 Yes, welcome back everyone from the break and Sey found the scriptures and he is clarified here that it is 430 years 430 years so then yeah there was a delay from what God had mentioned to Abraham but we know that this happened because of you know Moses's actions. So that's very interesting. I mean ultimately the point that we take with us is we have to go by God's instruction and wait for the God given vision to unfold. Okay, so we depend on the Lord we wait on Him for Him to make things happen according to His timeline. So this whole thing about the Cairo's moments and being led by the spirit now becomes very very important for us. Okay, so having clarified that now the next thing for us to remember is that the God given vision we may be very excited about it you know the way Joseph was excited about the dream that God gave us but his brothers did understand it with the same spirit. Similarly in our lives we might be excited about ministry but even the people who are close to us we not get know what God has been putting in our hearts. So we must not get discouraged by that because we've seen in scripture that people like Moses, see even Moses he was called to be a deliverer to the children of Israel but the brethren it says we need those who belong the Jewish people they themselves did not understand that Moses was called to deliver them. When things like this happen you know we must not let that discourage us. Now even in the example of Apostle Paul he was miraculously supernaturally saved on the road to Damascus and then he carried this burden of ministry in his heart. But even the apostles were scared to receive Saul. Okay, so we later that Barnabas kind of did the whole mediation between the apostles and Saul and then we see you know Saul emerging as one of those very mighty apostles. So that was a hesitation and even among those who belonged to the kingdom of God when Saul wanted to preach the gospel. So this can happen to any one of us but we must not let that bring us down anyway. Continue to carry the God given vision and trust that you know God will at the right time God will open doors and also God will bring clarity. Both to us and the people around us. So maybe gradually they too will begin to see what God is doing in our lives and they will support us in the work that he wants us to do. So that is also something for us to know. Now the God given vision will face demonic opposition. And that is a given because Satan does not want God's purposes to be fulfilled. Now looking at the life of Jesus you remember when Jesus was born at that time Herod had ordered the execution of children around Jesus's age because that's the plan of the enemy. He wants to get rid of God's purpose and the God given vision like if you consider if you can just you know draw a parallel and say like Jesus is the vision Jesus is God's vision. What was Satan trying to do he was trying to kill God's vision right from being released on the earth. Now this is seen time and again in many instances one example that is used in our notes is that of Nehemiah. Nehemiah goes to build the broken down walls of the city and at that time certain people rise up against him and they start to question him. They start to discourage him. They ask him things like what is this thing that you are doing will you rebel against the king. So you know that it was already a daunting task that he needed to complete and in a record period of time and when you're trying to aim for something as great as that and you hear people taunting you it can break your spirit. But look at Nehemiah's response. He says the God of heaven himself will prosper us. Therefore be his servants will arise and build and you have no heritage or right or memorial in Jerusalem. So that shows the strength of his character. He's not willing to give up even when discouraging comments are hurled at him. So in this manner Satan can oppose us and he can try to like whatever motivation we are carrying he can dilute it but we must not give up. Nehemiah continued to do the work of God. He continued to stay on track and similarly we too should serve the purposes of God faithfully. Now what are some of the opposing things that the enemy can bring? You know when Satan comes to attack us usually it's not in a very direct way or let's put it this way it's subtle. So obviously Satan comes and says okay I'm the devil and I'm doing this in your life. We say okay I rebuke you Satan or I'm not going in that path because you're doing this against me. So we will know how to recognize but what he generally does is he'll come in subtle ways and then we won't even know that we are going down the wrong path. So one way in which he can dilute our motivation he can sort of cloud our vision is distraction. Now he can bring other things which are also important before us and then we in our innocence or without even consulting God we get distracted. We don't discern but we think yeah everything is good so we give our attention to other things and we get distracted from the actual vision that God has for us. So distraction is a very subtle thing which can happen to us but when distraction happens the challenge is that the amount of energy and focus that we have for the vision that is dissipated. And so we are not able to give our best resources our best attention to the vision and we end up delaying doing what God wants us to do. So distraction can happen in a very subtle way or we could also take up diversions. Again Abraham is a good example he chose to birth Ishmael and he thought that that is the direction in which God was leading him but these diversions can again sap our energy and they