has implications on the cloud But that could just be because we have a whole lot more cloud uh systems It's not a vulnerability in cloud itself. Yeah, I'm saying it wrong. What I really mean is The complexity The more complex we get with what we do with our computing power devices software services The it just feels like the more complicated the potential Uh, more the more ramifications It has and that that's true when you if you had a chip vulnerability in 1994 It affected all of us with 46 dx chips, right? Yeah, that's like, you know not not as much of an issue As it is now where everybody's using cloud services for everything even if you don't know it, right? You're using an app that app may be all stored in amazon. Yeah back then it was just whether your heat sink was big enough Yeah, but again, uh, that said this is not a vulnerability in the wild at this point And it is an incredibly hard one to pull off. So this is good news This is the kind of news we want to hear which is hey, we found this really hard to pull off vulnerability and we fixed it Yeah, they're way out ahead of it. That's good 10 cent reported an unexpected 2 drop in quarter to profits. This is unusual for this company. It's first decline in almost 13 years 10 cent experience slower than expected growth in gaming and investments 10 cent plans to address the slowdown by getting more from existing titles launching more rpgs publishing more games internationally there's a lot of talk about their their standalone Basically steam competitor in china bringing that to the states and other european countries Going full english with it. That could be really interesting because they're already bigger than steam anyway We track we chat rather grew 1.06 billion users and financial and cloud services raised Its other business category revenue 81 percent. They're a very interesting company From a lot of angles. I of course follow them mostly from the gaming side, but First drop in 13 years is, you know, that's significant, but they're doing okay. They'll be all right Well, and if you look at the we chat growth we chat is doing great, right? It's all the other stuff that 10 cent might not be Growing significantly enough in which is what's scary enough investors Well, and sarah you have the story that might explain why that is Well, and let's move on to that now bloomberg reports that chinese regulators have frozen approval of game Licenses the freeze comes as a result of personnel changes and concerns over violence and gambling in games overall In the country companies like 10 cent have mentioned approval freezes in earnings But the government has not made official comments about why that is Yeah, so this is the price 10 cents doing great, right? We chat Got its billion users and you know, it's not skyrocketing. It's not hockey stick growth anymore, but it's still growing It's making Plenty of money from its its other sectors financial cloud services A lot of people don't realize they they have a huge enterprise like like that within china but with the government cracking down and since January not allowing new game titles to be published in china and going back to what you were saying scott about You know 10 cent ramping up, but not yet there internationally for games Uh, this really impacts them because they can't roll out new games and create new revenue sources Yeah, and what's interesting is it's even affecting them from coming the other direction So they have a huge controlling stake In epic games now who makes fortnight the world's biggest video game They also own riot games who makes league of legends arguably the second most popular video game in the world right now um, they They own these juggernauts that they came here to get But the problem is they're having a hard time getting titles made here Over there for the same reason their own homegrown titles aren't getting approved So it doesn't even matter if they've expanded to other territories. They're doing well in those territories those investments are paying off But bringing it back to china is a problem Because they're hitting that government ceiling. So So i don't know. I don't know how they get around that um, you know in a in a perfectly, uh Open market sort of situation they wouldn't have to worry about it But there are a lot of weird little regulations to get around in china when it comes to gaming It is absolutely the place you want to be no matter who you are a blizzard and everybody They all want to be in china Because there's a huge amount of money to make and all kinds of mind share to get and everything else 10 cent is certainly poised to probably dominate They already do but That's interesting right like to have to have that have yourself get blocked for a reason That's really out of your own hands is is tricky and even if they make games that Are are less violent and have less loot boxes and all the issues that the chinese government cracks down on It still doesn't hurry up the process of the of the approvals that have been stalled and hampered. So I don't know what they do. It's kind of a it's kind of a weird situation And they'll just they'll be fine 10 cent is a really rich company They'll be fine But this is an interesting twist in there in their world But I I sort of wonder if 10 cent will have to do I don't know. I guess this sort of reverse of what