 the Lakers finally did it. Okay, so they're one in five, but at least they're in good company with the Nets. It's time to run it back. Happy Halloween morning. It is a Monday morning, bright and early. And as always, I'm joined by stadium insider, Shamsherania. Why everyone's in black. Chandler Parsons is here. Eddie Gonzalez is here, who I am starting to respect your basketball game, sir. Now I have to watch you on the internet every Sunday. But yeah, what's the deal with the black? Was I supposed to wear black today? Is this Halloween? Festive. So festive. I know I'm a little disappointed. None of us are in costume, but that's all right. We'll do it next time. But I do want to get things started off because, I mean, the Lakers celebrated. They celebrated like they won the finals. They finally win one. Shams is this sustainable? I think there is some level of sustainability because Russell Westbrook, the way he's played coming off the bench, the last two games, I think is a positive factor. Like he played really well last night. Defensively. He had a couple blocks to get some steals, some great passes. Like this is a level of play from Russell Westbrook. We haven't seen with him in the starting lineups. I don't know if it's the chip on his shoulder. I don't know. Clearly I think there's a better approach and a better role for him coming off the bench. And they as a team shot a 42% from three point range made 13 threes. So anytime this Lakers team is going to make double digit three pointers, obviously that is a positive sign as well. But when the Lakers last week decided to start Austin Reeves, that was the beginning of really the start of Russell Westbrook having a full-time role coming off the bench. This is going to be his role for the remainder of this Lakers season barring injury. And most likely going to be his role if he ends up on another team, either this season or moving forward. Oh, all right. Chandler, what do you think? Yeah, I think he hit it with Russ coming off the bench. I think they found something there. And I think last night he kind of embraced that role. He had the highest plus minus on the team. He was getting the crowd involved. And as easy as it is to hate on Russ as a sports fan, you got to love that. You love when the Lakers are winning. I love seeing that for Russ him happy and energized. And let's face it, last night, they hit shots. They haven't hit shots like that all year long. I think they had five guys that had multiple threes. You could tell early on in the game, LeBron especially was determined. He was getting to the paint. He was driving hard. They were only taking wide open threes. As the game went on, they ended up kind of settling a little bit. But they hit shots and that's going to help. And that kind of shows the potential that they have when they can't do this. It just hasn't been the norm. And AD's back is obviously going to be a factor going forward because he was clearly reminiscing late there. But look, I think this is a step in the right direction for a team that's struggling mightily. And I don't think anyone thought they're going to go 0-82. But this was definitely a step in the right direction. And I'm happy for us. Yeah, you can see the team, they're supposed to be. They won the rebounding battle. They didn't turn the ball over. They overcame a slow start from LeBron. And with Russ being what he was yesterday, and again, he wasn't MVP superstar Russ, but he was able to run the offense. He was able to set guys up. You're able to let LeBron be a more secondary option, even though he ended leading the team a score in 26 points. This is the team they have to be if they want to win games. And then the most obvious, yeah, they hit the most threes they hit all season. 13 isn't even an astronomical amount of threes, but making 43% of them is huge. So they just did all the right things, like Chandler said, they weren't going to go 0-82. But this is a step in the right direction. And shout out to Darvin Ham. Got his first win as a coach. That was, I think that was the part of the celebration that was cool to see. But there's still one in five. There's still the chance that at any given moment, the dysfunction just seeps right back in. Are we worried about that at all? And do we think Westbrook has fully accepted like, you know what, this actually is not a bad thing to come off the bench. And this is a place in which I could prosper now. Chandler, do you think he's digested that and has processed it completely? No, not completely. I don't think he's the type to ever swallow that pill. I think he had a good game. And I think he can try and build off this. And look, I think he wants out of there just as much as they want him out of there. So the better he plays and the better they play, the higher his values going up. And that's just going to work mutually for both of them. But as it reminds me of the mellow situation, he's cut from the same cloth. I don't think he thinks he's a bench player in his head. I don't think he wants to be a bench player. I think he sees the success he had last night. And I think he's going to run with it. But I don't think he's, I don't think it's still what he wants. I still think he's hoping to start after he gets traded or moved. But like we all just said, I think this is a step in the right direction. And if they can hit shots like this, yeah, they're going to win some games. I mean, I'm just curious from a perspective of from Chandler's mindset, like coming off the bench after being a starter and a guy that's, that's played the role, especially Russell's played, Chandler played throughout his career as well. Like starting game versus coming off the bench, it's definitely a mental shift. Carmelo Anthony went through it. And then he, it took him really a year, two years to fully adjust to coming off the bench. I do think though, when I talked to teams around the league, they view Russell Westbrook as a guy that's going to have to be a spark plug bench player, a six man. Otherwise there's not, there might not be a role for him. So I'm curious how this plays out over the next several weeks and months as far as if Russell Westbrook ends up not embracing this, this could, like Michelle said, have another impact on the Lakers season. Yeah. And