 Let's go. Boss. No talk, man. Boss. On boss talk one on one. One on one. Yo we gon' talk, we gon' have fun. We be on fire with you Lively. It's a unique hustle. Big shit. Big shit. Big shit. Big shit. It's a unique hustle nigga. Big shit. Big shit. Big shit. Big shit. Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. This is your unique hustle. This is your boy, he's CEO. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing, outstanding, official, Miss Jamaica. What's going on? Not, not even on my dad. Man, we got a guy here today, y'all. He really don't need no introduction. He's been on the show before, man. He helped us your student dough, man. He's going down the day, man. We got my boy Fat Pimp in the building. Hey, hey, hey. Shout the X on the intro. Man, everybody say that, man. They sell it, man. Say, man, a lot of niggas been trying to feed. Man, who was that? Who was the last person that really just not rang? I don't even count him because he always messing with me. Right. Who was it? It was somebody that was like, man, shows. It was shows. Show. Man, who was that, man? He was like, man, that thing going in. He actually went and looked to rub just because of it. Yeah. Because you know, it's still the show. It's like, if I'm in a shower and I hear the YouTube on, and I hear that, wow, it's tough. You all know. I peep my head. I can shout a shoe on there, man. So, yeah. Shout the X on. But the crazy thing is that everybody who come on here, we always give them the opportunity to make us an intro song. Say, hey, step up to the plate. Make an intro song. If it's good, we'll put it on. Everybody's like, yeah, yeah, I'm going to do that. Ain't nobody better than me. I was wanting two people done it, but it didn't come through. But it didn't come close to the inside. See, I want one. No, I mean, it's hard. I told you I need that. It's hard, bro. It's hard, right? Pretty sweet. We want one. We would love to eventually change it or have an upgrade. Because we have others in there, but we just love that one. We always play that one. My boy went hard on this one. That's PGF's shout, buddy. I like that. You're going to go down through that. I like that. I like that. Man, you know, but I mean, you know, he out Atlanta, man. And that's the rest of the show and best friend, man. So when he came down, man, it was just organic. He was like, man, I got, he made boss talking. He was on his way here, man. And he was promoted and everything. And it was like, it just fit. It just fit. So that's the dope part, man. So, man, you know, the way we do, man, we just trying to show love, man. That's what, how we been doing, man. Y'all should use that one like for special interviews. We do it sometime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just sometime. It was hard. You know, they be going, man. Because it's real, it's real gangster, man. You know what I'm saying? It just lives a different way, man. So how you been, man? I've been great. I ain't going to say good or okay. I've been great, man. I'm surviving. Coaching baseball. Coaching baseball? Yeah, yeah. Man, you know, when a person say coaching something, I think about that guy who got killed the other week on their own. Coach Mike, Coach Mike. You knew him? Yeah, I'm Dallas. I know everybody. So you knew Coach Mike. What type of guy was he? Solid, man. He raised some kids right, man. Really? How long had he been doing it? I couldn't even tell you, bro. I just had kids. So I don't know how long he been doing it, but me having the kids. You met him? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Do you know exactly what happened? No. The only thing I know is I found out like everybody else. I got a group text with everybody from Houston. Mm-hmm. And somebody was like, yo, have you been on the internet? And they said, check your phone. So I looked and I seen it. I don't like watching stuff like that. Yeah. So when I seen it, it just made my heart melt because I've been out there in situations. We was in Oklahoma and got into it with the other team and got into with the refs. It happens. You know what I mean? It happens. That's why you have to be level here. You got to understand it's just sports, man. It's just Peewee sports. But it shouldn't get to that extent where you feel like you're going to pull out a firearm. And if you are that hot headed, don't carry the firearm with you out there. Leave it in the car or leave it somewhere else. Plus, we from the old school, man. Even if y'all did get physical, y'all could have fought in the parking lot. Y'all could have fought in the parking lot. Y'all could have waited till y'all seen each other somewhere else. The fact that y'all damaged these kids for the rest of their lives. Some of them might not even want to be out there to be scared to go out there. I can't stand on that, man. No, and you know what the thing about it is, man. You know, I didn't know how intense it was. I kind of went with my boy, Coyne. He called you too. Coyne, he be over here a lot. And he grew up around me. And that's where he went to try to, you know, make things a little bit easier for him out here instead of getting in these streets. Because it ain't not being more street over there. Let me tell you something about football in Texas. Really Dallas. I'm going to say Houston too, but Dallas is competitive. And then you got to understand you dealing with hood mentality. People that's been in the streets, they hold on to our life. And now they are coaching boys that they want to see go to the pros. It's dangerous, man. And I heard some betting going on too. I don't know nothing about it. I'm just telling you. I heard it. Now I'm watching these new... Hey, listen. You know, I'm going to be out there so I'll be telling you. I don't know nothing. The hell are they doing out there? They better not be out there betting on them kids, man. I'm a coach, man. I don't know nothing. But you know what? It's every sport. Like, if you spend money in investing in your child, some of these parents take it serious because you said that show that came on the cheerleading show. Yeah. Where you see those moms will go in at it. They'll be fighting, arguing over. My daughter needs to this. My daughter... And I'm like, is it that serious? A lot of people live in... A lot of people live in their fantasies and dreams. Through their children. Through their children. And so they're trying to go above me on and a little too aggressive. If you really ask these kids, they don't even want to do that. Right. Most of your kids in football practice, they're talking about Fortnite. They are dancing. And... Girls. Yeah, girls. And we'll see. It depends. You never know. Damn. You never know, man. Well, I was out to help and coach. Right after the year of the pandemic, it was letting up when they let the kids play again. And I realized, coaching football ain't for me. I got partners that coach that said, they're football ain't for me, man. Why? Because it's true. Because I see how easy it is to lose your cool. Yeah. Because if you know something, if they being full-gay, if you with the refs and stuff, it ain't for me. At baseball, I play at baseball. And it's so peaceful. I get out there. Oh, man. You get out there. I'm the only one who's aggressive on a baseball. They don't want your parents to be out there. They just be quiet. They don't even say nothing to their kids. They just sit there and just go, hey, have a good game. Damn. They don't say nothing to their kids. So it's us. You damn right it's us. Niggas. Niggas. Niggas. It ain't the blacks that's niggas. I don't even like calling us niggas, but it's a difference on the football field. It's got black folks watching. They got niggas out there acting the fool, man. I got to ask you about different things, man. Zero, man. I just heard Slim Thug. He gave a little, you know, a little spiel on it. But I mean, you being one that you got a song, you guys just did together 50. We're label mates. Yeah, y'all label mates too. And y'all manager too. How does that, how did you, when you first seen it, because you just from the outside looking in like me, because that's, they on the, what's the idea on? They on the south side. Yeah. And they, you know, that's a different world. But when you see something like that happen, what goes through your mind when you see something? Because I hadn't, you really don't see that like that a lot, bro. I'm not even going to answer it politically correct. My manager didn't try to like, you know, control what I say. But I'm going to keep it real, which it hurt. It hurt watching it. Not because two men came fight because he didn't end it. You dig what I'm saying? That's the word. That's it. I've told people before Rose, Rose was one of the people I idolized, somebody that I got the game from. Me being from Texas, it hurt. I don't want to see that. What they got going on is they family business that's between