 stream up in here. Roger, you want control, I bet. There you go. Yeah. I'm gonna hide for a minute. I'm gonna come back in three minutes. Okay. I won't come back in three minutes. I'll just leave it on. Okay. So today's pre show, we were talking about Wonder Woman. Yeah, TV shows. And had some emails about cereal. Yeah, I do have high hopes for Wonder Woman. I hope that Wonder Woman, I'm gonna see it tonight. And I hope that it is a fairly straight ahead, well acted romp. I feel like that would be a, I don't want Wonder Woman to be a tour de force. I want Wonder Woman to be a solid base hit that gives me faith again in the DC movie universe. I love Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman. It was the only part of Batman versus Superman that I definitely enjoyed. Not everybody agrees with me, but how dare you degrade the greatest scene in history? But there's no buts actually. Actually, there is a but. The trailer didn't inspire me. I saw the trailer and I felt nothing because I'm dead inside. But also just like I'm like, okay, that doesn't look bad. But it also didn't get me excited. So when we talked about that pre shows before, but yeah, but I'm going to see it 11 o'clock tonight. So yeah, I think, you know, the biggest thing with Wonder Woman is the Wonder Woman movie I want to see is Wonder Woman and the rest of her people like defending their homeland from fantastical creatures from the deep. Like I want I want 300 with a bunch of badass Amazons like yeah, but I can understand that they're putting that's not what they want to do. They want to build Justice League, which means that they need to build her relationship to the world. Yeah, right. And that's what they're doing. I would also like to note that Chris Pine has an extraordinarily large head for his body. And I like the fact that they have to shoot around the fact that it looks like a gigantic steak is on a toothpick. I never noticed that about Chris Pine. Watch the commercial that he's in now for like cologne or something. But there's like, it's like him being like this handsome, amazing playboy, which he is he's extraordinary. He's stunningly good looking right. But then there's a shot of him walking out of his closet, which is just kind of torso up. And he's just in an undershirt. Wow. And it looks like they were super imposing an Easter Island head. I'll keep an eye out that for that tonight too. All right, let's do this. Shall we? Let's do it. Here we go. Daily Tech news show is powered by you. We don't take ads. Thanks to everybody who supports us at patreon.com This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday, June 1st, 2017. I'm Tom Merritt, Justin, Robert Young. How does it feel to be in June of 2017? And so much to do in June, got a bunch of good shows to go do it. We will end this month hanging out together at Nerdtacular and I will launch my second card game Kickstarter. So action news, of course. And I'm excited to begin it on the right foot here with you on the Daily Tech news show. Oh, believe me, I wouldn't have it any other way. We're going to talk about Plex. If you've been like, you know, I keep hearing about Plex, somebody explain it to me will do that. But they also have a brand new feature that makes it even more useful for more people. So I'm actually curious how many of you after we talk about Plex today, how are going to install it? Who are going to say, Oh, now, now it's worth the trouble. Now I understand it. And how many, like me, after understanding it, still think it's four expensive steps too many. All right, let's talk about a few other tech things you should know about. Ethiopia has shut down the internet, not all not ours, just theirs, just in Ethiopia. Allegedly to discourage cheating on exams, which started Tuesday, I African dot com points out that the Ethiopian government, however, has neither confirmed nor denied that that is in fact the reason. So this is an amazing story. If it is indeed because they want to protect the sanctity of these exams, at which point I would like to now read the answers to all of the questions. Number one, a Hey, wait, no, no, you're gonna get them shut down over here too. Stop it. Apple announced Thursday that developer earnings for the app store has passed 70 billion with a B since its launch in 2008. Apple also announced downloads have risen 70% in the past years with categories like photo and video growing 90%. Do you know what this makes me hope? What? This makes me hope we're gonna get a shorter keynote because they're already announcing the numbers now. And then I have to take all that time at the beginning of the keynote on Monday, foolish, foolish mortal space so they can invent new ways to let you know that I works is coming. Google announced Gmail for businesses now has early fishing detection using machine learning, something regular Gmail users already had, click time warnings for malicious links, also something we already had in regular Gmail, and a new one that's only come into enterprise, external reply warnings. That warns you when you're replying to someone outside your company's domain, who's not in your contacts and not somebody that you regularly correspond with. You know, aside from the fact that a lot of these things were in the retail free version of Gmail before. Good to have. I think that it's a Google taking enterprise just a wee bit more serious is good stuff. Yeah. All right, here's some more top stories customers served by one logins US data center have been notified of a data breach. The attackers accessed encrypted data have the ability to decrypt that data according to one log in. This is the vague and very disturbing part of this. We don't know why one log in saying this. They're being really coy about how they're telling people they put some of the explanation behind a log in for one log in. This implies that the strongest encryption system was not being used to protect customer data that maybe was weak hashes. Users have had their passwords reset. Orsis admins have been asked to reset the passwords for users in their domain. Users are advised to generate new security credentials and certificates for all their apps and sites and recycle secrets stored in secure notes. There's a bunch of other instructions here. This is an enterprise level type of thing. This is not like you using last pass at home. This is used in company situations. And it is a headache if not a nightmare. One log in has around 700 business