listen, as a player, as a player, you want to start, right? You want to be the guy, you want to be one of the guys in the starting lineup. But I think it's more important to finish games. If guys can understand that, that's when games are, you know, are coming down to the wire. That's when I want to be on the court. And Kevin McHale taught me that early. It's not who starts and who finishes. And I've always had that mindset where I'd rather be in the game when this game is on the line and have a chance to kind of, you know, do something special than start the game and play 10, 12 minutes. Like you see some of these guys do. So I think it's definitely an adjustment. You got to get your body ready. You see guys now a lot in the tunnel riding the bike. Mentally, you got to be prepared to check in versus at the jump ball. So there's different small adjustments. But to me, I'd rather be in at the end of the game when it matters. I always thought that's what made sense is that who cares about starting as long as you're in there when it counts. But I'm assuming it's an ego thing. You want to be starting because that just implies greatness, I suppose. But this is not a good segue by using the word greatness. And I'm sorry, Eddie, but we have to talk next next because they're one in five. They've lost four straight. There's so much going on at all times. Shams, I have to start with you. If you could put your finger on what the biggest issue with this team is right now, what would you say? Well, I think there are a few issues, several, for sure. I think the biggest is they're just not a good defensive team. They're the worst defensive team in the league. They have the worst, by far the worst defensive rating across the entire NBA of all 30 teams. They're, they're lasting defensive rebounds per game. So anytime you're not defending and you're not rebounding, you're not going to put yourself in a position to win games. No matter how well your offense plays, Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, they brought it offensively throughout the seasons, but they are just missing it, you know, totally defensively. So I don't know if that's, is that coaching, is that personnel, is that, you know, not following the proper game plans. And at the end of the day, Ben Simmons has yet to score double digit points this season. That's a problem. And the energy, I think, is for sure missing throughout this roster right now from a defensive perspective. Jayler. Yeah. I mean, he had it. They have zero defensive presence. They don't play hard. You're seeing the Pacers the other night just doing all the little things, getting to the loose balls, taking charges, diving on the floor. They're playing with a purpose. The Nets just kind of throw the ball out there. They hope their two stars are going to, are going to get 40 and that's going to, that's going to get them wins. And it's confusing because they're starting a defensive team with Ben Simmons and Roy Sonio, they're throwing Duke in there. I don't know if it's effort, if it's defensive schemes, what it is, but yeah, they're thin up front. They have no size and they just can't get stops and they're expecting Kyrie and KD just to carry them through. And I wish I could say, oh, like Seth Curry is coming back. It's sure it's going to help, but I don't think it's going to kind of be the answer. And let's talk about Kyrie, obviously with like, you know, there's has to be some sort of Kyrie distraction too to pile on all their other issues right now. So Eddie, maybe you know more than I do, but that type of stuff definitely is not helping. Yeah. I mean, they have many issues. I think defense is key there. They're starting to overline up that they want to be a defensive team, but Ben hasn't been great at the point of attack. They haven't protected the rim well. They don't rebound well. And it all just cascades them to a million different things. On top of that, their offense is incredibly stagnant. And if you look at it, it's personnel. They have to try out two non shooters at multiple times. Even when they shift to, okay, we'll play Ben at center, though still try out guys who aren't necessarily shooters as well, because they have to keep up somehow defensively. They give up 23 threes to the Pacers the other night and they shot 50% on them. And that was with the heave and with Buddy Hill throwing one up at the end of the game, just to be shot clock. There's many issues on the court, the stuff off the court. I mean, Chandler, maybe you know, we mean we'll talk about it with Kyrie, but I don't know how distracting it is to be asked these questions. I've never been there. Do you get on the court? You just tune it all out. You're cool. Or this is a real thing that weighs on you as a team. I mean, listen, it's that's not the reason why you're missing shots or missing defensive assignments, right? You can easily point to that and use that as an excuse. I just think for the locker room, for the morale, for the chemistry, it's just another distraction on top of their on court issues that just is not helping in the long run. But no, that's not a reason why Ben Simmons isn't scoring 10 points or more. Like it has nothing to do with it. You know what? I want to stick with the Kyrie thing because yes, obviously we're all aware of the latest drama that surrounds him. It always seems to be something. And I know there are different responses. I think the post had an article this morning, basically calling for him to be cut that it was time and we don't want to deal with it anymore. That kind of an attitude, guys. What do you think the options actually are as far as Kyrie Irving is concerned? What can be done or what should be done? I don't know. Who wants to start this one, by the way? Take it away. Yeah. There's not, I mean, to wave Kyrie Irving, that's not a route. I expect this to go. Now, the whole prospect of him coming back to the team this year was for him to play well and hopefully the team playing well and eventually going far. This latest situation, of course, I think it has to give some level of you have to think about the future. What are the next steps? But at the end of the day, this team is one in five. They need him to play well. And in order to win out, the team is not doing well. Do