 dystopian time so i know currently right now you're wondering who's going to be the next progressive champion to run for president well folks fear not because qanon congresswoman to appear at key iowa event sparking speculation of a white house run i think i found my 2024 candidate folks qanon believing representative marjorie taylor green may be gearing up for a run at the white house bloomberg news jennifer jacob's reports that green is scheduled to appear later this month at the iowa state fair which she notes is a traditional venue for politicians contemplating presidential campaigns jacob's adds that it's not yet clear whether marjorie taylor green will speak at iowa state fair or just attended and she notes that the Des Moines register this year isn't organizing a soapbox which politicians in the past have used to raise their profiles for a national campaign green so far has served less than one term in the united states house of representatives where she has been removed from her committee assignments over her past calls to have house speaker nancy pelosi executed among other reasons so i mean long story short she very likely will run for president so this is the question that i want to ask the panel viable or not i have my answer but he can she win in the united states of america no shot no shot no shot maybe like she could run cause a stir and then like future like open the path for other q and honors in the future you know she could be the q and on trailblazer but uh i don't think similar how to how bernie sanders got so close but never actually became the progressive champion we wanted uh this yeah i don't think she has a chance but someone in my chat did say hell yeah margin charge and i feel like if that would be her slogan when she runs for sure margin charge no stop it sarah in the united states of america i honestly feel like your answer to this question is a gauge of the amount of trust you have in like your fellow americans is she viable yes or no no sorry i'm not very like hiding my feelings that's one thing that i like stopped having to do after a camp let it rip yeah like now i'm like um if you had asked me in like three years ago i would have been like no but let me tell you something not taking i have like two key points on this like not taking nutter butters seriously wound us up with um donald dj trompo um for four freaking years because no one took him seriously we're lazy about campaigning hillary was lazy about campaigning everyone was like oh it's just donald trump no way in hell and that didn't go very well so do i think she has a chance um i don't think she doesn't have a chance but the other thing that like to keep in mind and this is so cool if you've never read like i'm just gonna plug a book i'm reading so like i'm sorry like not allowed um so i'm reading culture warlords by tally labin if you have not read it it is such beautiful insight on like anti-semitism and white supremacy in like the underbelly of these circles and like what it looks like in white supremacist circles like part of the reason donald trump was able to to say all these horrible things and be this horrible goblin um and he's able to like bridge strolls way to the white house is because he was a white man saying it but white supremacy and misogyny go really really closely hand in hand and so having a woman try and say the same crass things violates this like um white supremacist idealized perfect woman narrative in their heads so she can't get away with saying the same things and capture that same vote that got him elected so i i think she's unviable in the sense that to capture those white supremacist crowds she as a woman can't come out and just espouse all these things like and she's not like she doesn't um she's trying to say what they consider masculine things as a woman like they're not gonna that's not gonna fly in those crowds and they're the reason donald trump was elected so i don't think she'll be able to capture the base she would need so i don't think so but i also think it would be lazy and stupid to not at least pretend seriously yeah yeah don't don't downplay the threat um i just watched the first episode of the human support on the last twitch stream and in that first episode i covered donald trump's campaign launch and you know i i asked myself this question does donald from have a chance should be we be worried and my answer no not at all he doesn't have it so now i've learned that he did it myself i learned that last day that donald trump has a chance the second time i do no i don't i don't actually i don't think he does i do you do the only reason that i say that is because like i um my partner's parents are like deeply deeply deep homes he was homeschooled all the way up through the church conservative um he became a dirty disgusting super left socialist so he's fine but um both their kids are now totally socialist it's so wild but so he's from that community i use them as a gauge for like what's going on because they're so in the rabbit hole um the amount of betrayal people feel in that community by donald trump like we don't see it because we're not in those communities like they feel the same level of betrayal that some of these very online turbo leftists feel about aoc um for some reason she wasn't able to change the tides of hundreds and hundreds of year old she's not the queen of america after three years she can't change a 250 year old system that's been marginally oppressing people like her forever get around there um and designed to be incremental exactly and like so that's what i think don't realize that but they don't but like i think it's like why can't we just get everything done it's like the systems literally there's same reason that donald trump wasn't able to undo everything that's half decent in america is the same reason why progressives struggle to get progressive policies it's literally meant to be incremental and slow at the institutional level like that's that's that's one thing i really think is an important point institutionally speaking by design like this is all like rapid change in the united states is very very rare and that's why we look to you know the 1930s like the green new deal as times of like rapid change because they're so infrequent but before we get too far down that rabbit hole i've got to ask david doll margaret green can she win i think she can win the nomination uh i think it also depends on on competition um i hadn't thought about until sarah brought it up the the how conservatives would feel about you know a a woman saying these things as opposed to you know donald trump saying