 Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame! Shame in the woods and white... Getting everyone to stop eating beans can be much better met by taking small steps like improving the living conditions for animals in general. It's the right thing to do. It's what we're meant to do. It's been said that we're going to do this one day. We're all going to go vegan one day. That's a promise I make to you. Are these guys paying you? No. I don't think they're paying him judging by the lack of tailoring on that suit and the fact that he's not wearing a full suit. So we are at the Animal Rights Parade in New York City. These guys really don't like me. So we're at the Animal Rights Parade in New York City. What's today's date? August 22nd? It's August 23rd. It is a beautiful day. I was going to wear something like a suit or nice or professional but I decided to get a tan today. As you can see most people are covered up wearing sunglasses and shades. We were at an event last month called The Anonymous for the Voiceless and the people from that event are still here. Last time they were like going around talking to people not really letting us talk to them and I expect a lot of the same stuff today so I wouldn't really be surprised if we didn't end up getting to talk to anyone but we're going to try to hand out some flyers to some people. Hey man, this guy that just flipped me off that's wearing a vegan hat and he's got so much ink on his arms he can't even see his skin. I guess it protects him from the sun. He was actually walking out of Starbucks earlier because I was going in there to use the restroom but I didn't know Starbucks was a vegan restaurant. Look at me, where are you Papi? I'm vegan 100% look. You like it? Okay, I'm vegan. My viewers are going to love two shirtless men in a video. What would you say like the simple messages of what you guys are trying to do and how you're trying to help the moral or ethical aspects or environmental aspects of what's going on? We're trying to save the animals, save the ocean and create a better society for us to live in. I mean is this issue like, I mean people are really a lot of people don't have like any starting point. Is this pertaining to, you know, fishing for food? The way we're fishing right now is displacing the natural habitats of these animals. What is the actual overarching issue? What industries are causing the main concerns here? Overfishing and plastic pollution right now, that's the biggest thing. So overfishing and plastic pollution is definitely a concern and one of the reasons we came down to this animal rights movement today is because I thought they were going to be a little different than vegans. These people actually have a message and it's not just about, I mean it kind of is about just removing meat from the diet but these people also do care about animals. They don't wear flip flops, you know that right? Kevin don't wear felt either. They don't wear what? They don't wear felt either, this isn't real fur. So what are you? You know I actually went to a costume rental to try to get some... Don't get too sweaty buddy. I get plenty of views without doing that by educating people on health. Okay but so you're educating them about how the vegan lifestyle is actually healthier than non-vegan lifestyles? We could talk about that in a second but I have one question first. You're never going to convince everyone not to eat animals. So why not just promote for better animal conditions as opposed to removing meat entirely? Because how do better animal conditions work in any way if someone that does not want to die is actually killed? Because it's a realistic improvement. If you live right now your life you're happy, your entire life comes and casts your throat. You would be okay with that because you live that good life. You think they can eject me? Well this is public property. Do you just mind repeating what you said? So if you live your life happily free doing everything you want and then I come and I cut your throat because I want to eat your body is that justified and it's okay? Do you think you're living free right now? Are you doing what you want to do? Do you own any pets? I don't own anyone. I rescued two cats. So she has two cats as pets? Do you feed those cats? They just live with me. I'll give them a home because they were homeless. They were in cages and I saved them from that. Okay, you saved the cats. It's arguably better than the cats obviously dying but do you feed the cats their natural diet? I feed them food that they are healthy with, yes. So you think an animal is supposed to be wild and free in its environment and you have a cat living in an unnatural environment in your house and you're providing it with food? Yeah, so the thing with that so the thing with that is I would not have a wild animal that I take from the wilderness as a pet just because I want to but cats and dogs have been domesticated for many many years and now they have a problem of being overpopulated and killed because they don't have a home so to fix that problem we neutered them and we take them in our homes because we created this problem so I would never promote this problem by buying an animal, I do adopt animals. So you're saying that by removing me from your diet you're reducing the amount of cruelty? Absolutely, more than 100 animals are saved each year for one person going vegan. Okay. What about the insects herbicides, pesticides that are sprayed killing trillions and trillions of wildlife ruining the environment, ruining the soil. You have fawns, deers, rodents, gophers that all get killed when you till the soil when you farm these crops. The reason why we're vegan because we care about all those animals as well is because one cow will have to eat in their entire life she will have to eat a lot more crops yes, they will eat a lot more crops one cow for their life just so that we can eat