google is currently figuring out where it's like Listen, we want to be in china, but we need, you know, there's a huge user base. We're not tapped into it How do we figure out that market? What does 10 cent do outside of china? No, this is this is really I think what's super interesting right now is for a long time The chinese perspective and i'm going to oversimplify here for sure But the chinese perspective has been We'll make international companies partner with domestic companies to operate So you have to store data locally among other things and operate with our censorship And so you've seen apple and others say, okay Well, our our cloud storage in china is going to be handled by a third party That gets us out of the censorship accusation And it follows the local storage laws Then you've seen this opposite where somebody in china wants to break out internationally Uh And and that seemed like oh well you can be successful in china and have fewer barriers to break out internationally But it's harder to win internationally and break into china Well now we're seeing that there is a disadvantage to being in china and trying to break out internationally Like scott said you can't pull that stuff back in so It this is not i'm not making a prediction here But this is one to watch to see if china's gambled that their way of handling companies was going to be more Advantageous to chinese companies ends up actually being true Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes be sure to subscribe but to dailytech headlines dot com Hey, uh, so 5g lots of 5g news i'm going to run through a few headlines uh in the 5g world and then uh, let's check in On various parts of the world where we are in 5g because we're going to get start getting some service By the end of this year in certain places on this old planet of ours samsung announced its 5g standards compliant exanose modem 5100 So this is samsung's first 5g compatible hardware It can hit six gigabits per second millimeter wave speeds build on samsung's 10 nanometer process for sub six gigahertz and millimeter wave 5g spectrums Also backwards compatible super important if you buy a 5g phone and you don't have 5g service Well, you're not going to buy that 5g phone if it doesn't work on lte This modem can work on 2g 3g and lte samsung says it's the first modem to conform To the 3g pp 5g spec published in july now qualcomm probably will quibble with this They launched an x50 modem for 5g, but they launched it before the spec was finalized So there might be some quirks here and there uh that that modem doesn't quite comply It will and then the x50 and the exanose uh 5100 will be your two major 5g modems out there Now that means manufacturers can start building these 5g phones Sell them to people without 5g services future proof like hey This will this will work on 5g when it finally comes along and sprint and lg are going to do just that Release a 5g smartphone in the first half of 2019 sprint plans to launch its 5g network in 2019 So you should be able to use it on some parts of the sprint network anyway lg is now the second device manufacturer next to motorola remember Motorola announced the 5g moto mod for the moto z3 That would let you make the z3 5g compliant and verizon Says it plans to launch its 5g service later this year in indianapolis That was the last of the cities that it had to announce So now indianapolis houston sacramento in los angeles will get 5g service later this year Won't be a lot of devices for you to use on it. There'll be some you know wi-fi hockey puck type stuff Out there early adopters can choose a free subscription to youtube tv Or a free apple tv 4k device if they sign up for this 5g service As well as nfl mba and news content from forizon's oath Of course, that makes me think that this is going to be pitched as a home service Not a mobile service at least in the beginning Shall we go around the world? Let's do it. Yeah, but what does 5g mean tom depending on the country that you're in Means fast first of all you're talking about gigabit plus service over the air and there are two versions of it one That will be pitched particularly for home use So they beam the 5g service doing antenna maybe on top of your house or something and then run it into your house from there Uh, and then there's 5g mobile service where you can use on your phone walking around coup wait Already has 5g service No devices really just make up that could use it Uh, but they're ready and uradu launched their 5g service in kuwait in june Now there's people arguing whether it's really 5g and whether you get to call it 5g If you don't have any devices running on it, etc, etc But it is they do have a legit 5g service. It was launched before the spec So maybe it's not perfectly compliant china is generally Seem to be the first one that's going to get to real World pervasive commercialized service china unicom Wants to pilot commercialization in beijing this year With other pilot cities to follow and they target china wide service to roll out between this year and 2020 The u.s. Hot on their heels at and t and verizon And as we just mentioned verizon plan late 2018 rollouts and sprint and t mobile 2019 And a couple others that may surprise you chile And the entel carrier Plans phased rollout of 5g service starting this year throughout next year and