 Hello everybody if it's Wednesday, it's Warhammer. It's not Wednesday. It's Saturday Which means that it's also Warhammer because today was a reveal show and That means it's time for us to react to this stuff talk about it hypothesize and Generally share with you What we think this portends for the future. How right were we during our prediction show? We'll see how you doing Tom? I'm doing great Awesome Yeah, like so let me just explain for everybody the situation. I've been in first of all. Hello, everybody I hope everybody's doing well today. Hope everybody enjoyed the reveals I left my house and went to a place with my wife where there's basically no internet way out in the country about 20 minutes after we ended the show on Wednesday I got back here about 30 minutes ago and sat down at my desk and had to catch up on all of this And I have so I saw nothing until there you go. There you go, Hawkeye But I have seen nothing up until like 30 minutes ago So I did my best to catch myself up on everything while I was waiting for Tom All right, but let's get in this Tom first off high-level thoughts. What'd you think? just bonkers amazing like just fantastic like I I loved Just about everything we saw Yeah, I agree. This was really good. I wanted to see more of The upcoming soul like grave lords. I really figured at this point since the army had leaked They would do something right or talk about it some And they're like saving that for the adepticon March reveal, right? Yeah, that's fine like whatever we know. It's there. It's coming so Fine, that's good enough. I guess But you know, there's still like so much good stuff in this so I figured we just go break it down Let's go beat-by-beat on this. We've got some photos brought up so we can start pulling things apart And we'll go from there All right, so obviously we got a lot of stuff blah blah blah video blah blah blah 40k thing I just want to talk about this for a minute. Obviously. This was one of the couple of the Christmas Reveal engines preview engines, whatever they want to talk about, right? and You know we had I said like it looks like sisters feet and Yep, but this isn't exactly what I was picturing This is a weird thing but Sure, I it's here, you know what This to me is like something I would bring into a OS and heartbeat Let me just say that little weird walking suit like this This just feels like this is ready to go This reminds me of Ricky Smith because Ricky Smith did a bunch of conversions like this out of the penitent engines. Yeah, right? So I will say that I look at that and go Couldn't throw a helmet on No, that's it. Well, I mean there's a lot of her exposed as well, but that's fine. Yeah, no didn't want to put a helmet on We're just we're all like Headshots real valuable here. I guess well, that's always been the case with all space Marines and 40k related stuff The cooler people never wear helmets just asking to be shot in the head. Yes But yeah fun fun cool neat thing. I like it It's it's an interesting take on this sort of dread not like frame, right a little more grey night's eat whatever We got the little update on kill team with the pariah nexus like I'm not gonna watch these videos We don't really care. This isn't really what we're here for but You know needed up. I like little chronomancer guy. I think he looks cool. The flayed ones all look cool Yeah, good stuff, you know big old box set This is what I figured they were gonna do with kill team as soon as they announced pariah nexus that it would be and I think you know Adam from tabletop mania to talk about how he thought it would be like a close quarters type of thing and Sure enough, that's what it is. So it'll probably be Quite expensive given what's in it because you're talking about like 12 figs plus all the little terrain markers Those train markers will be really really great if you happen to be a necron player and want to make a cool display board Let me just say that that's that's gonna be your option Yes, people are saying there is a helmets adoption and helmet adoption. Yeah, I'm sure there is It's always just funny when they have an unhelmeted option is what we're pointing out that it's funny You would go to war it with things that like I've I've read the descriptions on how bolter shells act and what they do and Just like weapons like that And it's funny to me that oh my gosh go away That That you would think like yeah, sure. Let's not put a helmet on so there you go. Yep Anyways, I'm excited. Yeah, Titanic is cool big giant robot. Okay. That's a couple rumor engines hidden in here From stuff previewed in other videos and so on and so forth. He's real big. That's neat bigger than the warlord cool beans Okay, I Just think about what this thing would be if it was scaled up to like normal scale if that's the size comparison with the world Titan Yeah That's a lot of resin say Yes, just insane. It'd be like eight feet Uh Yeah, yeah, exactly like it would it would be a truly a small child So my my my size I was talking with my son about it and we watched a reveal show together And he's like trying to get scale and he's like look at the look at that compared to those buildings And like he was thinking about that in verse like as if they were 32 millimeter buildings It was the best. Yeah, it was the best conversation that I've ever had with my son And I'm like no, that's not really 20 feet tall son Right cuz because in his mind the only scale that exists is the scale that he's played in insane. Yeah, right exactly Yeah, exactly. It was fantastic That's fantastic Okay, so yep, and then that thing. All right now. We're down to the good part I've obviously watched all these videos because I have the page up, but we're gonna That matters. I'm gonna roll this and mute it so it doesn't deafen everyone We'll just kind of we'll just kind of talk it through while it's well. It's going here So Tom LRL part two and don't worry we're gonna break down photos of all this in a moment like we're gonna bring up individual photos I'm just letting it roll What did you think about all of this? Are you obviously first of all, what did you think about the reveal that kind of thing? There's a lot of you well what reveal like we saw one model to be clear We saw like we clearly saw one model. This is exactly where I wanted to go. Yeah. Yeah, no You're hitting the exact point. I mean, but here's what I'll say This release seems like it it will be as large as the original line release It's big. It's like it's big. It's big Because there's no kangaroo riders in there, right? Like think about that. Yeah. Yeah, I got you like you're saying so I'm completely a page nor was Cloudboy Nor was like Monkey King Cloud Rider in here either, right? So you've got like him and the roo riders and this new guy that we'll look at here. I'll just scroll the page Yeah, I mean I anticipated when I was watching this initially that oh, okay, so everything's gonna come in Teclas part two But That's a lot of units for Teclas for for a broken realms book It's surprising. I mean they're all gonna be in there because it says specifically This is where the new war scrolls are what we'll get to in just a second Let me zoom down to the zoom in images on this guy like that is quiver is basically the old bolt thrower Yeah, quiver standing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great call out like in our chat when that happened You know one of the comments that I made was that like it's just a great call out to the old bolt thrower But because the quiver is identical to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Cool little Fox spirit guy here. Can I just say how much I love the job the painters did with the flame on his Bolt here like this move. Yeah through the orange and white into the blue Like that's just a wonderful magical fire image. That's almost like rhyme fire, right? Just super cool I've never seen them paint fire this way before in this kind of a thing. I really love it I want to steal that so I had such a great combination. I'm not sure I really ever noticed anybody painting rhyme fire exactly like that So, uh, yeah, I love Fox spirit. Let's let's start with him and then we'll get into the conjunction Yeah, I've seen various things like of course the the memes are out in full force Yep, we've got our Robin Hood From Disney Robin Hood, right? Yep. Yep. Well, I've seen some Pokemon or Digimon or something like that I don't know if that's for that. That's things that kids use. That's that's that's you younger whippersnappers know about that stuff And and on and on and on do you like this guy Tom? That's my question He's fine. Okay. They