one cow so that means that for us to eat you know cows can eat grass, right? They feed cows You know I buy grass fed beef because I actually believe in treating animals correctly There's actually studies if you want to be scientific about it and factual cows eat a lot more crops and water I can drive two fucking hours out to Pennsylvania and we'll go see some cows eating grass that don't get fed any crops They do eat grass but you know what they industrialize me, it's not like that No, I agree with you 100% Well you interrupted me about five times so now I'm going to start interrupting you The reason I interrupted you because I agree with you I think that we should stop consuming conventionally raised meat and promote better animal conditions Do you know why that's not feasible? Because currently 51% of the ice free surface is occupied by animal agriculture and its crops which means that right now we're not even being able to feed all the population, we're about less than 8 billion people Apparently we're growing food for 10 billion people and we are not even being able to feed the 8 billion people on our planet because we're feeding those foods to animals that we eat in western countries where we have more money and more resources if we were to get rid of all those animals and feed those crops to the people everyone could be fed, everyone could have water and yet we're not doing that because we're being selfish right now Do you know how many acres of pasture land are in the United States? No. 800 million Do you know how many cows are in the United States? No. 100 million Do you know how many acres it takes to raise a cow? About 20 times more than a vegan diet A cow can live on 1.5 acres of land approximately and we have 100 million cows right now if we were to utilize all of the pasture land we could have several dozen million more to raise a cow minimum If you're saying you For humans and we could have The land is not arable You can't grow crops on pasture land That's why it's called pasture land Actually you can No. It requires irrigation It requires herbicides, pesticides You have to dramatically change the land What you're basically saying is it's better to conventionally grow corn and soy Apparently you haven't because you don't know You don't know how many cows? No, but you're throwing out statistics like you're intelligent 20 times more land is required for an omniverse diet You're just pulling numbers out your ass? No, not. Go ahead There are specific crops like cucumbers, lettuce, eggplant that actually require more resources to grow than animal foods, almonds, avocados, whatever it is Alright We're gonna go to talk to some other people because I could check it out I don't want to spend 20 minutes on one interview What did you watch? Cowspiracy or Earthlings? Both Alright, we got our answer So you're not open-minded to any other beliefs? You're not open-minded You can't change your mind? I followed a vegan diet for a period of time What a lovely young lady The main reason I'm here is because it seems like a very extreme thing and I think realistically Do you think stabbing animals is extreme? Let me finish my point Do you think it's realistic? I am promoting better animal conditions Alright, we'll go somewhere else This guy's a fucking clown Hey, were you guys interested in reading about some downfalls of a vegan diet? You just like animals? Do you have a pet? No You don't have a cat or a dog? Oh, I'm surprised Why do you like animals so much? Because they're animals Why are you... I'm sorry I'm being a little bit rude So you come to the animal rights march because you want better conditions for animals in general and to stop conventional agriculture basically What do you think the best solution for that is? To stop killing animals? Well, yeah, we want it But realistically, I don't think you can convince everyone to stop eating meat, right? So instead of just saying stop and in general, why not promote better animal conditions like animals raised on pasture you mainly raise animals At least the animals are in better conditions if people are going to refuse to stop eating meat They shouldn't refuse to stop eating meat because animals have feelings too I agree that animals have feelings but you're never ever going to convince everyone to stop eating meat It's never going to happen So why not take a more realistic standpoint and support more humane agriculture? Can you repeat? I can repeat that So you're never really going to convince everyone to stop eating meat, right? So why not just support better conditions for animals? Better conditions? Could you repeat that again? Yeah, sure So why not just promote for better animal conditions? Well, it just makes more sense because it's not only about animals It also involves the environment your own health and So basically Sorry, I'm really out of it right now No, it's alright man, I understand it's hot outside New York City, EMF, Hellhole Thank you guys, thank you Enjoy the rest of your day You want to read this first, Miss? Okay, so My overarching question is you're never going to convince people to stop eating meat There's always going to be people that eat meat So why not have Why don't you go back into Starbucks and get another coffee? I will I'll meet you there in five minutes Five minutes Yeah, we could do that Listen, these people are aggressive, they're angry, I understand Yeah, just give me one second I mean, I'm being a little bit of a dick coming down here with a caveman outfit But some of these people are very nice lovely young people, others some tatted up dirt bags, but what are you going to do? So my overarching point is hey Tell them to come over here Tell them to come over here Get the police then I'm sorry, I keep getting interrupted You're never going to convince everyone to stop eating meat, so why not just promote better animal conditions? But why do we have to kill