you look at the trade market? I mean, that's got to be something that's on their minds. But right now, there's not really a clarity as far as next steps. The tweet was taken down last night. But there's clear issues on the steam. When you look at the Ben Simmons situation, I think that there was leeway for him in Philadelphia as number one overall pick. And now in Brooklyn, there are just these heightened expectations. This is a big season for Brooklyn. They wanted to win a championship. And if things don't go well over the next few games, the next few weeks, you have to unpack not only, you know, Kyrie Irving's future, but this entire team's future. If you look at the way this franchise has built itself in the last half decade, they're here to win titles. They're here to win games. They're here to be a marquee attraction in one of the biggest cities in the world. They loaded themselves up with three superstars. And even when they had the trade went away, they traded for a number one overall pick. Like Sam said, they traded for somebody who they thought was an all star. They don't want to blow it up. They had ample opportunity to do that this summer. They had escape routes everywhere with Kyrie, with Kevin. I'm imagining even with Ben, if they wanted to get off that at some point, they chose to push forward stubbornly, maybe so. And now we're seeing some of the issues that could arise. They could play through it. They can be better, but you're asking for a lot. This is an older team as well. They don't look athletic, which is a big part of why their defense isn't so great. They're trotting out a bunch of 30 plus guys. And even the guys that are younger, like Ben, he's not especially athletic as he's starting to recover himself. They're in a really tough bond. Like you hate to say, you know, one in five, it's Halloween. The season just started. It's do or die, make or break. But they're in a tough situation with the way they built this team and the things they did this summer to try to hold on to what they have. We'll see how they rally the troops. It's got to be fascinating in the locker room. At some point, the players, I wish you could give them true serum because it can't be fun. And it's got to be irritating. And it's always something and we can move on now because we've got some serious news in the NBA. The Warriors are under 500. They host Miami tomorrow, another team that's not living up to expectations. Are we worried about this Golden State team Chandler? Again, I am not. I think this is, you know, there's methods to curse madness. And I think he's throwing these young guys in the fire early. He's getting them valuable experience. We've said this before, but I think he's willing to take some losses now in October to get guys like Moody and Kaminga and Wiseman, these guys in-game valuable reps that's going to pay off for them later in the season in the playoffs. So do you want to lose to Charlotte and Detroit back to back? Never. But I don't, I don't think this is, you know, hit the panic button. Draymond and Clay are different players. I don't, I don't think so. I think this is just them working their younger guys in. Yeah, they've won four titles in nine seasons. I'm, I'm not going to concern myself with this team till like May. May seems like a good time to worry about it. Yeah, I want to, there's a team that's been, actually, there are a few teams right now that I think are surprising people, which is fun. I think as a fan, but Cavs, when they finished the season last year and we thought, okay, this could be a fun team to watch, just keep our eye on it. And then they add Donovan Mitchell and now they're dominating. He's 30 points in what five of last six games. Do we think that this Cavs team has enough to really compete with some of the elites in the Eastern Conference? Eddie, you want to start? Yeah. I mean, I think if you're going to get this Donovan Mitchell, yeah. And we've yet to see them with Derris Garland. He only played in the first game and he got hurt. But he's proven himself as a big playoff performer. The Ray, the roster is set up, it's set up for playoff basketball. Chandler, you know, we all know in the playoffs, it comes down to, you know, can you guard this guy? We're going to do everything we can to get our guys in their spaces. And can you do that? And Donovan is one of the best ISO scores in the league. And Garland is building himself into that. And with the athletic front line and all the shooting they surround those two guys with, they're a dark horse in the east for sure. And if they can remain healthy while some of these older teams have to deal with all of that, you never know what we could see. I saw 30 and 10 from Donovan Mitchell last night. And there were points in the last couple of years where the Jazz thought about making Donovan Mitchell their full-time point guard because they felt like he would play better on the ball, have more sis play make. He had that ability. He could really be like a James Harden for them. So they toyed around with that idea. And I think at times it was successful, but we've seen with Darius Garland out basically all season so far. They've played Donovan Mitchell primarily at the point and he's played at a great level. The team is looking good. So there's no question. They have the firepower. They have the depth to do it, to be competitive in the Eastern Conference playoffs. But I want to see this team with Darius Garland. I want to see this team with his creativity. How does he coexist with Donovan Mitchell? Because that was definitely a big question going into this cap season. Yeah, this reminds me a lot of last year when Sexton went down and kind of Garland took that jump. And I think it's actually going to pay off for Donovan. New team, new city, new system. He's had these last couple of games without Garland to kind of get his feet wet, get comfortable. So I agree. Once Garland comes back, it'll be interesting to see those two guys coexist, who runs point, who looks to score on any given night. But honestly, shout out JB Bickerstaff, man. He's my favorite coach I ever had. I talked to him last night and he just said these guys are having fun. They're sacrificing, they're playing unselfish. And you can watch them play. They're giving up the