 once again, welcome to a very special episode of Esoteric Atlanta. We have Cody back from Mystery Archives. You guys loved it the first time he was here. So I'm so happy to have him back. And we actually have his cousin, not his brother, even though they look just alike. His cousin, Brett with us. And Brett is an illustrator and animator and artist who does a lot of Cody's artwork on his videos. And he's going to be doing the artwork for a special project over the Sally House that Cody and I have been working on. We spoke about it in our last episode. So that is in the works right now, guys. And so I wanted to bring these guys on so we can kind of chitchat about it so you guys can get excited about the project that is coming up. How are you guys doing tonight? This evening afternoon. Doing good. We're doing pretty good. Awesome. Don't look alike. I have a male cousin on my mom's side of the family, my cousin Robert. I don't know if he's watching or not, but we Robert and I were like nine years apart, but we look very, very, very similar. Like we look and his older sister, he was also my cousin and my little sister look a lot alike. So DNA is just funky like that. It's super, super weird. You know, we're all on my mom's side of the family. We're all like blonde hair blue. I was a little German babies, but you know, so we're going to get started though, because we kind of talked about this off air, but I told them to hold it because I wanted to get to film this. So we had a question for Cody before we get to the Sally House regarding one of his latest videos or episodes about the story of Veronica and somebody and I'll let you kind of paraphrase that. I'll put a link to that video in the description box for you guys. So you can watch it, but I'll let Cody give kind of a little two second backstory, but the person wanted to know if you thought that this girl, that this Veronica story is based off of had rabies because some of the descriptions of her possession or whatever you want to call it. It's interesting that they mentioned that because I thought that that could be a possibility. But as far as all the paranormal activity that took place after she had passed away, that was actually documented by law enforcement there in Spain. That's where I'm like, well, you know, there could have been other elements involved. I mean, maybe she did have rabies. I really don't know. But you would think it would have come up in like the medical records or something like that, which as far as I could tell from the research I did, it didn't. So I don't know, maybe there was like a bat somewhere in the house or something. I have no idea. Well, it did happen in like 1990. I mean, even though that was what, 31 years ago, it's not that long ago. Like they would have probably tested if she showed signs of that. They probably would have. They're always looking for. You would think. Yeah. I mean, I think even us who kind of really dig this stuff, we always want to look for the logical explanation first before we jump off the deep end and say it's parent. You know, so I think too, they probably would have tested her for that. They're always looking for a simple explanation. And for people who have dealt with paranormal stuff, you too are looking for a simple explanation. You would much rather be just a sickness than something. Yeah. Well, I mean, rabies would be pretty serious to deal with. I mean, as far as I know, unless they catch it super early or kind of done so anyways, the whole foaming of the mouth, the seizures, the aggression. I mean, I could see why they would be like, did she have rabies? And I'm like, as far as I know, I don't know. She played with a Ouija board right in school in her school. Yeah. As far as I could tell, one of her friends, her boyfriend passed away in a motorcycle accident. So in order to contact him to try and give her some closure, they started messing around with a Ouija board and they actually did it at a Catholic school. Yeah. They did it at a Catholic school and which is a little bit ironic considering, you know, how hardcore the Catholics tend to be on stuff like paranormal and Ouija boards. But apparently they conducted the ritual in the basement. And yeah, long story short, a nun interrupted it. And that's when stuff just kind of, you know, went, went crazy. Imagine the nun walking in and seeing that happen with no context. I'm sure they see that story. I mean, well, from what I understand about Ouija boards, we were laughing off camera guys, because as you know, we're doing a project on the Sally house, which we'll get to. But I said I would rather spend the night in the Sally house and play with the Ouija board. Like I take the Ouija board very, very seriously when it comes to that kind of stuff, because I don't like messing around. You know, I know we talked about that before. We both have had experiences with paranormal phenomenon and there are very good entities, but there's also very, very bad entities. And apparently there's like a way you have to close the Ouija board. Like there's a specific way. Yeah, there is. It's a ritual tool. You don't, you know, you don't open a circle. You're not just going to use a Ouija board and not have a circle, not banish, not do any of these things, you know, before and afterwards. It's just little kids kind of opening a portal to the other world and then just leaving it. That's smart. Dave, the game says if you find the Ouija board game at like Target or something, it's like for ages eight, no. Some demons. I wonder if there's like a, oh, sorry, go ahead. I say, what parents buying their eight year old Ouija board and just like, I mean, that's playing with fire. Like here, kid, have fun with this. Let's see what you can add to our house. I wonder if Hasbro has like a little litigation, like fine text that says Hasbro is not responsible for anything that's brought into this world. That may or may not encourage. Different states obviously are different, how they handle certain situations and where my mom's from in the low country of South Carolina, like Charleston, that whole area. I've got family there too. Yeah. Talk about a haunted city. At one point, I don't know if it's the same now. So if anybody from Charleston is listening, but at one point real estate agents, if you were to sell your house, you had the agent had to disclose to the potential buyers about paranormal phenomenon, regardless of they believe it or not. It was by law. They had to like say like, so, you know, you got a ghost here. You know, like occasionally bleed. Okay. Exactly. Don't worry. If you hear it screaming in the middle of the night, like it's fine. It's fine. It's just fill up the ghost. We actually