 Hi, we're back for one of our coffee chats aren't we and we have just had a lovely lovely chat with Charlie Ward Which will be on both our rumble channels. In fact, we'll do an intro video for that at the end vice perfect How are you doing today vice? I'm good. It was wonderful to start my morning off with you and Charlie I always find well you obviously are one of my besties But Charlie's always just such a bundle of sunshine and just always so positive That's one thing I really respect about Charlie is how Regardless of what's going on. He's always Maintain such a positive stable Perspective of what's happening and so it's always nice to chit chat with him and he's just off camera too He's the same off camera as the as he is on right Catherine. He's just so lovely and that's great Exactly and just like you really feel like you're just chatting with a friend, you know And that's the beautiful thing about this community. So it was it was amazing to start my morning off with the two of you Fantastic and I was just telling you before we started I had a very exciting last night because my new cat arrived at 11 30 last night The people that brought her over to Romania amazing. I will put the link to that charity Below the video because I cannot they've really well done They really really care about the animals. They do such a great job So I had an exciting night with my new baby. She's adorable mitzy So you will be seeing lots more of her soon, but she's settling in really well So today we were going to have a bit of a chat about something that's really close to our hearts, won't we about standing in your own integrity Yeah And this kind of came up with a conversation we were having with charlie actually because I like that he brought this up You know, and I think uh, and I've I've said this before I know Catherine like for 99 percent of the comments that we have on our Channels are lovely and are just so amazing and they're so kind We always get these like comments that are really kind of abusive And we know charlie is one that's experienced that a lot and it got me thinking You know, I know when we have a platform when you see people on on youtube And I think we talked about with david cohen as well. I can't remember if we spoke about this on air off air There's a certain thing that happens with people that they expect you to maybe have more information Or that you know, what's going on and and the truth of the matter is that none of us really do We're all just like everybody watching we're just trying to figure this all out together Pulling our research together to help each other And so one thing I've noticed is that a lot of times People hold other people that they put a certain level of expectation On other people that they don't put on themselves. Yeah And I think that's something we all need to start Looking at even for catherine and me for our own personal like am I holding too much expectation for someone that I wouldn't even hold for myself You know, are we more forgiving? You know, if it let's just say for example Um, you think that something's gonna happen on march 11th. We'll just pick a random date and it doesn't happen Do you hold that same? Do you get mad at yourself the same way you would get mad at somebody on youtube? If they said march 11th, does that make sense like we hold these people up to a level of um Uh that that we don't we don't really hold for ourselves and that comes from that integrity And and being able to look at somebody else in the same as a human being the same as you are Don't I'm making sense. I don't know if I Complete sense and it's something that's come up quite a lot. You know, I see in the person life as well It's like, you know, a lot of people expect other people to do things that they're not doing themselves They're very good at making excuses for why they can't do this or or why they've got an excuse for feeling like this But they expect everyone else to they're just waiting to notice what's wrong or what they can criticize Rather than looking with the eyes of what's right and we've all said this all the way along You know, you when you and I are doing videos most of our videos Are chats between friends and we're sharing out loud the things and talking through problems as they arrive and Talking through what we think about situations, but absolutely not prefer not having any of the answers as your t-shirt shows um More I know a lot again today The more I learn the less. I know. Lovely Liz. Um, yes Shop link is below Um, and you get 15 off and I've got my one to wonder one on again But it's so so important, isn't it because it's like, you know It's like we talk about parenting and this is whether you've got a two-legged child or a four-legged child Children do What you do Not what you say if you're not walking the talk in areas of your life Then that's what you're it's going to trigger you most about other people So we say it all the time, you know, if something's triggering you the great thing about youtube about rumble is it's got an off button Yeah other areas of life haven't necessarily got such an easy off button But if it's triggering us, yes, the person might be dickhead and get which case just don't listen to them Why do you listen to them anyway? But if not, why is it having such a reaction on you and nine times out of 10 is because it's Highlighting at a conscious or unconscious level something in yourself that's unresolved. Yeah, absolutely Absolutely, it's it's your you're noticing and that's that reaction because it's it's like picking out a scab within You and I think moving forward we've talked about this a lot of the meditation series of all that kind of stuff Like we have to start taking accountability for our own emotions instead of projecting them on to somebody else You know as before we were getting on camera. We were talking at you know If somebody disagrees with a topic that we're debating or talking about on a show Absolutely leave a comment give your reasons why you see something in a different perspective That's why we have a platform. We don't have a platform just to have an echo chamber We have a platform so that we can grow and learn But when somebody leaves a comment like on my stuff if