didn't pull it back with this dude Say what they didn't pull it back with this dude. I mean, I don't know Look, you know Tom Maybe this maybe they go so far a field like because your thing is is weird, right? Like you have this very specific image of high elves in your head and nothing else will work for you, right? Right, and I'm not we're we've had our aesthetic argument a million times. I'm accepting that this is your narrow band, right? But yep That we like we went so far around that you're like, well, it's not high elves at all anymore It's just something else and I kind of like whatever this weird new thing is, right? Nope, it's thank you for acting. I mean what I'll say is this I this is very I had so many jokes What I'll say is that it's like they didn't learn their lesson with the Lord solicit Okay, because I'm no more interested in this weird whirlwind thing as I am Lord sell to trash hurricane Sure, like you my immediate thought was that's cool. I'm just want to stand this guy up on some terrain Sure, sure. Yeah. Yes. I mean what I'll say is this like I some people are gonna love this guy and you know what? That's great. I'm fine with that It there's like the yeah exactly. What does the Fox say? You know like my joke, you know, like would be GW's really been exploring the non-binary stuff with slanesh. Sure. Yeah, yeah And so they they they definitely wanted to get a nod to like the furry crowd with this army. Yeah, yeah, sure I mean because like the animals are just out in force. Hey, that's um It which is fine. I'm just saying it's it's a you know, if GW was wants to give their nod. That's fine. I I Don't know man. Like I just Like and you know for some folks like this is this is this is it. This is their army. This is what they've waited for cool Go you What was the name of the like foxes in in in magic they were in like Kamigawa or whatever? I think I don't know kid Sunni kid Sunni. That's what they were because that's like a real creature from Lord That's what this guy reminded me of right like sure and that's fine and that's fine Like again, this this is a very look to be very clear This has a very eastern feel the whole army does at this point Yeah, like we knew they were leaning this way and they've really leaned into like the animal spirit stuff Like the spirit folks styles and you know what? awesome awesome Okay, right. It's not for you, but yes, like it's clearly for some people Yeah, I guess your little impromptu Twitter poll showed right so like you know, there you go That's fine. That's fine. I think this guy's sweet I completely agree with you on on tornadoes like I think he's like and the ribbons Melting into the tornadoes or whatever like, okay. I'm good. Yeah, I'm super good. Oh All right, let's let's let's bring up some images from the video and let's drill into these bad boys Okay, I Think I need to One of the units that was revealed. We actually have a whole bunch of other images of shadowy units Oops wrong one including an alternate sculpt of this guy We'll come back to those guys Okay, so sorry I had stuff my images are sort of jumbled here because I I didn't have time to separate them properly I think that that's probably a In either an 80 or a 100 mil round Jack oh for the for the base. Yeah, the uh, yeah for the go for the Kitsuni. Yeah, I mean it feels like a That's what it feels like. Yep. That's what I was gonna say. Yes. It feels like 80. Yep. All right So I've got our first image up here From the video, which is first of all, I'm glad to see that JJ Abrams is still getting work after the last our worst movie all the lens flash. It's just like lens flare-a-thon 2021 Like and I don't I'm not sure I get this this let me let me just I want to talk about this elf preview This is what I was driving at earlier. This is like the worst of all worlds Okay, yeah, because we know it's coming, but we know nothing and they didn't get like just do this is gonna be Contrasted by the Warhammer quest trailer preview. Yeah, which was perfect. That's exactly what Rob Yeah, I'm not exactly what I agree with him on right kick off with some awesome narrative Yeah, what are clearly like drawings of the images of the figs? We're gonna get right? and Set up the story so I care like here I don't know why any of these things exist other than I got this little story about wind or whatever, right? But I get I get no actual models and basically no narrative. What it is to be To be clear outside of the Broken Realms book, which is not a luminous Video, it's a broken realms video. Sure. We've got no narrative luminous videos Yeah, because they're everything play for joke. Yeah, all of Luminous like has been this like mocking joke video Except for the Broken Realms video and so like for me. I can't take the army seriously I understand I think these like I get that it's harsh But I understand where you're coming from because I think those narrative videos really do a good job of like Setting the thing in the world and giving you the point of view, right? Like how famous is that the bad moon spoke to me once? Oh, that's a good video, right? It was amazing video. You got the whole thing Skragrot was about but the goblins are about right the importance of this in their religion and how and and how weird They are right like yeah, anyways Okay, so this guy right here who's up on the screen clearly some kind of single-figure caster, right? Like holding up his arm. He's in or something like that. I assume it's I think we're actually looking at The back of the fig like I think he's facing the sunlight, right? Like this is actually the back of the fig He's in almost the the breakfast club pose There as he looks pretty I just he's just given given that that fist You know, you try to define the elves in the simplest terms you see us as as how you want to see us And so on and so forth, but yeah I mean okay cool probably a new single figure caster guy for the new elemental temple, right? Yep wind tassels got it. Yep got it Excellent. Okay. Great. Can't really see much else. He has a big flappy cloak and he's you know, whatever it's fine something else there Yeah, all right. Let's talk about new Writer that looks like a different version of as you pointed out I loved it. I share this video this image with you and you're like, what's the big deal? We've seen this guy. I was like, oh, oh, oh, but wait. Yes, there's more. Yeah, this is a dual kit because the helm is different Right. It's actually interestingly very reminiscent of Tyrion's helm. I don't think this is Tyrion to be very clear I do not think this is Tyrion, but it's a very elfie Tyrion like let's just put this in the grave. Okay, stop stop all of you people who are LRO people I see it in the LRL chat all the time. It's like maybe this will be Tyrion's release No, it won't it's not because Tyrion doesn't come out as a shadow of Teclis, okay when Tyrion comes out and shows up with what like when they introduce these gods It's like a huge deal Right. Yes, and it has all this like fanfare and it gets lauded and they have their own book and it's like It's a huge deal when they release these new gods these new centerpiece models, right? They're basically our Primarchs and So like no he does not come out in this like second wave release as an afterthought to the original LRL This is just the rest of the Teclian stuff Right, right. Remember there are four nations that are Teclian aligned, right? There are four that are Tyrion aligned, right? And the book is actually called Teclis. You don't get the Tyrion model in the Teclis book Yes, I mean yes, like I as I've said it before if you think Tyrion is this year I would be super surprised that would truly surprise me I would lay a significant amount of money that you will not see Tyrion until 2022 at the earliest and if I had to bet it be the end of that year Yes, yeah, so at any rate, yeah This is the same guy as the other hero they lens flared over his head So you can't you can all you can just barely see the little horns that that guy has, right? Yeah, so you can't tell it's exactly the same model, but I agree with you so that means one of them is clearly a Special like a name hero and one of them is the generic version, which is great. Good thumbs up a plus Like I think we all that's what everybody wanted to see, right? I never mind when they include a special character option on an otherwise hero I think almost all heroes should have special character versions I don't see any reason why not swap a handful of bits and we have a new a new unit, right? Right, right, right, right. It just feels so easy like I even if you don't have bits I like the