animals in the first place? No, but realistically, you're never going to convince people to stop eating meat Because eventually the majority of people are going to go vegan I'm sorry I'm so sorry I know you're taking your time to talk to me I hope people stop interrupting us, but what were you saying? I feel like it is possible though because eventually the majority of people will be against animal cruelty and then they're going to teach their children and eventually the meat-eaters will die out I feel like that's a possibility But do you think the solution is to have meat-eaters die out or just have people Well, let's look at it this way You know, you do kill insects, a lot of animals fawns, deer, gophers, rodents Are you okay with people just killing like one or two cows a year as opposed to dozens to hundreds of small animals in conventional agriculture? I know it's difficult to say to take the life of a larger animal but it provides a lot of calories and a lot of sustenance for people I actually disagree with that I feel like when you plant any kind of plant like butterflies will appear other kinds of insects pesticides, pesticides and ruin the environment Which is why we should grow organic foods Organic can still use those pesticides and herbicides, it's just different types Okay, so then the solution is to stop using pesticides simple But then you could not grow crops you wouldn't be able to So how did people do this You do understand organic farming uses animal manure Okay, okay, but I'm saying how did people grow food for themselves way, way before pesticides you assumed a lot of their calories from animal foods think about it this way if you raise a cow you have a lot of calories for the whole year The fact that people back then had to eat meat to survive, but right now we don't really have to, you know, if there's other options I'm sorry, but you said you read my sheet earlier, right? Yes Did you read the nutrient aspects? Yes, okay, so I read something, I believe it said that there was B12 in like the dirt or something like that or something and like when you pick up a fruit from the ground or something, like it has B12 on it this is just something I heard, right? or like red or something, I'm not sure if it's true but this is where I feel like people would get their B12 from I'm sorry? Yes, please So there is bacteria in the ground that does have a small amount of B12 but this is a myth what happens is cows are able to get certain nutrients from the soil, from the bacteria and they have unique digestive systems that allow them to convert those nutrients into B12 I am trying to stop clowns like you from killing babies and ruining people's health This guy's a fat, yeah You want to take a couple of hand and mouth Alright, so we're going to walk around a little bit Let's go over here, how are you ladies? Were you interested in reading a flyer? If you don't mind? I was going to get one of those too Listen, listen, listen, listen, okay I have a challenge I have a challenge I have a challenge for you for 30 days straight for lunch, breakfast and dinner you're going to have McDonald's you're going to have a McDonald's burger and guess what, we're going to supersize you let's see how you feel look at him right now, look at him right now look at the camera one month, when you want to start the challenge breakfast, lunch, dinner you will have only McDonald's and let's see how you look let's see how you look in 30 days I am 100% against conventional agriculture the types of food products that McDonald's uses do you accept the challenge yes or no what is your point? breakfast breakfast accept the challenge let's supersize him, let's see how he likes it let's see how much meat you're going to have he looks pretty supersized, he's a vegan ready for the challenge I'm not going to say the word when you're ready to accept the challenge let me know you wear that suit when you sell real estate right here young lady she said if you're such an activist, where's your poster? it's in my hand now you guys are littering too, what's going on? because you're harming the health of thousands of people you didn't even read it what's going on man, were you interested in reading a flyer about okay were you interested in reading a flyer on some downfalls to a vegan diet? check it out, thank you were you interested in reading a flyer about some downfalls of a vegan diet? you do realize you do realize I joke on my youtube channel all the time about how if I could have gone vegan four years ago, I would have had like 5 million fucking subscribers by now I swear to God no, I am promoting better treatment of animals but my main message today is that it's unrealistic to expect everyone to not eat meat so why not just try to have people eat meat that was treated better by your opinion that's your personal moral respect to people you're still killing animals when you farm more when you farm more being on this planet has a response to a negative stimulus in its environment and whether your moral judgment wants better than other things, that's up to you but if your four plants having feelings I didn't say that you don't have to know I didn't say that I want to hear it if you want to speak about it I would say what I just said every living being on this planet has a response to negative stimulus whether it's you cutting your arm or you're out of the ground there's negative stimuli in every single aspect of our modern lives and you're placing a label on what's more valuable than others but yeah I know and I understand that you mentioned the plants and your plants have feelings but you say they have a negative response no plants are if you take a leap on the tree if a rabbit needs a blade of grass the grass releases certain chemicals enzymes and molecules that stimulate antinutrients that actually damage the body what overpowers have adapted to digestion so the plants are trying