 We're back with the breakfast and plus TV apricot very interesting conversations ahead and We've been looking at that expecting of course the relevant political parties to file their Petitions and of course candidate of the People's Democratic Party Presidential candidate that is and they just concluded 2023 presidential election Alhaji at Ticco Abu Bakar has Finally filed this petition to challenge the declaration of Bola Ahmed Tinnable off a all progressives Congress as the winner of the presidential election that was held on the 25th of February 2023 at Ticco in the petition marked CAPE PC 05 2023 which he lodged before the presidential elections petition court sitting at the Abuja Division of the Court of Appeal applied for the withdrawal of the certificate of return that was issued to Tinnable by The independent National Electro Commission He maintained that the declaration of Tinnable as a winner of the presidential election was invalid by reason of non-compliance With the provisions of the Electrolacta Ticco Through his team of lawyers led by Joe Kerry Gazama SEN Further argued that Tinnable's election was Invalid by reason of corrupt practices. He prayed the court to declare him winner of the Presidential election having secured the second highest number of lawful votes cast at that election Recall that Labor Party and its presidential candidate Mr. Peter will be had Monday night also filed a petition Before the court to vote the declaration of Tinnable as the president elect Joining us to provide some context in the background to this is Public Affairs Analyst and Politician Upunabo in Kotaura. Upunabo in Kotaura. Thank you very much for your time Good morning Yes, she's here, she's here as well What informs Good morning in Kotaura. It's good to have you join us Well, what if thank you for what informs the focus of the article petition not on the number of votes cast from what we've seen but on the fit fitness and properness of Polar Tinnable to be president of Nigeria is coded the Electrical act and also talked about corrupt practices a bit of a boring from what the Labor Party and its candidate Had as grounds for its petition and prayer In that petition what informs that focus on the the person of Tinnable and his antecedent not the results itself what honest I'm not really comfortable with On the phone Entirely on issues like this But if you give me just two minutes Now that isn't ready Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. I think we will just take a break and But it's an interesting situation because I remember messy at some point the Labor Party and its presidential candidate Appeared on a television program and said the challenging Not the results of the election, but the The conductor the conductor the process Yes, and then later to come out on Twitter to clarify that is challenging both the process and the declare the Declaration, you know, but it wasn't too clear but with this Labor Party petition we've seen that Quite clearly they're challenging the results and that they seen they also won the most votes and had the most votes in the election they actually challenging the results and also going ahead to To say that the president elect and it's not qualified even to contest by The conditions stated in the Nigerian Constitution They've also talked about the fact that he didn't win the FCT 25% of and may you know looking at Section 134 the Nigerian Constitution Federal Republic of Nigeria has amended and looking at a corruption case or Alleged a narcotics case. He had in United States of America And if you look at that, of course, we can look at section 137 of the constitutional Federal Republic of Nigeria has amended We're not here to look at whether I think it's president or B is president or tenable lost or didn't even know but he had to find look at the background of this and What the prayers are? Okay, looking at the grounds and then basically looking at the possibility of how the case can play out but not not looking at who is Guilty and just looking at basically the characters there the characters involved because we're aware that in 2019 Tico Abubakar also approached the court Challenging the victory of Puhari and lost, you know, so I don't know if it's gonna be a third time lucky for him Well, I mean it's quite dicey. First of all, there's a very sensitive issue In most I mean you also want to agree that this subject is especially when it's been, you know in front of a Court or tribunal however wanted look at it But you know some of the issues are of real concern now one of them that's been talked about Because even prior to when the results were being put out You talk about the issue of whoever becomes whoever is being declared president has to win you know to thought of course 24 states including the FCT and so the contention the bone of contention You know, we remember very well that these also the issue of 25 24 states winning 25% including the FCT has been a bone of contention over time that particular Conversation a lot of people have talked about it whether or not the FCT before this election What are the FCT is a state or should be treated as a state? And so there's a lot of twist and it interpretation But if you look at the Constitution, this is not me trying to interpret it But it's just making reference to it. What has been what is and we don't know how the