argentina's movie star Pretty much along the same path starting later this year and rolling out next year the most interesting one korea Has agreed that everybody's going to roll it out at the same time Because 4g rollout was a mess they said everybody was claiming to be first and people were Doing negative ads and it was confusing for customers So south korea's ministry of science and ict and the local telcos sk telecom kt and lg u plus Have agreed to launch 5g service simultaneously And in exchange the ministry Agreed to provide unlimited tax benefits for security maintenance to the telcos So the trials for all three telcos begin in december and commercial service We'll start rolling out in march Hmm Would there be um Okay, here's the question. How's that walking the dog yesterday? Let's bring it home. Let's bring it to the ground level. Okay I'm walking around and I see these giant spools on giant big orange cable looking conduit On these giant spools all ending up one of the streets near me Sure, and I thought what in the crap is this and I got closer and closer and I I got up I was feeling a little nervous because there's workers everywhere But I got up on the side of it and I saw a label it said verizon fiber something something Okay, does it have anything to do with that roll out? Do you think? Hey, anybody who works for verizon out there anonymously wants to email feedback at daily tech news show dot com Especially if you work in the salt lake area, uh, let us know You have nowhere no announcements. Nobody seems to know what it's for. I'm just super curious Is there anything to do with 5g? It could just be verizon rolling out some new backhaul It could be simply, you know, like hey We have some old copper in the ground and we're replacing it with fiber because that that makes our backhaul better It could be that they're rolling out some wired infrastructure to support 5g services 5g services doesn't need to have New wired infrastructure, but it's not that you wouldn't have it in certain situations. So yeah, I have no idea what that is I mean in the Los Angeles area, um as a verizon subscriber Of course, my first thought was like yay when the new iphone comes out in october I'll just have like a 5g iphone. Okay. That might not happen, right? However, the idea of as an early adopter because of course verizon wants to you know test speeds and you know See adoption and it countries like Kuwait and Chile for example having infrastructure in place maybe before manufacturers have have have truly descended on that particular region can also be advantageous to get uh, Yeah, um companies to expand into your area, but yeah for the la area. It's like Free subscription to youtube tv over 5g. I'll try that Yeah, and this this definitely feels like a home service not a mobile service So they're not going to be trying to sell you a device except for the device that you would attach to your house And they'll say hey, sarah, uh, we'll install an antenna On your balcony and uh, and then you'll get like a gigabit service over the air I'm very interested in this there's there's me too There's one company in the la area called sky river That's basically doing this with uh advanced lte So you put an antenna on your house you get the fast lte and you can get up to 300 megabits per second But even that is I mean that's not gigabit No You know, I mean the idea of that depending on how much video watch obviously my river is very pitched at businesses They they don't make it easy to sign up like a home user Verizon's going to come in I think and go after the home user and it's probably Explains one of the reasons they decided to stop rolling out Verizon fios Is they looked at their 5g plans and we're like well We're going to be competing with ourselves and 5g is way cheaper to roll out than digging up the streets for fiber right Um, it does it does seem nice though. It feels like it feels like lte as a standard and quote unquote feet 4g Is long enough in the tooth that it's about time though We're hearing about a finalized standard and about time we're hearing about an implementation and finalized back in july So we're rolling now in actual modems like it's exciting I feel like we're about to enter the next uh the next stage and then then we can wait around for 6g or whatever We're going to call it now I know some of you had already sent the email complaining that I didn't mention your part of the world But we'll try to make up for that now finish up with uh a little bit about australia telstra exchange Says they'll start rolling out in 2019 in the gold coast area Optus in australia early 2019 in key metro areas and vodafone looking at australia for 2020 in japan testing's already underway We're looking at late 2019 for some of the first service to roll out there nt dokomo When they announced their partnership with nokia a few months back said 2020 So it's a little bit hard to tell exactly when you'll get it in japan But sometime next year probably mexico's america moviel 2019 through 2020 so they'll start rolling it out next year and then most of it will start coming in 2020 Switzerland says they'll begin rolling out their service before the end of 2019 and pretty much everybody else that I could find data for uh mentioned 2020 brazil norway germany uk new zealand and canada Telus mobility did say that while 2020 