have a law on the books here in Kansas because when I was buying my house, I had to ask about it because I had heard about that before and I know that it's a law in California. I didn't know it was one in South Carolina, but yeah, apparently it's more common than people might think. Yeah. I had to ask. I was like, so, uh, any violent past or ghost here and my really, you're totally good. You're like, you're just buried on top of Indian burial ground. That's all. Yeah. I don't know if they have to disclose the Indian burial ground, but the demons and I think the violence is only like the last like five years or so. Oh, but I fortunately have done some research on my house totally good built in the 1950s. We're, we're set. Yeah. It's, I would probably actually, you know, it's funny. Like I grew up in a haunted house as a kid. We talked about this last time having experiences and I, where we live now, I feel really good. My boyfriend used to live. I did not feel so good, but if we ever were to move, I probably would get like a medium to come in and just be like, tell me the truth. Right. I want to walk into something that I don't want to deal with. So I feel that. Yeah. Well, the funny thing is, I was saying before we went on, we have so my boyfriend and I own a yoga shop, yoga studio here in Atlanta and it's haunted. We have a ghost there. Um, it's on top of a burial, Sarah, um, a war, a battle site from the civil war. And the ghost, yeah, he doesn't bother me. Like we've had many experiences. He's not bad or anything, but my boyfriend has wanted to get like a Ouija board and like go in there and like, like try to communicate. I'm like, no, you're not doing that with me. Like the ghost and I are good. Like I talked to him when I'm in there, like we're good. We're good. He knows, like, I think I told you what, one morning I was there like five 30 in the morning. I was about to teach you like a really early morning class and I could hear these like boots walking around in the main practice room and I, he was being super active and it was kind of freaking me out. And I literally said out loud, listen, I have to teach a class in like 15 minutes. I only have one pair of pants with me that I have on. And if you show me, I will shit my pants. And then I like, please don't do this to a lady. He's like, oh, that's not very late in that. Exactly. I'm like, listen, you're from the 19th century. You don't want a lady walking around in soiled pants. Be a gentleman about this. You're really freaking me out, dude, because that's hysterical. I can hear you, but I can't see you. Please don't show yourself to me. So yeah, yeah. So yeah, Ouija boards, man. Like just, I just, it's like I was saying before we even kind of hit record. Like I have not heard a single story, not a one fictional or not about anything good coming from somebody using a Ouija board, not a one. It's not a single one. How typical of like a 16 year old teenager to like tragically lose their boyfriend because everything is super tragic when you're that age anyway. Like that was my favorite note in school about Romeo and Juliet. Like is Romeo and Juliet a romantic tragedy or is it literally two hormonal teenagers? Just teenage angst. Yeah, literally what is this story. And so, you know, it's tragic that her boyfriend died of course. I'm not trying to make light of that, but what a typical teenage move to go and like try to like conjure his spirit to talk versus like going to a therapist. What a dream. Instead of going to a therapist. To process the trauma. What a massive extreme. Instead of trying to copy and practice necromancy, that's smart. Yes. You know, but it is, but actually that's a fun question. So if anybody is watching and has had a good experience with the Ouija board because you're correct, I have never heard one. Yeah, I'm not her to one. Everybody's like, don't do it. It was awful. So if you guys are listening and you have a good experience with it, leave the story down in the comment section below because I would love to hear it because I mean, the thing about like good, I feel like good spirits or like loved ones or angels, they don't want to scare. They'll try to communicate with you if they need to. We've all had those experiences and it's peaceful and they're not trying to scare you. So anything that's coming with a game sold by a corporation in America, probably not. Probably evil. It's coming from a mega corporation. Let's think about everything we've learned over these past few years of big corporations. Let's like put two and two together. Probably not a good thing. Really not something you want in your house. I can imagine some Hasbro executives with their big old, you know, Cuban cigars just like, let the demons in. Binding demons in all these boxes. Well, have y'all heard of the rich Robert the doll? The Robert the doll story? Yes. I've actually approached Brett about doing a video on it. Oh, y'all should. Y'all should. Well, do you want me to tell you what I heard somebody read off of that? Sure. Yeah. I don't want to ruin a story on it. No, you're good. So I was watching like a tarot card reader, not a true truth or tarot card, but like a pop culture tarot card reader. And he did that. He did Robert the doll and he did Annabelle, the two dolls. Annabelle's another one. Yeah. They were like, they were like used as what we would call like voodoo dolls almost. But I don't want to say we're doing, I'm doing a deep dive into New Orleans and we're going to get into voodoo. And it's not what people think it is really. It goes deep. Haitian voodoo and New Orleans voodoo go deep. Yeah. Well, they had so Robert the doll and Annabelle were like binding. They were like spirits bound to these dolls and that so that the experiences and it was I think it was Annabelle was the one where it mirrored. So like whatever darkness you had in you, which we all have a shadow side, we all have that it would pull it out of you. And so you were creating your own. No, thank you. Yeah, I know. You made some shit show because the doll was pulling that out of you. And one of them, one of them, it's like doesn't Oh, and Robert was like a, he was kind of remembering correctly. He was like fertility. Like somebody put a spell on him so that anybody that owned him would not be able to have more children. And then he doesn't like children. And so the curse basically. Yeah. And so now now both these dolls are in museums, but apparently like legend goes that if you take a picture of it, take it home, then you bring like an essence of that with you. So no, thank you. Yeah, that's just not smart. There's another one. Yeah, there's another one called Norman the doll. I'm not sure if you've Yeah, it's it's pretty spooky. Basically, the doll was purchased at like a thrift store. And it had a very tragic story to begin with because it was donated by this lady who lost her newborn son in a house fire. And they think that they originally thought that people who purchased this doll, that the little boy spirit inhabited the doll, but it seemed to be something way darker because it started interacting with the house and started tearing things up. Like there's a whole episode of the show called a haunting on it. And it's it's super duper interesting. But I've thought about doing a video on that too. You should as it is. This is common. Like this is a common thing because and spirits sometimes will do that. They'll pretend to be like childlike. We have that with a mouse, don't we? They pretend to be innocent childlike, but they're they're demonic. That's the lawyer defenses. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, if it's evil, it's gonna do that. Like it knows how to do whatever little dirty trick it needs to do, you know, lower your defenses. So manipulate you, make you vulnerable. Absolutely. So and I know I'm there. You guys can go down like a rabbit hole like many years ago before I even started my channel because like literally, I think this is why Cody and I vibe so much last time is because I think deep down we're both weirdos, like deep, deep down. You probably are too. Like we're just weirdos. Like I just like deep down. Like I didn't watch like these YouTubes on like I watched I didn't watch a whole series on people that collect like then you're the porcelain dolls they had in like the early 19th century that girls had like collect them because they had like spirits attached to them. And I mean, I don't listen. I believe in reincarnation. I believe we've lived many lives, but I don't remember if I've lived before, I don't remember the passing and what happens. None of us remember that, but like I'm like, do the spirits just like walk out of their body and go, you know, what would be real fun if I got in this doll? Like that would be imagine just having your soul trapped in a porcelain doll. That sounds absolutely atrocious. Like do I walk into the light and do this again? Or do I just jump into this doll? Or this? I mean, I guess if you're like a creepy stalker-ish kind of a person, it might be ideal, but I think for most of us, it's probably not a good idea. Like think about like all the pervs, the perverts out there that like pass away and they're like, hey, I know, I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to jump into a toy. I think it was optional to leave. I would just troll people. I would hop into the doll and, you know, just be frozen there and then just creep around at him and look back real fast. But if I could leave of my own volition, that would be the way to do it. But if I was trapped there, I would sign up for it. Sounds like a lot of spirits get trapped there, like they're put there. I mean, it's amazing how many, I didn't realize how many people dabble in like magic, black magic or white magic or- There are a lot of them. The occult is everywhere. Well, the thing is, and I shouldn't be surprised because down here in the Deep South, like that's part of the culture down here is because we have so many, somebody asked me in the New Orleans episode, like, why isn't Florida considered part of the Deep South? And I said, you know, it's because it's just culturally, like how it was settled. Like, the Deep South, Florida was still kind of off over here with Spain, and this was kind of an area. You had all the Native Americans, the Africans, and then like, and then plus like the character of the Deep South where it's humid and hot and muggy and like breath itself. And so you had a lot of like, even like white women were learning how to do stuff, you know, that maybe they didn't learn over in Europe that they were learning here in America. And so, so these, these kind of incantations got passed down. And yeah, it's crazy. Like the more you go down the rabbit hole, you're like, you're like, am I the only one who's never cast a spell? Like, am I, am I the only one who's got that? I feel like it might be extra haunted because don't you guys have different burial practices, especially in the more humid parts of the South? So, well, here's the thing about the Low Country. So Low Country is where my mom's family's from, which is like South Carolina, Charleston, down to Savannah, so Georgia. So there's a lot of like Gola people, which would be like kind of like the Creole of New Orleans would be like our Gola. Now the thing about this area is that it's super Protestant. And so the burial practices are a little bit different between Catholic and Protestant. They had to be buried on originally the settlers on hallowed ground. So they had to be attached to a church. But then that changed once like the wars and battles started happening and they had to move the bodies. But the creepy thing about the Low Country with the bodies is because of the way the ground is closer to the sand, the bodies will move underground. So like if you need to like pull up like your great, great, great grandpa because maybe he had a ring that you guys need to get out and you go to people in the body will be like moved. It will shift under the ground because of the way that's freaky. That's creepy like the the wetness in the sand and so I don't know. So all your great grandpa is a vampire. Well, there's a hotel in Savannah. There's a hotel where during the Civil War, they used it as a hospital for actually for the Union troops. So for the North and they guys, you know, like you see all these time back in the 19th century, there's a huge scene and gone with the wind where they would have to amputate arms and legs off of. Yeah, didn't have. They would basically just give them a bunch of whiskey and then start one and then or give them a leather strap or a bullet. Yeah, well, they would give them the right from they would make them drink a bunch of alcohol. And if they're going to have to do the surgery, they would, you know, down a bunch of the whiskey and then they would just smack them in the head with a hammer over and over again until they got knocked out. So get this. So this hotel that's in Savannah today, they had all they like did some renovation and they found like all of these like limbs like in in the floorboards of this hotel in Savannah. And this was modernized. They called the cops because they thought for a second that it was like a serial killer on the loose. But the the bones of course were dated to like the 19th century. That makes a little crazy conclusion. I mean, can you imagine though, like, I mean, that's what