customers. If I were a competitor to one log in today is the day that I would be launching my sale for enterprise customers to come on board because this is a very interesting story. Your friend of mine, Father Robert Ballester, who does a lot of stuff over there at the twit network, but specifically does an enterprise level show, which has a fraction of the downloads that some of their other shows on twit does. Yet it does a bounty of advertising. Once kind of spelled things out to me that when it comes to enterprise, you only need to convince one person there is one sis admin that is going to make the call to go with these kinds of services. This can be devastating to a company like one log in where their reputation for security is their business. That's what they're selling. These tools are not unique. Their reputation for doing it is. And if this is as bad as being rumored, who dark days ahead, I would assume. And I'll be honest, that's probably why they're being vague. I mean, part of the reason they're being vague and some of what they're saying is we don't want too many details out there so that people figure out how it was done. But another reason they may be being vague is they're trying to figure out how to best explain why decryption could happen without blowing off all their customers. And it is one of those things from the outside that looks like if you have to pause, it can't be good. Not to mention the fact that you are telling all of your customers again, which are sis admins for enterprise level companies that, you know, if you're going to go through all the hassle to fix this mess, why wouldn't you consider maybe going another direction if the hassle is already going to be there for you in terms of loading, you know, getting everything right? Yeah. And this is the second day to breach one login has suffered within the past year. Last August, it warned its customers of a clear text login bug on its secure notes service. So that that also is not going to retain customers. Microsoft launch a redesigned Skype with a feature called highlights that lets you share photo and videos with your contacts similar to Instagram stories, which of course invented the feature. He said sarcastically Skype highlights will last for seven days. The Android Apple get highlights first followed by iOS and then the desktop clients. Tom, we all know as people who use Skype regularly that this is the number one thing we've been asking for, right? I mean, sure. Yeah, I'll be honest. My first reaction when I saw this story was like, Oh, no, they've they're like ruining the ability to make calls does not appear to be that way. It appears to just be a feature that's bolted on. And if you want to ignore it, you can and probably will. But then you rightly pointed out when we were prepping for the show today on your Twitch channel that this is the problem, right? Skype isn't doing any of the things that we want it to do. And maybe we're just not in the target market anymore. And instead they do things like this, which just confuse the issue. And I it leaves me somewhat speechless. I get the reasoning on paper. I get why they're saying, Hey, a lot of people use Skype for I am, they communicate with friends and family on Skype. So why not add this seemingly very popular feature that Snapchat started and now Instagram and WhatsApp and Messenger all have it makes sense. And so I don't mean to damn Skype for adding something that doesn't hurt anything. But wow, it just I don't see it. And I don't see it catching on. I take Umbridge to that I do think it hurt something because it kills it. Obviously, these are big companies. Skype is now owned by Microsoft. They have a lot of resources to do a lot of different things. And also I'm sure there's internal pressure for them to continue to expand their market share. Despite the fact that Skype is indeed almost universally recognized to be the easiest way that you can speak in voice or video with somebody else. Having said that, their core product has been damaged and is in dire need of reliability fixing for years. We are people, Tom and myself who have relied on Skype for one reason or another for our jobs for years and years and years. And yet there's a reason why in any opportunity, we look to find a better more stable solution. And ultimately, the only thing that has held Skype in the position that it has is market recognition. People understand what Skype is. My mom knows what Skype is. It's easier to do. It's become a verb for VOIP and video chat over the internet. Yeah. No, it's a lack of an alternative, a lack of a viable social network. I don't add everybody that I want. I don't add LeBron James on Skype. I don't want to see what they have done over the last seven days. Now, maybe they hope that Skype will become a social network, but I would a thousand times out of a thousand give a good fresh slate to a new product powered by Skype or created by the Skype team that did something like this over the fact that I don't know. This is a lot of pent up frustration. And this is not the same thing for everybody. And I'm sure that there's many people that are listening to this right now and saying your problems are not our problems, Justin. But man, you have no idea how frustrating Skype is just a bad relationship that one day my prince will come and I will be able to leave this broken home. Skype highlights Goofus or Galant. How about I highlight the fact that I hate Skype? Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Alex Webb report their sources say Apple has started manufacturing a Siri controlled smart speaker with virtual surround sound. That's the distinguishing feature here and may announce it at WWDC, which kicks off on Monday next week. It would not be expected to ship until later this year. And don't let that distract you. They don't say it won't ship until December. They just say later. So that could mean they announce it in June and the chips in July. We just don't know. They don't have any data in Ventech, which makes the AirPods, the earbuds, the wireless earbuds for Apple, is reportedly manufacturing this speaker as well. So the question then becomes virtual surround sound enough to distinguish it. What else does it need to do to not be too late to this game? Well, Apple's never, you know, much like the Queen Apple is never late, nor is it early. It arrives exactly when it means to the Queen. I thought it was Gandalf or Gandalf. Sure. Queen