Prince of order. I treat it, right? Like we can be very simple with it So, yeah, this is cool We'll get so this guy will be a dual kit that will have two versions both either a special character blah blah blah leader of the blah blah blah or Generic leader guy, right? So that's fine. Yep Okay Anything else you want to say about this particular leader? No, other than we're getting a dual kit build Rerolling once Jack said who will come first Tyrion or Malarian Tyrion I think Malarian will be the last elf out. It'll be the last elf out of the gate the lord of shadows and spies and mysteries Will probably be the last thing revealed and and he would only show himself if there was like some big narrative move They felt was relevant to do some yes, okay Okie-dokie Next up bolt thrower, right? Yep. Yeah, we actually looks like we have a real bolt thrower And it's and it looks like it's it's the dark elf version, which is like the Reaper bolt thrower that stand up Yeah, but I mean that's kind of what I've been expecting the whole time given the sort of design aesthetic here Yeah Yeah, which is fine. These guys spoiled back in the wrath of the ever chosen narrative Yep, when they talked about like the the bolt throwers fighting alongside the Vinari units that were defending Yeah, Slaanesh is prison. So it's really just been a matter of time Before we we knew we were gonna see these yet Okay, cool good stuff All right bum bum bum Next up cool cool bolt thrower again It's hard to say much about these images because we're looking at silhouettes with like overtly bright suns right behind them uh new Guy single guy with a stick Clearly a small foot hero He got a you almost get a better vision of this guy than than the other folks He's almost visible So that's you know We should it seems like we're gonna be get a nice cross-section of Vinari this time Like the rest of the of the middle of the road stuff and then A nice release of the wind temple Yeah, um So yeah, and by the way this guy I don't think this guy has a staff I think that's a sword And I think yeah, I think you might be right I think that that other thing is in his other hand like it's a or it's a Flippy dangly Thing going up in the air But yes, I think you might be right there because I think that's the pommel up in the air with like a chain And a tassel or you know a chain or tassel with a little icon on the base of a great sword Oh, and I think and I think that this is your replacement of your old Uh Blade master what was the named hero that was like a wizard fighter mage Oh, yeah, sure. Like your lore master the guy who is the lore master the old Like lore master hoeth. I think that that's who this is Yeah, because they were trained in both they had to be a sword master first and then yada yada Yep, and then they got magic and so I think that this is your foot hero for the the tower of hoeth great swords Yeah, sure Okay. Yeah, it's it's hard to tell because there's clearly like stuff going on here that we just can't see because yep He has like uh, he's spinning around his cloak is all out Um, and you see the sun and the moon on the uh on its headpiece Uh, and he has the tassel like the rest of the sword masters Yeah, and he's clearly just a regular small foot hero or like a 32 or some 40 maybe something like that probably I'm so excited for the rest of the nari like to be fair Um, I could if if if there's a competitive list in there. I may just build a lumina venari list Yeah, I mean get rid of all the temples Yeah, because I don't think that like the venari should hit for you If it was just they do in in general they do and just there wasn't enough previously Right, so now the farter we're getting into this There may be enough of an army that I can carve out in the middle of all the weird stuff. Gotcha Just pitching right down the middle vanilla only cheese pizza for me. Thank you. I got it right on That's how you like your high elves. Uh, and then you can have a bunch of different types of keys Okay, yes, sword masters. Um, I love it. I hate the hell the the random head stuff I wish these looked like the lower math the sword master from um From the warband like this has more like crap on their heads than the other one on their heads. Yes I will also say it feels like the crap on their heads would be really easy to cut away Like you could just snip here and here and here and I may on these four like tiny little points And then they just have the traditional like fan helm right You see I'm saying like if you left the middle point the fan helm piece, right Then well, we'll see. I like the big tassel on the head. I don't like fans So we'll that I don't know what that's gonna lead me so but I can do head swaps head swaps are not an issue Yeah, sure sure sure Uh, yeah cool cool sword master unit again like this has been inevitable, right? and yeah, and I look at sword masters as somebody point out our uh, our venari not water temple which I can buy as well because they're probably the the elite venari right because what we've had so far is like the basic troops as The venari and then the all of the temple stuff has been elite and so now it looks like what we're getting is we're starting to get Possibly with the sword masters an elite venari troop Mm-hmm. Yeah, which is cool. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. These these are the least surprising unit, but it's still good to see them Uh, I'm glad they're they're great swords are great too. Like these guys are Uh wielding some significant great swords like look at how far out this sword goes, right? Yes, it is far than he is. Yeah, like they've got they've got a full like Six foot sword there or something or you know, whatever it's it's significant. They are truly great You are great. Yeah, indeed Uh, all right. So I think that's uh, that's it Let's let's see. Do we have wait? Hold on one more. Oh, no, there was one more. Sorry. Yep one more alternative fox sculpt Uh, no, no the other one is the jumping twins here. Okay. Yeah I thought we had an alternative fox sculpt in there too. Uh, not in the images. I've got so that's fine um At any rate the jumping twins. Yeah, like this looks like another celeste model. I assume, right Or something like that Doesn't it look like there is a person on the ground here and then another person leaping over them? Maybe unless that's not a person on the ground. That's the question. Um, because it looks like there is somebody like Like standing on a single foot Sure. Yeah, this person certainly this is definitely a person up in the air leaping with a glaive Right, like they've got this big two in a glaive. You can see the outline of it clearly They have a big crazy helmet with like six little fans on it So they're they're clearly up in the air The question is is this just a bunch of junk, right? Like just built up junk like the He looks like that's done. Um, I mean maybe it Maybe it could also be a big weird headdress or something or backpack thing or yeah As somebody points out this could be the alternative to the uh to the mangler squig Yeah, absolutely like they like doing these paired type of models where there's a lot of motion in them Right. Um, and so like this guy could be this could be a little hunched guy with another dude leaping over top of them I think of like celeste or yes, you mentioned the mangler You know what it could be we've seen the the in the vanari the mix of the the sun and moon imagery This could be a sun and moon pairing Oh, that's an interesting case. Yeah. Yeah, because I I made a comment about on the bottom about the sun Uh headdress and so I wonder if the top has like the crescent maybe Um of the moon for the headdress on the top. I mean, that's what that's what the shape is generally. Yeah Yeah, so it'd be interesting that that this could be a sun and moon pairing for the for the vanari like a vanari foot hero pair Gotcha Yeah, uh Oh the alt fox. Yes. I didn't pull out the alt fox. Sorry. Yes. There's another. Yeah, there's another fox image. That's fine He's it looks like the same thing, but he's up in the air straight up So maybe the non Named version of the because this guy's like the lord of the seventh wind or something like that Right. I don't have a way to have a word quickly. So he doesn't have a hurricane underneath him Right. He just has like little ribbons and stuff. Yep Uh, so it'll be interesting to see actually see this army But the relevant part here is let's just bang through this again. Okay, just so we can really drive this home This is some individual model one. Yep. Yep sword master unit two. Yep, right? Yep Uh, this hero guy, maybe maybe our lore