 Hey curlfriends, I'm Bianca Renee and you're watching Bianca Renee Today and today is another episode of Curl Talk. And I have a very special guest, Ellie from Dope Curls. What's up? So my name is Ellie aka Dope Curls. And I also have a YouTube channel. On my YouTube channel I talk about the, basically the health of your hair, keeping your hair healthy, deep conditioners, home remedies. And as you can see I have more four type hair. And that's exactly why she's here. Honestly, backstory, I literally just found her on Instagram. Like she added me and I was like, oh my god, I love her hair. Her curls are dope. And I was like, I really want to do a video on my channel with type four hair because you guys have so many questions because her hair type is different than mine. And she lived in Vegas so I was like, damn, like you're too far. She's like, girl, I will drive to LA. And here she is. So she's like the real MVP. So thank you for being here. Thank you, thank you. But when you asked me I geeked out. Like I really geeked out. I was like, I don't want to freak out. I don't want to act like a fan. But I'm fanning out. So I'm super excited to be here. So thank you so much. Of course. So I actually went on Instagram live this morning. If you don't follow me on Instagram, what are you doing with your life? Follow me at Ms. Bianca Renee. Follow Ellie at Dope Curls with twosies. Yes. But I asked you what questions do you have about type four hair? My hair is type three, more like 3B. What kind of hair do you have? Finally type, I would say 4A. Now it's weird because I do categorize myself as 3C in the front, but more 4A, 4B throughout my hair. Because we all have so many different textures. Yes. Okay. So let me see your type three section. Where is it type three? Where is it type four? So I feel like, okay. Especially when I wet my hair, I feel like it's more so. They're tighter curls. So I'm like, is it more? Maybe this is more 4A. So that's the thing about the whole curl typing thing, which is a whole another story. Depending on what chart you look at, some people would say might have 3C hair. But my curl versus your curl is so different. So now that I'm looking at yours, I'm like, yeah, 4A. I would say that your hair would be 4A. Yeah. Because even in years 4B. It's so healthy and so soft. Thank you. Our hair is obviously very different, so that could mean different techniques, different styling. So we're going to go through all that right now. So one of the main questions I got was about, just your typical wash and go. Why don't you walk me through it? I actually had you film some footage so we get to see her do it. Yes. Let us know. Do you pre-poo? Do you shampoo? Do you detangle in the shower? Like, give us the whole rundown. Okay, awesome. So when I first get in the shower, I divide my hair into at least four to six sections. Sectioning is very important. It's important because you want to make sure that every strand gets touched. Every strand gets moisturized. Every strand gets cleansed, correct? So that means we're just going to have to go the extra mile. And typically with type 4 hair, we have thicker hair. So we have to make, you know, we have to make bigger sections, okay? Just to break down the old product build-up, I typically use apple cider vinegar mixed with water to dilute the apple cider vinegar. And don't worry guys, it's not actual glass cleaner. I mixed half and half water and apple cider vinegar. So with the apple cider vinegar, it is going to balance out our pH level of our hair. Therefore it's going to protect it from breakage. And it's going to add shine, moisture, and it's going to help with frizz and detangling. So use apple cider vinegar as your pre-poo or instead of a shampoo? I use it instead of a shampoo. Oh, interesting. I definitely don't use shampoo because a lot of shampoos have sulfate in them. I do like the sulfate-free shampoos, but I feel like they still do dry my hair out. So then after that, I leave in the apple cider vinegar for about 10 minutes. You want to massage your scalp to get that blood flowing and stimulate hair growth. And after that, I'll use my DivaCurl No-Poo and replace a shampoo, basically. So you kind of cleanse twice. I do cleanse twice. You get that good deep clean. Yeah, right? Yeah, I do cleanse twice. Maybe I need to just do it once so I can switch it up. I use the No-Poo as a replacement to shampoo. So it's still like my cleanser. Sometimes I use the DivaCurl Build Up Buster which is also great for product build up, but apple cider vinegar is definitely a lot cheaper than DivaCurl. But I also like the one condition, so I'm really glad to hear you say that because there is like a stigma that people say that DivaCurl products don't work on type 4 hair, and I'm glad to hear that you love it. Exactly, yes, I do. I love DivaCurl. I swear by it, it's amazing. But you want to make sure you get the decadence line. Yes. Because our hair needs as much moisture as possible. And then after you're done cleansing and conditioning in the shower, do you detangle with a Denman brush or your fingers? Or how do you detangle? So it depends. I use a wide tooth comb or I will use a Denman brush as well. Kind of whatever is on hand. But it works for my curls. As long as my hair is soaking wet, the Denman brush will detangle and also define. See, I like did not like the Denman brush. See, that's crazy. I'm like... For me, it was like such a rough brush. Wow, wow. And I feel like it was like literally ripping out my hair. I wasn't getting any slip at all. Even with my best conditioner. Really? And I've been told I could modify it. But I'm like... But people also told me that Denman brushes aren't only for detangling, they're