Gandalf could be non binary. Sure. Okay. So here we go. Either Gandalf or the Queen and Apple show up to a bar. Gandalf said I own an Amazon Echo. I love it. I use it in my daily life for lights. I use it for answering questions, setting timers. What Apple has to do, in my opinion, is if they want to steer it toward, this is music based, which is something that people have dinged the Echo for is that the speaker is not fantastic for playing music. You usually, if you want high quality speakers, you should plug them in. Then that is one way to go, but it seems interesting that this kind of information is leaking out before WWDC and that the rumor is they will announce it at WWDC because you would think, as we mentioned up top, that Apple's real advantage in this category are apps and opening up Siri for the, in its greatest possible way to say now, Siri on HomeKit is more powerful than it's ever been before. Right. Because they did open up Siri last time. Yeah. So, Bray, you know, forcing those gates a little wider is what you're saying. Well, and to really fundamentally change how we think about Siri. Right now, we talk to Siri on devices. In this capacity, you would be, Siri would envelop your house and it would be like the A word that we normally say. Well, yeah, I mean, let's get down to it. This is the question, right? Can Apple pull off an iPhone or even an iPad in this space? They're not as far behind as they were with smartphones, to be honest. They're also an entirely different Apple than they were during the smartphone time. And yet, Amazon has a pretty good lock on this market. Now, first mover advantage doesn't stay first mover advantage in most cases. So what, what do they got to do? What are they? Is it the speaker virtual surround sound? Apple's good at making high quality stuff like that partnering with, with somebody who makes a really good speaker? I could totally see that. But it's a, it's a system where you have to use Apple products to take the best advantage of it. So I think you're getting at it, which is, will they open it up enough that it will work with everything you need it to work? I mean, that's, that's, that's Ruben's essential home is like, hey, we'll wide open and this will work with anything that wants to work with it. And is Siri up to the challenge? Because right now, I have a microphone in front of my mouth and I try to use Siri and it is not as good as the Amazon Echo, which I am doing through oftentimes closed doors. And yet it is recognizing what I'm saying. It's, it's not believing that I'm talking when I am not talking or not talking to it. It is, in my opinion, the best in class experience for this product. Can Siri get there? That is going to be the big, big, big question. One big advantage Apple, I expect Apple to push is the privacy aspect. Ruben's pushing that with essential home as well to say, hey, guess what? We don't do. We don't sell you things. We don't sell ads. Amazon sells you things. Google sells ads. We aren't going to do either one of those things. And I'm sure you can already write the barbs of Google trying, but not trying to work in the beauty and the beast tie in into the, the start briefing and the fact that, that Amazon is less in that game, but certainly would not be far from it. Should they want to move into the inserted into your daily life spoken word ad? Well, I can't wait for our three hour keynote on Monday. Yeah. Well, you should set a timer on your, on your echo to see how long it goes. On Tuesday, two security researchers set up a crowdfunding campaign to buy access to exploits being sold by the shadow brokers. So the vulnerabilities could be used, or could be fixed instead. After opposition from many in the security communities, the crowdfunding project has been canceled. Tom, do you believe that they should pay this money to the shadow brokers? Well, Natalie, you put it that way. No, definitely. Anybody who has to have echo on their name does not get my support. It was about 50-50. I mean, there wasn't, there's not like legitimate numbers, but roughly 50-50 with some security researchers saying, yeah, you know what? They're going to get the money anyway. Why not get the exploits and fix them fast? And then other security researchers saying, no, that you, it doesn't matter. We can fix them anyway. Once secure shadow brokers have often released the exploits in the wild to, to security reasons, where security researchers can get them, without us having to pay any money. So let's not encourage them by giving them money faster and from legitimate sources. The real question here is, does this kill the market, or does it feed the market? By giving them money, do you say congratulations? We have now, not only opened up the buyers to be people that don't want their personal exploits gone, or ransom, where we're going to break things and then make you pay us to fix them. But now we have a new player entering the game and that are, that is security, a consortium of security researchers that want to kill it. Now the all, the opposite argument is, if they start selling it to us, we can more, we could quickly dry up their ability to do stuff because, by and large, security will be better and they are betting on the idea that a lot of these exploits come in big breaks and not steady drip, drip trips. So yeah, I mean, I'm kind of on the side of don't try to buy them. Shadow brokers, and I don't know them, I'm not going to pretend like I know anything about them, but organizations like that generally don't care. Like, you know what, whoever gives us money, we will take your money. We don't even promise to give you the exploits, right? Like, that's just the way it works. So you're not going to affect them. I think the risk in giving the money is that you encourage imitators, that you try, you increase the pool of people like, hey, well, maybe I can get $20,000 out of some people if I figure out how to do something. And there's just the principle of like, you know what, these exploits should be made public by the NSA, by the source of the exploit. When an exploit is discovered, it should be, it should be responsibly disclosed to the company that the exploit has. We shouldn't be setting a precedent of having to do this in order to fix them. You know, I don't know enough about it to say that things could go one way or another. But to me, it is a fascinating question on whether or not ultimately this discourages or encourages copycat behavior. All