master dude three, right? Yep bull thrower four Okay, uh, this guy like so hero dude five the hero dude who has a special character alternate sculpt And then sun six Right. Yep. Rewriders seven Okay, uh, and then cloud monkey king Goku elf Eight. Yep. Okay. Yep. Uh, and then fox Fox spirit nine Both both fox spirits. Well, I'm just I'm counting kits at the moment, right? Oh kids Now keep in mind multiples of those are dual kits Yes, multiple we actually have confirmed dual kits, right? So You're talking like doubling the luminous line at least. Yeah. This is nine kits. We know about Right. Yeah. Yeah and Uh And then like I said, some of those have multiple war scrolls. Oh, there's there a banner bearer in there I missed. Sorry. Okay 10 if I missed a banner bearer. I'm sorry. I must have missed a banner dude Like I said guys, I apologize. I had like 30 minutes. I tried to get everything together. Yeah Uh, so yes, so let's say 10 kits Uh Plus and then again multiples of those are dual scrolls, right? Like we know the fox guy has a dual scroll We know the hero on antelope Whatever monster thing, uh, the really badass sculpt. I mean that dude is Mind-blowingly good. He's got two Right, so we're talking about like Let's say nine or 10 new kits with at minimum 12 new Scrolls That's a Huge expansion of the army Like that is truly a doubling of the army easily. Yes. Yeah, like it's crazy. It's simply crazy. Yeah So, I mean if we don't get a new book who knows Well, and so let's talk about that because yes as of right now It specifically says all of this Is coming in the book, right? The narrative sees the luminous realm lords taking the fight to negash And after the sepid clash the mortal realms will never be the same again, right? So it specifically says like okay, these guys are coming in Broken realms to techless, which I don't think any of us Predicted techless would be booked to in our prediction show. So they my book. I've I predicted book three By the way, you had techless in the mix. Yes, we both. Yeah, I had My I'm wondering if this is a four book series Because we're moving at a different clip than you expected. Well, we did like left turn here, right? Which is like the part that I agree that I agreed on is that I said book two, they're gonna left turn us It's not going to be like more on the Marathi story and and what's going on with it with sigmar versus them I knew they were gonna left turn us off the main story And I just didn't expect this I would not have which I've seen many people share the meme of moon night walking down into the temple going Where are you stupid nerd and saying but then replacing the word with negash? Like negash come out here, uh, which I love. That's a great. That's a great call. It was obviously techless is all about the moon, right? Yeah, and uh I love the idea of techless walking in there and be like listen nerd I had enough of you That's great. You've broken this realms enough. Yeah, that's that's the wrong guy though Like techless is himself the ultimate nerd. So that's a little weird Right. I imagine they just get next to each other and have like some kind of little like punch-up that looks like that Uh, here's my call. You ready for my call? Yeah, sure. I'm ready I think uh, I think Oh, by the way, we're going to talk more about techless in a minute, but before you give your prediction Let's just say this. So techless is fighting negash That's that's the main thrust of the story Yep, we have could you think of more any more larger sign of hubris? Yeah, sure. Go show up these two nerds fighting each other. Yeah, they're both nerds Uh, it's just like the worst I I want like I want some melee to to walk ruser to walk in there and be like, all right, negash Fat enough for this. You're going down brother at any rate, so Yeah, we've got the lubaneth in there And as we mentioned at least a dozen new scrolls Yeah, right. Yep. All right, though. We actually have a fuller list of of who's in there Cities maggotkin flesh eater courts and the oc arc bone reapers. Yep. So basically death not knight haunt Uh, yeah, that's correct non knight haunt death. Yep, non knight haunt death And um and nergal And the cities which I'm guessing the cities is going to be a shyish city one would assume sure I wonder if I'll just do like it'd be neat if they actually just did olfancarn, which we'll talk about in a minute That'd be cool. That was because it was a big city. Yeah, right. Yeah So that'd be a neat city because then you remnants remnants of olfancarn. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely like that'd be cool. Yeah um So I I nergal is clearly your weird spoiler faction, right? We had mentioned that these books always need to have a weird spoiler faction every time there's got to be like Somebody else who shouldn't be here And of course uh teclas is like let's do this take it to the realm of death and nergal's like, yeah Exactly I mean that's going to be the story right because nergal classically like wants to get at shyish and wants to Right to damage the realm. Yes. He wants a foothold in it where he can start spreading life and eroding the nauseous power, right? And It is so funny to me that he would just like be back there being like is that is that elf going in is he going in Is he going in he is okay? Let's go guys. Come on. Let's get him Just like just that's how brave they are, right? Uh, I suspect we're gonna need another uh community article on nergal After this sure absolutely Uh So yes, you're non night haunt death all your solid dead, right? Uh, and then obviously this will give way to introduce the soul flight great words, right? Like we've got such a Such a clear cascade here that like what happens here and gives way to the soul flight So now you ready to predict. I'm ready tom. Give me your prediction Uh, I think uh, I think they're gonna roll in I think luminescence is gonna roll in And they're gonna turn negash to dust I like this idea. I love it. I've been Like somebody needs to get rid of negash that now you have autonomy within the death faction sure sure sure And and this is what could do it Um where like teclas big t rolls in Right in his hubris and actually like pulls it off You know Which we talked about like that was my my narrative move was teclas gets drawn in commits Right, and then slanesh he gets back door and slanesh, you know surprise sure and so My call is that this one is teclas the next one is um You're sigbalt. Yeah Sure Sure, and then you're you're scavin after at the end. Yeah. Yeah. I like I just we haven't been talking about scavin like at all Forever. Yeah, they're not showing up in the story. They're so sneaky. They wait till the end and then boom Take that life here mid. How many more of these do we have to ruin? Right and like who is not gonna want and here's my calls sigbalt's gonna go in and they're gonna be like Yes, slanesh is gonna be free and the scavin's like Like he's who's gonna not want slanesh free. Sure, right? Sure Yeah, I was just getting power. Yeah. Yeah, like I'm wondering if the scavin or the spoiler To slanesh getting free, right And that's when that's where they that's when they release their might is they're like, oh, no I don't want another uh chaos got in the house. Sure. Right. This is my house So this is fascinating to me for several reasons I I honestly legitimately had like and I was wrong here because I said I just thought they'd do another book like they just do lrl too Yep. Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep. And that's because I couldn't see them putting this much of an army Into a broken realms book, but admittedly I had a sample size of one Which is not great to base assumptions off of Right and they as I I should have known because every time you think you've gotten gw pinned down as to what they're gonna do Every time you know, they're gonna zig they zag on you. That's just what happens So I I love the idea. I mean even if negash isn't actually destroyed. Okay Even if he is like so grievously weakened Right because he's been killed Yeah, like he's been killed plenty of times even in the aos lore. He's been killed multiple times like this guy goes This guy hits the mat pretty often. Okay, sure he like There are lots of people in this in these realms who have put negash in the ground uh But He always comes back. I mean, that's a trick, right? So, yeah, that's fine. Great. I have no problem with that I think it'd be great to put him into like a weakened state where he's just where he's just like he's been removed from the board Right and a great whether destroyed dead and capacitated vastly weakened Unable to assume a corporeal form whatever Oh, do you want to uh, you just saying that made me realize I know what my call is. Okay, go uh, he uh He shows up with a bunch of the soul trapping crystals that they used on Flanash and then he walks up Negash, well, that'd be cool That'd be cool. Yeah Great I'd love to see him off the board because it'd be interesting to see like that would be cool to give rise That would be an interesting way to give rise to this old like grave lords where sort of the vampires step up and they're like Well, guess what folks? We're in charge now. Okay, because we're vampires, right? And uh, and of course, I'm sure that uh arcan and catacross who both seem quite loyal To negash would be, you know, pretty un Hip to that idea And like the flesh eaters were always off doing their own thing anyways. They're like right animal the muppet version of Death, right? They're they're barely constrained Sure So, you know, like they would just spin off on their own in a heartbeat. So At any rate, I think that'd be a cool narrative. Uh, I can't they said there's going to be battalions for everybody in here I assume we'll also have other rules as well. Probably some will be minor battalions. Some will be like sub faction stuff Yeah, uh, this is where they say there are also war scrolls for a swath of new lumeneth realm lords units Including some we saw earlier in the week and blah blah blah Okay, we got to get moving though, man, because there is so much in this We've been we've been on just lumeneth the whole time because there was But they're talking I don't know why continue. Boom new daughter's a cane book. We knew this was coming We've said it for a while. It had to be because the the daughters had gotten so scattered Uh, so we've got a new daughter's book. Love the cover by the way. Looks great. Um, I wish the coloration on the snake was a little different But no, it's fine Uh, great awesome book and they get endless spells Okay, cool They dropped those endless spells and I was like, oh really? Yeah, sure. Yeah, I really love the the The iron heart of cane Yeah, yeah and the spell. I mean, that's what it is. That's the iron heart of cane. It's yeah, the fist Uh, the big serpent is super cool and uh more swords. I assume we love floating swords dangling stuff Uh, so fantastic Uh, let's just say this here, um If you like your magic tripping with blood as you cast across the battlefield, frankly, who doesn't you love the blood rack viper Bail with blade wind. Sorry blade wind and heart of fury I love blade wind getting an old fall out. Yeah, so clearly damage spell Damage spell probably purely Some damage that probably also has some kind of buff of like utility effect pure you pure buff effect Yep Yep, right like just endless spells kind of work in a certain way and that's what it feels like is going to be the situation Yeah Yep Okay, uh, it says the battle tome uh and then the spells come out at the same time as their sworn enemies the heat Knights of slanesh so originally these were supposed to clearly be They were supposed to all drop together with the I don't think so I think that that I think the canines were supposed to be farther out and they were just like They just kind of when they pushed slanesh back they kind of said well, let's just put them out together Like I think they were supposed to fall over very closely on each other previously like end of january beginning of february Right to kind of like give them want to beat and then do the next one They don't generally put out multiple Tomes like that right away unless there's like a natural pairing like I understand in 2019 We had two sets of two tomes. This is not like it's unprecedented It's just I think they like to give stuff room to breathe but hey, who knows here you go Maybe it was always planned and maybe they all move back together Either way, uh, it's going to be an expensive week for me is what I'm hearing here because obviously I'm going to pick up this new book And obviously I'm going to pick up these endless spells. I mean, we've all got to give our tide to Cain here to marathi I play both sides of the fence when it comes to to this. All right Anything else you want to say about daughters? Uh, great. Let's see how gnar will be fixed Let's move on. What's it look like now? Who knows who knows? Yeah, we'll we'll get to that later. All right Direcasm once again, I'm just gonna play this here and let this mute. I'll just leave this on in the background We're gonna get to these figs in a moment Uh, so tom your reaction to this complete revealed underworlds warband I'm so glad that we're getting castlevania the battle tome castlevania. You are darn, correct Absolutely, correct Uh, granaldi says the big question is are we getting new dock units? No I mean, they would have said it there other than the other spells It's it's a standard like we update your tome and give you some endless. That's what it's going to be Yep, it's probably what nerve all get eventually too. Yeah, exactly Uh, so we've got an is kerthborn and go wrath the enforcer Uh prince duval And vellis von fein. All right. These are so let's just let's just let's just get to the images So I like so I love dug steak dug dug two plus stuff to take on this where he said So it's so helpful of them to put uh, just make you a box full hero heroes, right? Like box of vampire lords Exactly. It's going to be the best deal on characters in in the world Uh, we've already seen her. We've already you know went on and on about her and how amazing she is Uh, let's okay. So then we've got the enforcer guy Oh my god, this dude is so good like this giant mace dude. Look at this dude Uh, or whatever it is because it's a whole polar mace situation He strikes me as a little bit Long in the tooth He has big fangs. Ha ha ha. Yes. I don't know. I mean like you've got to scale stuff up when you're this small I get it. I understand I understand but like it's they're like walrus vampires He's got long teeth. Ha ha ha. Uh, I love his look. I love his face. I love how static and stoic He is like we I love dynamic models and I'm good They do that a lot but at the same time this dude looks great. He looks very disapproving Right as as meff said meff was like disapproving vampire man is awesome and I agree. Yeah Uh, this it's true vampire lord with wings. Okay, cool. Nice. I'm glad we finally have a good skull for this That isn't just like a dude filling his cloak up is what it looks like Uh, this guy's simple scaled back, but I really like it. Love the hair going straight up. Love the wings Like again, I have zero issue with this dude. Thank you. It's fantastic, but this guy Oh, buddy This guy I Love This guy the skull armor plate on his chest like Okay, tom This is you know that I'm gonna get this guy and put like a non vampiric head on him I gotta put like a happy head on him, but this is cap when right here. You know that right like this is how I picture him Yeah, like he's got that armor. I got a switch heads, but this This is yeah, you need to you have like a farmer with a straw hat. Absolutely By the way, what Vince is referring to for those that don't know we have an ongoing dnd marathon Uh set in the world of uh of ebron and he plays a paladin of bull Yes, and so, uh, but but he's like this, uh, like this He's a very yeah, he's a very nice person. Yeah, he's a good good country folk. Yes At any rate, uh Yeah, I love this dude. Obviously we had seen a silhouette of this dude This guy blew me out of the water man and that paint job is top notch Uh It's good. I don't know what else to say Although then I absolutely am in love with this model and cannot wait to buy this whole warband I mean every single one of them is good every single one of them. This is my favorite warband. They've ever released period Oh, okay. Yeah, that's like this hit me so hard. It's so good Okay Like it's to be clear like it's very like I I want to enjoy this and I want to take delight in this and I love that people are taking delight in this It hurts So badly Because this is what we call pitching down the middle for vampires Yeah, I I mean, here's exactly hold on. There's nothing weird here This is exactly what the vampire community Has always wanted from war hammer vampires. And so now it looks like we're gonna get the epitome of vampires Of like what they've always wanted. That's what I wanted for high elves And so it's hard for me not to be bitter when I look at this and go, I'm glad I'll say this I'm glad they got the army they wanted Well, as I guess I was actually explaining this to my wife over the weekend when we were away I was talking about you're