can take us away from the focus that God has for us. We care for diversions. The demonic oppositions can also come in the form of dispute. Now dispute could be like internal internal disputes generally because maybe when we are working for God's purpose in the case of Nehemiah he was working together with other people. Internally the enemy brought trouble internally also he tried to cause certain issues but it took the wisdom of God for Nehemiah to deal with everything. So strife disputes these things can take us away from the purpose and the vision of God. Again these things happen in a very subtle way and that's the reason you know when we talked about church planting we talked about the vision statement. When we put things clearly right at the outset it's easy for people to carry on with those values. And even if some misunderstandings arise here and there we can settle them and say hey no this is our vision this is our mission this is how we are going to progress. So internal disputes strife can cause the vision of God and particularly for churches and all that to kind of get clouded. Then demonic opposition can also bring discouragement and discouragement. It will reduce our energy it will delay us from stepping into God's purpose and as the term says discouragement so that there's the courage that we need to do what God is calling us to do. So we might lose it. I am thinking of Gideon how he had heard these stories of Midianites that they used to come and take away the harvest and the produce of the land and they were oppressing the forefathers. So that was in his mind the whole time and we see that Gideon was hiding he was hiding in the like you know the fleshing floor place and he was not willing to take on the energy because in his mind he was carrying discouragement it has happened for generations whatever we produce that has taken away. So let me hide let me you know do my work let me keep my harvest let me be careful I don't think I have the courage or the ability to face the enemy. So discouragement can also keep us stagnant and it will prevent us from stepping into the purposes of God. These are all ways in which the enemy can come against us and we have to be careful. So when we step up with a vision that God has given us no like it's not a prophetic word or anything that you know we will face challenges. It's not like that but you know we do understand on the earth Satan is totally against the purposes of God. So it's a given he will try to come against us in any way possible and usually it'll be a very subtle thing because that way he'll know that our guards will be down and then you know he can just bring in discouragement disappointment all kinds of challenges you know that will keep us away from God's vision. So that is something for us to be careful about. Okay and the next thing here about a God given vision is that it is always bigger than the individual. Now Nehemiah and him building the walls of the city is a great example. Initially Nehemiah too he talks about how God put something in his heart and he did not tell anybody about it. He kept it to himself but later on in that same passage you'll find some verses where he is ready to share that vision with others. So you know there are things that God can put in our hearts but that doesn't mean that we are the only individual who is going to fulfill that purpose of God. Every vision will need more hands on board and we must be willing to allow people to come alongside us in fulfilling God's vision which he has put on our hearts and we are talking about kingdom building. So the God given kingdom vision will involve more than one person. Okay so which means it is going to take more than just me or more than just you to do what God is calling each one of us to do. So then how do we work? We have to learn to let others step into the vision. Okay and also learn to work with them. Learn to cast the vision, clarify the vision to them, learn to work with them to fulfill whatever God has put in our hearts. So we see Nehemiah doing that. He engaged others they began to build with him and that's how he could build in 52 days. Otherwise just imagine only Nehemiah doing it it would not have worked. So he strategized, he communicated. So these are all things that we have to learn. How to plan, how to get people on board, how to work with them, how to get those short term goals, long term goals. So practical things that we have to let people step into the vision of God. Now the vision is large and the vision has to do with several years, several generations are involved in it. God will also give the plans and the strategy in line with that. So we have to trust God and then we have to make provision for it. We have to make provision for it. So we must be willing to let other people step into the vision, work with other people. Paul is a classic example. He calls so many people, his partners, fellow worker, you know, a co-labourer, fellow labourer, fellow servant. So there are a lot of people that Paul worked with. Some names given here, Barnabas, Silas, Luke, Andronica's, Junior, Timothy, Lucy, Jason, Titus, Clement. So the list just goes on and then there are so many others whose names are not mentioned. But that is how Kingdom building is supposed to be. It's going to take many of us to do the work of the Kingdom. So we must learn to work with other people. Yes, yeah. And when the vision is fulfilled, it causes all of us to celebrate together. And even when things do become challenging and difficult, again, you know, we kind of learn to deal with it together. And these are all things of wisdom that we have to learn from God. So a God