interpretation actually works But the part of that Constitution shadow one of it the further Republic of Nigeria as amended at least out What the states in Nigeria are their local government and the schedule also provides for 36 states Right and the FCT is not mentioned as a state by the literal interpretation which is the best way of interpreting it because That part of the Constitution just talks about, you know, the states 36 and then it went on You know to talk about the FCT so the status of the FCT is provided for in the shadow of it But one that particular part to where you talk about the federal capital territory was a Booja So when you look at that just the part that you have mentioned It should be treated like Yeah, but you know, we actually said, you know, we don't want to go into saying whether they wish with the party petitioning parties right Wrong. Yes, we don't you know to go into that So but just like just like I have stated that, you know, this is very very dicey and sensitive You know conversations to have probably looking at the background, you know to all of this But we'll just quickly take a break and when we return we will be joining open about in Kota area right here Please don't All right, we're back time to continue our conversation Of course that open up on Kota so starting by so we have to take a little break so that we could have a proper view Of missing Kota and Kota. I thank you very much for your time. And I was asking for Yes, of course, like, you know, they are certainly girl boundaries Which we will not cross, you know today. You're very well aware of that But and what do you think informs the fact that the article legal team is focusing basically on the Electroact and some certain provisions of the act that it feels Means that the person of a silver tunable presidential can president elect on the candidate of the APC It was not qualified to be in that election. Those are the major things that the article legal team is focusing on More than just the result, you know, what are your thoughts on that? When you go to court, you think of the most potent True to use and I believe that the Analyzed You just have to be qualified to contest So if you're not qualified to contest even if your big key is value You and you are not a candidate within the competence of the law. You are not a candidate so in at all but I'm a team who Violated any of the electoral any part of the electoral at all even the constitution then Definitely the terms of qualification now. We're not talking of the votes Then I've been usually not not to even be in the race and if actually Then the second person the person who comes second Automatically become the winner because it simply means that he was not a participant in the last presidential election. So if they have facts We will start that assertion that he was never qualified based on certain variables to be in that election, of course, they're going to exploit that Of course, they're also not going to exclude the issue of the violence the rigging that characterize the polls but maybe the lawyers have seen That the man ought not to be in that on that ballot and so that is what they are pursuing the gurus Well, you see you cannot I will say Diverse just one aspect and concentrate on that because even if you go maybe the last two are not very sure I'm not speaking for that. Well, they are also not sure because in recent times The judiciary has performed especially the Supreme Court has performed at this money to the point that Nigerians have lost faith in our judiciary and I keep saying this No matter how they deny you have the issue of law and we have the issue of Fabio, we have a lot of issues. Even the state governor, the governor Judiciary And I said it is so ridiculous that you say you vote for the party and not the individuals. Now what has happened? When people move from party day to party day, you find out that they move with their lawyer. So you cannot come and tell me voted for the party and not the people. But why? Because they were compromised. That's what it is about. They were compromised. And looking for how to bring the vote to the government as a government. So that loss of confidence in the judiciary is probably why they are exploiting the issue of the ability to contest. The particular one that I was talking about, you know, qualification. That's why they are looking for the failure. They will not, in any way, abandon the issue of rigging, to agree that characterise the election. Of course, that was not democracy on that day. We didn't have democracy. Nobody can come and tell me that. That was a coup covered up with niceties and complexities. It wasn't democracy. It wasn't votes. That election was, it was done more than usual. So we shouldn't even talk about democracy. We shouldn't even talk about what a coup is doing in the United States. A thousand democracies. There will be anybody who has tried that in the United States. Look at the beavers. About 17 or 24 beavers were stolen. Returned about 72 or 74 hours later. So if the results, if the beavers were stolen and the electoral act made it mandatory for you to cross-check whatever result you have with the beavers and upload. How did they do the cross-checking? So if those beavers were stolen, why not would have suspended the election, Adam? But it went ahead. Because when you're next and good, you