them. But at the same time, I hate how people grab that clip. I hate how the fact that people pick up their phone every time there's something going on. I don't like that. So I'm trying to just stay out there business. Man, I don't really want to say too much because anything I say nowadays can get. It can get thrown. And let me tell you how before, I done put my foot in my mouth many times, you know, speaking on emotions and this thing got tweeted and screen shot and stuff like that. So now I don't really got too much to say on that. But the funny thing is like, for how I look on things, I love the fact that people are being more transparent. They talk about their feelings. They say what's on their mind. Yes, it can get you in trouble when people twist and turn it and not understand what you really mean. That's why a lot of times, honestly, when you say things, you have to almost darn explain yourself before you even finish saying what you're saying just so that it won't get misconstrued in a different way. Yes, because nowadays, majority of people are not going to understand what your point is. I don't care what you say. Right. I can tell you it's raining outside, like cats and dogs. It might be somebody saying, oh, you disrespecting the dogs. You disrespecting the cats. You didn't even know what I'm saying. You just don't know. So I'm with that situation. It's pretty tough, man. I do know that Trey, you know, with the way that things are looked at upon the way that he moved for the city, the way it's perceived, it's not a good look for any confrontation to come toward the stuff that he does because it's somewhat taunts it, or, you know, put somewhat of a strike against especially to our white constituencies. We already look a mess out here. And then, you know, even be caught up in any situation where it may even, even if you didn't have none, just to be around stuff, sometime association by, you know, assimilation, it just basically makes you look a certain way. So I know that he's not good with that because of all the work that he, you know, he seems to try to be involved in. When he came down to Harvey, I remember seeing him water down there and doing stuff through branding him and trying to get stuff done. And he was one of the main guys that was running around with that. Or if somebody, you know, he was pulling up on different situations. But that look that we've seen on the video does not really, you know, parallel the look of being one that gives a community provider and a community activist. You know what I mean? But at the same time, you gotta think about this. We're all human beings. We are human, right? And we all make mistakes. You know, things do happen. So we should always have a leeway of, you know, okay, well, that's a oops. Let's go ahead and brush it off. Move on, start doing back here, you know, the community. Yeah. The only thing is just when, when people are humiliated openly, it's a hard appeal to swallow. So I understand where you coming from when you say you hate to see the phones out because now it's everywhere. And now people are going to be sharing it. It could become a meme like that Michael Jordan meme or whatever, where you just always being played with because of that. You know what I mean? The one deep song and all kind, it's all kind of stuff that people do with that. So, you know, I don't know, you know, I've met Trey. You see him on the wall, but I never met zero. But I definitely know it's a Texas thing and basically being in Texas. Yeah. I'm gonna tell you like this, man. And I'm gonna say this on the camera. I'm staying out of it. But at the end of the day, there's this age time business and I'm gonna let, I'm gonna just let the Mo G's handle that. Exactly. Just because whatever I say, it's gonna be taken the wrong way. Wrong way. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, definitely. And be clear, I've told you, I come from there fighting there or so like that's not what bothers me. You know what I'm saying? Fighting, we can punch that right now and be breathing hard, you know what I mean? Get past it. But at the end of the day, I'm not in that man's shoes. Exactly. You know, so. Well, one thing I can say about it, man, the music, when I listened to that song that you guys did together, how did y'all come up with that whole song and how did y'all, I know he's your label, but the harder ratchet, like how did y'all come up with that whole, you know, concept? So Derek McKinney, who's my manager right now at age time, but knowing him for years, he's been helping me when I was, me and Ronnie was dealing with dirty water. But he came to me one day and was like, hey, you know what, we got a show, not a show, we got a tour with Gyro. Tim Nebb was traveling with Gyro across the world, and the Netherlands and all different places. And you're like, yo, come, come rock out with us. Start rocking out with him. Start doing some songs. Next, you know, you're like, know what? We're going to do a group. We're going to go out of group, all the ratchet. I'm like, yeah. Okay. First, I was a little skeptical, right? He do business a little different than me. I'm used to going to the studio, dropping the club records, boom, boom, boom, blowing up. He more like, no, no, no. We're going to strategically do this. COVID hit. We got the whole album already done. Sonny Orchard, they bullshitting, you know what I'm saying? I'm putting the project out. So we had to wait. Then Mrs. was waiting. We started working on most songs. He said, you know what? We're going to put a zero on this. Reach out to Ro. Do the business right. Ro did the song. Then it was real cold in Houston. He said, let's do the video. So I'm like, all right, babe. We did the video. Ro showed up. You know, Ro ain't going to show for everybody if he doesn't show it up. Next, you know, we started getting traction with the artist ratchet. The tour started opening up. Now we are the first. The first day we had was, uh, I want to see what's, what's in my, what's in May? Um, is it Memorial weekend? Yeah, Memorial weekend. We open up for color. Right. We open up a little dirt to change. We go so hard. They like, yo, we need to put y'all on the rest of the tour. So I start rocking out with them. Next thing you know, I'm on MTV jam, BT jams with that video. Next thing you know, we on tour of Snoop. We're going to snoop for two weeks. Then we on tour with the baby. We did four shows with him. Now we on the road. Gucci main down in Corpus. Trap boy, Freddie yellow, BZ. Uh, BFG strap. They all down there. So now we got legs going. So it's like, all right. Cool. Making a little noise. We still ain't dropped the album yet. Everybody keep asking me when you get new fat pink music. I don't need fat pink right now because there's a whole new rebranding process going on. Now it goes from people saying, I know what fat pink going to do to who the hell is the artist ratchet? So next thing we do we drop this new red car. Sneaking Lane. Yeah, I see now. Now we got big bink back in 97 nine. Yeah, yeah. So it's a whole new game changer because Hollywood Zay is telling him, Hey, we need to rock all the racks. They from Texas and we support. Now I'm on the radio again. Dope dope. How does it feel to be back on the radio? I broke down. I don't care. I broke down when I'm not here at the first time, but just being in the car and getting a phone call. And my son is like, pops you on the radio. I'm like, okay. Cool. No, no, no. Like you on the radio again. Then you get into it. Then you get my mama hearing it. That's like the greatest feeling when you feel like you are when your family returns. After all the work that you put in. But it's never enough, bro, because we live in a society. Now you kind of want that gratification. Now you want to feel the internet love. You want to feel people recording when they're in the cars. But when my son tripped out, they heard me on the radio. Oh, yeah. It was good, man. And then 97 nine. They not playing the other Dallas music. Can't afford not playing the other Dallas music. Not too long. But it's an accomplishment. Because now I'm in the era of they can say no. Yeah. You know what I mean? So that's a blessing, man. And shot the 97 nine. Man, that's that's no chance. I'm in 97 nine in Houston. Yeah, because every time every time I look on the internet, because I'll be scrolling through to see what's going on was new all of that. I see you everywhere. I see you working like crazy. And when I'll be looking up other people to interview you friends with everybody. I'll have no problem with nobody. When you call me this morning. I have zero problems with nobody because it's hard as it is. I try to stay neutral. I preach to people when I talk to them. There was something going on. I try to preach to them. I got a good rapport with everybody. I did the big three with Ice Cube. I saw that. I was about to ask you about that. Yeah. And so