someone leaves a comment that's just downright abusive towards me or towards my guest or whatever with no type of like Intellectual conversation. I delete it right away because it's not that's not helping the situation And so if but people who feel you know, I've talked about this on david zublik's show before because I get a lot of Really nasty emails from people in the fundamentalist church because we're going through the missing books of the bible And i'm also breaking down a lot of these really Cult like fundamentalist groups here in the united states And when people send aggressive emails because we're talking about the stuff it has nothing to do with me It is everything to do with them being triggered because there's something with that we've said that's like poke them a little bit And that triggering is not is not for me to have to deal with or david It's for them to then again look look inside themselves and sometimes we react nasty because of fear Because we're afraid what the other person is saying might be right and that we might be wrong It's that fear of that ego we talked last week about the ego comes up and comes out um And so as charlie was saying that I was like this is something really important That we all of us need to look at not just those of us who are on youtube or those of us who You know have a podcast or whatever. It's every human being needs to start Looking at that their own integrity. Am I holding up other people? Whether that's friends family youtubers celebrities in a with a certain level of expectation that i'm not holding on myself You know, that's where that is yeah, that's so important and um What i've seen in sort of daily lives without going into too many details because I can't say too much There's a lot of people that are always expecting others to sort out the world's products So are you seeing any level of abuse? I'm not saying something about it because of course, there's always misinterpretations as well because everyone's got different Standards for all areas of life about what's acceptable and what's not and what your own belief systems are But if you're seeing something that you you triggers deep down in that this isn't right Whether it's for an animal whether it's for a human And you choose to stay silent Then you are part of the problem And and just expecting everyone else to do that for you and do it So sometimes we have to really look inside ourselves and saying what am I contributing energetically to this planet? And am I being the type of person? That buries my head in the sand and and lets these things goes up notice and assume someone else is going to sort it out for me Or am I in whatever way is possible in my circumstance because we're not all saying we've all got to be president or Prime minister or or leader of this but in whatever way possible am I living my life In integrity with my core values. Absolutely in it with an alignment of what I I say You know, I see this in the spiritual community all the time How many people can talk about talk the spiritual talk, but they don't walk the spiritual walk Yeah, you know, it's like they wear the bullet we call that spiritual materialism They wear the outfit, but they don't act in the integrity of the action which they are teaching And that's something that is super super important in every aspect. Yeah, like you're saying you have to be in alignment with what you're saying You have to be in alignment if you expect a certain level of integrity out of somebody else You have to expect that out of yourself if you see something say something if there's something wrong say something about it You know and if you're wrong and they you're giving the other person a chance to explain yourself Sorry and you're up to do that It's his fear of being wrong and offending people isn't it and actually how are you going to feel If something terrible happens because you haven't said something Could you actually live with yourself for that? And if you say something and you've misinterpreted the situation You'll know in your heart. You'll know Whether the person's pulling the willow of your eyes or whether actually you were right to raise the alarm bells or not And we're not always right. We can't get it wrong because you know what I see Isn't always, you know, it can be played with as illusions, but It really worries me actually how many people sort of do do that in terms of an and as he said They're expecting everyone else to know this and say this even to the extent price We've spoken about this before about well So and so said this so let's take an example that we were talking about with Medina and David the other day the floods in Australia lots of different people and and Who are talking about it publicly? I've got different opinions About whether there's a man made whether they're natural and everything and they're all their opinions of what they're getting from Their guides in whatever form that might be So then I will then get people saying you'll ask about this and ask about that And is that person right or is that person right and I'm not no I'm not getting into that because both of those or all of them Are entitled to their own opinions and your job if you're choosing to listen to those people Is say which resonates with me or is it a completely different answer that none of those have even You know, take the flat earth. Is it flat or is it round or is it something completely different? Yeah, doesn't have to be a or b this back and while thinking And it's okay to be like, you know, to be in a place where you don't know We've talked about that before like with what's going on down under like I don't know. I still don't know like and I'm okay with being in that area of not knowing Um, and I learned that again. I think I've mentioned this but david greeg One of my major teachers here in the united states the reason why I was able to even go to india He's just this brilliant. He is one of the top notch like yoga teachers and he's brilliant with philosophy and Somebody asked him a question once in a conference and he was like, I don't know and it was just so like like here was this man who Seems to like really know everything He really practices that you can tell he really