 My name is Kartika and I'm going to moderating this session about community engagement. I will introduce our speakers. The first one is Iksan Mokhar. He is the co-founder of Wikimedia Indonesia, an active contributors of Wikimedia Mina. And then for the second speakers, it's supposed to be presented by Anthony Diaz who is the co-founder of Wikiafactory Philippines. However, Imelda Brazal will presenting on behalf of Anthony. Imelda is a volunteer from Wikipilipines in the Central Bicol Tagalog and English Wikipedia and Wikidata. She is also the admin of the Central Bicol Wiktionary in the Philippines project. For the third presentations, later we will have to present her. The first one is Lee Bong-Soon in here and then we will have Park Jang-Sik to join us a bit later. Both of them are the director of the Wikimedia Korea Board Members. Okay, I'm ready for my success. Thank you very much. Good morning, everybody. My name is Iksan Mokhar. I'm from Wikimedia Indonesia. I'm a member of Wikimedia Indonesia. And I'm also from the community of Minakabao Speaker, language in West Sumatra. And also because I live near Jakarta, I'm also active in Jakarta community, Wikimedia. Okay, this is a survey that we did. Actually it is done with Rahmat. So me and Rahmat we conducted a survey. We were trying to get some ideas why some people still contributed in Wikimedia or Wikimedia after four years. Yeah, so the intention is to know what makes them still contributing and what are the challenges that they face. And also maybe we can use the finding to make policies to support certain communities to make people stay longer in our community. So without further ado, let me just continue. Okay, okay. So we conducted it in the month of October and we send it through Wikimedia account email and also from Site Notice Indonesia and Wikimedia. Why Indonesia and Wikimedia? Because Wikimedia in Indonesia from many language, they must be also an Indonesian language speaker. Yeah, because Indonesian language is also imposed on them since their elementary schools. So they can also understand Bahasa Indonesia. So we conducted here. And the number of respondents are 100. The targeted criteria's are people that already edits at least four years and have edited at least at the time of the survey five times and they are not permanently blocked. Okay. The number of respondents in Wikimedia are 45 people. And we have 30 questions, but we only present half of them for time consideration. Okay, from the identity of the people who already edited more than four years and still contributing, 24% is from the age group of 17 to 25 years old and about 49% from the age of 26 to 35 years old and 20% from 36 to 45 and above 45, 7%. And the gender, 91% male, not surprising, 7% female and 1% two female. And 9% of the contributed between four to five years and 91% also more than five years. And the topic that they contributed are, I think are quite wide-ranging like history, geography, and the number of respondents who have edited more than five years like history, geography, culture, public figures, society, technology, natural science, religion, health, you know, almost every topic. And so we would like to find what really invites them to contribute the first time. So 96% is because they like the idea of knowledge sharing. And also 60% said that they found an error in an article and also they are competent in the field of the article. And about 59% said that I want to show to the public about my understanding or my knowledge about the topic. And also they saw a red link and they want to develop a new skill, an issue with writing skill. And they want to participate in a discussion about an article and they are wondering why it can be edited by everyone. So like my friend there. Okay, and the obstacle in editing for the longtime contributors, 80% said that the lack of time. So I knew that this is the person already editing for five years or more, maybe seven years, eight years, something like that. And also they have other online activities and also policies and guidelines become more complex and also 18% they have other conflicts with other users or contributors. And 16% said that, well, other people have done it. I don't have to edit that article anymore. Okay. And the reason why they are less active than before, again, this is the same reason. 84% said that lack of time, they have another activities online. And also they want to spend time with their family or their work offline. And also policies and conflict around 16%. And also other people have contributed and it's about the same. I enjoy reading and not contributing. Okay. And this is the positive motives. Why they still continue to edit in their capacity, in the decreased capacity. I enjoy contributing. I like the idea of knowledge volunteering, contributing to Wikipedia makes me happy. I often find articles incomplete or biased. And I believe that knowledge is for everyone. And I prefer to look for a mistake to fix. And I like the philosophy of openness and collaboration. So those are the findings that above 50%. Okay. And here we want to find out about their engagement with our communities in Indonesia. Like we have several communities in Indonesia. So in the right side, you see that 18 people, like 40% of the respondents, they are not connected to any communities. Okay. And 24% or 11 people said they are involved in only one communities. And six people are 13% said they are involved in two communities. And also 4% for people involved in three or four communities. And the other six people involved in more