how did you get that gig? Tony Draper. Okay. Tony Draper. I haven't heard that name in a long time, man. I've been doing like doing the big three with Ice Cube. Hanging out with Ice Cube. Yeah, man. I interviewed Mr. Mike a while back and he talked about Tony Draper. Oh, a gig, man. Yeah. Man, that's a good people. We was trying to do some business together a couple of years back. It didn't work. But we kept a good relationship. This girl named Vesti. She had a Houston, a Nigerian chick. And she was like, yo, I'm in a meeting with Draper. I got something for you. And I would get a phone call from my man. He's like, yo, you want to do a big three? I'm like, hell, yeah. Live on CBS. Got to meet Ice Cube. How was that? The first time I went up to him, I was shitting bricks, man. Because I'm like, this is cute, man. He could easily brush me off. You know, he's so paid, he don't really need to meet nobody else. But he was cool. He was like, man, I heard your name a couple of years back. And I get to put a name on the face. I like the music. He said he actually had, did his homework on him. It's like, cool. Because he knew he was going to perform. Right. After we got through performing, I'm backstage. He come up to me and say, yo, take some pics. I'm like, cool. He said, I just got the phone with your cousin. I said, who? Oh, he know. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't have to tell him that. Yeah. No, he didn't tell him nothing. He did his research research. Yeah. Before this, before this, before this, before this, so silent, like if I tell him, I'm on the road, Snoop, or I tell him on the road, somebody that's his, that's his partner, like Cube or Snoop is his partner. So I told him, I'm doing it with Cube. He hit him up. That's love. I didn't hit him with Snoop though. I dropped the ball on the Snoop. Yeah. Did he find out afterwards? Yeah. But the thing about it was Snoop's team, they like, very protective of him. You can't get around them. The only thing we said to Snoop on the whole tour was, he was like, you know, good shit, cause he gave me the pound. That was cool. That was cool. I wanted to kick it with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you even get a picture? I couldn't even get a picture with him. No pics. No pics because it was like, it's like, everybody else who on tours on this side of the arena, he got his own. Wow. Man, you know, we've been having a lot of people come on, man. Sometimes people. A whole bunch of people. Listen, man, it's been so crazy, man. We had, we had, you that say, say cheese, done chief dilemma that went on over here, man. Yeah. Some people say that done chief is a legend. Some people say that he's, you know, he's disgruntled. When you've seen that, being a Dallas pageant, and they, you know, I know you have love for everybody, but when you've seen that, I know people say, man, that damn boss talking messy. No, you just give me the platform. I'm like, nigga, whatever, man. I'm just basically just letting the nigga get it off. Cause somebody say, like, if you say this or that, and like you just said, oh no, I'm not speaking. That's cool. But if you speak on somebody, then you got to know that that person might end up on there saying something back to say, hey, man, you know, yeah, nigga, you know what I'm saying? You can't be one-sided, especially when you say you're trying to be neutral. Neutral for me is like, if I know two people that are into it, I'm not taking their side. No. But if you ask me some questions like, I don't care what you ask, I'ma give it to you wrong. Yeah, yeah, no. So you're talking about like that situation. Yeah, like, do you think, I think Chief was wrong. I think Chief was a legend. I think people got to understand you had a pocket for discrediting anybody who gave the platform to teach Dallas Niggas how to do music. Yeah. How to stay out of jail, hustling, and doing the music. He did both. Like, people got to get that man his flowers. And if he irritated about it, that's just what it is. You can't tell another man how to not to feel. Yeah, but when you think about the fact of some saying Chief not working no more like that and they, you know, feel like, you know, you know, how would they post him if he don't have the music to back it up? What Chief, what Chief has to do is Chief has to connect with the youngsters and show him how they stay relevant. That's how I had to learn. I got tic-tac now. Um, my son tell me if it's wack. So you like this? Because then that you don't get lost in the South. You don't have another old nigga that ain't really putting out nothing that's relatable. Because the niggas that was our fans 10, 15 years ago, they ain't on the internet. They're not coming out, they're streaming your music. If you want to be streamed, you want to be relevant on the internet, you got to do something that's relevant to that generation. So do you, with Sean, the way he, did he do anything wrong? Why not putting Chief back on this? Hell yeah. I think so. Why? Because this is what I feel. I feel that anytime you mention something about Dallas at some point you got to have respect for the OGs. You don't got to respect all of it, but you got to have a platform to say, you know what, he can, he can get his shit to go. Yeah. Instead of just telling the nigga you ain't going to put him on that fool, it's like, help that man out. I mean, helping to understand why? Man, it's not about helping to understand why. Show him the direction. You did what I'm saying, teach him, because we didn't have social media when he was out. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a whole different ballgame now. You got to be, at some point you got to be a stand-up nigga and be like, you know what, I'm not going to argue with you, bro. I did an interview for Sean when he didn't have to. You feel like Sean should at least gave him the respect to say, hey man, this how you need to link from here on out. Because I ain't going to lie, say Jesus, a big platform. A lot of people watch that platform. I, he been on here a couple of times. When you look at like, like Sean basically having a platform like he got billing it up. You think Dallas had a lot to do with that foundational bill for him? Yeah. I also, I also did some shit like how chief is feeling right now. I did an interview with Terry Blue and I called Sean and caught him a whole ass nigga. Why? Because I was calling his phone, calling his phone, calling his phone and he wasn't answering. He say he working on that. Yeah, but that's to me working on it. He does that to everybody. Right, but to him, you got to understand something. We come from the area if you don't, if you don't want me calling on phone, just answer the phone and say, hey, I'm busy. But I had to, I had, I put my foot in my mouth and called him and said, why was you so mad? I said, because I'm in a meeting with Atlantic Records and they're like, do you know Sean Cotton? I'm like, yeah, I know him from the column. Boom. Get to Houston. Kia didn't need his number. I'm blowing his phone up. He didn't answer, but I text him on his birthday and he responded. So I, I kind of harbored those. He's right. But when I did the interview instead of me answering and how I should have answered I called him a whole ass nigga. They ran with it and then young niggas told me up in the comments. Yeah. Because they don't say you all in this drama. Well, they didn't call me this. You kind of whole ass nigga get mad because another man won't answer the phone. But my head, I'm like, bro, if you call me to do something, I'm gonna answer the phone. I come from the air. I don't know if I told you that story about PMC. He said, if somebody, your nigga, you should be able to call them on the phone. If they pick up the phone, they show me a lot of days. He told short, he told my nigga Bido about a short dog when he had called short dog a fake nigga. He told Bido, man, call that niggas, phone them on, then nigga answer the phone. PMC was one of them people. So I stand on those principles. My problem was I shouldn't have said it on the interview. I should have just waited till I seen Sean and said, yo, did I do something wrong? Because we don't, we act off old nigga emotions, bruh. You know what I'm saying? You really don't connect. Did you ever have a chance to talk with Sean and tell him, tell him, hey man. Not face to face, but I've told people around him that I should have never like disrespected that man, call them the whole ass nigga. And I'm one of the people like you said, you're human, you made mistakes, but you gotta be man enough to say, you know what, I shouldn't have called them the whole ass nigga. So I waited till I seen them and asked them like, yo, why you don't pick up the phone? Because you know what happened next? My wife is watching Big D, the mogul. He said, what's your biggest problem? He said, man, answering the phone. He said that