on we And I explained to her that tom wanted weird vampires and Normal elves and they gave him the old switcheroo They gave him weird elves and normal vampires And it was exactly the opposite. It's just they crisscrossed Right. Yeah, and like I just I don't Yeah, like you know what like Again, they're a great vampire model. Do not misunderstand me. I don't it's not like I don't like them I actually think they're perfect for the van for the community that loves vampires. Yeah You were just hoping the opposite way around No, I I wish they would have done this for elves. Gotcha Well, I wish they that's something's got to be weird. This is like we got we got to get weird And what was the weird elves, which is fine. You know my uh, you know my you know my motto. Let's get weird So this is this is it right here With the elves. All right Now let's talk about this thing that we're all very excited for which is it which is Tom while I roll the video, would you like to just talk about how happy you are that you were right? I don't need to sorry. I got to scroll the video back Twitter has twitter has informed the world. So I don't need to gloat Okay, got it. Very good Uh All right, so This is Ulphin karn, uh the city that's been and I love this trailer how they introduce the city and like the the art of it of like this Stripping and everything like this is This is top notch right here. Well, this is everything. Yes. This is everything that I wanted all of it Yep, uh, I assume new zombies Here right because these are clearly going to be our normal guys Like maybe zombies. Let me scroll back through the video. So here's clearly our leader folks Right, because we know we already know that this one's going to be a model. We'll look at in a minute So clearly we're going to get all three of these, right? Yeah, we'll get this vampire conan king and this other is Uh hench lady right here Okay, now we're just going to scrub blood. So here we've got some kind of you know new skeletons and little like probably little, um Uh Little like vampire People I've the the word is escaping me for what I mean, but little little vampires. You know what I'm saying. Yes Yes, they have a name. I cannot think of it at the moment. I apologize Not familiar, uh, yes. Anyways, yeah, it's fine spawn vampire spawn spawn. Thank you. Yes. That's yeah That's what I was looking for I was looking for spawn. Yes I was using the dnd term. Thank you, Tom. Yeah, uh Do we have any skeleton man with a big axe? By the way, this is a rumor engine Yeah, yeah, like I know it's just a piece of art, but we have the piece of art of this exact glaive The thralls is also a good one. That'd be fine. Yes thralls would also be fine. Thank you everybody Uh, so like this dude is this is a real dude with the sword and The glaive because we saw him in the in the rumor engines Yeah, uh, so that's cool this again I like being able to put this together show us the cool art introduce the cool narrative Like I get it. I can get that like, okay, you're gonna have a couple these will be your more elite dudes in quest This guy will be probably a special monster like cool beans down with that Uh, and then we get into these dudes where they're talking about the citizens Right have been pressed into work and they all have like you can see how all the citizens have pieces of Graveyard and gravestone and and stuff like that on their back Yeah, although like it makes me wonder if like the one zombie like remember the uh, The one weird undead sylvaneth that we saw Like in the one image I'm wondering if those are actually going to be like zombie sylvaneth stuff because of the area of the city you that will And we'll talk about this with the map. Yeah, sure And uh, so I'm excited because this hopefully will herald the way for new zombie sculpts that are cool Um, so that's great Oh, yes, and somebody said thrall on the wall is also a rumor engine. Yes. I think you're right. It is. Yeah Uh, so I'm excited for new like they almost look like hangman zombie type of type of things which will be interesting Like they will the figs will have which is the location in the city. Yeah Yep Yep, uh, and then you've got your four heroes, right? So, uh, which is this one is your vampire hunter You've got a ko over here Uh, some kind of uh, Woodelf dude, yep Or wanderer dude, and then I have no idea what big I don't know what the big guy here is Maybe an orc I have no idea So some kind of big, um So, yeah, those are going to be our four heroes that ship with it and then obviously again We'll we'll still have rules to use, you know, a ton of other heroes Uh, so yeah, great stuff cursed city of oof and karn And yep, so we have a nice barbarian here. Yep. Um, it looks like maybe a kernaughty hunter Uh, right what are you talking about the little guy with the horns? No, he's too thin. He's too little He doesn't have he doesn't have tree parts I mean, he hasn't no no no no no the kernaughty warband from underworlds Oh the kernaughty warband. Yeah, maybe I understand what you're saying. Yeah, sorry not not a Kernaught hunter a kernaughty Hunter, yeah, like the kernaughty. Those are very similar. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably and then the witch hunter Video model that we've seen and a a KO hero you can see it with his uh You can see the like the respirator thing on the back with the uh sky The light sky hook. Mm-hmm done. Yep. Yep. I painted a whole bunch of those. Absolutely uh Yes, somebody said yes, it's kernaughty. He's got goat legs. Okay, cool. I didn't catch his goat legs Uh, maybe that is a big over. Some people said that's a big over. I could see that that makes sense Uh, obviously we've got another rumor engine here in little hook arm guy Our little undead shovel master here. Uh, and then not only so we were when we were speculating on the rifle I did not expect the underslung bolt launcher into it. But yes, both rifle and uh stake launcher is cool. Yep. Yep. Uh, so Uh, great great stuff. Uh, these this dude looks I mean like beyond amazing. I cannot wait to paint him Like both of these models by the way are incredible and once again that noose Uh imagery he will be one of the older ones by the way So we have the guy with the shovel is one of the overlords From the website. So if you go to the website for that's where I was gonna go next let's let's go visit He has gore slaw the grave keeper and he is one of the five Named bad guys, uh, the overlord of olfancarn Interestingly, it tells us we have Not five or six, but eight agents of defiance. We have eight heroes that are coming in this box Yeah, and you can kind of like they're all just generic outlines here But yes, you're right. There are eight total. Yep So we see for walking into the story because like what it's likely going to be as you build your Warband, right? You build your four. You're going in with out of the eight. So yes, we've got our first guy Jesse Darnock, right? jelson jelson jelson dark which interestingly I love the call out that he's x order of azir Like remember how I was talking about the army being order of azir Yeah, um that he's like he is a prior order of azir that's been kicked out Because of something sketchy Um, I mean they watched castlevania like season one on netflix or something And we're like yep that that's what we need to be doing that one. Yes. Yep Yes, oh So then down here Sure down here in the cursed city art Uh, you can see Uh, a couple of other both, you know heroes and bad guys around or whatever, right? So these four by the way I think are all bad guys Uh, yeah, let's bring up the images. I have images for this Okay, yeah Yeah, I actually have little cutouts of this hold on one of the four is is the olfancarn very clearly the uh, the The named bad guy that we have from olfancarn one of the five So there we go. I brought up the left two in a nice big image so we can we can see them The left two. Okay. So those are not so the the guy that we know is not there The guy that we know is on the right But the the two on the left is interesting because it looks like we have a vamp higher a vamp, uh Like a old vizier light guy with a cat. Yep Some probably city guard um Which by the way, that's the same glaive that the burning skeleton guy has Interesting. I wonder if that's the uh, I wonder if he's a dark elf Well, I mean it's my my point was more that this might be him before he became what he is now Which is burning skeleton, man Right. Yep. No, that's like I assume this is the before image Um burning skeleton man that has this big glaive is the same dude, right? Yeah Because he looked like he was in if you look go back and look