than five communities. Maybe I assume this is the also longer, longer contributor and also Wikimedia Indonesia member. Probably so they are involved in more than three communities. Okay. So this is the number of community members that they are already, you know, meet or associated with or discuss or something like that. So 17 people said they're already know someone or have involvement with people in Jakarta. And it's followed by Jog Jakarta in Central Java. And in Padang, 10 people. And in Wikidata Indonesia communities, eight people. And also five people in Denpasar, Medan and Wikisource community. And Bandung and also Gorontalo in Paranord, near Philippines, four people. And the other one are only three and two people in Banjar, Nias, Madura, Batak Nis, Incubator, Makassar. And the one down there Wikimedia Indonesia, I just give a nice tricks because it's probably in Jakarta also. Okay. So from those who replied, we asked, have you ever got any support or whatever it is from the community? 40% said, yes, I got support from the community and 60% said they maybe they are connected to the communities, but they don't get the support. Yeah, so 18% people or 40% said they got some kind of support from the community and 27% or 60% said they haven't received or they didn't get any support from the communities. Okay. What forms of support that they receive? 50% said moral support. You know, encouragement or inviting them to come to the event, something like that. And 22% or four people said they received phone cell credit. Yeah, so they can edit. And also some also said they received support in transportation or they received some kind of fun and specified and miscellaneous support and also consumption and sporting activities. Okay. So from the people who said that they got support, community support, we asked again, is the support received sufficient enough? 56% said already sufficient. 39% said not yet. And the other one supported or not, we will still contribute or I do not expect any support because I'm unable to be very active. Something like that. Okay. And for the last few questions, we want to check their belief. So we said here, everyone needs to get involved in contributing to Wikipedia and starting with small things. 53% said they strongly agree. 24% said they agree. 18% or eight people said neutral disagree one strongly disagree one. Okay. And another belief that we want to check every week with a user needs to set a good example to attract new users on Wikipedia. Again, 58% said strongly agree. And 16 people or 36% said agree neutral to know this agree and one strongly disagree. This is the left this one. Okay. And here we ask again. Every week we had a user needs to create a good atmosphere to increase the interest of existing user to continue participating in Wikipedia. 69% said they strongly agree. 24% said they agree. Neutral to know this agree strongly disagree one. Okay. And I think this is the last one. Every week with a user needs to promote to the public the positive contribution he or she has made to attract more public interest in Wikipedia. 38% said strongly agree. 40% said agree. Neutral 13% disagree one person strongly disagree second. So what's next for us? Because we have 30 question but we only show like 15 because of lack of time and lack of time to analyze more critically. We will write more comprehensive article about the result of the survey. And we will use it as a consideration for our community support policies at Wikimedia Indonesia. Thank you very much. Good morning again everyone. I am Imelda and I will be speaking in behalf of Anthony and my colleague in our little register group. So just a background. I will be speaking in my voluntary capacity. And this is my first time speaking in an international group. So I just want to speak in my own language during training. So I will ask your patients to be, I will ask you to be patient in using English language. In my, in the using the English language, I might murder it sometimes but just keep an open mind. So if you happen to want to train in my own language, I assure you I will be able to teach you good speaking central vehicle language. So yeah, just again, this is another background. Every Wikimedia projects, I mean that we launch, it just really goes under incubation. It's like Wikimedia incubator. And before and before Wikiproject is being launched in a public domain, it will undergo screening from the language committee and all. So I also to be able to do this, human inconsistency in having your own volunteers and editing continuously and communicating with other groups to maintain anything in these projects. And then, yeah, another principle that helps, excuse me, that helps us develop these projects is that we started small because we during our first couple of years of being volunteers, we are very, very ambitious that we try to like reach out to every regions of the country. But I think it is not very helpful for our group because we cannot really follow up in this other communities within the Philippines because we don't have the capacity. First because we are not a recognized user group. And when you visit our meta page, you will see that there is a banner saying that this is not recognized user group and that hinders us in partnering with other organizations within our country. And also we are being labeled that we are like a legitimate group in conducting this kind of trainings with other communities. So yeah, so we realized that if we started small within our community, it will help us maintain the consistency and also