practices what he preaches And then to be very comfortable saying like I don't have an answer for you with that particular question That was so inspiring to me to be able to say like it's cool Not to know like yeah fine like you don't have to have an answer for something you can wait a little bit. Um You know, it's it's just it's uh, it's it's okay to be in that area of not not having an opinion yet or having your opinion change That's okay, too Really important one. I mean I have lost count of the times where I've got new knowledge or new information or a new feeling and I've completely changed my opinion on things Yes And that's okay. And so therefore when you're when you're watching somebody else or talking to under somebody else Have that same level of compassion and understanding with them, too That you just because somebody has a different opinion than you or somebody else that you admire Doesn't mean you have to hate that person or leave them like an abuse of comment You just understand that there's a different perspective. You can still like that person I mean how not not you're gonna find no one in life that has the exact same opinion on you on everything Most the closest to in your life have to have differing opinions on things and you still love them and you still respect them And so I think we need to understand too and we've talked about this before captain When I was a kid, I've said this I'll say this till I'm blue in the face. I feel like my generation I was born in 1983 my generation was the very last generation to have a proper childhood It was right before the internet. It was right like really on the cusp of the internet the cusp of cell phones We still had to go to the library and pull books down to do research Um, and we did we were forced to do debate classes in high school in my high school Not even not even going into you like in high school And we were given the side like we didn't pick the side They gave us the side that we and the whole point of that debate was to learn was to learn from Critical it's so so important and I'm loving you know, it's so interesting It's so often if I'm having conversation with people people assume Just because I'm not being really rude and saying no, you're wrong. Well one. I don't know they're wrong Because who's to say that my opinion is any my opinion is no more valid than their opinion and no less valid But equally honestly, I I cannot tell you how many times I've changed my opinion based on new information So oh my god, and isn't that the whole point About learning is like it's like a best movie with a plot chest It's like I've seen something different now and also I'm very very well aware that you know, you can be mistaken There's so much research that shows that What we see it's much more to do with our belief systems and how we're interpreting the electrical Signals coming into our eyes and what's really true, which is why so many Witness statements can't be relied upon because yeah Or you can be so easily manipulated as we're seeing now to believe you saw something that wasn't actually there You I was about to say that I I love watching true crime stuff and watching these detectives like Listening to the investigations and it's it never fails. They multiple different cases They'll say you'll have a crime take place You'll have 20 witnesses there to witness it and all 20 people are going to have a different story Yeah, and they they they're doing it from the best place and most of them unless they're the merger Are genuinely saying what they think they saw but what they think they saw and what they actually saw is so affected by our Motions by our subconscious belief systems by how good your eyesight is by how good your hearing is and everything And you know, it's it's so fascinating I mean I used to be part of a book club Which I absolutely love with a really great group of friends and my favorite bit about it was one It made me read books that I never normally would have read before but secondly I absolutely love the fact that we'd all read the book And we'd all pick out completely different things And it was just fascinating to see because you assume that if you'll watch the same movie if you'll read the same book You're going to get the same information out of it Or I had before and then you realize no not at all, you know and I think the same book twice And you know got completely different information out of it the second time that I completely Miss the first time Do you know it's so funny? We were talking about with Medina and David the movie mid-summer that David Zubick had me watch and I told you to watch Well, when I I saw an episode when I sent you the link I found all these like Commentaries on youtube over this movie. So I went and listened to some and after I was listening to some of them I was like that's so interesting I didn't notice that and maybe you want to go back and re-watch the movie To see exactly what people saw because there was such a apparently a deeper Storyline there that I didn't even pick up on the first time I watched it And so it is but see that's the thing is if you're willing to be open if you're willing to have an open mind Even having your opinions But still having an open mind to hear what other people have to say It can open up a whole new world of understanding for you as an individual You know, it's it is the more I learned the less I know because your opinions are what you know But then when you learn more about other people's perspectives You see a whole different reality and you're right like again, I'll tell you something. I'm I'm now like Blown by my I studying the biblical Mary Magdalene and yashua and knowing that the geography is off Knowing that their story is wrong if you had asked me a year ago If I would believe right now that Mary Magdalene or yashua were of a Jewish descent I would have told you you were crazy. But now with my research Mary Magdalene was Greek Yashua was Egyptian like now my it's like Like this whole, you know, we're all we all have these different perceptions But then if we allow ourselves to actually read different things and it just this whole world opens up to you And again, it doesn't mean that that you're a bad