to deter the plants actually deter animals from eating them that's why humans compare our foods in certain ways sourdough bread traditional Scottish preparation oats, you have natto so plants basically go through the same kind of negative effect but negative effects that animals do you're trying to generalize something I'm saying no I'm trying to understand the negative effect of why that's a vocal point I mean why is that a vocal point? the reason why I'm asking a vocal point is that cows eat plants and if you eat cows you're eating plants and cows so you get double damage the main reason for that is when you farm corn, when you farm soy you're not going to be chicken but we're not going to be chickens I'm ready I'm just trying to understand when? when you're doing conventional agriculture you're telling the soil let me just explain the brief process of how you plant cows so you have to till the soil which goes like farm story short growing corn and soy kills a lot of rodents, a lot of corn, a lot of deer a lot of insects, a lot of pets and if you were to have animals on pasture the total amount of animals and beaks that would die in summer is far less isn't far less than some way of farming what, no it's a good exact animal agriculture when you raise animals with adaptive wilting, pedigrazing and controlled environments on grass when you raise animals in proper environments on grass plants use carpet I agree but wait how are we able to raise for the demand that people want to use do you know how many acres of pasture land in the United States? 800 million 800 million acres of pasture land can not be used for growing crops and there's 100 million cattle our potential for having cattle on pasture far exceeds what we're doing right now and the reason for that is because people make too much money selling people cheap, shitty, great, fat meat you go to the unions for a green market you will buy both land products and animal products that are raised in a better way than any food you will find in this well how do they kill the animals that were raised in the better way the same way they kill them so slicing, slicing across the road is better than is worse than grinding 10 rabbits up in a pasture that's the comparison you're making veganism is about being perfect at all veganism is about doing the least amount of damage no but then you're deciding what damage is you're deciding the value of the land oh no, I'm a pro, I'm science baby animal agriculture is destroying our planet I'm not, I love I used to, I had a pig roast wait, I had a pig roast at my house I used to go to McDonald's more times today but listen, I am Grace Bax and the fact is you're saying that, you know what percentage of animal agriculture accounts for carbon emissions in the United States in the United States the entire world so total agriculture in the United States everything entirely is 9% of the emissions in the United States from the EU 3% of that is animal agriculture did you know that having one child is 60 times more carbon than going vegan I understand what you're saying but why not do multiple things to help them why are you pinpointing this wait, no, no, no you're going to answer that question first? veganism does answer that question sure well you're going to ask me 3 questions but I'm not going to be able to address each one so if you follow a vegan diet your impact versus a standard American diet is better 100% but animals raised on pasture are beneficial if you want I just have honestly one question for you why not just eat a diet that doesn't do harm to the environment and also saves lives of animals if it's unnecessary to eat meat because it is for pleasure it's 100% unnecessary to eat animal products 100% let me just say 3 points and a plant based diet does not provide certain nutrients only found in animal foods the impact of animal agriculture on the environment isn't because of naturally raised animals and 3 what are we lacking? like you said you're asking for mentioning 3 things I need to address the first thing I'm still worried no, I just want can you do this without my paper? so the nutritional aspect of a vegan diet is not adequate for humans the impact of that raising animals on the environment is solely because of the conventional agriculture 3 and at this point no more animals on the environment following a diet that raises problems why does it kill more animals? because you're spraying insecticides but you're telling me that thousands of deer, fawns, rodents millions of trusses in conventional soil but do you know that we feed livestock so you're doing double damage by eating deer? I told you I told you 5 minutes ago that there's over 700 million deer in the world for arching message I came down here today I understand just like it came in, I'm acting a little it's not a good look, I'm being a bit of a dick but this message of getting everyone to stop eating deer should be much better met in small steps like improving the living conditions for animals in general instead of having people is that when you're supporting deer? no, let's say can I finish? no, let him finish if you guys are not if you guys even can't let me say what I'm saying why are you, what's the point of me being? the least amount of harm to others man that's the point we can thrive while causing the least amount of harm to others so you morally justify eating someone's body that didn't want to die the leader of this big event walked into a starbucks earlier got a nice fat cup of buck juice a.k.a. coffee and had over 150 insect parts per cup you think you're vegan, you think you're not harming animals but you are killing trillions of insects that's good that's good that's a good point buddy now I have a question for you because he or she went and got a cup of coffee and insects died for it does that morally justify you paying for animals to be mutilated tortured and murdered for