the transfer of skills will be easier for us considering that we don't have much resources. We don't have much partners to do this kind of events. So yeah, with that, we come up with a project Hatchawiki. It means that we're going to work on these little language within the Philippines so that we will be able to like hatch it out and incubator. So that is our goal that out of different eight languages in the Philippines, we are going to try to help them greater little major projects starting from we call dictionary which goes and probably Wikipedia's in the long run because in the case of the Philippines, Wikipedia's like a big project for volunteers because we need to like create longer articles. But since we don't have the time in the volunteers, I think we decided that dictionaries like adding descriptions, definitions and examples will be much easier for volunteers that we are recruiting. Yeah. And as a history, I can't. So yeah, so this is the history of Hatchawiki project. We started under the Central Bico-Victionary. And in 2019, we tried to apply for a grant to like train trainers for editing in Bico-Victionary. So we ran like six meetings, we invited 22 editors and we did a project, we were able to like create 979 word-unders for the first time, for our first experience under the incubator project. And we get the second iteration under the Bico-Victionary editathon. And then from 979, we reached 100 and 1800 words. And now we have like 16 both of the new editors participating in our event. And after a year and a couple of months, we were able to like Hatch the Bico-Victionary project, which is like an incubator for around 13 years and nobody is like touching it or like looking at it. And after 13 years, we were able to like did it successfully. I owe it a lot to the grant team for giving us the opportunity to like have this project and be able to create our, to be able to hatch it out of incubator and also to the volunteers who are very consistent in participating in our trainings. So after we hatched the Central Bico-Victionary, we started to, we decided to start working on our WikiCodes and Tagalog WikiCodes. So why did we decided to like hatch another instead of like further developing, I mean, why did we start another project even though we have just a newly developed Wiki project? It's because during these years, the campaigns on She Said and She Said campaigns and like our plus feminism campaigns, Wiki for Human Rights campaigns are running every year and we will, we would like to like participate in this kind of campaigns even though we are like a very little user group. And we really cannot, I mean by volunteers and the community that we are reaching finds it very difficult to contribute on WikiCodes. And then we decided that we are just going to contribute by creating codes relating to art plus feminism, relating to Wiki for Human Rights and She Said campaigns. So that is why we started working on the WikiCodes and the Tagalog WikiCodes. So yeah, so this is like just the history of the central WikiCode and the Tagalog WikiCode. So yeah, key highlights for over two years. Our central WikiCode dictionary has now 5000 entries and we are like, we have already 30 editors participating on enough, but we have like 10 consistent editors. And successfully we also have the central WikiCode and the Tagalog WikiCode out of incubator after a couple of years. So I think in my point of view, I think I am confident to say that the Hatcha Wiki Project is successful in the last couple of years. And in the last WikiManiac, we were asked to present about this Wiki Projects. So yeah, so that's our own WikiCode. WikiSumbit is the one in Central Bicol and WikiCovidon is the one in Tagalog. I would like to introduce you to the Hatcha Wiki team. Most of them also like formed to be the board members of the Wiki Advocates Philippines. But again, we are not a user group. We're just like a team. So these are our volunteers. Sorry, sorry. So yeah, so what's next for us? Like we still have more language to work on and right now we are like connecting with other writers in the region. If you can look into the map of the Philippines, you will see a very little island facing the Pacific Ocean. And that island is called Dacatando Anis Island. Right now, the native speaker, they are like communicating with us on how you can like also have their own dictionary in their own language. And also we are planning to launch the Hatcha WikiMedia program because we realize that the transfers of skill, I mean the transfer of skills are, the transfer of skills is very important since that Anthony and I would like to be like a volunteer more and a community organizer. And we like, we want to like not stop but lessen the task of training others because since Anthony is also from Artfuls Feminism and I'm having a lot of like work at the moment, we find it very difficult to like maintain the group, being a community organizer and volunteer and also as employees. So we decided to create this program so that we will be able to like create more of us and then they will be able to create more of them afterwards. So we are looking forward to having more of me and Anthony in a central vehicle so that they will be able to create their own and who knows what they will be able to make in their own time as well. And I think that's it. If you can also scan the code, you will see our presentation during Wikipedia and you'll find out more about our volunteers, about Anthony and about the project. So I know a lot of you will be asking why we should already