right, real quickly, Motorola announced the 5.5-inch Moto Z2 Play. The Play will sell for $499 this summer, has more RAM, a slightly smaller battery, their estimated capacity dropping from 50 hours to 30 hours. There's also four new mods. The Motorola member has these mods that you can you can pop on and off for all the Z-phones, not just the new Z2 Play. They include a JBL SoundBoost 2 and a Moto Turbo Power Pack, so you can increase that battery life. Those each cost 80 bucks. Moto Style Shells and a Moto GamePad with the little thumb thumbstick and all of that for 40 bucks each and all of this. Z2 Play, the mods, all of it coming this summer. Well, what do we have here? Are the Moto, the mods, are they popular? No. I feel safe in saying they are not because this is like the 25th best selling. Motorola has the 25th best selling smartphone in the world. That seems like a gamble that hasn't quite paid off. Yeah, yeah. In fact, that was one of the criticisms of the essential phone earlier this week is that it's got that those little two-prong mod thing and people are like, that doesn't seem to be working so well for Motorola. But in Motorola's defense, they are sticking with it. And one of the things that will make sure that a mod market collapses is not delivering mods. So you want maybe these are the mods that finally get people to go, oh, that's kind of cool. I'm going to do that. Otherwise, this deal's getting worse all the time. Ah, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, subscribe to Daily Tech Headlines at DailyTechHeadlines.com. Also available as an Amazon Echo flash briefing. And I know a bunch of you guys have been trying out the Anchor app, even sending me calls on the Anchor app to let me know what you're thinking. That's awesome. You can get Daily Tech Headlines there as well, anchor.fm. That is a look at our top stories. Now let's talk about Plex. Are you perplexed, Justin? I am a little perplexed. I see this has exploded in my circle of friends. Obviously, I know quite a few cord cutters. I thought I was a cord cutter because I have gotten rid of my cable. And now, apparently, the super cool thing that all the cord cutters are doing are keeping cable, but now using this Plex system, which has apparently been supercharged. Yeah, if you want a deal to keep restrictions out of your life, you should check out Plex. Plex has added the ability to stream live TV and expanded the number of tuners it works with. It worked with the HD Home Run for DVR. It's had DVR since last year, but it now can work with Hopage, AverMedia, a couple others. Live TV is provided by the user. So this isn't a copyright violation situation. You are plugging in either you're over the air antenna and the tuner, or maybe you're using HD Home Run with a cable card and delivering the television into Plex. All Plex does is say, okay, we see what this television stuff is, and we can do DVR function. You can connect it to a hard drive. You can run it on a server. You can even use it with Dropbox, Google Drive, or OneDrive. And you don't even have to run a server yourself. And then you can now access not only all of those DVR recordings, but you can access live TV on your Plex app wherever you are. So there's no geo restriction. There's no, oh, this show isn't available on a mobile device. Oh, you're out of your home market. You can't watch this. You are connecting to your Plex server that you're in control of so you get to watch whatever you want. You do have to pay Plex though. The live TV service is one of the services that's available under the Plex pass. That's $5 a month. You can pay for it for a year for $40 or a lifetime subscription will cost you $120. You are able to get it on Android TV. This is the live, the new live TV function available on Android TV and iOS at the moment. It's coming to Android mobile and Apple TV. I thought that was interesting how they rolled it out like one mobile platform for Apple and a desktop platform for Android and then the reverse coming later. All right. So I got rid of my Comcast last year. My Comcast cable TV. If I wanted to get on this, let's walk me through this. I got to call Comcast and say, guess what? I want cable back. Right. Well, you don't have to, right? You can just do over the air. Depends on what you want to do. Yeah. So I can just have the tuner, which is how this is not a piece of hardware. This is software, right? Plex is software. The tuner is hardware. Well, I would need to get another tuner that would be able to point to Plex. Yeah. You've got options. One option is to buy an HD home run with cable card. That's where, if you're like, I want to get all the channels. Cable isn't actually that much more expensive than PlayStation View, in my opinion, or in my location. So I am just going to get cable back, plug it into the HD home run with cable card. And then I'm going to forget about renting a box or any of that stuff, right? That's one option. Second option is I'm going to get over the air and I'm going to either get an HD home run with a tuner built in and do the same thing just with over the air. Or I'm going to get one of these Hopage tuners, let's say, and I'm going to plug that into a computer or a laptop that I owned. And I'm going to be able to run that over-the-air signal into that laptop and then be able to just watch what I want that way. You could also do a few other things here and there that are a little geekier, but that's kind of your main options. And then once that's running, the one thing you'll have to do is leave either the HD home run or the computer with the tuner plugged into it on so that it's always streaming the what the signal and it's recording the things that you want to record. But after you've done that, after you've set that up, so after and by the way, just so we are we are here, just so we understand, we have either over the air, which is for free, but you have to have some kind of digital antenna, right? Right. Fairly cheap. You have either the $53.72 hoppage digital TV tuner or the $96.20 home run HD tuner. You leave that on or plug it into another laptop that you've got sitting around. You point that to Plex and now, as if by magic, what happens? Yeah. So you don't you just install Plex on the HD home run or the laptop and then Plex takes care of the rest. Now, yes, you have to sign up for Plex Pass and you have to pay him $5 a month. But after that, where you have your Plex app, let's say you're on an