open shot for a more open shot. They're getting the crowd involved. It's packed. It looks like it's fun in Cleveland right now. And they have a young, deep team. Guys like Dean Wade and Kevin Love, like these guys are, are factors and it makes me so happy for JB because he's an awesome dude. He's one of those coaches that you want to play hard for. You want to win for. He's relatable. He's one of the guys and he's brilliant. X's and O's and defensively. So I, I definitely like them. And man, Donovan Mitchell, he's better than advertised. He's going. You know, Kevin Love is a great point and it's something I want to touch on as well. Looking at his old AAU buddy, his old UCLA buddy, Russ, this is kind of the role he could embrace. Kevin Love hit eight threes last night. He's a champion. He's played among his games at this franchise. He's the longest tenured calf and he accepted a six man role off the bench. It's only helped that team. Him, him providing that spacing. He's in there late in games. He's finishing games with them in the right matchups. They're a deep team. I think they played 12 guys yesterday and that's without Barlin. So there's a lot to love about this team. As they continue to get better throughout the season as well, build continuity. I am curious about the kind of distributing the ball handling duties between the two guys. But I think it'll help Donovan to be able to be a secondary ball handler at certain points in games and then to finish it with the ball in his hand. Yeah, they're going to float under the radar as well with all the things going on on the East. The teams that are at the top, the Bucks are undefeated. Celtics just went to the finals. The Nets are with the Nets are. They got a really good chance to get into the top three, have some home court. And yeah, you get the right matchups. They can be in the conference finals this year for sure. And they do play at Boston on Wednesday. So that's a must-see game. And who would have thought we'd be saying that a couple of years ago about Cleveland? I kind of love it. The Jazz, it's another team that is out playing all expectations sitting at five and two. They're at Memphis tonight. We started the season almost mockingly talking about who would tank and who wouldn't. And I thought that this was a team that was in that category. But no one told them. No one told Lori Markinon. Can this continue? Should it continue? I mean, that's, I guess that's the question as well. But it's fun for Jazz fans. But do we think Markinon's legit? Is this sustainable as well? Eddie? Yeah, I mean, this guy was a lottery pick. This was somebody who was prepared to be a franchise cornerstone and two different franchises. He's a talented, near seven footer. He can shoot. He can do a bunch of different things on offense. People have always worried about his defense. But when he played in Cleveland and they unveiled that massive lineup, he held his own. He held his own out there as well. So he has an opportunity to really thrive and be the centerpiece of this team as Colin Sexton kind of figures out his role here. I love what he's doing. And I think he can keep it up. He's pushed up on 20 points again before in his career. And this might be the year he gets there. Yeah, listen, I think it's fun. I think he's playing really good. I don't see it. I fully think they're going to be in the lottery competing for Victor here in June. They traded their top three players to lose. I think their front office is probably scratching their head. I think, like I said, it's fun for the crowd. It's fun for the fans. They're playing hard. Jordan Clarkson's ball and Lori's ball. But I think they come back down to earth here eventually. And like we said, there's a couple of teams like this that are winning games when I don't think they're really supposed to be and trying to. It's interesting, but the Jazz are definitely one of those teams. You kind of have this battle of philosophies where it's like, hey, do we push? Are we a good enough team to win 45 games? Do we have some good stuff going on here? Or do we pull out eventually? They have a bunch of tradable pieces, bunch of pieces that veteran teams will want. Rudy Gaye's right there. Mike Connelly's right there on expiring deals as well. Even Jordan Clarkson, who I think they like and who likes it there, and they may want to, Shams are no better. They may want to keep him long term, but they have pieces that they can send out if they decide like, okay, it was fun. It was a good ride. Let's do what we really came here to do and jump shit a little bit. Yeah. Listen, it's early. We can be looking at them in a month and they could be five and 18. Like who knows? I mean, I don't think they can sustain a top four. But listen, only five teams don't make the playoffs now, so who knows? That's true. That is true, but that is the gamble, isn't it? Like what's the point of making it knowing you're going to get wiped out? But for now it's fun. I think it's all part of the smart tank. You can say you tried at the beginning of the season and then things just got weird, not our fault. Coming up next, we've got updates on Lillard, Brandon Ingram, and we've got the first ever and that man has a family. Some dude got posterized, but also posterized someone else. How does that work? Run it back. Next. Oh, wow. Happy Halloween weekend. My tribute to an icon. There you go. It's Halloween. I love it. This is one of my favorite holidays. I'm not sure why we're not dressed, but it's time now, Shams, for you to give us a scoop. And I know you've got a lot of updates, so let's get to them. So Damien Lillard will miss one to two weeks. So he's going to miss Wednesday's game against the Grizzlies. And he's going to be re-evaluated either later this week or next week. So he's going to be out for multiple games here. The hope is that he's going to be back on this next Portland road trip, which goes from this Friday to November 12th. Brandon Ingram for the Pelicans. He remains out with a concussion. I'm told that the team, when he suffered the concussion last week, the team was bracing for him to be out at least two to three weeks. So we'll see just exactly when he'll be back. But with the concussion protocol, you just never know. It could be really at any