was its target date for 5g in canada You might get it earlier in vancouver. Uh, they might start rolling it out in 2019 there There you go Well, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit sometimes there are 5g stories in our subreddit But there are lots of other ones you could submit the stories you want us to talk about or at least put on our radar Please do it and vote on others daily tech news show dot reddit.com Of course, we're on facebook as well facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show We love hearing your emails. That's why we've been allowed to ourselves and sometimes read them aloud right here on the show Uh tree story tom adonis aka sergeant sisco says that he doesn't mind that whole google tracking location History story that we talked about the other day because the convenience outweighs the privacy issues Adonis says I can see traffic patterns in the morning before heading to work I can track my oldest child's phone when she loses it again or track if she made it to school Track the weather on either google home or assistant My wife and I share locations with each other because we work opposite shifts often when the other one Sneaks out to the ice cream store and not bring anything home I can call her out on it and vice versa Whatever I may have to hide isn't on the cloud though and whatever is private is secured with two factor and long passports I am 100 with this person This is I feel like this is a little beha beside the point though He's saying away. Well, sergeant sisco is saying I don't mind google tracking my location history because it gives me these these things And if that was the story that then I'd totally agree But the story is they were tracking your location in a way that a lot of you didn't realize was happening It's all fair to my opinion too if google says if you let us track your location history We will do these things and then sergeant sisco can make an informed choice and go. That's fine. I don't mind like he's saying That's perfectly rational But the story was that they were saying you've turned off location history and people thought oh great Now location history is off But there was another system going that was also storing some location history That people didn't realize was doing well, and I think yeah, I think sergeant sisco's He's like listen. I got a family. We're busy people everyone's all over the place This works for me even if there's something a little weird about the privacy settings It is more advantageous than it is a privacy issue for me You should just be making that choice eyes wide open not thinking You know it starts at sisco obviously is like I had nothing to hide so it's no problem Right, but if if you were in the position of I thought I turned it off It's not okay for me, and then you found out I'm still storing some that's that's the problem that's going Well, thank you for the feedback It's always nice to know how people are using this technology and have different opinions Also, thanks to scott johnson for being with us this fine wednesday scott. What has been going on in your world? Oh man, so many things just like every week, but this week I'll just say that um, I'm making a lot of tuck boxes. That's tu ck. Just make sure people heard that right That's right. 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We're also live monday through friday at 4 30 p.m. Eastern 2030 utc Find out more at daily tech news show dot com slash live back tomorrow with justin robber young talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network Get more at frog pants dot com We miss you roger We do Normally I would Filling or something I would ask him what to call the show Well, we can do that We can do that Help All right showbot show us your How big is your How great are your titles You Soon That's funny, but I don't know how many people get it. Yeah, I know in fact, I would not have if you hadn't Try to sing it That's funny. Um That wasn't really what the story was about but Roger is fine in quotes. Roger is fine. He is fine. He's a fine man. What about cortana and lexa sitting in a tree? SK I L I N G There's just first comes an app then comes a First comes the wakeboard then comes the command open. All right. I got it. That's what they do on the weekends They on the netflix and skill get it That's funny. All right That's netflix and skills, but it would be a great title You're okay sammy 5g trust us. It's real It's where trust who Us the consortium. Oh us. Yes. Well, it is real Yeah, it's it's the it's the problem with headlines, right people read the the headlines four years ago Like 5g is coming and we'll bring you amazing stuff. They're like great when and then for four years It's like not coming yet and then right great. I really this time Yeah 5g for really reels this time real reels I don't know you guys pick I can't tell I feel like 5g for really reels this time is still jumping the gun a little Yeah, it is. It's not it's it's it sounds like it's for really reels. Let's talk in november Look, we're going to replace her 5g. How big how big is your heat sink? Going on captain jack when I brought up the 1990s processors scottie Oh, okay. Got it How much sink does your heat does your heat? How have any thermal grease sink I really need to know How many heat does it take to get to the center? You