unnecessary reasons? so it's okay to buy corn and soy that has dozens and dozens of rodents rabbits, lawns, deer all this tiny mammalian life the majority of the soy and corn grown is to fatten up the animals that you're eating there are over 800 million acres of pastureland in the united states and only a fraction of that is being utilized our current model for raising animal and plant food is unsustainable it's not sustainable so whether you're eating a piece of broccoli from the supermarket or that shitty conventional raised beef you're still supporting the point that we're out here for is we're trying to cause the least amount of harm possible if you're worried about insects and rodents getting killed in crops it takes 14 times the amount of crops for a meat eater's diet than a vegan you must go vegan brother we're all here see that's not real so that's good you're already on the right path there is a rat there's all that stuff they can't kill right but you have to think about it the point is I kill wet I kill it it's not a one day thing it's not tomorrow everyone's going to drop everything it's a process I'm not telling you the name of the farm it's a process yes you are they want me to tell them the name of the farm I guarantee you have a good question I'm a question here right now if I had a vegan prepared meal or you had to slash someone's throat what would you do do you want me to cut it? no I want you to be honest if I had a nice vegan dish right here and right here I had a nice baby animal you had to slash his throat to eat his body what would you do I'll respond to that if I can hold this go ahead I think that's an unfair comparison to make and I think that the decision people make every single day has to do with the foods they're choosing in the supermarket can you answer my question here's the question just answer it when I purchase food I choose to buy my food from a local farm that was raised properly now answer the question the point is you would eat the vegan meal and you have the same decision every time you eat we got grocery stores with vegetables fruit pasta so the point is I know you went around beat around the bush you wouldn't kill the animal you would eat the other dish because the industry has removed you from the process you're okay with it on that good deal you answer my question answer mine first and you got a deal I don't trust you fuck you nothing do you know what minerals I use to grow crops no way there are easy crops that already exist can I explain this because you don't understand you don't understand when you grow crops when you grow crops I ask you minerals okay you guys ask me this question I got it don't touch me I'm trying to have a conversation with these people they're rude they're interrupting me they're putting their hands on me they don't want to hear what I have to say so we'll see if we can find someone that knows why a vegan diet is all nothing to me and I'm all a vegan diet I like the tail but he could have had a full costume so they're actually starting the march right now they're walking down this way so we took a little bit of a break and they've already marked down to 8th Street so the parade actually started on 23rd and Broadway they marked down about 15 blocks the police are slowly opening up the streets as they come come past so we're going to go down and see what's going on besides some crazy chanting here's why there are people on the side of the street they're just screaming like lunatics I'm sure there's going to be news articles later saying how big this event was but the reality is there weren't more than a couple hundred people here a few hundred people in London I watched so I wouldn't believe there's no way there's more than a thousand people hold on we got to do the first makeup check of the day we got to wipe my face I got to use the makeup you're not the kind of person that goes up to a stranger and falls into a piece of shit you're a piece of shit and you are too what's called history on it personality hey come on relax relax it's alright now you guys can walk let's go it is safe to say that not much positive happens here at the animal rights March 2019 besides Frankie boy getting a nice even tan who knows if anything positive will ever come out of these movements thank you guys for joining me if you could please like the video subscribe hit that bell icon and share the video if you can if you guys would like to support me further I got some of the other videos on my channel maybe some of you nice people can move to New York so there aren't so many dirt bags down here but we'll see so I came to ask people what's important to them in the election the 2020 election that's all I want to know so do you have an opinion about that in regards to the 2020 election my life has never changed from any sort of so can I interview you so what matters to you the day to day life of the average person everyone always talks about politics everyone's very emotionally based but at the end of the day everyone's doing the same thing they wake up, they go to work, they come home whatever they do they do their hobbies they do this, they do that that all people do is talk and they don't really take action with anything people put all of their eggs in one basket being their family, themselves I personally spend most of my time making educational videos trying to improve people's health so when I see someone talk about oh Trump, oh election you people spend an awful you suck Frank you people spend an awful lot of time talking about to me personally the health of people and that people are happy and the first step for that is making sure people are getting quality food in their diet or exercising and if you can't meet that requirement then you have a population of people with a low IQ that are sick, that are unhealthy that can't function day to day lives and once you're able to do that then we can take