time, but the Pelicans will be without him. Herb Jones still is out. Zion Williamson came back yesterday in LA. Oh, he came back in a big way. That was a good win. The story of the weekend, and I know our thread was blowing up, of course, was the release, the sudden release of Josh Primo in San Antonio. Do you have any updates on that? Like you said, Michel, just a stunning release. This guy was 19 years old. He was propped up to be one of the faces of the Spurs rebuild in a cornerstone for the franchise. They had high hopes for him when they drafted him with the number 12 pick. He's a guy that can score, play well. There are still teams. I'm told at least one or two teams were seriously contemplating claiming him on waivers. He's on waivers throughout today and until 5 p.m. Eastern time. We'll see if someone claims him. But I'm told the Spurs female employee, a former employee, alleged that he exposed himself to her. She has hired Tony Busby, the lead attorney for the two dozen women who alleged sexual misconduct against NFL quarterback Deshaun Watson. We'll see where this situation goes and potential lawsuits here down the line for Josh Primo. But he was waived and we'll see if he's claimed today. I mean, realistically, someone could. Do you guys think a team takes a chance on Primo after all of this? And there's a lot of unknown as well. We don't know what else is coming out. What do you guys think, Chandler? Is there a shot? I mean, I think we have to wait for all the details and for the story to develop. But I mean, it'd be tough. Listen, there's zero tolerance for this type of behavior within a locker room or really anywhere in the world. This is completely unacceptable. And kudos to the Spurs because they just showed, you know, I don't care. We're tanking. We're rebuilding. And this kid is a lottery pick last year. It's unheard of to waive this guy. And they did because, you know, there's there's women that are working in every single franchise that shouldn't be going there in fear or stressed or anything like that to have to avoid a player or situation like this. It's just not fair. It's gross. And I'm glad that the Spurs, you know, did what they did because it's unacceptable. And obviously we have to wait for the story to develop. But I feel for the kid because he's got he's supposed to have a hell of a career in the future. But man, man, this is something that there's zero tolerance now. And it's unacceptable. Yeah, could a team playing him? I trust Shoms Intel. Yeah, of course, I don't think they will. There's just too much at stake. They have to understand what they're getting into. They have to understand the situation as it happened. And there probably wasn't enough time to do that due diligence anyway. So yeah, I imagine we're not going to see him on the court for some time, similarly to the Miles Bridges situation. Does he resume his career eventually down the line? 19 ton of potential? Probably. But as of right now, yeah, I don't think we'll see him for some time. Yeah, that story is going to go on for quite some time. Shoms will be on it. Shoms, I know we're going to let you go and thank you, but you're a very serious old soul. Do you still get dressed up for Halloween? The last time I got dressed up was probably three, four years ago. So it was fairly recent, but hopefully we can do a run it back, you know, a dress up maybe next year. I'm just Yeah, I'm on the road. It's my fault. I normally would be dressed up, but I have to know four years ago. What was your costume? I think it was like Spider-Man. I was a big Spider-Man fan growing up. Like I think I dressed as Batman. Shout out Grant Williams being Batman. In the press conference, that was amazing to watch. Like he had the deep voice knocked my thing like perfectly. Of course, we're going to have that later because it's probably one of my favorite things from the entire weekend. Shoms, thank you and go get us more intel. Bring us more updates. Guys, you're sticking around because it's time for that man has a family. We got a lot. We got a lot today and I'm excited about all of it. How about, man, my spurs right here, Pertle just never seems to be on the winning end of one of these videos and no difference today. No, well with the dog. Come on. This one was crazy too because he cocked it to the left. Usually you see the cock for them right or straight back. He went oppo here with the left. That's nasty. Yo, shout out to Pertle for giving this an attempt, but he had no shot. That is insane right there. The two hand, the two hand boom on you is, that's got to feel painful. Like, you know, you don't even need to get the extension. No, well have you have no fear of someone blocking your shot if you go at them two handed. Exactly. That's why, Eddie, I appreciate you shouting out Pertle, but for me, it's already, we're starting with a complete lack of disrespect or respect because that's, if you're starting with two hands, he doesn't care that he's there. Oh man. That's a warm up. Like he's just thinking I'm going about my deal right here. It's fine. Disrespectful. Come on, Pertle. Be better. All right. Talyn, Horton, Tucker, THT. Do we love it? They do. Let's see here. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah, I don't need it. I mean, he got the greatest, not the greatest block attempt there ever. Well, yeah. Again, again, these shot blockers are, they're delusional. They have no chance of getting to these, it's almost like a false hustle where it's, you know, instead of getting ripped in the film room the next day, at least he can say he tried. But yeah, he had no chance either. What a terrible angle to take too. Like what is, what is the idea there? Shout out to Talyn out there making it work, man. I love there's so many of these this time. What are you going to do? We have a, we have a little former college teammate on teammate crime, Matheryn with the steal from Terry seems personal to me guys. Yeah. I mean, this was weird. The game's clearly over. This is like, this is a situation that you don't really see off. This kid's a rookie. He's playing for his dad. This kid's playing for rookie of the year. Honestly, I like what he was saying at the line. The game's not over and pointing to the clock. Had there still time left. True. But yeah, this is a little bush. I like the heartfelt, honestly. I would have probably given a harder foul than that. I mean, the crowd for what it's worth and loudly. I'm a guy who, who hates the old baseball unspoken rules. I love that business in basketball. Like, don't, we beat you. Stop this. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, this is definitely an, like, you don't do this. They're clearly just dribbling the ball out. That's, that's bush like, I, you know, the honest doesn't do it. When he talks to Mac, like that, when he does that basically, Simmons, you're too small. You have to love it. It's, it's this only attempt at being a villain. What do you think about this one? I mean, and fairness, everyone's too small to guard this dude right now. So if you've been Simmons, you cannot even take this personal because nobody, but also this celebration has gotten out of hand. You'll see Patrick Beverly hit a floater and do the, and do that. Well, it's Patrick Beverly. This is getting out of hand. And this honestly wasn't even that like, bully of the mood, but you could just, yeah, there's some, Yannis was in the middle. Yannis was in the middle of 40 points. He just had to let him know, I guess. I like Kevin's rendition better. The little, like the fingers, like teeny, I like that. But I'm shocked that didn't catch on more. But yeah, this is, I don't know. I don't know if this needed a celly. This is just a little, you know, you know what? He's at home. He's not doing that anywhere else. But at home, I feel like you get away with it. How about Christian Brown? Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Okay. I love this guy. I love this guy, by the way. He's just, just came here to play defense. Like I'm in the NBA now. I'm here to defend. It's fine. He won defense player here in college. All this good stuff. It's like, yeah, I'm here to clamp up. What do we do? They had this man guarding LeBron James last night. I mean, no fear. Yeah, no fear. And I like this too, because he easily could have got poked on right here. But like, like I just said, he has no fear. He came over. I don't even think, who is that going? I don't even think he was trying to dunk that. But yeah, that's a nice weak side coming over. He's late to get there. But that's a great block. Yeah, I like that one. Christian Brown like doesn't look like he can do any of this stuff. Like, let's be honest. If I seen him. What are you trying to say right now? Is he skinny? That's all. Not all white guys are so steady. Thank you. Thank you, Jalen. How about Donovan Mitchell? This is, this might be my favorite. Yeah, this is a lot. He's one of my favorite dunkers in the league, because he looks like he's small, but he has the longest arms. Oh, and you can do it. Yeah. And he dunked so angry. Like, he don't get violent. Look at that. Those two foot jumpers, they're just mean. Like they're just, they're just evil to people when they get on. That's tough. And honestly, Coronet deserves this after the closeout he did on the three point shooter as well. I mean, he is. And then when he lands and you see the size discrepancy, it's even more insulting. Yeah. That is so good. But we could be a hero one second and a chump the next because Jalen Brown. Just like that. There was a moment there on the break right here. He knew he was in trouble. I mean, he's in his face. Yeah, there's nothing you can do either. You're going to get screamed at. What are you going to push him? Like there's absolutely nothing he can do at that point. He just walks off like, you know, I've been there. I've been that guy. I get it. Don't make eye contact. It is what it is. I had a minute. Oh, that's so good. We have, when we come back, we got to talk a little NBA player who would make the best NFL guy. And then also it's time to talk candy corn. It's that time of year when running back continues. Oh, I got one thing to say. So, you know, it hurts when, you know, someone like Charles Barkley with the platform he has says you're not the same player prior to the injuries you have. It's like, no dumb man consecutive years. I told my ACL my Achilles in consecutive years and still help a team win a championship. I mean, it hurt hearing that. The no duh is highly underused and I'm glad he did. And you could tell his feelings are actually hurt. Of course, that's Clay Thompson responding to Barkley when he said he wasn't the same guy and that he was close slipping. It's such a moment of vulnerability, it seems, Chandler. What did you think when you saw that from Clay? Insecure. Like, why are you paying attention to this? Listen, Charles Barkley, he's media just like we are just like I am right now. We're asked to speak on a topic and we speak on it. I don't think Charles, you know, said he needs to retire or he's horrible. He didn't even say he didn't help him win the championship last year. Clay Thompson in the last couple of years has been one of the best two-way players and the top 10 player. And right now, he's not. And I think it's just, as Clay Thompson, like, come on, man, you're the second best shooter of all time. You're a four-time NBA champ. Stop, stop paying attention to, you know, Ronnie 2K's rating of you and Charles Barkley saying they're not the same. Like, you have this championship DNA and leadership and it just, it kind of boggles my mind that he even allows this to get to him. Because as someone that's been there and I've been hurt and you do listen to all these things, it sucks. But you know it's true though, too. Like, you know you're a step slow and no, an ACL is hard enough, let alone on top of an Achilles. So I just think it's, it's, it's kind of petty to even pay attention. I think he, you know, it's like, what are we doing? Who cares what these guys' opinions are? You're Clay Thompson. Like, if it's really fuel your fire, you don't have to say it's fuel your fire. Just use that for motivation and continue to play. Part of me was shocked that, part of me was shocked that he gave this the time of day. I mean, the players, especially older players, they seem to just have a weird dynamic with the guys on that show anyway, Chuck and Shaq and the negativity they come with. And like, their whole stick is that we're better than all you guys and it was tougher