at his armor that little bits of armor He has left on him. It looks kind of like this And stuff like that. I assume vizier guy doesn't look like this anymore. He now looks way way worse, right? Yep um, and uh, and then the or other image Where are the other one? Here it is. Sorry. Let me bring up the other image. There we go Uh So obviously we have mr. Shovel Knight guy, right over here with his Shovel and his sickle now that we know he no becomes a bad guy again These look like he doesn't look as absolutely insane here. So I assume this is like the pre version. Yes The the pre first pre corrupted. Yeah Yep, and then the other looks like a warrior that is now clearly a vampire. Sure sure Absolutely So yeah, I mean We know so we know we're gonna have eight heroes total Uh, and then I'll put these away Uh, and then in the in the bad guys your overlords. I'm so sorry. You've got five different overlords To reveal you remember what uh, do you remember what mordheim was used to be called? The city of the damned Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, I mean that's this has that sort of like castlevania mordheim-esque field. Yeah, right And yeah, you're as you mentioned you've got sky docks that clearly the ko wants to retake, right? Yep Uh, yeah, so the locations in the city are the sky docks the vell alton sky docks Then there were the hangman's cops, which was a bat-infested site of a former sylvaneth embassy So the the the sylvaneth zombies that we saw with like the roots growing through them Is probably from that area. Um, we have the corpse gardens Which uh, the gorslaw the gravekeeper oversees the frightful charnel pits and graveyards So that's the the guy the model that we got So he's the boss guy from from there And then we have the shadowed crypt halls haunting music and screams echo within these vaults The clot which is a canal clogged by dried gore That's home to many carrion horrors and then finally the guy scale No one ventures to dare Dares to venture near the gates except for the spectral bed. I'm wondering if that's something that is like lumenath banshee Style because the runes are very um, healthy. Yeah, sure. Yep, absolutely. And there's four other locations. They obviously haven't turned on yet You can see the little right that's for them. Yep For this i'm so excited. Yeah, this is awesome. This is a great drop I'm interested to see what lessons they learned from Blackstone and brought and imported here. Yep Well, I mean one of the things that they learned from blackstone. I mean, I'll say this is that You can really keep digging into a place over and over and over again and going deeper And like having a real evolving narrative, right? Because the ultimate bad guy that you Like one of the big bad guys in the end of it comes back from earlier in the thing after you had killed him, right? Like he's he's back again. So I would suspect you're going to see a lot of that same evolution here Uh, where they, um Where they have this evolving story, right? Like these overlords, this isn't like all of the overlords is my point, right? You've got these bad guys. There can be others, right? Yep And it's interesting that we have eight locations, right? So, um, we very much could have Five bad guys in the box And another three expansions. Yeah Uh, so this is pretty cool. Um the uh like In addition to of course all your monsters, right? You'll have like five cool death characters. You'll have eight cool order characters. Hopefully Fingers crossed we get neat aos rules that stick around for a couple years with these dudes Uh, maybe that hopefully this time we like Thought about it a little more in advance because obviously with the last ones When the first warhammer quest came out, it's important to understand how nascent Aos was when that first warhammer quest came out, right? And I know we had to I mean, we didn't even have a zene Yeah, I mean we like when the first one came out. We had nothing tom, right? We were a year into Aos and the first ghb hadn't even come out yet, right, right? This is my point, right? And we didn't know anything about any of the armies There's still probably a lot of stuff even in their minds that was rather a more fs 16 It was at the end of the first year of aos, right? So My point is is that like I think they ended up giving us rules for those We got cool rules for like the excelsior war priests and the tenepril shard and And stuff like that, right? And it ended up heralding a lot of the zene stuff that would come right like the zangor and those kinds of things Which was all cool Uh, but at the same time The there was a lot of stuff that either didn't really go anywhere And I always said it was kind of like the magic set future site Where it's not like every one of those future site cards is necessarily going to show up in a future set It was more of them experimenting with design, right? Well, the myth believer say looks like she could fit right in the lumeneth army Sure Like she looks tame compared to most lumeneth Well, and you could see where they sort of involved the aesthetic slightly and some of it ended up in like the canite shadow stalkers and like, you know There was there's aesthetic markers there. They ended up playing with Right, but they clearly hadn't like zeroed in on all of their design yet, right um Because when they would have been designing the miniatures for warhammer quest would have been so far back before 2016 right so uh My thought is I'm excited about this one because now We really know what aos is like, right? We've got the world We've got phil kelly in charge of this awesome ever expanding narrative like we are doing a You know this really really great expanding story that is like framing the releases like we are banging on all cylinders here Right, right And so if they went to this new place, hopefully at the same time they were working hand in hand You know the teams didn't even work like they do now then Right, like there were different the teams weren't split up like how they were they didn't have people assigned to the same roles It was still much more like You know split up or whatever Yep and so uh My very distinct hope is now because they have teams working like they do that they'll talk they share back and forth a lot There's a lot of collaboration between everybody like they have really improved their internal processes And my hope is all these guys have cool rules to be brought into certain armies Like they show up with keywords already on them for certain armies. You know what I'm saying? uh I think that would be Chef's kiss like that dude who says former order of azir I just I want to see him have like whenever he gets a war scroll published or whatever I just want to see it have cities of sigmar on the the war scroll Right, and he's just a hero you can put in a city's a sigmar army How awesome would that be it'd be amazing and like again He has there's no way he's gonna be this superhero on the battlefield because that's not what he's meant to be He's like a close-up and fighting guy. He's like a witch hunter. Yeah, yeah But still he's hunting vampires and uh, he's hunting vampires and wizards Uh now I want to flip to some predictions around warhammer quest and model stuff We're gonna get we've said one. I think I think there's going to definitely be new zombies They'll be they won't be just zombies. I think they don't want to use just Zombies right because that's such an area of a concept. They're going to be like hangmans blah blah blah or grave stone Corpse haulers, you know, whatever. Yeah, whatever. Right. There'll be something like that. I think that's slammed up Right vampire thralls and the and burning head glaive guy. We know he's in there Right. Yep. Okay What else are we getting Tom in a city called Wolfenkarn or Wolfenkarn or however you're supposed to pronounce that are we just getting some werewolf somewhere? Yes, the boss is the as a werewolf. He's not a vampire. I think that's the I think that's the left hand turn of Wolfenkarn Is that you're being set up to think he's a he's a vampire and he's actually a werewolf sure So we're talking about let's just go back to the the trailer here. We're talking about this is a sensible guy Yes, the wolf. Yeah, and he in his name the bad guy's name is the wolf, right? And so we're finally going to get our werewolves, right? Like that's what it says Like the city was laid waste by slown Slown the ravinor and the only chance to revive was to create a pact that was that with a potential savior A pact that the city would regret forever and I think what they did was like they embraced the wolf I I hope you're