used to have a drawer full of thermal grease because you never knew when you had to crack your cpu opening Still don't Okay, we still got a little time 5g global 5g global No Are we wanting it to be a 5g related? No, no, no, I just got stuck on that and we did doesn't have to be at all um Oh I mean we did have we did have a fair amount of 5g info. So maybe 5g for really reels this time is I'm with you your first gut reaction though is like we want to save that for the day. It's like you can Yeah, right you know, yeah Because that it feels like you're gonna get that day eventually Yeah, we're gonna have that day when it's like the first time you can actually buy a device and use it on a 5g network Is here Now, I don't know if 10 cent you'll be a nickel soon is is to sort of I don't know inside baseball pulp fiction for everybody But I never thought of the company being 10 cent before It was just a name of a company. I never thought about it. We could go with that one. I kind of like it Let's do it. I don't know. It's a little sensational You know for us Oh gosh, uh the washington post just um Uh new new article on the twitter, uh, I don't know whatever's going on with twitter Jack dorsi says twitter is considering promoting alternative viewpoints in a timelines including bots And redesigning the like button and follower account display Okay, what is happening over there? I mean that again, I didn't understand You didn't understand what I just said. No, I mean the the first part of what you just said Jack dorsi says twitter is considering promoting alternative viewpoints in timelines so Let's say that you say something, uh, like I hate this politician. This is a bad politician twitter might then say Well, you know seated under tom's tweet Maybe um a tweet by someone else that sarah follows There's an alternative viewpoint that somehow its algorithm can can deem both are important for me to see Oh, so if I say Uh, representative scott johnson is a liar and a crook Right. Yeah, that would be uh ribbit's tweet saying Representative scott johnson has been unfairly accused and he's innocent Right, okay, right. Don't you get that? No, okay It's not hoisted upon us or foisted upon us, but the discover tab gives you that kind of now Yeah, but not on purpose on purpose Like what he's saying is they would tweak the algorithm to look for alternative viewpoints and make sure they're together Right now it sort of just happens accidentally. I see, you know, I've always For years now, I've sort of been like ha ha ha all of the twitter stuff doesn't really apply to me because I use tweetbot Um, you know, I don't see ads. I don't you know, yeah There's like no nesting of things that you know everything sort of sequential and the way that I like it however Uh tap bots, which is the company that makes tweetbot among a few other tools has already um Been starting to remove features based on the new api changes that twitter put into place Or is putting it into place in uh, september, but apparently tap bots is not going to Fight the new api rules the part that you see the part that really confused me is you said something about bots Oh, um That was Labeling bots so like bots are not going to be in my timeline is like well tom merit like, you know Let's you know have the bot give the you know the the 180 comparison and I know it's more of like um a uh System so that we know what is it when you see a post from a bot it'll be like this is a bot Right and the bots don't have anything to do with like presenting the alternative view. Got it. That's just a different sound It sounds like reasonable it does potential measures to take It sounds a little like whiteboard stuff you would talk about before you talk publicly about it Yeah, like here's some stuff we're thinking about doing Yeah I'm all for more open the transparent everywhere. I run a bot On twitter you do. Yeah Yeah, do I know about it if you go to twitter.com slash tom merit That's a bot All it does is take whatever gets posted at tom merit dot com and then repost it I mean, it's not a very sophisticated bot. It's not trying to like Hack an election or anything Technically the definition of a bot because it's not me posting. It's it's an algorithm that says look here when new post Put it here This is not a bad idea I saw yesterday tom's bot said pizza gate is real pizza gate is real emails No, I I've always wanted to run my own little bot with some dumb thing That's you know, not super smart, but I never there was a pee tape I've I've never really wanted to run my own bot, but now I do I don't know what the twitter account would be though. Well, essentially what happened is at one point One of my good friends changed his twitter id from extra life name I got shaken Bigly familiar this actually was very upsetting to me in whole life was a big part of yeah His persona on twitter to me Yeah, I would do she and why when it happened. I remember exactly where I was like kennedy being shot. It was of a deal I was sleeping I said Tom maybe you should do the same and so I I started getting serious So I had I'd registered tom merit a long time before that just to have it I was like well, I should maybe start doing something on it And so that's what I did is I set up a bot to take things from tom merit dot common auto post them And then I never got past that that's what