given vision will involve more than just a single person. The next section here talks about other people, find and fulfill their lives calling by participating in a God given vision. Obviously, you know, God is the master orchestrator. We talked about the Holy Spirit as the director. He knows how people will fit their parts. He knows at what period people will enter the scene, know what role they will perform, what skills they carry. So we depend on God. We depend on God and we cast the vision. When we cast the vision, maybe I'm just giving you an example. An apostolic ministry where God wants several churches to be planted and that is what God has put on the heart of a leader. Now the leader might wonder, how will, like if I tell people about church planting, if I equip them for church planting, I mean, do you mean to say people will step up the way they did, you know, during the times of the revivals and, you know, the missionaries who stepped out in those days. Do you think our people will do that? I don't think so. But you know what? If God has put that vision on our hearts, hopefully we must be led to share it at the right time. And you'll be amazed to see under that apostolic anointing, so many people might actually be ready to step out and go plant churches, right? But when they do that, what's happening? They are fulfilling God's vision for their life. And God is the one who kind of interconnects, you know, every vision. So it's beautiful and it's even hard to describe how God does this. But, you know, people also step into their purpose. People also step into their vision as we lead. And we must trust that the God-given vision, as it rightly says, it's given by God. God is able to lead us. He's also able to lead others and equip others and release the purposes of God through their lives as well. Yeah. So the next section here basically just talks about how purposes are interlinked within the body of Christ and God can cause that to happen. Different visions get interconnected and we go by that. Okay. Finally, there's this last portion here, talks about how vision is important, but at the same time having not just a big vision, but a big heart, okay? Makes all the difference. Why does having a big heart, you know, why should having a big heart have any importance? Because when we have a big heart, right, we will fully depend on God and we will not give the works of the flesh any place in us. We can allow other people to come step into the vision. There will be no element of jealousy, insecurity, competition, right? So self-centeredness, things like that. So a big heart will allow people to step in. It will assist people when they need that. And also, you know, whenever wonderful things happen, we attempt for mighty things for the kingdom of God. We can all rejoice together if someone else has done it and not us. We'll be okay to give them the credit, right? So it's only a big heart that can have this kind of response. So get a hold of God's vision, God-given vision, and all the things that we talked about. Step into that vision, hold on to that vision and also allow others to journey alongside us to fulfill that vision. So that's a little bit about the vision for our lives, the vision that God gives for the kingdom of God. And there are a couple of other APC publications that have been listed here for our reference and if you have the time it will be good, you know, you can go and read them. So some titles are fulfilling God's purpose for your life, then giving birth to the purposes of God, don't compromise your calling, a time for every purpose. So there are four publications that you can also refer to and you get greater depth of understanding on these things. So I just want to pause for a little bit here and then we will proceed. Okay, so Tanu has shared something on the chat. It says 400 plus 40 is for 14 or 30. So different explanation, 400 is from exactly after Isaac's birth. Okay, he was born after 30 years, 30 years to prophecy of Abraham, which was your offspring or his changes in life. Okay, and Exodus is dying. They let each other be killed. Okay, so then Tanu, this brings another explanation. No, that Moses didn't waste time or God had accounted for the wasting of Moses' time. What do you think? No, no, Moses didn't waste time. It was exactly 400 years that they came out. There's a detailed explanation but it's way too long. One is the prophecy is your offspring. God is telling Abraham your offspring, which counts from the birth of Isaac. And the Exodus 1240 is saying that the Egyptians, they lived in Egypt for 430, not from the offspring but from the time that Abraham was there. So it counts 430 in total. But 400 is the exact number that they walk out and the slavery time is only 210. It's not total 400. 400 years is what they spent as strangers. The offspring of Abraham have spent as strangers in a land that is not up there. That is what is fulfilled. Okay, thank you Tanu for that detailed research over there. So in this case, the time that Moses spent, so say this is the understanding that we have now, that those 40 years that Moses spent in the wilderness, God had sort of taken account of it already. Okay, and I'm reminded of one scripture which I want to share with you guys. Yeah, Isaiah 46 verse 10. So this verse says, God knows the end from the beginning. So I think when he was prophesying to Abraham, like when God was speaking to Abraham, he knew what Moses was going to do. Okay, so yeah, that's very interesting. Yes, so any, yes, go ahead please. No, I just said, okay, thank you very much. Thank you very much. Yeah, sure. Thank you. Thank you Tanu also for sharing these details. Any other thoughts, comments before we move on to the next section? And then also we didn't take account of the time that God had your cry and then the time that there was a delay because of the hardness of Pharaoh's heart. It was now immediately that Moses came there to Egypt that Pharaoh allowed them to go. But we didn't count the number of years that they stayed waiting on God to allow them to be able to move because of the hardness of Pharaoh. So despite the fact that yes, Moses had a calling of God to deliver them and he went out of Egypt. Also, we have to take an account of those times, but I believe that everything worked at the time that God wanted to be. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean, we could kind of keep going into this and researching it further to get all the bits and pieces. But as you finally said towards the end, it's God's timing and God knew the timing and it was worked out no matter what who did it kind of worked out. And yeah, I think we'll leave it at that. If it's okay everyone, otherwise we'll be here calculating the 400 years, 430 years plus and you're free to kind of do that research outside of this session. So we have the general understanding here, so I think that is good for us. So two more questions here. Shri Kumar, in that case, many can miss their vision. Miss the vision as in how Shri Kumar, we are saying that God can still restore if people come back. Yeah, that is true, but as you said that how the enemy tried to deviate and try to deviate the focus. And in case if those people will not able to come back or because of the pressure of their life or whatever it is. So in that case, is it not possible that they can miss their vision and they just miss the task which is given to them? Is it not possible? It's possible, it's very much possible. Like solve, no? Yeah, that's true, very true. I just said this because many people can miss this vision because they might have a call like as you said and because of the lack of proper guidance or the proper knowledge or the proper clarity or proper commitment. So that was my, let's just want to know that is it possible that they can miss their visions? Yes, Shri Kumar, it is possible. Thank you. It's so true. God can restore, but at the same time if there's no cooperation from us then it is possible for people to miss the vision also. So that's a sad part. Thank you. Thank you. Sister Rupa, I saw your hand raised. You have something to add? Yes, ma'am. But I cannot hear Brother Shri Kumar, Isaac and Tarun when they are sharing. I cannot hear them. Is it only me that we are not able to hear? Others, I don't know, ma'am. I just wanted to share that in the 15th chapter when Abraham, God talks with Abraham, he also says and they shall come back here in the fourth generation for the iniquity of Amorites is not at complete. We can also think that God is giving a longer rope and grace for the people in the promise, in the canonites. Some more time also. We can think that way. Maybe that took some more years for them to, that aspect also we can add. Ma'am, I just thought that it may not be. Yeah. Sure. No, no, no. Thank you. Thank you for just sharing what you're thinking. So yeah, it's possible. It's possible, Sister Rupa. So what I'm saying is whatever, I do not know from what Tarun shared, it seems like it was an exact 400 years, but then from what Isaac is sharing and your thoughts. Now, I don't know exactly was it 400 or around 400, but whatever it is, I'm just thinking that God knows the end from the beginning. He knows how to accommodate various decisions that people will make. But there's a scriptural job that your plans no one can plot. So God knows how to release his purposes on the earth. And if some people list the vision, God still knows. Like for example, David and Saul. It was God's desire that Saul would take up the role of the king. But unfortunately, he didn't want to carry that vision. But God had raised up a David to still go ahead and provide leadership to his people. So what I'm thinking is, see, there is a vision given to us. Whatever we do with it, the right way or the wrong way, God is a great God. He's a sovereign God. And he knows how to release his purposes on the earth. So that's what I'm thinking. Yeah, sure. Yes, Ma'am. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. OK, anything else? Anything else? I mean, it's a very interesting topic. We could sit here all through the semester, but we will have to move on. Does anyone have a question? Maybe no. So all right, then let's proceed to the next chapter here. So far, we've talked about the vision and how God puts it in our hearts and how he wants us to initiate it, execute it, fulfill it, and all of that. Some principles regarding that we've looked at. Now we'll come to the Kingdom Builder's Lifestyle. So while it is important what we do, it is more important who we are. So the focus is on us. It's on our motivation. It's on our character. It's on our lifestyle. And this chapter is a very, very key chapter, because it addresses the core issues within each one of us. So Kingdom Builder's Lifestyle. Yeah, so as Kingdom Builders, we can get preoccupied with the good works that we do for the Kingdom of God, and especially when we are awakened to the fact that God has a dream for my life and God has a ministry for everyone. Let me step into the ministry and we start doing the works of the ministry. We can completely get lost in the works and forget about other aspects, which could even be the work that God wants to do in us. We just busy doing the works that he wants to do through us and we don't give him any