person because what you believed A year ago or last week is not what you believe now It just means you're an evolving person and that's what we all In here to be is evolved and to learn And even evolution we talked about that with david and medina, you know, even that Is a controversy because we think it has to mean this but it means so many different things It's so so much bigger than that and it I love the fact of that because You know what we also I think it comes up for me a lot is when we're talking about this we're saying this is the way We see things without any expectation That others should agree with us and I think that's a really important point because So many people think if you're talking about something you're trying to ram your opinion down their throat But we're just having a conversation and saying that's the way we see things And it makes me laugh when people say well so and so said this and therefore it's true And I'm like well that might be your truth But it doesn't have to be my truth and that is absolutely fine Well, I want to say too with people like You know so and so said this and we see that a lot, but what do you think? Yes, you know I don't think most of the people most of our friends and our colleagues and peers on this platform That I know personally don't want you to hold what they have to say as the gospel You know, they're just putting out their opinions and what they know from what they have so far And so if you're relying on you know, what I say or Catherine says or Charlie Ward or anybody What they say as the gospel then you're doing yourself a disservice Because we want to hear your opinion too Like I we always encourage people to leave their opinions in the comment section because Catherine and I want to hear What you have to say too because you're a part of this conversation as well You don't have to believe everything we say it's it's an ever-evolving changing thing So I would say for people that are paying on to what somebody else says First of all that other person you're listening to is also a human being like you and therefore It's susceptible to making mistakes. It's susceptible to having their own perception their own eyes on something So Listen to what that person says if it resonates with you, it doesn't it does if it doesn't it doesn't What do you think you know and constructive comments on that because sorry to interrupt but one of the most interesting Um, which is a polite way of saying experiences we have is when we speak to certain people and then suddenly you get a barrage of I've lost all respect for you because I can't believe that you're speaking to this person And that for me is not the type of comment I'm talking about and you might say well You can't be picking she said I can because if you're going to make it personal so I trust anyone who's listening to this to make your own decisions up about everyone Including me. Yeah, and I would appreciate the same respect back and it doesn't mean I'm right And you're wrong and it doesn't mean you're right, and I'm wrong and it's absolutely fine If we disagree about different people that you have got to go with your intuition But what what I don't like seeing is people being abusive About other people so I'm going to put a very specific example right here So yeah, every time I speak child would I get people saying oh my god I've lost all respect for you that you're speaking to him. Have you not seen the video he's sundered and I'm like I have and I have one opinion on that video and you might have another that's fine But if your opinion is just because his son's made a video on him That that means that I shouldn't be speaking to charlie because if it does you're going to disrespect everything I say Then that's your issue not mine. I might have seen the appear sure Well, I don't have to agree with you on the video and I respect your opinion if you think that and in which case Don't listen to it and and please don't listen to it because why would you put yourself through that? Yeah, and that's kind of doing what the other side does too. It's the idea of censorship And and and that whole idea of cancel culture, which is something I'm absolutely Opposed to is cancel culture. That's yeah, that's not what we're here We stand for on this side of the aisle as far as I'm concerned We don't censor unless we have to watch our words on youtube But you guys know that we have to do that But we've come up with clever ways of saying what we have to say and you guys know what we're talking about And and canceling people just because they maybe have made a mistake in their life You know and charlie actually I haven't seen the video But charlie actually brought that up in our conversation today and he's owned up to stuff and I that's amazing Like if you can sit there and say like I have so much I mean the sexiest thing a person can do is be like listen. I fucked up Exactly from that. That is the most attractive thing that someone can do And that means that they have and I've said this before with shantel like from inquiries rising africa these these these things that happen to us these these Things mistakes will say mistakes we make these things we do if we learn from that mistake Then it's not a mistake because we learn from that and we we we it's that's the alchemy right that's turning the lead into gold and and so if we are on this side of this of this Argument of our global times right now if we're canceling people because of a state of a mistake they made Or we're trying to censor people because we don't agree with their opinion. Then we're no better than the other side We're no better than the mainstream media Yeah, and so I'm not I don't want to cancel anybody because there's mistakes I've made in my life and if we if all of us sat turn around sit and look at the your past life If there's probably stuff we've all done That if someone knew about we would be canceled as well So And when we're not talking about so we you know, there's opinions with respect And there's a difference isn't there and it's like what is your intent behind something? So if you're saying something Or writing something what is your new intent? Is your intent to make the world a better place? Is your