you get down here in the South, like you just start digging stuff up and you're like, Oh, look, like a bunch of what is going on with this? I mean, sorry, go ahead. I was going to say I was going to, it's funny you're about to start talking about New Orleans because I had watched your video you did over the Carter brothers, you know, just recently and you know, you're talking about the different burial practices with those, you know, oven graves, right? With those sine oven mausoleums and I like that's pretty cool. I didn't really know about the face one and face two, but that is super spooky. If I'm going to basically have like a bit of a take on that, they're totally vampires. Totally. Listen, with everything we've learned in this great awakening we've been going through, I'm like, nothing surprises me anymore. I'm like, I feel like, yeah, like nothing hit me with your best shot. You know, I mean, people are seeing two sons now. I've talked about it on a couple shows. People are like taking pictures of two sons. We're like, really? Because when I was a kid, we had to make a module of the solar system and they're a one son. So what are they not telling us? I mean, Pluto was still a planet when I had to make my solar system. Exactly. Pluto was a planet and Pluto went away and then Pluto came back and they found a picture of Pluto and Pluto is beautiful and they're like, that's the best revenge body anybody could ever have. That's rebound. So Pluto was a planet for me too. Yeah, but New Orleans, isn't that creepy? So the reason why they do that if you guys have not seen that video is because New Orleans, if you all remember from Katrina, is below sea level. It's below sea level. So when you have all these like burial pots and you have a huge hurricane like Katrina and it pulls things up, all of a sudden, grandpa was going to go to the Mississippi River. It seems like economical the way they do that, but I could not imagine going to change out between phase one and phase two and seeing like your Milos bones. It would be spooky. It would be, I would hope they contract someone. Yeah, the smell would be horrendous. The bones and the dust are like there together for many generations. Like all that DNA is just kind of there hanging out together. Like that's just, it is, if you really think about it a lot, it is kind of, I mean, it's economical. It's saving space, but yeah, it may as well just turn them into bricks. Just build a castle with them. I just imagine like you have your school right? And you know, you end up going after phase one and they move, it's kind of shove you back and your skull ends up being next to like the pelvis of your great-great-grandmother or something. Think about like old school, like for women, you know, we typically in the West, we, and for most cultures, we, I know some cultures are a little different, but women become a part of the man's family. Like they take the man's name. So if you're in a family tomb and you're a woman and you're being buried in your family, your married family's tomb, your head might be next to like your husband's grandpa's pelvis. Like that's a little weird. Jerry never want to die in New Orleans. But New Orleans is very Catholic. So you see a different kind of, it's interesting in all the research I've done, the differences between like all these different denominations on how they handle I'm like, it's all the same Jesus. Like, I don't know how we all got all these totally different like ways of doing stuff. Disagreements. You know, his little brother is extremely Catholic. So I was talking a little bit about this. I think it's kind of a bit of a cruel irony if you take a Christianity at face value that God sort of incarnated and gave us the truth, you know, like the capital T truth. And the cruel irony is that he does that and then nobody can agree on what that truth actually was. Right. There's all these denominational conflicts between each other turn. Nobody can really set, you know, set it straight. I think that's quite this kind of cruel joke. I think that's, I think that's really sad based off of what Jesus died for. Literally, Jesus said, literally, he said, love your love that God with all my heart and love each other as I have loved you. Meanwhile, Christians were like burn each other at the stake over a different like you missed the point, guys. I was looking at some, I was watching our archaeologists talk about some of the stuff that they found regarding like the early like Christians. And he was explaining from his is just to make a long story short explain this stuff. And at the end of it, he was like, you know, if Jesus came back and saw the church, he wouldn't recognize it. And I had this like, I had this fabulous gay friend out in LA who used to say that all the time, like if Jesus came back today, he would look at the church and just be like, so not what I meant, guys. I was like, you're right. You're absolutely correct. So well, so guys, I know we talked a little bit last time with Cody about the Sally House. We were chit chatting, and that's when we had the idea on air to collaborate because this is such a big interesting, I think kind of portal. And Brett's going to be doing the animation for that series. Do we want to talk a little bit about some of the stuff happening in the Sally House or do what do you guys want to do? You want to give them a little bit of a teaser of what's going on at that house, sir? Yeah, I mean, we definitely can. Oh, it's evil. It's evil. It's just pure evil. Yeah, it's, uh, it's, if there was ever a place in Kansas that was haunted that wasn't called stole, this would be the Sally House. It's extremely haunted from what I gather. And the town is where like, what Amelia Earhart, is she from that town or something? Like it's got, it's got some like pretty important landmarks for American history. And it's not that big of a town, is it? It's not. I've been there a couple of times actually. I've never, you know, explored any of the haunted places within it, thankfully. I feel like maybe something would have followed me back if I had, but going there for various like sports functions and stuff like that, it's really not that big at all, which is interesting for how many stories have come out of it because there's a lot. It's kind of significant because it's a part, it was a part of, you know, we kind of don't think about it too much today because we've got highways and planes and everything, but it was a really big, it was like the eastern most junction of like the big railroad network that does sort of like spanned, you know, all the way from there to, you know, other parts of Kansas, but across the nation. So it, it kind of helps explain