time to do the work that he wants to do in us. So we can get distracted. We can get sidetracked. And we might not prioritize the lifestyle that we have other people who we are as Kingdom Builders. But this chapter is going to bring the focus back on three key things that every Kingdom Builder needs to think about and work on. First one is Godly character. Second one is spiritual maturity. And third one is stewardship. And it's important for all the Kingdom Builders. So the first one, Godly character. What does character has to do with a person's basically moral fiber, the moral fiber of an individual. What makes up that individual, we could describe different things to that make up an individual, their personality, their temperament, the nature that they carry and all that. So all that describes the character of an individual. So the character of an individual is who a person really is. It is true that we can have a very different image for the world and we can be a totally different person. That we alone know. Now our reputation is not our character. Our character is who we are when we are by ourselves. The secret choices that we make, that nobody is aware of, that describes our character, our words, our attitudes, our decisions, our thoughts. This describes our character. So overall, when we talk about the character of an individual, it points to the value system, the value system that an individual has. And that is extremely important. We can do great things for God, but if our moral fiber, if our value system crashes, I mean, obviously God will be happy that we are able to do these things for him. But how does it bring glory to God when we have failed in terms of our character? So for a kingdom builder, it's important to grow, develop our character, maintain that character, maintain that character throughout. Whatever God calls these two big things, small things, that's not the issue. But the character with which we progress as kingdom builders is very, very important. And Joseph is a wonderful example. We said that he worked for 11 years in Potiphar's house. And in Genesis chapter 39, we need about his work in Potiphar's house and how he was trusted for being excellent. He was trusted for being faithful to the extent that we are told that we gave him everything, charge over everything. However, Potiphar's wife, she did not have the right intentions and we told her that she laid long in eyes on him and invited him to lay with her. But at that point, when you read the passage there, you see every day she was tempting him, calling him and all that. But he said, no, it takes character to stand for what is right. Joseph says things like, how can I sin against God by doing this evil thing? So he's directly accountable to God. He's not even wondering whether it will hurt Potiphar who has entrusted him with these responsibilities. But he says, how can I do this sin against God? The master has withheld nothing from me except you because you are his wife. So he has that strong character and he continues to say no until such a point where there's nobody in the house and she grabs the hold of him and then he runs. His government is with her and based on that, they accuse Joseph and he's in prison. But throughout all this, we're talking about his character because it was not his reputation. He could have made any choice that he wanted and he could have covered it up. I am so influential in Potiphar's house and I know how to hide things or it doesn't matter what choices I make in secret. So Joseph never thought like that. He was always in his heart. He was directly accountable to God and that revealed his character. Despite him being tempted all along showed the strength of his character and that nothing could weaken. Even continual temptation could not weaken his character. So going by this example, each one of us must develop strong moral character. There are so many other examples in scripture. Jesus himself tempted in every way yet without sin is what we are told about in Daniel. Daniel also so many things in an early age we see that he had devotion for God and that would have strengthened his character. Later on when he was serving in Babylon there were opportunities for him to eat defiled food or bow down before the king and all. But he never gave in to those things. So Daniel is again another excellent example. So we will look at a few things that affect our character. One is our choices and our decisions that we make all along. So in the case of Daniel from a young age he was dedicated to God. So in Daniel chapter 1 it was we see his convictions. When there was food which was defiled every candidate who was chosen under that king, Daniel refuses it. He and his friends they say just give us vegetables give us water and basically we will not have defiled food. That was his way of expressing worship to the true and living God. But that tells us what kind of convictions he carried and he developed that character from an early age. In Daniel's case we also see that he kept good company. He had friends like Shamra, Misha, we read about them also going into the fire. They go into the fire they come out even without the smell of fire. So they were we confide in our closest friends we get advice from our close friends. So he was careful about the company that he kept first Corinthians 1533 it says do not be deceived evil company corrupts good character. So Daniel had good friends then Daniel developed discipline over time we see that when the decree was passed for people to bow down before the idol of the king he doesn't do it. He goes to his prayer place and he bows down looking in the direction of