 I'm just going to start recording. Okay? I'm not sure what the movie is about. It's about a young girl. She goes on a wonderful Wonderland adventure where she meets a cute boy dragon, a friendly but gruff, at first, Spider-Man. Spider-Man? Yeah, this is like a spider, the guy that works the boiler. The big mustache. Yeah. This is for people who have seen it, so they know. I'm not really sure what the movie is about. I know that I liked it. I liked the movie. I was a little bit frustrated. I was frustrated in the beginning because I felt the parents were incredibly... That was probably the weakest part is just kind of how they set up. They're probably like, okay, we have this amazingly creative and original idea for like a kid's fairy tale thing. How do we just get her into the fairy tale world? The parents almost like by like a trance. They're just way too curious and they're like, oh, let's just go on this detour when really if we should try to figure out how to get to the house we're moving to. And they just, you know, they kind of keep going and then the kid's like, there's something off here but the parents don't pick up on it. That's probably the most kind of you know, forced thing in the movie. Once you get past that then, yeah, I think it's... you just end up really level with characters. I like that one really big spirit. Like almost a big mustache, kind of walrus tusks. Oh yeah. Yeah. Just a lot of great creatures and spirits and there's definitely themes of gluttony and greed in the movie where with the no-face once it starts to just devour the people working there but still offers all the gold and for a while the workers are okay with still feeding the monster because they're like, well, it's just passing out so much gold. Like, you know, this is kind of messed up and this could destroy us in the end but look how rich it could possibly make us, right? So there's things like that. Yeah, it's hard for me to say what the movie was about. I think there were all kinds of... like I think there was for the baby that was the son, the giant baby, the son of the grandmother, Granny that ran the bath house. You know, she is over-protecting him. She's keeping him in this germ-free zone under all the blankets and then eventually, when he gets transformed by the sister of the Granny and then eventually actually first is always just carried around by the fly but then at one point actually doesn't want to get carried and wants to go on its own and then at the end of the movie stands up to the grandmother after he's kind of experienced an adventure, went outside. Oh, it's actually... it's okay. Like, I don't need to be cooped up all the time. I can actually take care of myself and get out there and, you know, get that confidence. Things like that. Her relationship with No Face is... I don't know. I feel like... You're... I'm losing my train of thought now. I feel like the relationship with No Face was interesting. No Face himself was interesting. Looking at how he interacted with everybody else versus how he interacted with Chihiro, he... Obviously, he wanted love. He wanted companionship and he wasn't getting that. So he thought, well, if I give people stuff, then they're going to give me all of that. All of that. And so he thought, in order for me to get affection and love from people, I have to give... I have to give them stuff. Yeah. And so, yeah. And that's how people... Everybody else responded positively to that. It was working with everyone else. But... It also wasn't making No Face happy. It was eating, still eating, but none of this is working. I'm giving these things to people. They're giving me stuff back, but none of it is actually satisfying me. Yeah. So I think that speaks to transactional relationships, right? Where you... You... The relationship is just based on what am I getting from you? Yeah. What am I giving you? So if I give you something, you have to give me something back. Yeah. Which is awful. Yeah. And then... Trauma and numbing yourself. Yeah. So they're actually dealing with it or finding connection. Yeah. Like, let me finish my trade of thought. I'll forget. People who go into transactional relationships because they don't know how else to show love than to give people objects. If people don't receive those objects, then they feel like, well, you know, I'm not good enough. They feel things like that. But then they feel frustrated because then they don't know how else to show love. They don't know how to show love in a healthier way. And so they get frustrated because, well, if I don't give you this thing, then you're not going to then be indebted to me for giving you this thing. I want you to be indebted to me so you can come back and give me the love that I want. You know, that's what I think maybe two... What's his name? Noface. Noface gets back. But once befriends Chahiro as just a genuine friendship, can go back into a peaceful, normal form. Yeah. And... And it's genuine because Chahiro befriends him without asking for any kind of material objects. She accepts him as he is without asking for anything. And when you get that, that is really great when you're someone who's looking for affection. When you get that from someone, you start feeling like, oh, I'm good enough as I am. I don't have to draw people into my life or into having a relationship with me by giving them material stuff. I'm enough on my own. The thing about the grandmother, you know, she gets people to sign a contract where she basically indentured servitude and then she owns their name which is, I think, kind of a symbolism of just like part of the indentured servitude. You start to lose sense of your identity because you are just a cog or you're just part of her property or something and by controlling people by having their names, then once she's able to help her dragon friend, her dragon boy friend Haku find his name and then when she remembers