how it was a sort of hub for most of its life. A lot of people came through there. And yeah, that's how Atlanta started off. Atlanta was never supposed to be, well, it wasn't the capital, Georgia at this point, but it was a railroad town. It was never supposed to be a big booming, like Metropolis that it is now, it was just a railroad town. And so yeah, a lot of people, yeah, I think when you have those criss-crosses, especially where there's lots of rivers from back in the day, when people used rivers, that was for like their highway basically, you are going to get a lot of interesting energy passing through that's going to leave an imprint on the town. And I know with the Sally House guys, I'll say it got its name Sally from one of the main entities that people tend to see there, which is a little girl named Sally, which we talk about in the video. And her death was pretty horrific, like, I mean, pretty horrific. And it wasn't from what it wasn't like an intentional, you know, they were actually trying to save her life. Yeah, it was totally accidental. And she got stuck. And it's funny because at that point, the house was owned by a doctor's family. And that was that was traditional back then. And like, in a certain time, that doctors would have like, they either go make house calls, or you would go to their house. And so there's a restaurant down here in Atlanta, South Atlanta that I've covered. That was the same thing a doctor lived there. And so any time you have an emergency situation where people are passing over, you're going to have a hot spot, you know, absolutely some activity. So it's just one thing if you ever move into an old house here in America, you might just want to ask that of your real estate agent to just be like, did a doctor ever live here? Or, or I mean, if you start finding severed limbs everywhere. So yeah, and there's but it's not just the little girl now. There's like, people think there's like a demon in the house too, right? They have like, yeah, it's very original land look. It is very amity bill s for sure. But yeah, the original landlord who I think still owns the property did some digging and ended up finding like a really strange looking pentagram in the basement underneath the original floorboards, which we talk about that a little bit in the video itself. They think maybe they don't know how many people were involved in whatever occult type activity that was going on there. But at least one person was definitely doing something they weren't supposed to be doing, which you know, account for whatever demonic activity has taken place there. Yeah, they probably had a Ouija board too at some point there. Or make the house a Ouija board, I guess. That's kind of what I get from it from other people's experiences that I was listening to a podcast about the Sally house years ago. And the guy, it was these two guys that had gone out there. And the main guy was was skeptical of all this. Even though they talked about a bunch of paranormal stuff, he was very skeptical. And they recorded some of the EVPs, like the voice phenomenon stuff. And it like, literally, he talked about afterwards. Now I've played with this stuff for a long time. So here and things scream on an EVP doesn't really affect me that much anymore, because I'm a weirdo at heart. Like I've listened to this. But for him, like, when he was, you can really hear in his voice that he had been like crippled by this. Like this was something that literally pulled the carpet out from under him. And he said he will not go back. That he was so, but it's funny because I think when you have that first, like initial paranormal experience, it does change you. It does make you really, you're not as safe as you think you are. And there's so much that we can't see. There's so much that we haven't been taught to see, you know, and that that that's kind of scary. And you see that from so many people who go to this house. Do they allow people to stay the night now? Or is it is it not allowed? Do you know? Yeah, I think you can actually book it as like a venue, not like a venue for like weddings and stuff, but to like, like to stay the night and sort of a thing. I think that someone, someone owns it. I don't know if it's the original guy or not. But you can actually book it to stay the night kind of like a hotel, which I'm not, I'm not ballsy enough for that. I'm probably walk in first. I tend to get scratched though. Like I get scratched all the time. So I think I probably walk out with a scratch on me or something or worse. I mean, get some holy water before you go in there so you're not bringing anything home with you. Just be like, listen, seriously, we got enough spirits down in Atlanta, Georgia. We don't, we don't need any more. Listen, the Sally House, you're a superstar here. You are a big fish in a spa pond here in Atlanta. You're not going to be the main event anymore. You're not, you're not going to be able to work the ghost circuit as hard. You're going to have to have a competition. I know. We've got a lot more down here in Atlanta. So you just best stay in the Sally House where you could just shine. You could do your little start. Right. We were talking about EVPs. I was going to ask, I've never personally captured an EVP. I've always been kind of too afraid to like go out into like a cemetery with a tape recorder or something like that. But have you captured any EVPs yourself or? I have over Skype with somebody else working what they call the Frank box. I think is what it's called where they know how to do it. Like a spirit box. Yeah. There's a special way that you do it. And I don't know how to do it. So I don't know if I would, I would probably like think I'm doing it, but was literally just picking up a radio station from the next town over or something like that. There's a literal way that you do it where you can get the the radio like to vibrate between channels that allows for like a certain frequency or type of frequency. It's creepy. I still have some of the recordings on my iTunes. I could probably send you from like it was over 10 years ago and two people I went to school with as a kid who have passed away came through and like it was like, you know, kids you grow up with, like the kids you grow up with, like you always say them with their full name. Like, you know that like a kid you grew up with, you're like, Oh yeah. You know, remember, Jen Smith, like you say that you say the whole thing. When you talk about it, we all do it. We all do it with kids that we grew up with. It's one of the people you grew up with your friends nowadays. You don't really do that, but it's the kids you grew up with. You always for always first name with the guys