the temple and he prays Daniel 610 it says the end of that verse he prayed and gave thanks before his god as was his custom since early days. So custom since early days is referring to some discipline that he had developed over the years and discipline and practice will also help us develop this strong moral character. Through adversity and challenges Daniel went through different situations but in everything you see him depending on god in everything you see him praying trusting God trying to receive revelation from God and all that. So adversity even through challenging times he held on to God so all these things actually contribute to a strong moral character and for us as kingdom builders we must learn to grow in our character why is a character important character I'll just make one statement and then we'll talk about why character is important In kingdom building we can be misled by the thought that gifting and anointing skill and experience and all these things are the most important because we want to accomplish mighty things for God but actually the emphasis should be more on character and lifestyle than on gifting and anointing because gifting and anointing yes thank God by grace he gives it to us he gives it to us and as we seek him we follow after him abundantly pours out but character and lifestyle that's where we really have to cooperate with God every individual has to cooperate with God and grow develop say yes to God so many times in so many things and that's not easy so develop in character and lifestyle kind of kingdom builder's lifestyle is not at all easy so we must make sure that we are giving priority to character and lifestyle above gifting and anointing now when we talk about the kind of leaders that were chosen by the early church the instructions that Paul gave Timothy we've talked about deacons and bishops he gives Timothy pointers and says okay you should be like this any bishop should be what? blameless husband of one by temperate sober minded good behavior hospitable able to teach not given to one so as you read the description there's no mention of the anointing and gifting yet but he starts by saying look for the character of the individual look for you know the model fiber that takes up that individual and that kind of a person you could assign him the responsibility to be an elder or you know be a pastor of the church so Godly character is the foundation for ministry Godly character is the foundation for kingdom building okay and we must never forget that because it's very easy for us to get lost in other things the accomplishments but God is looking for something deeper than that and that is our character okay and the true strength of our ministry is not I mean it may not sound right but the statement here in our notes also says that the true strength of our ministry is not our anointing but our character why are we saying this see there is also a passage in Matthew where Jesus says that if we pour out new wine in old wineskin it will break so for new wine we need new wineskin new wineskin is you know some form like a leather container which will hold the new wine and the new wine goes through a process of releasing gases and all that so when there is like new wineskin it has the flexibility to expand okay and then the new wine can mature but when the new wine is poured into old wineskin are we talking about you know poor character what happens God is releasing the anointing but the individual may not be able to keep it for very long now Saul is a classic example was he anointed by God to be king very much yes but did it last no it didn't is it because God did not want Saul to be king it's very clear that God did intend but yeah later he felt bad that he had chosen Saul but it was God's intention for Saul to come into the fullness of what God had called him to do but his character so he was taken over by jealousy and envy and pride selfish ambition and later on rebellion he is trying to compete with the role of a priest Samuel is supposed to do Saul is doing all kinds of things so character the poor character could not hold the anointing and sooner or later crashed and then God had to actually elevate David and reposition bring in another individual who could carry on the work so anointing is important but anointing requires the new wine skin and the wine skin is character it is said that anointing can take you places where character can keep you but if there is no character anointing can take you places but then it's just a matter of time you know before like you know you are not able to live for God in a righteous way honor him glorify him and all that with the anointing which he has given so yes kingdom building is about going to great heights for the Lord but we cannot sustain it without right character good moral character so the emphasis is over there so our moral character is our true strength it is our true strength it's the person who we are not just you know our giftings and our callings and the anointing which is on display that's all you know over and above but the person who we are that is our true strength so our inner strength our moral character you know it is determined by things like how we withstand adversity how we stand up for God in the face of temptation you know how we how we perform under pressure how we make right choices when it's definitely not easy to make these right choices so ultimately it is our character which is important life must speak so people may forget sermons sermen titles we just ask whoever is your favorite feature tell me 5 sermons that he or she preached maybe it's a 1, 2, 3 and that's about it but we remember