on here too. That's why when I seen him on here, he said it too. But I don't, it ain't no smoking on me and Sean. I think of me and Sean probably laughing. He probably not even remembering that shit, but it hurt me because them young niggas was in my inbox. They don't play by Sean, like they gotta hell of a following. You know, I'm gonna be honest with you, I like to you and to him and just, I'm fairly indebted because for the fact of you guys didn't have to come over here like you did. I always look at that. She know how I am. I don't play by it. I'm a check on you. I check on everybody. And I just, you know him, you know, I don't call him because I know he ain't gonna answer. I think he ain't gonna answer. So I'll be like, I'll text him and say, man, you good, man, keep pushing. But I'm just saying, hey, because not only him, I've been friends with a lot of people like certain people that left here and became multimillionaires out of this store. And they didn't answer the phone a lot of times. But then they came on my platform and it was like, I respect you so much because when I was playing ball and I was here, you didn't, you would always just check on me. You never did. You knew that I was busy and you a hustler. So, and so he got it. You know what I mean? He had Sean as well too though. I'll be real with you. Go ahead. It's a new generation and they deal with mental health differently. We was coming up. Even your mom was having a bad day at work. She still had to come home and face reality. You know what? I'm gonna just click out. I'm out of there. I'm just not going to answer the phone. Shut down. Shut their Facebook down and shut the Instagram down. We're from the old school. You had to deal with it. Yeah, you suck it up and do it but then a lot of times the old school, they reacted in other ways that wasn't healthy because you, you didn't talk about it. That's where we got the drugs that came into play. Well, one thing you said, you said, well, Sean, should I pull Chief to the side and just say, hey, let me show you how to do this. Right. But I don't know Chief very well. You do. Very well. Is he the type of person that would have listened? Yeah. Or he would have seen you laughing. You know he probably wouldn't have listened. I think this is me personally because me and Chief have been in the studio. I was the first nigga to put Chief on Instagram Live. I mean, I was the first one. You know what I'm saying? I'm a partner at Squireway Studio and I put him on Instagram Live. He wasn't really feeling it but I guarantee you if Sean would have been like, look, my audience don't like this. I'm going to show you how we can use what you got and turn you up. Because Sean turned up my partner, she's drugs, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. For me, it's like, if I know you can do something and you don't do it, it made me feel like, bro, you don't rock with me. But that's you. Yeah. Like I said, for him just to come with me is that helps. You know what I mean? So, and you being fat pimp, that helps. Let's just, this is, I'm going to just project this in the world. Let's just say when I get this next big hit record, right? I'm doing interviews with people and they start asking me about what's going on in Dallas. So, you know, who's the media? Who's really out here putting in work? And I name drop everybody but you when they ask me about you and I say something like, I don't really know. How would that make you feel? I've been done like that here lately. That's my point and I just kind of unfollowed the person who went on about my business because he evidently don't want to be involved with what I got going. So it ain't no, it ain't no thing where I don't hate because I don't know him. I don't really know these people. But at the end of the day if you, the type of person that you know you see me showing you love and because I show love like I said my platform a little different. I'll be showing mad love to niggas. I don't even know just because I feel like nobody shows the love I give you something. Cash Payes did an interview in New York maybe about a year or two years ago. The ladies, oh you from Dallas? You heard a trap boy for it in Yellow Bees and she was like I'll never really heard of them. They turned her up in the comments. I DM'd on some big brothers like hey, this how you answer them questions. You be like, oh yeah, yeah, I heard them doing that thing. You know, shout out to them because what you're doing is you deflecting the hating. Even if you're on rock with somebody, you think she's needed anything. No, no, she needed that. It's because it's the younger when you 18 years old, she was like 18, like a baby. She don't really know about it. She don't really know like when I watch some of these interviews with a lot of these youngsters on there, especially like the younger women, they're kind of, they're not timid. They just don't really, they don't really feel like answering a lot of them questions. It's kind of like they're not interested because nobody's there to tell them they're like this. Yeah. But isn't that what what the air and are supposed to do is pull them to the side back in the day before. Yeah. And like teach them how to do these interviews and how to deflect for certain things and all of that. Back in the day, they used to have artist development. Right. Have y'all seen Lil Baby's new documentary? No. But I'm going to watch it. Okay. I'm just telling you I don't spoil it, but I'm going to say this. The way he talked to the hard for street artists to do interviews in the beginning, they lacked trust. And you watch Lil Baby do interviews. Now he can hold a conversation in the room. So anybody watching is going to go check that out. You'll see Lil Baby do a transition. That's dope. No. We got some dope artists in the Dallas area, man. Yeah. You know, these guys, man, definitely a dope, but we got dope artists in the south. I pay attention more to the south than anything. That's why I like to be referred to as the south for me. The south for me. And that's the way and you know where I'm coming from. We can't see. We like We like We basically we're trying to carry that legacy on and we know how he looked at it. So you'll hear me say stuff like that. But that's why I'm trying to do something to impress the south up. You know what I mean because that's the whole game because you got some dope artists down here that don't get that love up on the east or west coast. So I'll be trying to figure out a way to push people up push people and then I'll know these people but I just say I got to do this so that people will keep our sight on what we're doing down here since they're watching boss talk. That's the part. I'm going to do that. I'm definitely going to do that. Any chance I get whether I rock with you I can't go by that because a lot of them like I say I don't know them so I can't be mad at somebody I don't know for not rocking with me. I can't do that but at the end I can't go by I like that song or I like you know what I'm saying that's what I go by if I'm dealing with the music if I'm dealing with an interview or see somebody I'm like I like the way that guy handles himself in the interview might not know him but still showing the mad love you know what I'm saying so what's this number one song on Amazon man that's called Thick Fine Woman yeah Charlie Boy featuring me Little Ronnie and no shame yeah how'd y'all come over there 13 or 14 yeah tiktok blew it up oh tiktok took that thing real yeah I forgot the girl name who cranked up the dance and it was this dude calling working like working like a Mexican yeah it blew up and he got the white cow boys dancing to it really yeah man let me tell y'all something when these DJs tell y'all these records ain't the ones man y'all better stop listening keep pushing them records yeah a lot of DJs haters man really a lot of hell yeah most of them are haters man they know they're doing it purposely to try to keep shine off certain people yeah because these labels are calling DJs and they deflect in them plays so they're working with the labels to try them man the same way the same way Sean cut no rain water get phone calls from the label DJs get them calls too and the label might be say yo man this is XYZ popping and they say oh no he ain't really got no motion come on man I gotta realize I got so many good relationships in New York I used to be in New York when a lot of these Texas I'm in New York in the meetings and stuff hearing what's going on just like we dropped a stick for our one on record man nobody nobody was supporting this record down here nobody now it's number one on Amazon it was number six on tiktok man like it was one of the bubbling songs on the billboards it didn't hear billboards yeah but it's bubbling so like man people gotta stop playing stop playing on my catalog man wow and that's dope that you know that you can't control what