you know now, but back in the day, yeah, you say the full name. When your friends start getting married, because I'm a bit older than you guys, but the girls that you grew up with that you get married, that when they get married, they could be married for 20 years and you still refer to them by. Yeah, they're a made name or such and such. Yeah, and my mom used to do that with her friends that she grew up with and she would say like, Oh, you know, like Tracy Lu, you know, Thomas, Tracy Lu, like who is that? And I realized like the last name because we would call them by their married name, but it's it's the weirdest for the human beings just do this weirdest phenomenon. But um, you remember their voices, like I remember my friend's voices that I grew up with. I think she spent so much time growing up with them. And I still remember their phone numbers back when we had landlines ever for all their phone numbers. But um, so when it came through on the Frank box, I was like, Holy shit, like you can like, Oh my God, like, Oh my God. Yeah, I would be freaking out. So freaking out. I mean, at least they were together hanging out. It's interesting you mentioned that someone from your past came through because I was actually listening to a radio show the other day with the late gray Art Bell. And there was a company that was based here in the US. And I forget their name. I'm sure I'll do a video on it at some point, but they engineered some kind of spirit box and they made contact with, I believe it was a German doctor from the 19th century. And they were able to have calls like one way calls where they could speak to him on a regular basis. And they documented all of this over the course of like eight or nine months. So they were able to contact the same exact spirit and talk to it eight or nine months in a row. And the way that the frequency comes through, like you can clearly tell it's this specific person, the modulation and the voice changes a little bit. But it's really interesting because he just described it as it's essentially like another life. Like he was a doctor again. He was still working, which I don't know how I feel about that. But yeah, right. But it just, it gives a whole different perspective into the afterlife and what could really happen when we pass on. So I'm sure we will have to do a video on that at some point. I'll see if I can find you. This is the questions I have for like our ghost at our Shala who lived, we think in the Civil War. Like do you recognize, did he mention that he recognized that time had passed on our plane of reality? Did he recognize that? Yes. Yes. And as Matt, it's funny you mentioned that because they asked him as well, they asked the doctor what the time measurement was like over there, if he could tell that he had passed on and that sort of a thing. And he said that he could tell that he had passed on, but that the way that time worked where he was was totally different. I forget the time span in particular. I'd have to rehash some of my information, but like an hour there was like, I think it was like a year here or something like that. It was very abstract. It was different for sure. Interesting. You know, we're in this like, you know, astrologically last December the 21st, we entered into the age of Aquarius, where Jupiter and Saturn lined up. It was leaving the age of Pisces, which is in the Bible. It talks about revelation, a thousand years of peace coming in. And on my channel too, we've been digging through a lot of these band or heretical books, which absolutely tell you a lot more information about the truth. And one thing that I have learned is that our understanding of time is man made. I mean, we have this, but God set up astrology for us to understand the timing, but we have this created this, this contraption, but the, um, as it was actually an art bell show, I was listening to, um, and I forgot, I think I might have been researching Skinwalker Ranch or something a long time ago. Another freak. With nids and all that. Yeah. Like, I can't like that. We've done a video on it. Yeah, I'm crazy. I like had to like, I like to, every prayer, our reference on this will grow up when I go to bed next, that thing gave me nightmares. But I listened to an episode of, I got started listening to some art bell stuff in this Native American man who was like half Native American, half like a white person. So he kind of understood both, both of the world. And he started talking about, basically around the year 2000, we went into what they called in the Native American, community, the quickening, where time would get faster. And it does feel like time is getting faster. I mean, I know when you're a kid, you feel like time is so slow because you just want your birthday to come or Christmas to come or summer to come and an adult, it just, but it literally feels like minutes are getting faster. Time is speeding up. Yeah. There's literal acceleration going on. I can, I can agree with that. And when he said that, like he was saying this in the early, like late 1990s, early 2000s, and here I am, this was like 2020, like 20 years later, I'm like, holy shit, like that is literally- It could be a different episode. But I think the guy's name was, I want to say Thunder walks or something like that. Because I've totally listened to this show. I've listened to a lot of art bell. It's crazy. My boyfriend follows, he grew up a Methodist. I have to say that he grew up Methodist, but he follows his kind of more religious or, I don't even want to say religious, because it's really spiritual, his spiritual understanding of the universe and God. He really connects to the raw material or the law of one, which really does line up with the Bible as well, where they, you know, these entities, like they challenge, they explain to them, like we are on a path where the earth now is having to go into, we're in third density, which in third density, you're neither positive nor negative. That's the lifespan of being to decide whether they want to go on the positive path or the negative path, service to others, service to self. And at this time, at this conjunction, the earth now is destined to be a fourth density positive planet. And so we're at this time now where we're seeing a lot of like really nefarious stuff just in our faces. And the thing is happening. And so it looks like the negative people are, and the Bible says that, but all of these dark entities and human form, whatever, have to leave. Like they will be off the planet. Like Satan, whatever you want to call it. We've learned in the missing books in the Bible that Satan has many names, my favorite thus far has been yelled about, because that's fun to say. I haven't