and getting away with it so i because you brought that up i think i think she would have a harder time i think if uh you know if desantis in florida ran he would have a better shot than than greenwood um also assuming trump doesn't run i think if trump runs i i think he gets a nomination i mean based on i mean i know we can't put too much trust in polling but if polling does seem to lean conservative so if the polling is to be believed they still side with him for the most part um but yeah i think she has a shot absolutely if she ran i do have a question for sarah though why do they feel betrayed by trump what's what's the betrayal there so like the weird thing is like they think that because he's like um he stopped carrying the torch of the like election fraud like the big lie and all that stuff and and then like the anti-vax community has like this weird like overlap with these these people and like they feel like because he suddenly just took the covid vaccine that like he's now betraying the values that he pretended embracing the deep state wow yeah he's part of the deep state and microchipped and if you've ever watched your like dog get microchipped did you know how fat that needle would have to be to fit a freaking microchip right oh my god but anyway that would god digress but like so they feel betrayed by him because like they now it's like mike lindell the pillow guy who's like handling all of this like election fraud stuff he's kind of phased himself out and he's not really fighting as they see it um so they feel this level of like betrayal that's happened and so there is like there is conservative infighting and there is conservative drama just like there's leftist drama we just aren't in the circles to see it so i have to like gaze through their facebook's unfortunately to be able to see it let me ask you guys a question since marjorie taylor green has said a lot of anti-semitic things jewish space lasers famously and uh what was the recent thing she said about the vaccine in the oh she said it was basically comparable to the holocaust and then she had to come out and say no the holocaust was actually worse or some some stupid like she learned about the holocaust for the first time ever what i wonder is like uh would would um israel supporters uh hop off of her all together and say she's an anti-semite um i would say no because the support for israel in the united states is largely based off of evangelicals so they they don't necessarily care about israel insofar as like they're they're worried about jewish people they just like they view israel as a means to an end and the the end being like you know uh jewish people have to overtake israel and that could trigger like jesus coming back it's really like deep and it's it's very like hyper religious but i don't necessarily think that her anti-semitism surprisingly and contradictory seemingly so yeah what would would count her out because you know they they they view that as well we don't really care i think there's a lot of even like anti-semitism within the evangelical community that is very you know vocally pro-israel so i i think that there's some hypocrisy yeah they don't care about hypocrisy at all i mean trump trump was anti-semite i mean he's made right many statements that were anti-semitic in speeches and and so they didn't care about that that yeah hypocrisy they don't care all about yeah ultimately like it all just comes back to like they have this like oh my gosh i learned so much from like being with someone that was so deep in the church it's like it hurts my head some days but like he like they're so they're obsessed with israel in so far as its relationship like mic said to to jesus christ but as far as like the as far as its relationship like the jewish people like they don't see like um they see that it's totally fine to be anti-semitic but protect the homeland of jesus and like that's how they look at it so they they are it's it's just a mess and like they don't really care about it in the sense of the how the the jewish people care about israel they care about in the sense of how like oh jesus's homeland the second coming like the great hereafter is coming paradise is coming and it's just a total loony toon's theology but like i just don't a judoist high on mushrooms wrote a book at like true yeah and they're like it's real and i'm like i should have written a book like two weeks ago most of the people who believe in this shit have never tried shrooms by the way so they them it is magical they need shrooms yeah like maybe they'd be like hey this is actually all that crazy i can do it and then like having and i'm just gonna be honest i'm again like not sure how real i can be like having done them i'm like people believed like if people just did these they'd turn around and look at revelations and be like oh oh maybe not maybe dragons aren't gonna fly through the sky in the dead of night yeah yeah that that if you watch um man i'll have to reach out to you hema afterwards there's a documentary i watched on american evangelicals that even like growing up evangelical in this community there was so much that i wasn't aware of and it's it's mind blowing i'll have to see if i could find it but it's i love it because i grew up secular so religion religious fanatics fanaticism is uh very interesting dynamic if it does if you guys i don't know if you take this no offense to anyone who is religious or has faith like by all means bless have faith whatever floats your boat um the the sect with the sharpest decline of membership um is actually evangelicalism now so i saw because they're being silenced by the mainstream media okay i saw this religiosity chart though that showed like uh the religiosity of all the different generations and like you've like boomers and then you'd like gen X right here and then millennials are like down here and we drop off and then gen z literally just goes so gen z is over it and like it's just i'm really interested i think if i recall all poli in general like as people get older they embrace their it's like the they're afraid of dying or something and they get more religious like younger generations are always less religious but somehow religion continues right like it's always like if these this current young generation grows up religions over but then they grow up and some of them become conservatives and some of them become religious and yeah like nancy had a reminder nancy polosi used to be like considered the most progressive member of the house she was like a founding member of the progressive caucus like so you know she just got close to death and