happens with this music now look at wreck daddy I'm saying like they treat this song like it's a brand new song and that's the whole game of tiktok it'll take some and mean you can say something right now and it could go crazy and you don't never know what that might be yeah so you just gotta say it back and it could be five years from now and you said it five years ago with the way social media moving just like you just said it could be ten years ago but you know what I tell people this man if you got longevity in this industry ten years plus you got knowledge you know everybody don't make it ten years business or rap they go back working at wild mart whatever they do go to jail crash out but you make it ten years you got knowledge you know what you're doing wow and you been doing this a minute bro and I want and I'm gonna tell you this live man I want to smoke with any artist man you know what I mean like when it comes to this music I feel like I'm number one I'm just gonna tell you this man and I've been home for too long I'm telling you but I mean see for me we could do a verses battle anybody I would like to say if you had to do a verses check battle with DeRoe who would win I would win what? flawless victory and what makes you what flawless victory can't nobody outperform me in the state of texas man like I'm the god when it comes to this performer man big nigga moving across the stage man like I do this shit man you got big song I got big song you understand I got records that people like oh I forgot that was his song like bro you ask any club I wouldn't tell you no we I wouldn't tell you bro like first of all there ain't no record that's gonna tie rank daddy bro like I created the Dallas the whole Dallas club music I created that I produced it like bro I know how to control the crowd man I knew how to DJ and you see before I was rapping man damn like niggas got to understand and wake up bro I didn't wake up doing this shit yesterday man so you just doing it long time 15 years in a game man I know what I'm talking about I know I knew basically I told you I told you I told that nigga I hear it bro I'm a creative bro it's the difference between being a nigga that can punch you in the no I'm a creative I start from the beginning it's the beat the bass the snares the hook the melodic hooks man coming up with them verses man like come on bro I changed the game man when I drive wreck daddy nothing sounded like that man I'm getting money because I picture the black band playing that stop playing with me man nobody out there doing what I'm doing man wow that's going to be crazy I had everybody how at home come and dance in the Maserati man when twerking what even in the thing I had them twerking in Texas I brought it here man like ice cream paint job went on that's cool that was a good record man it was a good record what you got but you got to understand man that shit don't sound like Dallas man oh it's different come on man it's a different sound I made my music from camp wisdom in the cockle hill Gannon Lane I want to smoke so the world watches I want to smoke man do the verses man the running the running tell you how I am man we used to do the fat running show starting East Texas man at Entaila we did a show and I realized man we got a lot of records man I want a friendly fade with that music man come on man the road you want who else man chief you want yeah chief be king you want anybody man I don't care who you name bro if they want let's do it man you get out there we need to do it don't give you the hits man come on come on man if you aint been on the bill matter of fact if you aint ever been on the billboard charts man this don't apply to you man yeah man like you say you want to smoke with Kelly man that's the energy we put right now man anybody want to smoke with the music man let's do it let's do it man that's what's going to keep it alive and you got to perform you got to perform you can't just be on stage playing your music now come on man once I take my shirt off it's a wrap man come on man man let me ask you about I wanted to ask some I wanted to ask some no because you mentioned you know whenever yellow beazy you already knew you already had the air for it and so forth I remember somebody came on before and was saying like a lot of these legends need to go ahead and start their own labels since they have the air for it and since they some of them not really doing music as much or they trying to do music but it's not popping like it's supposed to so like why not turn that and still make money by creating a label and bringing these young artists and teaching them the things that you've been knowing all these years young niggas don't want to listen to old niggas let's just keep it all the way real man when I was twenty one twenty two I ain't want to hear nothing nobody else had to say what it's going to take it's got to take older I don't say old niggas got to be older successful people who are relevant those are only people who are going to be able to say something man then you got to have a person like Sean Cotton like Terry Blue like yourself that can mediate man sit like a round table like let's try this when I look at QC I say they figured it out they figured it out they OG's you know what I'm saying like QC Coach K and them they OG's man but they running like a young label they figured it out so it's possible I think Dallas can do it Texas do it yeah I think Texas can do it I think the South can do it you know I think each one got to teach one you know I think we got to break down these walls and where people like we were saying yeah you got San Antonio you got you got Oklahoma over there you got you see what I'm saying you got you got hey Carpus Christi over there you got these Texas over there all of that you can ride across these Texas in about three and a half hours from Paris all the way across to Nacodotus you see that's a long ways bro you got a lot of people that I think we need to stop dividing these things up and come together like somebody with some sense it'll take some time but I think we can do it man respectfully I look at some of the artists that try to I shout out to Ro because he got Austin over there yeah man he got artists you know a lot of artists he put on Ace Boogie Young Nation some old people I remember he was putting on man there's a lot of artists just trying man we just got to we just got to support people when they trying even if they're not successful we still got to support them no I agree with that 100% man so we've been doing a lot of different interviews bro we've had some crazy instances in here that's crazy man I don't think that's why I say y'all keep the peace in here man bro it's not hard because I pray for people to come on this show I really am one over here who just basically what you see is what you get it ain't know it's the same for me every time it might be a different person in that seat but at the end of the day it's all respect you know what I mean so and it's a love but a lot of time people be talking I don't have to say you know what I'm saying but at the end of the day it's a lot of good people that don't came in here like yourself support the show watch the show shout us out you know that give us inspiration right when people do things publicly it means a lot these days it's about the cosign that's it even a like sometimes it's good I always tell people even when you give me a heart or a pound or whatever on the comment that goes a lot because people say damn that boy I ain't know who knew them and when I hear stuff in the interviews I try to share it on my story man you know I don't really like drum as much that's why I rock with y'all you know what I'm saying y'all kind of keep it whatever happens whatever happens you know when out here I have to wonder with it you know I can say that much I learned a lot too when the OG Bloods down here they were just there they were just there they fought yesterday you know they potted tix XO I didn't know she was she wrote that record for Big Sean yeah yeah that was crazy it really hurt my heart man she wrote it in her perception she had it he did the same video on the football field did video it happens though yeah it happens when you're smaller it happens man come on man it happens man because you gotta think about a small person who came out with something that's gonna be a hit and somebody bigger see it and be like I can take this way further this person ain't gonna have no money to get a lawyer to come after me so shoot I'm just gonna take whatever listen to go listen to my Dougie and then go listen to Pretty Boy Swag damn just listen to you know what I mean it's like people could come somewhere and hear something say like you said I can take this back where I'm going and turn it up turn it all the way up it happens man I got a list at home with records that I know that I came up with and I hear somebody else do it