iPhone, you can then watch everything that you have stored with Plex and you can store the DVR recordings into Dropbox, let's say. You don't have to have a large hard drive locally. You can have the live TV streaming through there. You can store your DVRs. You can even, if you can legally rip your DVDs without breaking copyright protection, you can even store movies in there or if you have legal DRM free movies, you can store those in there and all of that will be available wherever you have an internet connection. So this is, and I've been very intentionally obtuse just to demonstrate the fact this is not quite the, we are here, remind me to get back to this point. This is Sling. This is what the dream of those Sling boxes owe so many years ago and all of a sudden for the first time ever, magically on your laptop, especially for people who traveled for business, you were able to get everything that was on your television because it functioned as your remote. Yeah, so let's make sure to say Sling box. Sling box. The Sling box. What put Sling on the map was that fantastic piece of technology. Now that, now they have moved into the world of over-the-air cable packages effectively. Yeah, here's my secondary point. Okay. We need to start coming up with different distinctions for cord cutting stories because this is not the cord cutting story that I think is worrying ESPN and all these major companies that are losing cable subscriptions, right? Not only the fact that, A, this is something that would require cable for a large robust channel lineup, but also this is hobbyist stuff still right now. Like, you'd be into this. If you want, if you want to install Plex on your NAS and do all of that, it's super hobbyist stuff and it's great. If you've got the time and inclination to do it, it works really well. But what they've done is they've made it, they've made the hobbyist tent wider. If it's like, all right, maybe you don't like cutting balsa wood, we've got some pre-cut balsa wood. Still let's put the plane together yourself, but, you know, we've made it a little easier. So you can use cloud storage. You don't have to install it on a NAS. You can now do live TV. You don't have to figure some work around to make that happen with an extension or something like that. You know, you can do HD home run. You can put a help each tuner, plug it into an Xbox. Now you've got a server on that Xbox One sitting there right in your living room. So they're making easier options, but it's still not the dead simple one because they're routing around the internet, right? The reason that they're able to say there's no restrictions is because you're doing it yourself. It is legal for you to do this yourself. As soon as they try to make it easier for you, suddenly they have to do it for you, at which point the broadcast networks come after them and say now you're retransmitting without permission and that's not okay. Which is great because also if you want to look at this in a surfing analogy, this might be the way to catch because the slings and the PS views and the YouTube TVs, they are all going to compete with each other. They're going to find about what the market will do and then because they're the future, they're going to slowly increase. Cable, on the other hand, facing a more competitive marketplace, will probably begin to start to become more and more attractive, especially specifically compared to where they were five and certainly ten years ago. So this idea, if you want to be very market efficient about it, is very attractive for the idea that you can spend a bunch of money up front and then no money ever again except for whatever you're paying for the cable, which and the flux pass. Well, yeah, but that's a hundred. It's a hundred. But you pay 120 lifetime. You're right. And then you don't have to worry about it. You can say, you can just call into your cable company every month and say, hey, I'm thinking about quitting like so many others. Yeah, right. Just get free showtime forever. I wrote a column on Patreon, patreon.com slash dtns today, about how this is an example of the internet routing around. As soon as there's enough pressure, the solutions get better to get around the restriction. And particularly, I was talking about net neutrality and like, there hasn't been any bad violations of net neutrality, which is why you don't see any solutions to get around ISPs stranglehold. But if that changes, expect mesh networks and things like that to suddenly get a lot of attention from people and start to improve really fast. Because that's what happening with Plex is you're seeing like there's just this amount of demand and this much pressure from the restrictions of TV Anywhere and Geoblocking to make Plex a viable solution to say, oh yeah, you know what? We're making this easier and easier all the time. But not too easy. Don't come sniffing around cable companies. None coming in on our servers. It's just a bunch of neckbeards connecting 50 wires. No, I mean, Cody, Cody is what Plex was built on. They're both built on XBMC in the early days. Cody is under the gun because they haven't navigated these waters as well. They've strayed too close to the piracy side of the equation. But Plex is scot-free. Plex has done the dance very expertly, I believe. Like Sling did. And really the only the biggest wrap on the knuckles that Sling ever got was their DVR hopper, right? Sling box. Sling box. Sling box. Sling box. No, but no, but even then. Yeah. But Sling, when they got into their Over the Air stuff, which is the product that I use now to get my live television, they made the legal deals. Yeah, they made the legal deal, exactly. They've stayed on the side of legality. The only time that they ever got into any problem with their Sling box hopper was with, but was it CBS that was not happy about the fact that people could be able to use your skip commercials and forced, what was that company that wouldn't give them? Oh, they made CNET after I stopped working there. Take away their Best of CES award. And then CEA took Best of CES away from CNET. So there's that. Thanks to everybody who participates that are subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. Couple of messages. I'll read the first one here if you want to read the second one, Justin. This first one comes from Becky who writes, I loved your show yesterday on secure communication tools. I work as a learning and development professional in the tech