her name then it's them trying to hold on to a piece of their self-worth and identity. Yeah, that's actually so interesting, honestly, because how the world system is like that, right? Isn't it? At the end of the day, you have to pander to a certain dogma in order for you to survive it and that's what people do so then you chip away at yourself little by little you get into this kind of job and you hate certain things about it but you then just forget those, you leave, you check those at the door in order for you to survive the day and you do that every single day you start to forget about yourself and maybe the job is taxing and you're working like 12-hour days and you don't have time for yourself anymore so you're kind of forgetting who you are so that's where maybe taking your name, she takes your name, maybe that's what it is. It's the whole, do you remember who you were before the world told you who you were? Yeah, yeah. I figured we'd get to it. We got it! We just got to talk about it a little bit and it brings our roles. Oh my God, it's much deeper than I thought. I feel like I need to. Good, really? Yeah, but yeah, it's kind of, it's really, yeah. Yeah, I do, I liked Chahiro. I think why she's very important is that she's a reminder of when you were growing up and when you were untouched by the world, right? Which is great, right? But like, for me, the main thing is that because she's a kid and so she hasn't participated in the system as much and so she's not destroyed by it so she still has that sense of self which human beings have and that, you know, she's still much more optimistic about life and she also is still more sensitive to like if there's something wrong, you know how kids are or animals, how they can sense that something is off, kids are like that because they haven't pushed themselves aside, they haven't pushed their instinct aside, they still very much have it. With her, we get to see how children operate in a negative environment versus people who have already integrated or assimilated in that negative environment. The people who have assimilated don't really see the issues and they participate in that negativity and they become part of it even if they think that they aren't, they become part of that. But then if you are someone who hasn't been, who still has your fullness you are and haven't been affected by this environment, you watch people, you can see people like you're definitely an outsider looking in and so you're more aware of the issues in there. And so I feel like with her, that's why she's able to, all of the stuff that's happening, she's much better at saying no to things or navigating that space in a way that's more profitable or lucrative for her and other people around her versus the people that are blinded by the system because they've had their names taken away and so they don't have the capacity anymore to change the system for the better, you know? She's willing to see through the stink creatures, spirits, issues because she still has this, okay well let's try to understand why this, you know, this spirit is acting the way it is. So she's got that innocence and that trust for every single person that she approaches. She's not jaded by these, you know, these learned behaviors and these stereotypes and these past experiences that affect how she reacts to things. The guy in the boiler room when she just falls asleep there because she's actually more comfortable there than where she's designated to sleep and then so that kind of when he sees her asleep there he puts a blanket on her which is a really sweet moment and then kind of breaks him out of his routine and then, yeah, it's just a nice moment for both of them. The relationship between Chihiro and Haku? Yeah. That was a very beautiful relationship. It was. Yeah. That was really beautiful. She feels like she knows Haku but doesn't know from where. Yeah. And so they both remember each other or the other from a time that they couldn't recollect. Yeah. And so then later she remembers and she's like, hey, you know when I was a kid this thing, this happened and it was a river. It was a river. What? And he, she names the full, the name of the river and he remembers that, oh, that was my, that's my name. You know, he remembers his name which is the whole thing and he gets his agency back from Yubaba basically. Yeah. Yeah. That was a really, really nice, a very beautiful relationship. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It was so sweet. And I liked that he was a river. Yeah. And it wasn't anything romantic or anything like that. Yeah. It was just that they had an experience together. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he saved, he saved her. Yeah. And he remembers that. Yeah. Yeah. It was a very nice movie. It was a, it was a very, it was a beautiful movie. Yeah. I feel like that. The music was great. That I really like. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like there's probably much more. I'm going to think about this movie much later. But that's it, right? Yeah. That's it. Completely. That's our take on Spirit Away. I give it like, I mean, it's up there with the best. Oh yeah. So I could give it a 10. I give it a 10 out of 10. Yeah. I definitely do. Yeah. It strikes like the, there's some great voice acting in it. Whether it's like the dancing for all of the frogs were great. All the spirits were cool or everything. And then, you know, the main characters. So yeah, the music was great. The animation was really cool. I definitely, this was a good review for me because when I started the review, I was not here. I was like on the phone. Now, as we talked about it, I'm like, actually. Yeah. Beautiful movie. 10 out of 10. Yeah. All right. Well, what did you guys think of Spirit Away? Let us know. Do you review it? I review it. One of those. God see it. Yeah. It was great. Yeah. Goodbye. Things will be popping up.