heard that one actually. That's from the impact of what I've done. The old bus, that's, it's, it's a lot. It sounds intense. Yeah. But he has to like leave, like he can't be here, you know, and all the demons have to leave, you know, it's like but they're, they're kind of at this like death role right now. Or as somebody said, I know I'm talking to two guys, but I'm sure you can imagine this. And I've never had a child myself either. But a lot of women have said, we're at this point when a woman is in labor and she's like in pain and she just wants the baby out and she'll do anything just to get it out. But once the baby comes out, a piece is there and you're happy and you have that child. So like right now in our timeline, we're literally giving birth to the 1000 years of peace. And that's why we're seeing like death roles. And like, I mean, I literally wake up every day and I'm like, what the fuck? Like, I can't like, what is happening now? Like, what is going on? Is this for, is this for real? Like, are really, you know, really like so. And I know everybody watching this feels the same way. But, you know, but we're seeing that transfer into you. And it's a quickening, which thank God, could you imagine if it was a slowing, like if time slowed down? No, thank you. I work enough. I on average, I work at 10 hour a day. If it went by any slower, I would lose my mind. All miracles, like thanks God for such small mercy. We're literally ripping the baby out. Am I going to just sit there and drool the whole time? Like Well, I mean, so, so when we think about that, we think about, you know, if you're coming from a Christian background, you know that we're coming into 1000 years of peace. This is the book of Revelation, which we know now that apocalypse means to lift the veil. The rapture is just our understanding more. It's not our bodies physically lifting off the earth, because holy crap, that would be some PTSD to deal with next life. That would be pretty dramatic. I won't lie. It's just our vibrational, we're understanding more now the veil is lifting everything. The weird occurrences they talk about is really just astrologic. We know the tribulation is for them for the bad guys, not for us. It's people having their justice being served out. So with that being said, when we when we move into this 1000 years of peace, what do you think? And guys, again, this is just opinions. None of us know anything. We're just all students of the world. So we're just critical thinking skills talking about it. What do you guys think is going to happen to places like the Sally House? Well, that's a good point. I mean, if if Satan and his demons are leaving the earth, right, you would think if there's any sort of a demon inhabiting the Sally House that it would have to leave. Yeah. I mean, if they're all truly gone, then essentially the portal would have to be closed and whatever evil being inhabits that house would have to leave. I mean, they don't want to leave. That's why they were seeing such a bad like this is like a literal, as I said on one of my videos, this is a W. A. R. guys like we're in a literal like we know this isn't about politics. This is about good versus evil. You know, it's so obvious. It's global. It's so obvious. But yeah. So do you think like if there is a little girl named Sally that's stuck at that house, do you think that with the 1000 years of peace that her spirit would then be released to move on or to come back into like a resurrection? Like what do you think would happen? What do you guys think? You all both grew up Christian like though you have that. Yeah, I'm not so sure about like a resurrection per se, but I would like to think her spirit would move on. I would hope. I mean, whatever negativity she had towards Dr. Charles Finney, I would hope would be released or quelled within her soul. You would have an understanding of an accident and like be able to let go have closure for herself. I would hope so. I mean, not logically speaking would make sense. Yeah, what about you, Brad? What do you think? So it's interesting because I know that in revelations, what when it comes to, you know, the end times in the last judgment, it talks about, you know, people, you know, the dead will rise from the sea, they'll rise from the earth and everything will rise from their graves. And I think in those cases, in particular, would say demonic entities in places like the Sally House. Well, demonic entities, you can get a good sense. If you've ever sensed one of them, you've ever experienced, you know, or interacted with one of them, they feel incredibly unnatural. It does not feel like something that is supposed to be here. It feels like it is breaking laws of nature by being here. And I feel like in that case, if there is supposed to be a sort of a writing of wrongs, right, like it's supposed to be a rectifying and rebalancing that those gates are going to be closed, like the laws that have been broken by these demons, well, those laws are going to be put back in place and hopefully they'll get the boot out. Yeah. So you know, so with the law of one that my boyfriend for the raw material, light, so beings that are in the light, so like God, angels can create themselves. They can like create stuff. Their positive human beings can create their own creative stuff. They can create something in the light. Lucifer is the God of death, you know. And so all of these demons, these entities are following the laws of death and darkness and death cannot create itself. So it has to take from the light in order to sustain itself. So when you go to places like the Sally House and you have these experiences, it is literally sucking life from you so that it can maintain its substance of life, if that makes sense. So it can sustain itself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's where you get this idea like vampirism or the literal or yeah, or like fear, fear feeders. Yeah. Or they cause you to be afraid and they can feed off that negative energy to sustain. Right. That's called lush. I've learned that. That's called lush when you are in a situation where you are generating anxiety or fear, you radiate a certain energy off of you and demons can feed off of that. I think we talked about that last time. It's like, you're like the McDonald's for some deep, you know, like McDonald's. Yeah. Yeah. Like, if you want to be like the sirloin steak for demon go to the Sally House because he can really that pull from you. Yeah. Nice. Fat T boner. Exactly. But when you are like, you know, and I think it's like for what I and somebody said that's why they horror films do well because they want, but I kind of see it more as like, you know, the horror