world and think resistance to encrypted communication tools can be attributed to two things, apathy and habit. Apathy is the biggest obstacle in getting people to care about privacy. They these are the I don't have anything to hide so why should I care people? And unfortunately, most people will only start to care when something has directly and adversely affected them. And by then it's too late. The second obstacle, habit is a pretty challenging one too. Changing human behavior is difficult and has to be done with some level of intention. I used to head up the training department and an encrypted comms company silent circle silent circle and I can't tell you how many times companies would purchase our app and it would sit untouched even after a breach. When you're used to going to iMessage and Outlook a thousand times a day for work asking someone to use a new app with an unfamiliar interface is uncomfortable and disruptive to the workflow. So from an enterprise perspective, apps need to be designed that integrate with already existing familiar business tools. It would really be ideal to just sneak end to end encryption in these tools so the end user doesn't even have to think about it because I can tell you the apathy problem is not going away. Thanks for the awesome show every day. I'm surrounded by developers and engineers and you guys helped me sound like I know what I'm talking about. Well, Becky, I'm very happy to hear that part for sure. And your conclusion is the same conclusion that came to in that study we talked about yesterday which is you just need to put encryption in the existing tools. All right. I'm going to pitch something to you, Tom and you tell me whether or not you're down with it. So I know that your brand on this and your previous shows has been sober, level-headed, forward-thinking, educated conversations specifically about complicated topics like hacks and breaches and... Not always sober. Sometimes we were drunk but I get where you're going. Yeah. As soon as Liquid Fridays went away, sober would be a word I would describe. But I think that now we are at a tipping point and you can help push society over the edge for the better. I feel like we're at a point now where a lot of these encryption and breach stories are starting to get mainstream attention. You need to help usher in the summer of sharks for encryption. Let's begin to totally overhype every encryption breach to the point where everybody starts worrying, you're panicking, your grandma about the fact that they're turning on... No, but see that they might be hacked. I am 50-50. I am the security community on the Shadow Burgers deal on this one. On the one hand, if we can do it in a way where people who know really understand that we're not serious, I'm way in on the summer of sharks, mostly because you named it summer of sharks. On the other hand, it is my crusade to get people to actually understand the risks rather than inflame them. So I don't want to still steer clear of that. Then all I'm saying is that whenever there's an exploit story from now until Labor Day, you have to call it yet another example of the summer of sharks. All right, I like it. All right. Hey, Tom writes, your friendly neighborhood, Philip. I just listened to you and Scott talking about bike sharing in China, this written from like a sauna outside Zhuhai, China. Mobike and other services let you park the bike wherever you finish your ride, provided it's in a publicly accessible area, not in your apartment. And this usually means that there's a handful of bikes conveniently right around my gated community or at a bus stop. The cost of the ride is super cheap, starting at one... You won. One, right? One won per ride or roughly 15 cents US dollars. I'm living in a small town of 1.5 million people and cheese. And people in traffic can be a problem. The buses don't seem to keep any sort of schedule. It's only a 10 to 15 minute walk from my apartment to the local shops and restaurants. But I can make the trip in four minutes if there's a mobike nearby. I did buy a bike when I came to China, but the gears never worked properly. And then a pedal fell off. While I could go get my bike fixed, it's a lot easier to leave it sitting in my living room while I grab a mobike while I'm out and about. While I wish that I could have a service like this when I go home to the States, I really don't think that I'd use it since I could just drive everywhere. Thank you, Phillip. I mean, that backs up kind of what my spidey sense was telling me about this. And I didn't realize how easy mobike was to use. I knew it was easier than some of these city bike sharing that we have in North America. But wow, that sounds idyllic. I feel like in a lot of US cities, though, those bikes would just get stolen. Maybe. I think that there's certain ways around that and making them look a certain way or giving them easy places to park them certainly adds a lot. You know, right now in Oakland, AAA is offering this gig car service, which is very local to my area, my neck of the woods in Oakland and Berkeley, which I kind of wonder what that economic model is. Because I think that mobike is very interesting because it is indeed so cheap that you are able to make it very easily work it into your budget and say, this is cheaper than getting something fixed. Well, thank you for writing in, everybody. Thank you for listening. And thank you, Justin, Robert Young. What's going on these days? Well, you know, I'm just living out every day here in the summer of sharks because you can't help, but look over your shoulder. You can get sharked at any time. Well, no, it's awesome, awesome, awesome. I'm streaming on Twitch every single weekday. And you can follow me on Twitter, JustinRYoung. I'm going to spare you the big plug for the Kickstarter because, man, are you guys going to hear nothing but that in about a week or two. So go ahead and, in the meantime, check me out. Our previous card game is decontender.us, if you want to see the work we've done before. And, oh yeah, new expansion for that is out now. 