and we punched people like that time. So I was kind of shocked that we play do this, but the Warriors kind of have done this over their run. Like they've picked that the media and complained and just didn't like being criticized. And I mean, I guess, I guess that's their thing, but just want to title Clay. Clay started the thing off with saying, yeah, he's right. But why say it or whatever? Like, that was, he agreed with him and then still stated how it still pissed him off. Well, couldn't that be then we could just read it as, I mean, look, it's not, it's not a response to a Ronnie 2k or some random troll. It's Charles Barkley. And it seemed as though his feelings were actually heard. It wasn't that he lashed out. It said his feelings were hurt. I mean, we can all relate to that our feelings are hurt. Maybe we don't say it out loud the way he did. But I appreciate that. Right. I mean, we have, we all have feelings. But Chandler, you're like, no, don't say anything. I'm a little bit surprised. I mean, listen, like it's part of it. It's part of the game. There's love. There's hate. There's criticism. This is, these guys are, these guys are making a lot of money, millions of dollars to criticize and to give their opinion. So it's like at the end of the day, yeah, it's, it's obnoxious. It's annoying. It hurts to hear your peers talk to you in that light. But like I said, at the end of the day, you're Clay Thompson, man, you're competing for a fifth championship. Who cares if this guy thinks you're wash proven wrong by playing better and win another one? Fair enough. Okay. Fair enough. Moving on. We've got a, we got CBA talk. I know it's the sexy stuff, but this time it's interesting because the league's playing with the idea of possibly having a hard cap. And in not shocking news, the players are like, absolutely not. It's a non starter. Do you guys see a world or would you want to see a world where perhaps it would add a little parity to the league if there was a hard cap? Eddie, what do you think? I personally don't want to see it. I mean, parity sounds cool, but we've never had parity in this league. There's always been mega stars. There's always been super teams. There's always been teams that just seem to be a step up ahead of everybody else. But that's also what makes it exciting. We show up and we root against the heat. We root against the Warriors, root against the Lakers, and we need to see them lose to somebody. And then we get the pistons. We get the spurs. We get these teams that are exciting in that sense. I don't think it ever happened. Like I don't see the players agreeing to this. I don't see the CBA. I don't see the owners agreeing to this as a whole. So plus I'm like, isn't there a cap now? Isn't there a hard cap now? Like am I, do I not understand the economics of this entire situation? So soft cap as it's called. Yeah. No, you're right. I'm with you on it. Sometimes the legalese and the minutiae gets a little bit much chiller. I mean, you're a former player. There's no way you'd vote for this, right? No. And I think there'd be a lockout before something like this would ever happen. I think this is the owners swinging for the fences. You know, they're tired of seeing teams like the Warriors and the Clippers that are going in the luxury tax and paying this premium. But they all can do it. Everybody can do it. These owners are billionaires that make so much money. Players aren't going to go for this. Like I said, I guarantee you there will be a lockout before something like this were to happen. I could see that. And nobody wants to put a limit on what they can possibly make. Moving on to Dennis Smith Jr., who of course with the Hornets has a non-guaranteed contract, but has been starting in place of Lamella Ball, but he was asked, you know, sort of, he's moved around a bunch. You know, number nine pick in 2017, wasn't sure if he'd be able to get back in the league, didn't want to go overseas. And so talked about he had put on a bunch of weight because he was thinking about trying out for the NFL, perhaps making a run at doing that, which is crazy to think about. But then you think, oh, what other NBA players would make good NFL guys? And then, you know, we know LeBron has a history, could have done it, I guess. Eddie, can you think of anyone else that could possibly play in that league? My guy is Zion. Zion is absolutely be rushing the quarterback and tackling Tom Brady and Kyler Murray right now. He is an insane athlete at that size. And he wants the game away. So it's like, let's let him be 280 and push Lyman around and tackle quarterback. I think it would be him. Also shout out to Dennis Smith for just having a great season and making his way back. I love that story. It's a great story. It's almost a movie and it could be and maybe it will be. Chandler, who you thinking? Yeah, I think it'd be a guy who are the most athletic guys in the world. I think I would see football in the NFL as a whole another animal. Listen, I'm tall. I'm strong. I could move back in the day. I don't like to get hit. I don't like contact. I couldn't play in the NFL. But you look at guys like Jimmy Butler to me would be an unbelievable NFL player. I think you could pick three or four guys in the NBA that can move laterally, vertically or strong, you know, are tall. Like I said, I think there I think there's multiple guys that could kind of transition over. But if they have that toughness and willingness that I clearly do not know the hitting, I think would be problem for most because they don't like it in the NBA. And it's a different kind of hit in the NFL. So I don't know. But I wish there was a parallel universe, bizarre world where we could find this out. Guys, it's time for you to play a little more trial. Put your hands on. It's convince me. I'm going to give you a premise, Eddie. Okay, ready? Convince me that the Lakers will still make the playoffs. Look, the easy escape route here is to say that there's only 10 playoff teams or there is 10 playoff teams. So they got a chance there. But I do think they saw some remnants of what they can be yesterday and that they're going to make shots. The thing for me is they're waiting for Thomas Bryant and Dennis Schroeder to come back from injury and they're actually helpful