always your intent to make someone else feel bad? Yeah, and there's a huge difference. Are you throwing a temper tantrum? Are you having a discussion? Yeah, and if you are having a tension tantrum, which I do frequently Admit it and say sorry, you know, and that's another good good lesson as well, but There's so much we're learning on this journey, isn't it? It's it's just fantastic because we are all learning so much and it's sort of Everyone who's going through this everyone who's taking the time to question everything and And listen to different people and listen to themselves and looking at different sources of information then they might have before and And resonating with some and not resonating with others that that is part of life's journey, isn't it? Absolutely Absolutely, and I will say too we talked about the lionizing like I know none of us on this platform Want us to be want to be lionized. I don't want to be lionized like I'm not Not a celebrity. I don't I know I'm not I'm just like everybody else And so I think when we stop the lionizing well, we will stop putting that that level of expectation On people that we don't put on ourselves. And so yeah And I think a lot of the other thing is I mean we've said it a lot and it's nothing to do We talk about having a channel and things like that, but the important thing for me is find people That you can have fascinating Open non-judgmental conversations with because it's so healing on every level, isn't it? And the reason we quite often say we'll start your own channel or something It doesn't have to be a channel. You don't have to press record, but we have so many people Don't have at the moment people in their immediate family or community Whether they can have these conversations with and that can be really really hard for people. Can't they come on Get that question out and I think that's why a lot of us started channels to be honest with you Because I've said this I mean if it wasn't for my channel, I wouldn't know you Catherine I wouldn't know all these people that are now my best friends, you know that we because we literally I Catherine I talk all day, you know, they're like we literally text all day Um, and there's Stephanie and I text all there's multiple people that we talk to all day that we all do shows together And um, if I hadn't created my channel, I wouldn't have found Catherine You know and and that and that since I'm a little spoiled because that's been my day talking to people who have A lot of the same ideas that I do, you know, and so yeah, you know, Stephanie our friend Stephanie. She uh, She has groups that she's formed Um, she does spiritual perspectives that are great awakening and she actually has these groups of people that Zoom together as support groups and they've all now it's evolved so big that people are now breaking off and doing their own Support groups away from Stephanie. She's helping them coordinate So that yeah friends and they're people all over like I hop when I can't all hop on to some of these calls with these groups If I if I'm free and they're people all over the world like just chit chatting and at this point She's been doing it for so long now that they're all like literally friends with each other and are texting each other and And so it's creating this uh, these uh, these people don't have most of these people don't have channels They're not they don't want to put their face out there like we do. I don't know if Catherine and I are brave or Stupid for putting our face out there sometimes It's definitely a double-edged sword But yeah, so it's out there and I'm actually what I'll do in my output Stephanie's the email address for the support group So if there's somebody out there that is looking for friends, you're looking for people to talk to I'll put that email address that she has specifically for that down in the description box below so that you can get it To listen to that to me so I can do the same because I love the fact that she's done that It's just It's a lot of work for her but she's doing it because we know how important is we do completely sympathize that You know and sometimes you do vent And perhaps people vent in a comment because they've got no one else to vent to and I really get that I do get it That's why I'm so grateful that we can have these conversations because it's like a problem I know a problem shared is a problem halved or you can say a problem shared as a problem transferred But it's not like that if your intent is not to dump your shit on someone else But to talk out loud and and open up your perspective of the world and how you view things because I will look At a situation from my level of consciousness and then Bryce or David or shanty or someone will come in And they'll say oh, but you haven't looked at it from this one and what about this one? I was like, oh my gosh. No, I didn't even know to look from that direction and And that's what said lovely because if your intent is to To grow and be a better person then it's not dumping on someone else No, and that's what these support groups are because again I've sat in some of them before when I can and it literally is people talking about some of the most vulnerable parts of their lives They start off talking about the great awakening and then and they become And all these people become these like voices of friends that are helping each other And like I said, even she does have people from all over the world So let's say like, you know on the east coast here on five hours behind you guys in the uk Well, let's say and that's how stephanie where she's on the east coast as well Well, let's say there's like multiple people from the uk that are having a hard time getting in the times of the east coast Well, then Stephanie will give you free free reigns to like do your own group And so all these are popping up and it's just amazing and that's and that and that does help That the groups that I've sat on with her would none of us are therapists None of us were just there being friends with each other And it's it's really does shift when you have people that you can talk to and again get their opinion And if you have an issue in your life that you don't want somebody's opinion on Then