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I am a Plex machine. Plex for all your comms. You're getting more and more bored as you get down. Yes. Don't fear the Shadow Brokers. Is that like don't fear the Reapers from the Blue Aster Cote? I guess, yeah. Does it feature cowbell? That's what I need to know. Is it legal for you to do this yourself? It's legal to carry it. It's legal to carry it yourself. So, let's talk about Plex, baby, at the top. That's pretty good. Which one? Let's talk about Plex, baby. Wait, say it again. Let's talk about Plex, baby. There we go. Let's talk about you and me. Let's talk about all the cable and the over and air content you can dream. That's what I was looking for. That's better than yesterday's post-show where we talked about nuclear destruction. You talked about it. You were like, I didn't experience that. You talked about it with me. I was just saying that I just came to the conclusion you hung out with very fatalistic people. Mark wrote in and said, sitting here listening to the post-show, I wonder if your end of life pessimism might have something to do with where you were living. I grew up so close to an Air Force base near Marietta, Georgia that we lived by the saying that we did not have to worry because we were a first strike location and would be incinerated almost immediately. Yeah, we live near Scott Air Force Base, so. Well, yeah, but I lived there in Naval Base, in Army Depot, and I still go by the assertion if something was up, there would have been a lot of activity a lot of people would have noticed. Look, you're right, Roger, but I'm just saying this is how I fell. Maybe I should travel back in time and hand you a box that Captain... Oh wait, it wasn't Captain... Also, Mark said that Nostradamus Special in which Orson Welles narrated was indeed a powerful piece of work, so you never saw that. No, I didn't. I missed all these things because I only had... Justin, when you were growing up, what was the thing that unsettled you or those around you as to the world? Well, there was still people... You know, your parents as kids could still remember the Cuban Missile Crisis in South Florida, which was obviously something that was not a problem for me when I was growing up, but there still was a lingering kind of idea that South Florida specifically might be in the middle of this international crosshair. More so than other places in the country that kind of had moved on from the Cuban Missile Crisis because it was right there, yeah. Sure, exactly, that this would be... That also... That's really interesting. The worry was, of course, that if nuclear war broke out and Fidel had an operational missile that you don't need... Like with existing technology, even then, he could hit Miami. And that, you know, if everything's ending in nuclear winter anyway, he might as well get back the exile community for whom he found so meddlesome. But aside from that, I don't know if there was anything that I really thought when I was growing up was going to end the world, per se. You know, I guess the closest thing that I would think about that really crossed my mind was living in New York City from like 05 to 08 when you were still doing single-digit anniversaries for 9-11. Yeah. Well, we went to New York in October 2001. Geez. Yeah. That was weird. But that still didn't affect me the same way that the Cold War stuff did. Partly because I was older, too. But man, that is something I will never forget the smell of particularly. Like there was this chemical smell everywhere in Manhattan. You know, I think the biggest, and obviously, I mean, there's untold horrors of what that city was like post 9-11. Although, I mean, from everybody I knew that was there, it was a strangely uplifting time to be in the city because there was kind of a healing element in another one or three. We had already bought our plane tickets in August and scheduled to come out to visit our friends. And I remember we called them, I mean, not September 11th, but later that week, we called them and were like, should we still come? And they were like, yes, even more so now. Come. If you're still wanting to come, you should definitely come. And we had that experience of, I mean, I don't think New Yorkers are as mean as the reputation, but these were the friendliest New Yorkers I'd ever seen. Like people were just really happy to see, you know, like, hey, yeah, keep coming. Let's show you that New York's still alive, still kicking when I'm giving up. New York City is not a mean city. It's an impersonal city. And it's an African city, you know. Well, you know, it's funny because I made this reference when I was back last New Jersey, and I just, it's kind of similar to New York, but it was just a feeling that everyone had somewhere to be, and you were just in their immediate way. And so that's kind of how they treated, not because they were angry at you, just because they needed to get around you. And I think it's worse for tourists because tourists don't usually have anywhere to be. So they're ambling along, right? They're the Sunday drivers of the sidewalk. Oh, those are the, those are, you know what? I hate those anywhere. It's like, especially when they walk for a breast. Come on, really? You can take up the entire sidewalk, just one side, just like, you know. Oh God, mall walkers. I hate them. I just, I want to scream mall walkers when people are in front of me when I'm jogging around the lake. And they're just like wide, like a college offense, like walking up the entire path. And this is by the lake. So I can't, what am I going to do? Run around them around the lake? Or I'm running like up on a, it got, oh jeez. So you just got to like quietly breathe behind them while you're jogging until they move. But I mean, Shane, Shane says tourists are the plaque in the arteries of New York. Now I never quite had a problem with tourists when I lived there. But then again, I worked in lower Manhattan, which clears out of all humanity after five o'clock. And then I would go to Hoboken, which was certainly not the poorest destination that, you know, my view of tourists is mixed. Like I've had some, you know, working at a tourist spot in pure, was it pure 39? Was it pure 39, right? I sold dead butterflies and bugs in acrylic cases. So we had all manner of tourists, especially when the cruise ships docked. For the most part, they were okay, but you would occasionally get like a handful of tourists that were just complete jerks that totally ruined your day. Even though they were like maybe the only group out of the whole day that were jerky, they would just ruin it. And you would just go home like all really like, hate people, especially the ones that argue with you when they ask you a question. It's like, well, what is that behind the mountain? Well, that's the top of the Transamerica building, the