pieces. Thomas obviously in the in the in the paint, but he also gets pop out and hit a three. He's a big guy. A lot of people are excited to see play with LeBron and Russ. So I think when they have their full team, it will be closer to mediocre. And that'll be enough. So yes, there you go. I don't know if that was with your chest, but we'll see. Chandler convinced me that someone other than Paulo Banker will win rookie of the year. Yeah, that's tough because this kid's putting up crazy numbers and the magic are really, really bad. I think the only two that would have a chance would be Matheran and Keegan Murray. I think Matheran has the best chance and the best chance he would have is if this buddy healed Miles Turner trade would happen. Matheran is doing what he's doing after 21, 5 to whatever it is coming off the bench playing like 26, 27 minutes a game. You put him into a starting role with more opportunity. And they happen to sneak into one of those top 10 seeds. I think he has a chance. And I think we can all agree that the magic are going to be one of the top 10 teams are not going to make the playoffs. And a team like Sacramento Keegan Murray that they have the playoff push and he keeps putting up, you know, 18, 5 and 3 and Matheran. I think these guys are key players on better teams that have a chance to, you know, to get to the playoffs or at least to play in. So it's tough one. But I think those two guys are the only hope to take it away from him. There's a shot. Eddie, this one convinced me that candy corn is the best Halloween candy. How did I get set up for this one? I can't do it. Not in a world where you can go to people's house and they'll give you Reese's peanut butter cups. Can I say anything better than that? I'd rather get like the guy that gives you a bag of popcorn and a little hand glove thing. You're supposed to tell me it's great. You're supposed to convince us somehow that it's little pieces of plastic are delicious. Candy corn at the bottom of the bucket. And then I'm doing like this. So it goes to the trash. There's I'm sorry. I can't all spirit of the game here. I just can't. There's no way. That's fair. And you know what? He's removing himself. I don't blame you. It doesn't have like an expiration date. I don't trust that. That's nasty. Coming up next, we're sticking with the Halloween theme. We got Batman in Boston, Tatum's the Joker. It's a Halloween themed fit or brick. Next, I'm running back. Best part about his team is that we take him. Oh, Jason Tatum is confused by Grant Williams. That is, wow, that is devotion to the character guys. Grant Williams is Batman. Perfect, right? There's nothing bad to say about it. Yeah, that's the same reaction as JT. I had the same reaction as JT. What? The fact that he did the whole media interview in character. Yeah, that was impressive. That was so impressive. Super new fan right here. Yeah. So this is fit or brick and it's NBA fashion time. And you know what? If I could give it a thousand A pluses, I would. Do we agree? I mean, and he's in costume. He's owning Halloween. If they lost, does he still do the voice or does he just like put his clothes on and just do a step? Picture them losing and him leaving the arena dressed like that. I would love it so much. We take care of each other. It's so good. Never broke. He's better than some actors. And that's all I want to say about that. We had that laugh. It's so good. I love when people do Halloween costumes. Pascal Siakam, as I believe 50 cents. That's fire. I love that. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah. Got the chains like being rich on Halloween is way better than going to like the Halloween store and trying to figure it out. That's like he probably put the order in for this a month ago. I need to put the best in the game yet. Yeah, he got the best. This is a fit to me. He nailed this. Okay. All right. We got two fits, I think so far. Be careful with this next one, guys. It's Bobon with cat ears. What is it? He just got cat ears on. He's just a sexy cat. Like, you know, pretty girls do it. So why not Bobon? That's that's what Halloween is all about, isn't it? I mean, this dude is impossible to hate on, but this is this is a brick. This is no effort. This is lazy. Fair. I've been trying to say he just grabbed those off someone's desk when he got there, because he didn't have a costume. I see Bobon and John Wick in his hands is probably about big as my torso. I'm going to call it a fit out of the sphere. Like I don't know. He crushed John Wick. He crushed that scene. Yeah. And also in fairness, like, where's he going to get a costume? Okay. This is Jordan Clarkson as Edward Scissorhands. Yeah, that's wow. There was some help here. Like this required like makeup, you know, this, this was detailed. This was thought out. This is this is really, really good. And there's two of them. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, Chandler, did you do did you do the duo's costume? Did you do that before that? Yeah, you know, me and my girl were Drago and Khaleesi last year, which was pretty fire. I'm going to dig that out. Yeah, yeah, I'll find a pick of that. That was pretty good. But this is this is really good, man. And I think I saw the side by side of the real pic. It's right. It's fire. It's it looks like the original Johnny Depp costume. And look, you just you said it, Eddie, being rich on Halloween is great because for all we know, that is the original. It's the best part of being rich on how although I will say this, some of the best Halloween costumes are those that make you think they're, they're like puns or riddles or something. I do love those. And ladies, we don't always have to do sexy versions of things. Sometimes just be frumpy, just own it. Come on. Parley guys, we don't have to go all through it because we're going to try to unjinx ourselves. But I know we have a four leg parley for the people to possibly make a little cage money tonight. This is what it is. Eddie and Chandler both have their two legs. I don't see events in men's. Yeah, so we're good. I think we could do this one. You bet 20 bucks. You win 207. It's a good shot. Happy Halloween to everybody for shops. Chandler, Eddie, be safe out there. Candy, corn's nasty. We'll see you guys tomorrow.