don't bring it up for that time Let it will keep it with you for a moment before you're ready to be vulnerable to other people's perspective You know, so Yeah, so I will put that email address down below and I'll also put a link to her channel down below too So since we uh since we brought her up so uh, so it's really good I love the work she's doing and I'm just loving all these people stepping forward And doing something in whatever way and it doesn't have to be anything big, you know I've got the most gorgeous neighbor Who after the storms has just gone around clearing up after everything clearing the pathways making them safe Tape up the ones that aren't safe and no one asked him to do it He's just as busy as the rest of us But that's his thing because that's how he can contribute and it's so so important to our community So everyone's got something that they can communicate Can contribute and all of them are just as important as All the other bits. It doesn't have to be something dramatic. It doesn't have to be something big But it's so brilliant. So shout out to richard. You're an absolute star Because we brought talked about the starfish story, which I'll I'll say again after this You said that when my parents got divorced Now we live in the area of the world. We get a lot of tornadoes We were used to tornadoes here in in georgia and there was one day that we had a tornado and A tree had Blown up over our house and knocked the roof off roof off of our porch in the back in the house I grew up in and because my dad wasn't around and my mother didn't know what to do Well that morning after the tornado she went outside and all the men in the neighborhood were already out there in our yard With chainsaws getting for my mom because they knew my mom was my mom was a single it makes me emotionally into this day They knew my mom was a single mom at that time and you know Women in the south aren't at that point weren't really raised to know how to that's man's job You know to do that kind of stuff and so they stepped in and without even they were all out there with their chainsaws Moving the tree for my mom so that they could get the roof off of the backyard and kind of help her get it set because You know, and they no one asked them that that's that's that's the beauty of humanity It's like it's it doesn't have to be a grand deos effort that you're doing. I was telling Catherine growing up down here We always were told the story of the starfish And after this huge hurricane came through and all these starfish were thrown onto the shore from the ocean There was a man walking down the beach picking up one starfish after they were throwing it back in the ocean Another man walked up and said what are you doing dude? Like you're wasting your time You're not going to be able to save all these starfish and he picks up another starfish and throws it in He goes well just save that one Exactly Yeah, and that's all it takes is just the one that's why you and I you know, you we've got dogs from Romania and India and And it's like yeah every life matters I know you're not allowed to say that phrase anymore, but it's so so true And if you're the one that needs that help You cut you can't Everyone can't sort out every problem in the world But you can sort out the problems that you've got awareness of and that you've got some skill to do it and it's just It's just such a wonderful When you see people doing that it just really restores your faith in everything and it makes you think I know everything's going to be okay. Yeah, absolutely Absolutely. Oh, I love our chats. I love our coffee chats. Um, I hope if anyone listens It's helpful and if it's not Um, that's absolutely fine if it's not for you either But I really hope everyone's having a really magical day and that they've got someone in their lives that they can have these chats with I just had an idea when we're when all this is over and we're able to travel again I think we should go on on a tour of coffee chats and invite anybody that town to like meet us at a coffee store And just have a chit chat and just go around Different towns We're going to be around Crop up and sort of saying I hope I meet each day and it's really funny because before this started I'm not a naturally huggy person. I hug a lot of animals, but I'm not a naturally hunker person until I know them Um, whereas, you know, sort of I see my children's generation have grown up hugging everyone And we didn't it was more like, you know, someone that you knew really well rather than a general greeting and I've completely changed now and it's like The go around the world and just just meeting all these people and saying high five Good at you. How lovely to meet you. Let's all have a nice cup of coffee together and Enjoy. Yeah, let us in the comment section if you want us to like do that in any United States England or wherever and just like go around a different give you a schedule and be like We'll be at this we'll find some small business coffee shops that are and we'll and we'll sit around and have coffee and chit chat for a couple hours and get to meet everybody face to face and You get to meet us in person and we get to meet you in person and you know, and and that would be so fun Because I would love this is so fun and I think it's coming really soon I mean, we really are Seeing a lot of shifts at the moment. Of course There's a lot of hardship going on in certain places and and sending You know, genuine love and concern out there, but I think this whole situation has brought Globally, it's all so much closer and I'm you know, personally, eternally grateful for that me too We're all just walking each other home We are oh, thank you so much. So hopefully we are speaking to nick alviar tomorrow night Yes, of course. Good luck to you, Nick. Um and um have a really wonderful day everyone Will we sign off should we say why should we have people send prayers out to him or Yeah, I think so you maybe people know that he was at the thing that happened in january Back a couple years snow about a year ago will over a year ago. We all know what we're talking about So just put your prayers out there and hopefully we'll see him tomorrow. So Love to everyone. Bye guys