I'm like damn they went there they took it there you can sue them for it if you ain't got no money you're wasting your time I'ma say this to all the people that's watching this everybody feels like somebody took something from them I see producers all the time oh he stole my beat remember a couple months ago they was getting on yellow beads even he dropped this on the girl in Montana she had a record that was just like it it was all in his head but for me I was like damn I don't know man cause you just never know you really never know who's telling the truth yeah you don't know right and that's the thing about it I'm a friend believing in I heard Michael Jackson say this about how like when you're a creator God will give you the inspiration they call ideal bubbles right so if I come over some to have on a sample just print this purple rain I sit on it for like two or three days and I end up not doing it then about a month later it's out there trackboy freddy does the purple rain so next thing you know you're like damn didn't steal my idea no he didn't steal it it was just you said it to somebody and it went into the world the energy is out there so I tell people man it's tough so when people is really wasting money man if you ain't got the one good one and it's not even just that I really don't believe you come up with an idea right now that you didn't even tell anybody there's so many people in the world you can't tell me that you're the only person that thinking about that same exact idea somebody could be on the other side of the world and come up with that same idea no such things you understand what I mean so much that's real but it's hard when you're passionate and it's also hard when you broke when you broke when you broke and you feel like somebody the fuck you're over man it's like man I know this you're off of it what do you think about T.I. going over in the comedy I support T.I. I just know that when you when you transfer I'm not transfer when you transition to another another art it's gonna be tough even like with the acting I got in front of some real there's been I guess you could say and I blew it the first the first day we shot like I fucked up the whole the whole day next day we went to the table read they said hey let's try something different they broke it down something that you're performing in front of a rap concert right and focus on delivering the character exactly so it'll take you time who came on here and said that acting oh Jordan Jackson okay he's a comedian he's like and he does skits all the time he's like let me tell you acting is a totally different beast you're going that it's not as easy as people make it seems yeah I definitely bummed a few shoots but I'm in a movie coming out called okay it's coming out December December 11th I'm not mistaken shot here in Dallas shot right here in Dallas who did it my mind just went fucking blank right now she's gonna kill me Callie Miss Santee Miss Santee that's her name Miss Santee what's about damn you can't give it it's just about it's just about the trials and tribulations of a female she went through things in the household okay confided in some people what you play in the movie I played like love scenes you know what they asked me was I comfortable I was like hell you don't cause first I was like man you mind taking a shirt off what I'm gonna shirt off man and they were like would you be comfortable doing a love scene hell yeah I'm good I'm good man I'm gonna do it but respectfully man we didn't do it on that one but I told them any other film leave me man like oh I'm ready because I take it seriously what okay yeah you I definitely would have I gotta ask them this right now tell me let's go I really don't I had never asked nobody this question you been from old Cliff just felt like asking and do you think Boosie ever come back to Dallas you know me back to Dallas have he performed he did nothing like he formed or nothing did I'm pretty sure he's gonna perform again you think so why not yeah so you why not like everything man people get shot oh man y'all ain't like you tell me man you tell me man we talking about Boosie too he's arrogant to never come back to Dallas man he used to come here a lot too man let me tell you something I don't know what the story behind there but I know Boosie is arrogant enough to come back he's gonna come back he might come back to the big team damn but he never whenever he come back he not gonna make it like publicize that he here we never know we never know you know he's two pockets favorite rapper damn it boy and he a UGK baby too yeah he is definitely a UGK baby that's why I'm a big fan of Boosie man definitely always looking at what he gonna do next man I hope one day he be sitting in his seat that's why I asked that you know because I know he the type of cat that will come over and rock with me Boosie is a solid dude man you know I rock with Boosie Boosie is one of my first shows he did I opened up for Boosie at a club it was a it's my doosie man whatever it is now he give people opportunity man like even T-Rail was on here and he gave I like that dude man man I love T-Rail he's song man but I just like the way you know he's humble he's cute and the situations he talked about you can't make that up bruh so I'm like this is a solid he good man tank rock with him tank really rock with him I like him man I really hope that he gets to make it make it like really like yeah like yeah just keep going and he's very persistent because he even say like he not scared like he loves to do features and he's not scared he'll hit you up and hit you up and hit you up till you answer him that's good man yeah he been he been on some niggas niggas he said he running from him he love mode 3 though man man love mode 3 that's the one thing man you know and then rain that's what rain told him he won't go to a show cause he it hurt him you know what I mean to hear them songs like that man I got good relationship him too yeah yeah what you know I might start something the fact that the fact though is with rain water man I was just about to ask you give me one of your crazy stories about rain we at king of diamonds open and for those of them I was one of the one of the part owners of king of diamonds Ricky my cousin and he was a pentagon yeah and so for most people they know the fact he was spot but rain walks in the clubs by like 3 in the morning and I met the friend though taking the money and I ain't gonna lie I never told him this man but this year he heard my feelings he said I said I said hell no I know you ain't got no fucking job I know you ain't up for it working in front of the club he said that's right I'm over making sure we get this money but to him he see me he shocked him cause he didn't know I was at the front though and then he called me he called me he said bro hell no you too famous bro to be a he didn't like there and then I tried to do a podcast I hadn't even started the podcast I had just told my DJ let's do a radio no radio show okay radio music he didn't respond he just read and didn't respond so I'm like fuck that call him he said he said nigga you got a bottle maybe three or four more his song's left in you he said I'm not giving you none of my three music I'm not giving you none of my hardest music none of that shit cause you need to be making music you need to get the studio and get the fucking out of that as quick fucking with them niggas over there you fucking that's it that's it that's it I'm using a lot of sex and shit to my cousin cause I might up Yella have a radio and I like the thing that he told my cousin fuck fat pimp man damn right that's am�c that he never know that I was one of the niggas naïve he watching calculation but he got a lot of He called me like that. I didn't love you to death, but he was talking to us. I put him on speakerphone when he in the car so my wife could hear it. She was like, man, she said, y'all don't get into it. I said, nah, man. Not really. I let Rain talk, man. I let Rain talk and I listen to what I want to listen to. Exactly, man, amen. But it's a lot of good people in the Dallas area, man. When you look at all the people we've interviewed, even Lodeezy, Lodeezy, one of those guys that come over here, man, and he all wants to see. Has he let you hear his music? His early music when he did that with me. No, no, no, no, no. He got new music. Man, Lodeezy got new music. He out here, he out here. Don't tell the new people around here, man. Lodeezy stopped trying to like hide, man. Why he hiding now? I don't know, man, like R.P. Lodeezy. He just got Snooty Wildman. He got brand new songs with him. Lodeezy got a hard drive without his music, man. But he don't play that fool down. What are you doing for him? Man, Lodeezy's doing what Lodeezy wanted to do. No, Lodeezy's a daddy and a manager, man. Right. Come on, man. Lodeezy's doing for fun. Yeah, yeah, man. I just seen Lodeezy