right. I hope we get to see like I just want this to be Castlevania monster town Like really that's what I want. Okay Yeah, just bring me That box I think that I think this is going to be Castlevania the box Castlevania warhammer edition. Yeah, absolutely, right? Yeah Um, I think that sounds fantastic way more excited about this than the soul Like this is just interesting like I want vampires. I like vampires Sure I don't know that I want a whole army of vampires, but I'll do a city adventure with vampires Yeah, like I would have made some vampire models. Yeah. Yeah, and this would let me do that Um, I suspect this will be the same quest in Blackstone Fortress said if we've seen the little cardboard tiles He set up you pick randomly And I hope the designers I I had found a somebody who had produced a bunch of 3d stl files to print out the tiles Yeah I hope somebody Develops those for this if they use the same tile system. Absolutely. We have a bunch of 3d terrain like that like This I I had a lot of fun with first warren requests. I love the models out of there Uh, I just want to play it today. They've been bugging me about playing the original warren silver tower today Yeah, it is by the way It is a really great game if you do have younger gamers or kids you're trying to get into it I know I've heard lots of people like I know tom you've used it that way But that's you are far from the only dad I've heard say I used warren requests to get my you know to have a game that I could play with my kids Which is great. And by the way kids love Spooky weird stuff like this, right? Like when I was a kid and was playing castlevania about the age of your kids I was like this stuff is amazing. Like, you know, that was that was that was bagging on all cylinders for me Right. So and it's something they relate to again like a halloween town is something they relate to way more than silvert a It's a tower bubblegum demons. Sure. Sure. Absolutely And I mean the whole thing of like well, is that if it's a werewolf or whatever Is that really death like that's how kids think because again, it's they're like No, those are all halloween monsters that you said that are at the halloween store So they're all they all fit together, right? There's just kind of this natural alliance of them Uh, yeah, I can't wait to see what we get out of here as far as both clearly the zombies will probably be our our little Scudlers or whatever they were right the little little spider eight armed goblins that I cannot remember their name Uh, so I think that's going to be fantastic Uh, obviously all these new overlords we're going to get will be awesome death heroes that I absolutely want to see But you'll be able to bring into these other armies Same with the heroes, but what I hope this portends Is just like when we got a few zangor In silver tower and then eventually we got the zangor as part of the army That we get whatever these cool zombies are that they eventually become a release that we get Right if we get for the for the bulk dudes of your minions I want to see as many of those as possible this time properly integrated it into armies Right, that's what I'm saying Does that make sense? Yep, okay I'm excited. I want to see um All of that is stuff that interests me. Yeah, right on right on Uh, you know battletoe halloween town or whatever I'm I'm all about so Uh This to me is the was first of all once again, Tom. Well done on calling quest. Secondly, this is the best case scenario I'm so glad it wasn't like battle flea gothic or something like that Like I'm sorry if you're a fan of battle flea gothic. I'm sure your time will come But this was very exciting to me like this is everything I wanted in a new quest And I hope it's like a double size box. Yeah, man. It's not like the thin uh I know I hope it's like the um like the Like the big heavy. Yeah. Yeah, like indomitus type of packing the indomitus style or renegade or, you know, whatever Just plastic just all the plastic. Yeah, I am so excited Uh, really where they could go with this is just about you know endless because They can introduce anything they want here. They can introduce stuff that will be for aos and stuff that's never meant to be an aos Right, but I think of like the the four capital. I think of is like the zote Guy they did. Yeah, like we're not getting a zote army probably anytime soon I would I wouldn't say never because you know never is a long way but They clearly have no intentions of immediately making a zote army, but it was cool because they got to do a zote Right, they got to do the now, but again, some of that stuff can go in especially like the Uh, your machine man dude or whatever You know that the ai sent you machine dude from the original blackstone fortress Like he can go in a depth of mechanics army. They fit is my point, right? All of those original heroes fit into their their army So now if you want to use them now, are they good? And that's a different discussion I just want to have I don't care if they're good. I don't need the rules to be, you know That hot. I just want them to be doable Right. Yeah, that's all I'm asking Give me the word so if I choose to play with them. I can't that's it. Yeah, that's it All right. Well, that's everything from today Uh, very sad. We didn't see a full breakdown for soul-like grave lords. It's coming I mean, we'll see it probably at the big Well, they said this is the next couple months. We already predicted that it would be april May for grave lords. Yeah And so what that means is that of course, this isn't going to release They'll have another one of these preview shows in march for the adepticon show that's not going to happen The march april and if that's where you're going to see the grave lords. That's where you're going to see Uh, anything else that you know the next the next broken realms book. Um Yeah, make sense. Absolutely Uh, I really uh, I I mean and I'm okay with that We got a little taste of them. We're getting some really awesome vampire and death stuff here Right because I'm clearly what's going to be in quest and what's going to be in the underworld's warband So I'm I'm good. I have to say this is the most excited of stuff that I all generally felt I was going to buy In a while imagine imagine a dual box So after teclis the teclean folks kill negash Yeah of white and darkness. Yep Uh of the vampires going back after the lumeneth and so then you have a Like a lumeneth uh vampire box dual box release sure sun and shadow Sun and shadow. Yeah, sure. Yeah, there you go brilliance and something brilliance and brokenness brilliance and blood Brilliant and blood. There you go at any rate Yeah, like and I'm okay with them kind of being like no, no, you know, it's coming It's fine and then doing a second preview for that later because this was a lot And when I look at the next couple months, I'm like, well, yes I'm going to buy all this linesh stuff in their tome and I'm going to buy the daughter's a cane thing Because that's for my army and their endless spells. I'm definitely picking up this quest thing I'm definitely picking up that underworld to our band like I mean that is banging on all cylinders for me And it's rare. You know how little stuff actually motivates me to purchase generally Something has to be really cool for me to go Yes, I definitely want that and and they managed to hit every single one of them Except for the LRL stuff, which I continue to be fine with. It's just I'll run the army for me. So there you go All right, folks. Well, there you go. Did we miss anything? Is there anything that you felt? We didn't discuss enough that you did the you caught in one of the videos that we didn't mention Drop it, of course down below in the comments Really appreciate it For all of you out there watching. Hey, thank you so much for stopping by this is really fun Sorry, we were a little delayed and didn't do this right after the actual reveal show this morning As I mentioned, I got home 30 minutes before we kicked this off and I haven't been home since 30 minutes after we ended the show on Wednesday But this was a lot of fun. Tom. Thank you very much. Tell your wife. Thank you for letting you have some forgiving time off today For all of you out there. Thank you so much for watching. Don't forget to hit like Subscribe if you haven't already the hitting that like button really helps other people find the show And we really appreciate it. So just click that little button on your way out It's the simplest of things to do and it means the world to us. So all of you Thank you so much. Everybody. 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