instead of Wikipedia. Again aside from being very difficult to edit long articles, we discovered that while we edit in Wikipedia before a lot of people are asking what is the translation of this, what is the translation of this. Right now we have the language software that we call dictionary in which they can just use to find out the quicker station of the English word so that they can also edit in other media projects. Thank you so much. Good morning everyone. I am a Bum-suri. And his name is Tutu. He is a Zhang-seopal and a tripe-hole and a Jin-jin-jia-ra man. And we now presentation to the how to make an editorial in Korea Wikipedia online and offline. And, oh, okay. What do you think about editor Tom. I don't know. I already added and brainstorming. And you said it, edit, edit, and, and. So, editor Tom is near the good price. It is museum library and cafe good cafe or good venue. And so many, many newbies, newbies are come there and have a running time. So, in our, in before to the COVID and editor Tom is just offline meeting to meet other people and communicate to the other people's and the new editors running to the what is Wikipedia and how actually Wikipedia is saying and also most important is we snack time and lunch or dinner time. And also Korean Wikipedia has just editor Tom is just offline. And but Wikimedia Wikimedia foundations is project or getting online, but it's so little and small. And, but in 2019, the COVID-19 is affected all of the country, and also South Korea government has forbidden to the offline meeting and other getting getting to people is forbidden. So, and social distancing is very important to do in the South Korea. So, we keep going also don't gather to the offline meeting. So, we get to together in online meeting is online editor Tom. For small, small meat is inevitable, but it's for four persons and three persons is a very small, small meat. And so, not together. So, we are starting to the online editor Tom. But, however, it's all right to turn it's also first time to the organized to the Korean Wikipedia so many Korean independent through movement in memory of the editor Tom yes, for example, the like the offline editor Tom's and making the online editor Tom's. Yes. People 20 people 2019. The online editor Tom is offline editor Tom's. So, talk to a book online offline editor Tom will be your presentation. It's not often the link. So, but this week is the first, first time. This is the name is a series, three to one one was said, said, sent a sent a memory editor Tom. This is the last day in offline editor Tom, and for one month is the online editor Tom's grade. Oh, so this is the three one memory editor Tom is a picture. There's a five people. Picture is take me. So population for the offline editor Tom is all right. So, three one cemetery, or I know it all. But all I know it all was more possible creation than of offline editor Tom. So many hand, hand user and our user. So, many people is better than all right. This was very interesting. And, and then the 2020. We are stuck to the online editor Tom subset of one piece. This is a Korean work 17s memory a day. Yeah, you're so. But these times, Korean government. All most of the forbidden. Yeah, forbidden the most of the social gathering. Whether the four people stop. To, you know, over to the over the two people is the gathering is forbidden. So, this is a total is the first time to the only online editor Tom. Yeah. Oh, and I plan for friend offer an editor Tom. So, but I'm just a offline is just can only get it to only two people. Offline is the failure because the, we cannot get it to the other people. So, we've tried, we cannot get it to make, make a snack time so we are, we are trying to return to the money of this venue and snack, make by the snack to make a buy the price. So, for example, when we get to the online to turn the or like the particular particular price is some books or some gifts, and, and some certificate. Many people's very, very like you put the content. Contribute. This is right money. And this first time, only only online to turn is very successful. So, our wiki wiki media Korea has going to the bank, many online to turn. For example, 2020 Tokyo Olympics, I thought, and 2022 Beijing or Beijing Winter Olympics, I thought, and we even tried, I thought on contest is very successful. So many people once out on online at the top this needs are very, very terrible. And also, now, we now open to the online to turn, but it's a very many other advances or no, not to the disadvantage. When we get it when we organize to the online to turn the berries are very disappeared and very long. So, many people and anyone can make the extra time, because when we organize to offer it to turn the people want to go into people want to participate, participate to add to turn is must go into the offline venue. It's very hard to the other when other cities to offering to the particular particular is very limited, but online to turn is not very up to the city or other situation. And also participation also come comfortably because they gather to in home and just click to the Wikipedia homepage. And instead, and we when we make by and make a snack or then imagine a venue, and we use the this money to buy to the price and we get to the people particular particular and the when we get to the only be able to turn we we buy to the some gift. So, you know, and for the batches or all the batches very useful and very good. Yeah. And this one of online to turn is have a many advances, but it also have a man for us. First, is online to turn is