pyramid, you see. It's like, no, no, but on top of the mountain, there's nothing on top of that mountain. It's a hill. And what you're seeing is the building behind it. And they just argued. It's like, why did you ask me? Why did you ask me? This is the thing. American tourists, Shane mentioned in the chat room, American tourists in Europe are really bloody annoying. What I've noticed is American tourists that kind of stick out as American tourists can be annoying, but I bumped into a bunch that you would never have suspected of being tourists, but they are because they just kind of blend. The ones that blend do the best. Alan Char wrote in a good substantive email. I don't think I can read it and do it justice. But he mentioned the Doomsday Clock, which reminded me because it was also an element of the Doctor Who episode last week. Yes. The Doomsday Clock is two and a half minutes to midnight. Yeah, they moved it back down. I mean, that's one of the closest to midnight it's been. And this goes back to the whole idea of... Wait a minute. All right. No, no, wait a minute. Also, who sets the Doomsday Clock? It's the Federation of... Concerned Scientists. Yeah. 1953, it was two minutes to midnight. That's the closest it's ever been to midnight. GPEG asks in the chat room, asks what's with the Doomsday Clock question? Is that like... I'm wondering if he's wondering what it is or what it's for or why are we talking about it? I don't know. Why'd you ask him in the chat room? So yeah. It's two most recent annual announcements on the clock. The Science and Security Board warned, the probability of global catastrophe is very high. The actions needed to reduce the risks of disaster must be taken very soon. We find the danger to be greater. The need for action more urgent. It is two and a half minutes to midnight. The clock is ticking. Global danger looms. Number one, amazing marketing tool. This is like easily one of the greatest marketing tools of all time. What are they marketing? It's... Of course it's marketing. If they were just... Wait, but who are the... What are they marketing? This... We're paying attention to their opinion. If they were just... If they were just... They were accusing them of being like some kind of sales tool. No, no, no, no, no, no. If they were just... We sell doomsday watches, Tom. You're just saying like awareness, like an awareness. If they were just the Federation of Concerned Scientists and they were issuing press releases saying, it's bad, then nobody would give a rat's ass. But the fact that we can quantify it in this idea of a ticking clock, right, is just amazing. It's a great idea. So, all right. For this, it's been since its inception in 1947, was in 1991. Right? That's when I felt the relief that I didn't know I needed relief from. And that took a huge jump from 90 to 91. I think a seven-second jump. And then it started going down, down, down, down, down. All three 2007 ticks briefly back up in 2010. And since then... They're atomic, the Federation of Atomic Scientists, not... Since then it has ticked down 2012, 2015, 2017. So, it's particularly the atomic scientists worrying about nuclear. They have attributed the half-second tickdown to the rise of nationalism and United States President Donald Trump's comments over nuclear weapons, the threat of a renewed arms race between the U.S. and Russia, and the express disbelief in the scientific consensus over climate change by the Trump administration. This is the first use of a fraction of time and the clock's closest approach to midnight since 1953. Well, on that happy note, folks, let me just say it's a pleasure to be with you while we can be for the next two and a half minutes. It does appear that this is the first time in seven years that the committee has referenced nuclear... Or nuclear. What? Or nuclear. No, wait. What did I say? Nuclear? Is it nuclear? Nuclear. Previously, there has been tickdowns of one-second and two-seconds because of lack of political action on climate change. Oh, so the doomsday clock covers... It can cover all sorts of global climates. Well, it's global catastrophe, right? Yeah. So, for a long time, the only thing capable of global catastrophe was considered to be nuclear war. So, previous... Yeah, previous adjustments had mostly focused on a nuclear holocaust. In fact, when it took back seven seconds, it was because the United States and Soviet Union signed the START I Treaty with the dissolution of the Soviet Union. But, yeah, like India and Pakistan both getting nuclear weapons, little progress on nuclear disarmament, North Korea's first nuclear test in 2006, and Iran's nuclear ambitions ticked it forward. The New START Treaty ticked it back a second in 2010. And then past then, for the first time in 2012, they used climate change as a reason why it was ticking forward. Which I don't know. Everybody could use a rebranding here and again, but you know, I don't feel like a ticking clock is the best way to signify climate change. I feel like you just need a new metaphor. Well, what they're doing is saying, look, this was meant to describe the proximity of global catastrophe. And when it was launched in the 40s, the only thing that could cause an actual global catastrophe was nuclear war. But if they identify new threats that aren't nuclear war, then they're going to just include them, because that's the mission statement. Yeah, I guess, and this is going to be a pedantic thing. Which I'm sure will infuriate people that take a lot of these things far more seriously than I do. But you know, two minutes to midnight is rad for nuclear war, because in a room you'll never see with people you'll never meet, they can read off codes and hit a button and we're all dead, right? So biosecurity, bioweapons are part of this now too. They aren't contributing in a large amount, but they have that same potential that you're talking about. Whereas, yeah, climate change is the problem with people discussing climate change is they can't see it in front of them and it doesn't happen fast. Sure, but then you might think that when the idea of dirty bombs or bioweapons from al-Qaeda and stuff like that were discussed in the early aughts, that that might have moved things forward. Now they have CRISPR, bioweapons, cyber threats, and AI. Summer of sharks! Summer of sharks, people! All right, folks, stay out of the water, unless you know what you're doing, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.