the individual for the person who they are for the values that they stand for you know and the kind of character which they have demonstrated so life is the greatest message which we will ever preach and so we must invest and develop our character there is a quote given here by Dr Edwin Louie Cole on page 52 it says the man is more than the message your message is credible because you are credible when a man is no longer credible his message is suspect and that is so true isn't it like we can receive from somebody whom we trust but we are not able to receive when we cannot trust so developing that character building that character and you know in leadership we can talk about many things like leadership principles how to lead and all but if the leader does not based on his life if he has not gained the trust of the people then how can he lead how can she lead so trust is everything and trust comes on the basis of the life that the person lives rather than the things that they do so we will talk more about this we have run out of time actually but still I think I will because this is your last class if there are any comments any thoughts I think we could discuss all that and then we will end the call so yeah we are talking about moral character okay yes yes Samuel please go ahead okay Samuel I can't hear you yet what happened hello can you hear me yes yes yes now I can hear you so I completely agree with character and the importance of character and character building course so I am not debating that but I am weighing it I am not sure if it is more or less important I can for now I can say it is as important as anointing and gifting and calling I am not sure because one is I am thinking you know our characters have flaws yes they need work but they have flaws as well and you know change like I think some character flaws take time to change and the other part is through disciplining and practice your character can be molded and that brings in the element like I am thinking of all the people who didn't have the required character like Gideon he was afraid he didn't have that boldness but God still used him so he is like the counter of probably Saul or Judas maybe you know so there are people whose characters are not up to the mark but God has still been able to use them and probably you know with God's anointing gain that strength in character over a period of time so I am not sure if it is more or less I am thinking it is equally and then the other thing that I am thinking of is there are strong or I mean I don't know character why is like really good people but you know Atheist or Agnostics who believe in charity and helping others and they live they live with very strict principles like I am not lying and I will always be kind and I will always give to the poor but they don't acknowledge so I am trying to look at character in the light of all of these but at the same time not denying the importance of character sure thank you for that so Sam what we are saying is we are not saying that giving anointing is not important but it is more like the emphasis should be on character more than on other aspects so that is one thing. Second is God does use us despite our weaknesses but he doesn't want us to stay in those weaknesses now when we look at the life of Jacob he was a deceiver but later God kind of prophesied over him like Israel your prince and God wanted him to come out of that and become a new person so while God uses us with our flaws God's intention God's goal we will see that in the next section it's maturity you know Christ like this we have to move towards that and as we move towards it our character will be but now if we are not perfect which is the fact right like all of us we are not perfect can God still work through us yes but what does he need he needs a heart from us which says God you know I'm trying to come up higher every day every moment I'm trying to meet it better ok and I'm not going to stay in my weakness even though you're using me with my weaknesses so it's about that forward looking attitude is what I would say and the third one which you know he said people of the world they don't belong to the kingdom but you know they have seemingly have better character now you know we know that our salvation is by faith by grace through faith so righteous acts are like filthy rags before God so that really doesn't equate with what we are discussing over here yeah so I hope that makes sense yes yes I'm nodding I know you can't see ok sure sure alright yes thank you so yeah thank you everyone really interesting and important topics for us to discuss and I really I mean I was looking forward to this class I'm also looking forward to next class so yeah for now we will wrap it up over here and just want someone to pray please and then we will come to call anyone ok I'll pray yes yes yes but we thank you a lot for equipping you equipping us a lot so we are prepared a lot for your ministry for we are prepared to present you a lot on this earth so that people can see you through us a lot and through us a lot your word in your kingdom will advance and pray so that is we will learn more of your kingdom prepare our heart and let your spirit let your spirit prune and purify our heart so that our characters are purified and also our spiritual maturity come to the level that you require for us we ask for a petition a lot we call separate ways for today do with us a lot until we meet again in Jesus name I pray amen thank you thank you God bless you all have a wonderful day we will meet again in the next session take care bye thank you ma'am thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you