too easy to open. So, everyone wants to get once organized to the online to turn so very low level and it's not organized, not very organized to edit a ton is very many foodies. So, for example, one day and time around eight tons included here. Yes. So, so it's a true frequency has so people, people want to participate, get the online to turn is so to variable. And so many eyes so distance, this treat and also there are a total is so is not successful because so no people so not people get up to the online to turn and and the scoring as grading grading as body difficult. So, too, too, too difficult. Oh, because so we'll use the difficult scoring method to filter out the trafficers trafficers are only once keepers. So, one one article so edited. I'm, I'm, I'm going to please give a gift. So, yes. And, but, all right, it's not bad, and very good, very good. We'll continue to be care, because all right, it's a ton is very good event and very many people's wants that. So, we chose that we, we can be, we can be a community, we can be a political communities, make a organize to the some subject to make some subjects and community maker a total and because it's a short kind of and it's a body so it's not hard to the, you can also follow this yourself. What are we are it's so hard, it's so hard to the get into the offline. Offer, it's a, or it's only to how to the get offline. So, all right, all right. So, now get that for you can fall to the get into new editors in the Korean Wikipedia. Yeah. And, oh, we can also look forward to the mission of the offline a total, because meeting is very happiness. And this is a conference is too. Yeah. And, but, all right, it's a ton is so for students, very, very new, very useful, because students and children are not going to offline a total. They, their parents are don't like a week. So because study, study is because in Korea, the parents is just going to the university. So it's too hard to get into children into the Wikipedia. And so, all right, it's a ton has so many problems and flow, but all right, it's a ton is a useful tool for the future users. Yes. Thank you very much. All right, thank you very much to all for our speaker this morning. I will open the floor for discussion comments and questions. Anyone. Okay, we have three in here. So have there been cases where there are international editors coming to some of the online editathons or offline editathons and what, what steps could you take to accommodate internationals. In South Korea. Korean don't run to the other at this or the other countries people. So it's too, too, too little in international part of the house. So when we open to the only pick a total or the some what a total right to the is so too easy to get into in forgivable the people they some English speakers get into the our online total and this, but I, it's too little. It's not have the forgivable speakers in the Korean Wikipedia. It's so I think that this is a Korean at this is a Korean speaker is the only most of the Korean speaker have a Korean at this. Second question. Thank you for the presentation so I'm here from Indonesia, and I have experience in making online and offline and I agree with the online meeting because everyone can join, but I have a question. Do you have any different time for online and offline because in my experience is very hard to choose like in the weekend or maybe in the evening or afternoon. Is there any difference between online and offline and then the second one for online meeting this everyone have good internet or is there any trouble. Thank you. First is very big difference. Online eight ones, not exchange chance. Yes, offline eight or tone is mid and talking and so good and have a dining so exchange chance is very, very small on on online at home. Yes. And second is the most Korean have most most Korean can access to the internet and we know that the Korean can access to the internet. The 99 to 90 over to the 1990% so it's a we have a not problem to the access access to problem in online at home. And thank you for your question. I have a question from Singapore and I have a question from email the hatch a wiki project. So thank you very much for sharing and I, I know a little bit more about your project so I want to ask in the last two years you have built a pipeline of young people in your project. Can you talk a little bit about that. And also how that leads to leadership renewal capacity strengthening and how do you retain these young people. Thank you for your question. So just a background I am also a librarian and a college teacher for the library information science. So, and when it transferred to the secondary school I teach empowerment technology and media and information literacy in the government so that is a very good avenue for me to identify a very good students. So that's where I started like, I'm teaching senior high grade, it's great to open up tickets middle junior. I don't know. So, that is a very good avenue for me to like identify a very good prospect students to like invite in our edit allowance and fortunately, they're really what I'm thinking about them like they're very eager to learn. Yeah, they, they stayed. So they continue to like join us. And sometimes when we don't have any capacity building, for example, for within a three months time, they started communicating that when are we going to start editing again. When are you going to train us something like that. So I think it's a very good chance for me that I have the community that I can serve because where where I live is like a far flung