become like sweet in the mouth of people. But when you're bitter, you know, they spit you out. Mammoudi Akubu was compromised. Nobody talk about machine. Nobody talk about that stupidest use of machine. Nobody wrong with the beavers. You're able to upload national assembly election results. On the same day, the national assembly was, as election was conducted on the same day. Simultaneous, not the same. Simultaneous, because of election. All of a sudden, the beavers stopped working. Even the server, everybody went back. Do you remember those beavers that you mentioned in 2019? When they went to court. Was it 2019 or 2019? They're 2019. I took one back election. They went to court. I said this before. When the Supreme Court said, Aver and Aver and Aver. Most of you are very young there. The problem here was S. That was added to his name. Aver and Aver. Even though your station most of you go to Upunabu. Which is Aro after the Upunabu. And I said no, you need the Aro. So now you see Upunabu. To Aro on my name. I said no, this is not the same. Because of that, the former Senate president, Aver and Aver, was removed. The certificate was withdrawn. Now, when it was time for Buwari. After locating billions to get the server. And so on. They went to court. Because they actually went to court. But Muhammad Buwari. And Muhammad Buwari. Muhammad Buwari are no different. I'm telling you why people have lost faith in God. They have Muhammad Buwari. Muhammad Buwari, they are one and the same. How can you tell me they are one and the same? They said no. In Kotari. Let's look at the fact that you have Attiku approaching the tribunal. Asking that you should be declared the winner. Or the rerun. The same thing with the Labor presidential candidate. Who's also asking. Which is the right? Well, it's the right. But I want you to look at this now. If you remember the story in the Bible. Where these women were involved with a child. And one said kill the child. The other one said don't kill the child. If you look at this now. If it really happened the wrong. Well, so I'm saying. No, we don't have to say that. Because it actually did happen. So in this case now. Who do you think is telling the truth? Why are we in this space? And what exactly is going to become of the tribunal? You know, in the next. That is the work of the judiciary. That these are facts before. You should be able to discern. Who actually won. That is why you're afraid. Descendment is such a strong word now. Are they going to be very spiritual? You know. That's a very strong word. If you don't look at the facts. It's like your kids running out to you. I know. I know. Your kids running out to you. Your kids running out to you. And telling you different things. You are not there. When they thought you are not there. When they started the forum. You don't even know. But based on what they say to you. You pass a judgment. Based on what they say to you. So in this one. And you are not even school in liberal profession. They're not to talk of the lawyer. Who is trained. To the point of Supreme Court justice. Although most of them also being justices. Of the court. But they've risen to that point. So it is presumed. That they have been well thought. And you know you've gone. Causes you've gone. They just presumed that they must have been well thought. Just like the police. Carrying out an investigation. The DSS carrying out an investigation. You've been taught. You've gone on that. So that meant. You should be able to decide. That is why. What they're always actually going to. A putter. One of the finest minds. In the liberal profession. That's why when they said a putter said. The Supreme Court. Is infallible. Not because. It is always right. It is always right. It is. It is. It was actually justice. Rubbers who said. Very interesting. Not. Yep. You cannot. Say. Thank you. But then. It should not be intentional. You can talk to them about thank you. Thank you. We will have another. or next week to trash this, who have all the statistics or the data, you know, and look at it one by one. Okay, one by one with you. I promise you that. Ms. Senkotaira, Oponabonkotaira, thank you very much for your time. Is political analyst? I'm really sorry, Pope. Not at all, not at all, you made it work for us. We appreciate despite the issues of the day you still came up on video link. Thank you. You're looking at the beautiful and handsome faces. I'm telling you. I'm just here looking at the beautiful and handsome faces too. Thank you very much, Oponabonkotaira. No, don't look at my face. Look at my own. Well, we'll talk about that off camera, in camera. Thank you very much, Oponabonkotaira. I don't know. I hope that your house, you've done me giving a 48 arc, you know, quit noticed by the landlord of River State. Yes, so PK, just like his, don't do anything. Because he has two more months, he puts his. And that's why you don't want to give everybody. No, he has four more years. He has four more years. He has four more years. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. He's been said to. He's been said to. Oh, wow. No, we're after one year, we shall see. We shall see after one year. So discuss this again. All right, we have to go. Thank you very much for your time. We'll be back after the short break to talk about the new monetary policy rates at the interest rates. Stay with us.