it's been for ever The picture associated with the dates when I last changed it because that picture was taken at cnet on Long ago that's a long time ago on that guy in that picture on the avatar Well, I mean I've I've seen this avatar like oh, yeah I used to use that avatar quite a bit Sure, but but yeah, I it's It's also you've had a beard for so long. I'm like, who's that? Yeah, uh, that's the more time Yep, watching all the like tech TV segments where tom and show up in a segment. Hmm really weird Yeah, especially that haircut. Oh, I mean all of us, you know Like there's every once in a while someone will send me something of me and I'm like, who's that creature? Oh, it's me Wow Not not that I'm disgusted, but I'm just like who is that I guess it's me There are you posted one recently ish that from attack of the show. Yeah The guy bumping a table. I still can't get over what he was like. I I watched that and I'm like, I know that's me You know, I know my mannerisms. I know where I was but I'm like, I don't remember the skit I don't remember what we were like what we were convening I don't remember even being there and that's what happens when you do daily news Exactly and they were talking about this on night attack. They've talked about it several times. They call it show amnesia That's a good way to put it. Yeah Even more intense with a daily show And jury knows this now doing doing his show every day You you pour so much into a show that when you're done your your brain's like, okay Must let go of that for capacity to do other things. Absolutely. Yeah, people Be like, oh remember when you said this or people on twitter or email or like respond without context like Yeah, but the problem is Cats and you're like, I have no idea what you're responding to Totally or like when chris christensen was on our show on friday and I'm like, it's so nice to me And he's like we have met and I'm like in person Because I'm so used to knowing people on the internet But I'm like, oh no, I now I remember but like you had to kind of remind me because I know your face But I just assumed it was like over Skype That's so funny. I don't remember anything I say Just like lost after I'm done. I don't take any responsibility for anything I say Well, that's another beauty of it. Everyone. I just don't I don't remember When my very very very non-technical friend From uh from home was staying with me over the weekend You know, it's kind of sunday night and you know the night's wrapping up and we're you know Pajamas and brushing our teeth and she was like, so what are you going to talk about tomorrow? And I was like, well, I don't know I'll I'll think about it in the morning. We'll find out tomorrow Yeah, I mean there's stuff that happened over the weekend But you know you really kind of you know you start to like do that like heavy download in the morning She was like, aren't you anxious like what if you know, like you don't want to get ahead and I'm like, you can't Yeah It's not advantageous for me to do too much work tonight Like you have to do it as close to show time as possible She was just like, I don't know what you're talking about That is another thing that people don't get about A show like this is you know, I've had guests be like or they're bookers usually, right? Like so what are you going to talk about on the show and I'll and and I'll maybe be able to say like well I want to talk to your Your person about x y and z like great. What else are you going to talk about? I'm like, I don't know I can't see in the future This is gonna be so And both are right like neither is wrong Yeah, of course I would I would love to you know schedule things ahead of time as much as possible But you just can't do that with like With the news cycle and that's another thing about news and anybody who does news is going to be like, oh, yeah No, you're not telling me anything. I don't know but On the one hand on sunday night you can be relaxed because you're like, I don't know what I'm going to talk about tomorrow And there's nothing I can do about it I you don't feel like you're slacking because there isn't but then when it comes to a few hours before showtime That is all you can do Right because you had to wait for the news to break to be able to figure it out and start to prep It and I get a lot of people like well, why can't you meet? You know your show is until 1 30. It's one o'clock Come on. Yeah, no 1 30 Yeah, I'm gone There've been a few people who you know live in the area or whatever, you know And they're always trying to schedule like a lunch thing, you know like for noon So you have time and I'm like no no no no no I'm not live at noon, but like yeah, that is my entire mental capacity You can go to lunch at noon and just be like la la la. Maybe nothing's happening like no way. That's not the way it works Well, just do the thing just rearrange your schedule. It's like, oh, but we're live not only are we daily But are you on the internet? So like is it really live? Yes Oh, that's so true Oh, that's so true. What are you on the internet? Uh, we are we are on the internet We're on the internet right now But we're not going to be for very much longer because that's the end of our video broadcast. Thanks for joining us folks Roger's fine. We promise It'll be back maybe tomorrow We hope And uh, audio is fine Roger's good