for just definition. Do you use it to detangle or for both? Or what do you use it for? I use it for both. It will define my curls but I feel like it does cause a little bit more shrinkage. Because my curls are more... That's true. You know what I'm saying? They're spirals. So what do you do to get rid of shrinkage? Great question. So I actually tried on an errand one day. I think I just came up with this. So I'll take a blow dryer and the attachment to the blow dryer. Honestly, I have to put on my page what I do cause I don't know if I have a recent one. So thank you for that. New video coming soon. Yeah, literally. Thank you for that. So I'll take a blow dryer. I'll take sections of my hair. Part it. Blow dry just the root. And I leave it on medium heat. I don't do high heat. It's not even necessary. Okay. I just want to make sure your hair is fully dry. I also have shrinkage. So let's do a little shrinkage test. I know. Let's do it. Mine is actually this long. You see yours? See? Dang! We both got inches that we're not getting credit for. Right. And we're not getting any credit for it at all. At all. So for what I do, I also use a pick. I kind of pick my hair down. Okay. And that kind of brings it down. Then I'll bring these parts up. Okay. And that kind of helps the hair. I use a diffuser attachment and I'll kind of pull it and just kind of dry it while it's like being pulled. Okay. That kind of helps versus always doing this. We'll just obviously scrunch it up. But if you want it longer, just kind of like pull down. And you're also getting really good volume. Yeah. So what day of hair is this? This is first day hair. This is your day one hair? Yeah. Okay. We got to talk about this. My hair would never look this like beautifully volumized on day one. What? It's like four hair. It's not going to be like flat. No, no. That's not happening. Yeah, you're right. She's so right. Yeah, she's right. After you get out the shower, then what do you do for styling products and how do you apply it to your hair? For styling products, I typically use a conditioner. I don't want to say it's leaving because it's not always leaving. But I would say I use like a medium thickness. Yes. Medium thickness for a conditioner. Certain conditioners are too heavy for my hair. I'll use a hair dryer and then I'll use an oil. So typically coconut or almond oil. Okay. Put it through my hair and then I typically use a mousse. And what I'll do is I'll actually mix all three together. So a little like in your palm, you'll get some conditioner and some oil and a mousse. Exactly. Mix them together. Yep. And divide my hair still into those four to six sections and start from the ends and work my way up to the root. Okay. And use my Denman brush. Brush through so my curls can be straight. Okay. And I can never like, what do you do? That's what I do. That's crazy. Like I wish I could do that. Like I cannot do that. Honestly, I'm really lazy with my hair. That's why it's funny you guys listen to me. But I will just like literally get product and I smooth it. You're making me cry. I smooth it on my hair and then I scrunch. That's amazing. That's great. I know if I if I do do sections it will be more defined. Okay. But I actually prefer even more lately volume over definition. So if I I could do sections and I'll get literally perfect curls but it'll be really flat. I understand. So I almost need like that frizz at least underneath just to like give me some extra cushion. Okay. And while the pretty curls are on top. Got it. Another common question that I got about type 4 hair that I want to discuss is how do you refresh your hair? Typically I refresh my hair by taking a water bottle mixed with oil. Oh, you put oil in the water bottle. Because I live in a desert. Oh, yeah. Vegas. Vegas. So all my Vegas girls everybody that lives in a desert I would recommend you mix your water with oil just so your hair you make sure it gets the nutrients that it needs and also because it's out it's going to be it's more prone to get more dry quicker. Oh, that's a really good point. You know for me if I refresh which I'm very team refresh like I'll refresh for eight days if I can I have to use not to soak it if you don't have to but I'll just mist it with just water I kind of want to try this oil thing now. And I have to use a little bit more of my gel or a little bit more of my cream and then my hair will last otherwise if I just wake up I'm like oh it looks cute. It'll look cute in the day but it won't get me to the end of the day. Oh, I see that's like so different like if I did that I'd have too much products in my hair. So the main thing for me is how I sleep helps with how I have to refresh. So I sleep with a pineapple a hair up and a ponytail. Yes and I do the pineapple exactly. See everybody's team pineapple. Exactly. We love it like you have to try it out. I use a scarf. I use a scarf and I do outside pillowcase. Yes. So we discovered a lot of curl knowledge. I'm so happy you came in the channel to educate us on how to do this. So we're going to get started here. We're actually going to go over all of our favorite curly hair products. So the best products that work for type 3 hair versus the best products that work for type 4 hair. So we're going to get down to the nitty gritty of what products you need to buy and which ones you don't on her channel right now. And if you have your own type 4 tips please leave those below and follow her on Twitter, Instagram and Snapchat which is dope curls with two Z's. So make sure leave a comment and let her know that Bianca Renee sent you and watched all of her amazing curly hair videos as well. I'll see you guys next time. Thanks for watching Bianca Renee today.