area it's most ghost mostly coastal and not much internet connection so there's not much that we can do in our spare time. And being a teacher I am required to like have my own internet connection, my own gadget so at first, some of them are invited on a like movie like we just invited them to like let's have a moment all. And then they start asking, what are you doing your spare time so I'm like, you know, Wikipedia and all. And so that's where we started, and they like very interested, especially that they know that they can edit using their own language. It's very important that you tell everyone that I am not saying that we are not very academic or very technical in my line of work as a librarian. I am trained to like navigating this very academic and very technical perspective and transforming it into like very like not so technical for other people so I think it is a good edge for me that like I can translate the technicalities of Wikipedia to be making it simple for students to understand and to make them feel included, and they can also share, even though it's very, very minimal for them but I think I always tell them that you're very small contribution is a very big contribution for the community. That's all. Thank you. I hope I answered it. All right, we get the Linda first. And then after the Haiti for the last question. First and foremost, thank you very much for the important presentations, they are all very informative. So the first question will be for the for the first presentation. Yeah, there is a 40% who are not part of at least one community right. So, why are they not part of the community. And then the second part of the second question is do you have any plans of encouraging them to be part of at least one community. The second question is for Emelda. It's about the week. There is currently a Tagalog editing community. So number one is, are there efforts to reach out to them to be able to help, especially that they are, they are the Tagalog, I mean, it is their mother tongue. So, if they were to reach out. Is there a plan to include them in editing the week and then the third is for the Koreans. Thank you for the presentation. Actually, we were invited to participate. Actually, to teach some college students to edit online. I was wondering if back then we were using this quite. So, I was wondering, what problem, what did you use in your online. It's it's because in using this kind of heads and problems. So we are looking for another program that we can use for online for online edit accounts. Thank you. Thank you very much for the question. Why there's about 40% of the old timers was not relating to the communities. I think we should research more or go deeper on on that. My take on this is probably because the, the, the channel of information that we contributed our invitation is probably mostly in our meta page or in our site notice. But those people they are, you know, they have limited time and they use their limited time to contribute in Wikipedia according to what interest them. So, maybe it's not the right time and they go online and see the announcement. I cannot be sure about that, but that's probably one thing. And the other thing is probably by choice. Right, some of them, they don't want to get involved because they have like other activities other responsibilities for their family, but I think we should research more about that. And the last thing is, I think, as long as I think for the people that already contributed, like four years or more, as long as they still contribute and they think it's fine if not connected to the community, the, the, the offline community. I should say, I think that's okay. It depends on them. Thank you. It satisfies your question. Yes. So, thank you for your question. For your first, for your first question. Yes, we know that there is an editing community in Tagalog. As I mentioned earlier, we don't really have the capacity to like reach out to more people since we don't have the budget to do this kind of reach out and then ask for help from anyone. And we are, we are being limited with time and resources, but we always want anyone to be included in this kind of activities. And also, the main purpose of hatch a week is that to hatch it out of incubator so that anyone can also start editing already, because as we know when a project is incubator, it is far more difficult to edit because you will add prefix. So, and the templates are getting jumbled and all, but when it is out of incubator, like the useful Wikipedia anyone can start editing so anyone from any language or anyone who speak Tagalog or who can try to edit Tagalog can can do activities during do outreach for Wikipedia and after we launch it out of incubator so we are not really doing it as an exclusive project because as we all know, all we give you the projects are for everyone so anyone who will try to like plan out events for Wikipedia and Wikipedia is also always welcome to do this kind of outreach anytime anywhere. So just feel free to do it but for now, I don't think we have the capacity to reach out to the Tagalog community, because first we don't have the name. Second, we don't have resources. And so the moment we don't have the time so I apologize if you think that we have excluded you in working in this project but the main purpose of really hatching out of incubator is to make it available for everyone. So, yeah, I hope I answered your question. So far to the what is your last question to the what we are just using to the zoom or Google mix to the people to the gallery. Thank you.