and that's what I'm talking about, man. You know, it's crazy. I always run into him out of town, too. Yeah. Let me, let me give me the story about how you end up being, getting signed or affiliated to rap a lot. Cause it was something happened. Yeah, this is what- I got this insight, man, like some slow-joke career down. Yeah. Tell me what happened with that. All boys to the side, it was a company out in Houston called Yipi Records. Yipi was supposed to be like a money-backing situation. Signed with them, cause I met Mr. Lee. Okay. Mr. Lee was there, squad face was in the office. That was one of them surreal, man. I seen face, I was like- That's real, right there. I ain't never met that nigga. I'm like, this nigga a hero. You ain't never met a face? Yeah, I met him when I was young. We were both young. That's my uncle, man. Yeah, we were young. We was at Lakeside and he- I remember you told me that. Yeah, that was a long time ago. He was too short. So, yeah, a guy with Lee was solidified the deal. I was talking to Block and Tamey. He wanted me to do Boys in the Hood, part two. It was my childhood, my boy Ray Potter, grew up without him. He wanted me and him to be a part of Boys in the Hood cause Gigi was already gone. Yeah. And she started moving. Got the phone call, man, and we going to LA. See with Warner Brothers. We sitting in front of Warner Brothers and I'm like, man, for a nigga from Texas to be out here in LA with the palm trees, it was on. Didn't sign the deal. Waited about another week with the New York again. Met with a Universal. Okay. I'll tell you about that story later. Then met with Warner Brothers, we found out we were there and the guy who interviewed us in LA was like, man, sign that nigga right now. Like, stop playing. So got the paperwork. They said, you know, we go back to Houston and we'll sign it or whatever. Got to Houston, ready to paperwork, we signed it. Big party when we get home. A week go by, I need your bank account information. I'm like, all right, cool. I'm telling all my niggas like, yo, we can be paid like 300 feet of $1,000 from the being in the bank account. Yeah, I'm fine. For that wire transfer. I'm like, ooh, shit, cause that almost done. Yeah. Man, get a phone call. I need you to pull up to the house. That's what Mr. Lee said. Like, all right, cool. He had a big projection screen in the studio. He clicked the email and it says, season this is on behalf of James McMillan, which is Jay Prince, attorney. Damn. So I'm still, you know, not understand what the fuck is a season decision. He said basically like, they're trying to like say the contract ain't valid. And I'm like, why? He said, cause it's Jay Prince, but he never really explained to me what was going on. Yeah, I was about to say like, why would he do that? He had his own contract situation with Jay Prince. I guess that he wasn't allowed to do what he did. Okay, Mr. Lee. And then I found out that Jay was partners with the company that I signed to, the Yipri company. And he's the one that set up the deal. And so somebody in the midst of it tried to snake him out the situation. Oh, okay. To this day, I don't know who was the person that like tried to cut him out the deal. Cause I didn't know, I'm just thinking, Fat Pimp signed on the Warner Brothers and that's just what it is. Yeah. But yeah, somebody snaked him. Somebody snaked him. And this is how I got ugly. Cause now that I'm irritated because I got the whole world thinking I'm signing on Warner Brothers, I'm still trapping it, you know what I'm saying? Our apartment cause I'm like, shit, I gotta look the park. Then I get other labels like Jive, many fresh ones that give me signed to Atlantic Records. Just a whole bunch of different people was trying to give me sign. But they kept saying like, somebody is saying that you signed on them. And I'm like, can't be nobody. I run into, I can't think of this dude's name. He was an attorney who was like, yeah man, there's some people speaking bad on your name. And who was it with the Yippie people? Damn. They was mad cause I was trying to go get my own little situation going. And Mr. Lee kind of had disappeared when start doing his own thing. I ran into J Prince. Seeing J Prince in the club, told him what was going on. You can't just walk up on J, but J was very inviting. Yeah. Invited me to the section, gave me a bottle of wine and shit, man. And I told him my case just said, this is what's going on. They keep saying I'm signing to you. And then he's like, it was like, no, he said you did what you was, you know, what you was obligated to do. And he said, matter of fact, I'm a car you want to set up a meeting. We set up a meeting. J was there. Mr. Lee was there. I was there. My manager was there. And the nigga that was holding my contract was there. J told the nigga, he said, get that man his paper where he released papers and stop playing. Damn, made him get on. It had a calm tone though. It wasn't like how I just said it. He said a real calm. They try to say they didn't have it. So he called an assistant to go in the office and they gave me my release papers. Said it was done. And ever since then, it's been love or rap a lot because I was crazy about Houston here. Everybody knew everybody. And I'm living out there, man. They calling me to do the 25 year reunion on a rapper like compilation. I did four records. I only got one. Dope, dope. It was me, Manifrest, Wacka Flocka, Juvenile, all on the same record and stuff. It's nothing but love, man. You know, it's monetized, man, with me, you know what I'm saying? Man, that's dope, man. I got love for J, Junior. Come on, man. Jazz, my, jazz. I'm trying to get that. What's that nigga name that we always be talking about over here that J Prince, Junior got over this? For this? For this two times. I'm trying to get that nigga on this subway. Solid nigga, man. Man, I ain't got to never meet him, but my, my, my coals always talking crap about it. That is love, man. I gotta get that nigga over here, man. Man, fat hippie, you're on the phone with me here. He's supposed to make a call and get him over here for us. My baby brother's bringing him to the club. Done cheap, say. He's going to bring his birthday party. Oh, his birthday, that's next weekend. Yeah. Yeah, we got to make it happen. I'm going to call him over here. I'm going to get him over here. I'm going to get out from my car, my brother. Yeah, okay. See if he'll come through for a little while. We're going to be out of town after, but we, next week, we got to get that nigga quick. We got to get that nigga this week. I'm going to try and see if I can get him in here for y'all. See if you can. I just, man, I love the interviewer, man. My brother, he really tight with him, so. For sure? Man, that's dope, man. Anybody that you think need to be on this platform, you hit me up. You know, we be doing our thing now. Don't get it to us. That's how it's so hard to say, like, who y'all ain't already interviewed or about to interview, man, every time I'm like, when y'all got hit there, I was like, damn, it's about time somebody's going to interview him, man. He been coming there ever since he was about 15. He lived around the corner. He be heard there on the interview. Yeah, and see him, he's also somebody that I got a lot of respect for because when I don't got nothing popping on the internet, he'll tell me, like, yo, this record need to be pushing. He gonna, he tell me. Never ask me, never ask for no money. He vouch for me in the meetings. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like when I had dropped this record call, it's your birthday. That was J.Y. Produce. He ran it in a V live. Man, J.Y.P. will be on Boss Talk, man. Go ahead. Yeah, we gonna make that. I can make that happen. No, I'm not gonna talk. You probably will. We gotta make it happen. All the y'all is busy. Family, he got nigga, she should help her. Hit that, man. He made, like, that birthday song, the V live birthday song, it was your birthday and shit, man, so. That's dope, man. Help with some strings, man. I think he doing this thing, right? No, he doing it. He doing this thing. Anybody that's a good daddy, rock with them. That's right. Them boys and them kids, man. I always call them. He's trying to figure it out, nigga. I love that dude. Man, I got a lot of love for everybody, man. I think the only thing I lack in this city is just the new artist I wanna work with some of them. Some of them? Yeah, some of them staying real standoffish. Yeah. Yeah. You and Charles ain't done nothing again? Me and Charles got a record. Me and Charles, uh, see, you gotta realize when I was living in Houston, like, I'm like really like a lot of these, I was here, bro. You know what I'm saying? These niggas was coming up, man. Yeah. I worked with all of them. That's dope. Charles is a good nigga. The only thing me and Charles ain't done recently was supposed to be getting a writing session going on. Yeah. That's the wrong way now. Okay, okay. That's my job, man. Yeah, he was just here. I wanna work with Charles, man. I had that sauce on this show, yeah, but I've been working on it until that nigga stopped playing, man. I had what's the name? Southwood Winning, though. Me and Charles were really good niggas over there. Yeah, I love that nigga, man. Yeah, man, Charles got a lot of good people over there, man. Vucci, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my door, like Vucci. Vucci? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know, you ain't gonna get along with everybody, man. But Vucci, man, I developed a social media relationship with him, you know? Charles, man, I really wanna get one in. I got one more question to ask you, man. What's that? You're a big UGK fan, man. Got one. When you went down over there, I had the verses out. You probably seen my episode when I was crying and everything, but. What did you think about it? I was mad. You were like me, wasn't you? See, I knew I wasn't crazy, man. Listen, this is the thing. I'm A-Bot, M-J-G, you know. I love them, too. It ain't the same without the pimp, man. And then I feel like they shouldn't have had it in Atlanta, man. Who is that? It should have been in Texas, man. That's just me. Like, well, come on, it should have been. I'll tell them both of that, didn't I? It should have been in Houston somewhere, man. Niggas from Texas could be there and give UGK the proper flowers that they deserve, man. That's it. I felt the same way, man. That's just me, man. I'm like so pimp-sy, gonna be loyal, man. It's like, you can't, you can't have that. You can't even play with them. Don't even play with them because you play with them, niggas, get mad. We be over upset. Like, don't even play with them. And I'm over here like, well, man, you should have told them niggas you wasn't doing it over there. But then I don't know their situation, man. Yeah. But I want to mention, because I know earlier when you were talking about your deal with Warner Brothers, you mentioned Universal. And he said, oh, I'll get to that later. What happened with Universal? She won't tell the info. Man, listen, man, I'll never even talk about this, man. But I'm gonna tell y'all this, this whole agenda that they got going on right now with the rappers, you know, playing with the, I don't know what the, what's that word when he kind of dressed like a women and stuff? The Drowsdick or something like that? Yeah, yeah. Man, I seen that, man. I seen what their vision was, man, back in 2009. Really? You wasn't with it, you wasn't with it. It was like, it was new up from Texas, bros. You know what I'm saying? It's like, we don't. We don't do that. We don't do that. But certain artists was over there at that time, man. You start to see like, oh, shit. This was the whole plan. Cause it's working right now. Wow. So do you regret not doing it? Hell no. I stand on principles, man. I follow, y'all are really, I follow Ferrican, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, but no, no, no, because I'm like so, I'm like so pro black man in the house, so pro like me and a black father. So certain things I'm not compromising. Man, thank you so much, man. We love you, man, for sure. Appreciate y'all, man. Man, Fat Pimp, you one of them guys, man. You know over here, this platform, you know, we open door for you, bro. So I really want y'all to continue to just keep growing, man. For me, I love seeing just the growth. Thank you, man. We gon' definitely keep working. We push it. I've been seeing the hate too. That's all right. I've been seeing the hate lately. That's when I say, you know, these niggas have finally made it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we got a mutual nigga that I'm cool with, man. I seen him hating one day and I was just like, man, you can't do that, bro, but. You don't know the niggas, man. Like you, you know, whoever was doing it, probably don't even know us. A lot of people don't know us, you know that. But the thing about it is when they hating, bro, that lets you know you on that radar. Yeah, yeah. So like with chief, that's what I'm telling you, with chief, by him doing what he's doing, y'all don't realize y'all are letting these young niggas figure out who he is, man. That's what it is. You know how many people are looking at his interview and looked at him and went back in the comments and said, man, let's say nigga mused, that nigga mused it. Come on, man. Stop playing, bro. That nigga mused it. I know you used to listen to him before. Give chief his flowers, man. And he was out of state, niggas. This wasn't no niggas easy. This is niggas that looked him up. I'm like, damn. Give chief his flowers, man. And also at the same time, give some of the kindness flowers to him. Like I said, I ain't gonna never, never forget him coming on here. He didn't have to do that. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, you don't get, don't get it twisted now. Hey, listen to, when y'all get off here, get on YouTube and listen to Dallas verse everybody. Okay. It was Sean Cotten and my boy DJ Frosty. Okay. And they put this project, it's this one song. They put this little song together, the key song track did the beat. And mode three goes last on there. He was like the last person they added on there. When y'all listen to it, you'll realize how important bridging the gap is. Because I don't got on records with mode three, you know what I'm saying? Like that was the only record I ever got with him. And that happened because of Sean Cotten and DJ Frosty. Wow. Yeah. There's a lot of people, there's a lot of people on that song that ain't rapping no more, man. But when you hear mode three, you can kind of hear like why he was that nigga. I gotta ask you this, when you say that, a lot of people, you know, it's been, now it's been some things saying where that, you know, like kind of like, like Sean calls this boy to crash out. Been a few people that came on and people, I hear them said stuff like that. How do you feel when you hear people say that, like Sean calls mode three to get in that situation? I'm gonna say respectfully, man, like, you know, like, I don't think no man calls another man to crash out. I don't really feel like mode three crashed out. I just feel like, man, just to pause that beat like, God didn't want him here as long as he, you know, longer than what he was here for. Yeah. I like it. Mode three kind of went out, you know what I'm saying? Mode three went out in a really after way, man. But I kind of feel like even in death, man, I feel like he still was in control. If that's, if that's, if that ain't too real. Monimo's always tell me he wouldn't, he didn't, he wasn't trying to get away like that. He said, he looked at him on the camera like, man, he wasn't trying to, it was like he could have left, man. He was just trying to, doing the more, he could have jumped over, he could have did this, you know, and everybody got the thing they say, but man, mode three, man. Like I said, short, man, listen, long live mode three. He got them kids, them three kids, man. I got to shout them out. His mom, man, his family, man. We open this platform up and I've always, you know, we try to make sure that, that we show him love in some kind of way, especially dealing with rain or whoever, same thing I do for anybody, man. But definitely, man, when somebody passed on, like C-Strux brothers came, did you see the episode when they came in? Yeah, you know, C-Strux is my day one, man. You know, I, that, that, that was dope, right? I can't look at them, man. Cause he looks just like him, man. Like me, like me and C-Strux manager, 18, man. Like it'd be days, man. We still on the phone talking about Strux, man. It hurts, bro. Yeah. It's hard for me to look at them, man. Even when I see his kids, man, I just. It's tough, man. It's tough, man. Yeah. Man, all right, P-Strux. That's the only thing that bothers me about him. Nobody really be big enough his name. Yeah. Like, you know, when he was here, he helped a lot of people out, cosign and boosting them up. But they don't really be screaming, my brother, now he ain't no more, man. Wow. And I guess I gotta mention Roy Lee. Now I done talked about everybody else. So, Roy Lee, he's another one, man. A lot of sold out. I wish I knew him. I didn't really, I never got a chance to like him. I didn't get to meet him, but I heard so many stories and I seen him because I watched him when him and boosting him had a big thing, man. So, I think he said, hold on. And so, you know, it's just a trip, man. So, we gonna let it down, cos we just arrived. I don't know, man, I appreciate it, man. We love you, man. Man, I appreciate it, man. Man, my boy, Pat Pimper, the building, y'all, man. It went down, man. Hey, holla at you, boy. It's the unique hustle. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101, where the bosses talk.