film, you could be a little jumpy, but it's more like that psychological, you know, fear. A lot of churches will live off of that psychological fear of vulnerability. It's just human nature. Oh, yeah. That's actually a red flag for a high control group. A CULT is that scaring you into submission, but it gives entities like a life force to be able to pull off of you. And technically, yeah, technically, the whole universe, God, even God, that's why God made a deal with Lucifer is because we have, you know, if you're following the Christian faith, you know, man fell by eating from whatever tree that was. Some people say apples. Some people say grapes. This is why people are burning themselves on the stake because they argue over shit like this. It doesn't matter, guys. They ate something. You had one job. God's like, you guys can do whatever you want, but don't eat apples like that. So it's like, that's looking pretty good over there. This is not human life. They're like, don't touch that button. You're like, God's like, you're human. Well, actually in the apocalypse of Abraham that we're reading, they describe Lucifer, the serpent as like a Draco, like an alien. And I'm like, that kind of makes more sense. Like a Draco, like I kind of, that kind of makes more sense. Like then just a snake being like, hey, sexy lady, this apple. Well, in revelations, it does talk about the fact that the dragon was, you know, cast out of heaven and it fell to the earth. And, you know, we, we get told that there weren't any dragons on earth, but there are dinosaurs. There are all these delicious dinosaur bones everywhere. You know, that reptile. Yeah. The Draco are reptile. You know, that's, so things are starting to make more sense. Like we're starting to figure this out. Actually, when I did, I did a huge breakdown on the Nephilim, the giants and like last year and I got into all these like court cases where these anthropologists had like sued the Smithsonian. Yep. The Smithsonian. We just, me and Brett just talked about this the other day, actually, when we were at the gym. So all the Smithsonian is, don't believe anything they tell you. Like there's liars on fire. Like they don't, nothing. Like don't give them anything. Like if you find something in your house, don't give it to the Smithsonian. Don't do it. They, these court cases, they literally, like they would, they would hand over these bones they found of these giants to the Smithsonian thinking, oh, this will help for their research. And they would incinerate them because they didn't want to go against the narrative. Because if you start, if you start bringing this up that these, these beings existed, then that throws evolution out the, out the door. You know, it's done. And so a good scientist is always challenging his own work. And you know, but the Smithsonian, so don't ever, yeah, guys, if you find an artifact in your house, just keep it until like we go into the age of Aquarius and there's honest people. YouTube channel. Like the CEO of the Smithsonian is just like, la, la, la, la. The bones in the oven. What's the guy from the substance? Oh, I know you're talking about this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we know, like, we know there's so much they've hidden from us. And it's interesting because in that, the apocalypse of Abraham, it talks about like a basically like a dragon, which dragons can look a little snake like they can be represented by a serpent, but it's not an actual snake. It's like a freaking like horrific Draco looking beast. And the, you know, Nancy Pelosi. You know, who hopefully will be taken when Lucifer leaves this realm. You know, it's so funny. I don't, for Democrats and Republicans to like alpha A by like Nancy Pelosi, like Draco. The great Skeletor. That reminds me. For some reason I decided to throw that out there. It's funny because whenever we would be watching, it was the Harry Potter movies, there's Bellatrix Lestrange in it. I remember my mom told me that when I was a little kid, this is before I even knew who Nancy Pelosi was, whenever Bellatrix Lestrange came on screen, I'd be like, Hey, look, mom, it's Nancy Pelosi. Sorry to derail the serious conversation. Trust me. Everybody watching this on my channel agrees with us 100%. So it was funny. You know, in the 1000 years of peace, like worse, if I debated this, like we've talked about this on other episodes, like there's this idea that we will live longer lives. Like all of a sudden we'll be living like the 1000 years that Noah lived, you know, and like the possibility that could happen to us. Like we could all of a sudden like, you know, not needed a Roth IRA because, or 401k, because we're going to be living for like 1000 years. We're really freaking to think about, and we were to, and somebody said, somebody said, listen, could you imagine having Nancy Pelosi for 1000 years? Oh my God. We're having to work for 1000 years. They're like a retirement for the last like 200 of it. It was a company for 100 years. You can't just ship me out the door. Well, you know, they're saying, you know, there'll be a transfer of wealth, you know, like with the Nassar or whatever, they'll have a transfer of wealth where we won't have to like work like, but then I'm like, you know, for me, I'm 38. I'm pushing 40. Like I'm like, this is literally, I've been indoctrinated to like work for a certain amount of time and then retire. And now you're telling me I got to live a whole like 960 more years. They're going to change their retirement age to like 975. I've been with this company for 1000 years. Like, are you kidding me? I mean, that doctor on the other side, that German doc is probably having a better time than we are. Like, holy crap. I mean, so it's wild to think about the possibilities of what could happen. I mean, wild. We keep, we asked, so we work, I work, uh, my friend Tom and I work with a lady up in Canada who reads tarot cards. And we, I, we've been like challenging this whole like idea of like, what does our earth really look like? Because we've been so like blindsided by these big institutions that I don't know what's like two sons, like what the hell are two sons doing? What are the planets really? What is Pluto really? And we asked Janine to look at the cards and my friend Tom was very specific. He said, he said, are we on a flat earth or around earth? And so she pulled the cards and she was like, well, it's neither flat nor round, but it doesn't want to tell us because we're not ready for it. We got off and I called Tom and I was like, what the hell are we standing on? It's just a giant terrarium. We're literally in the Truman show. We're literally in the Truman show. No, no, that's terrifying. We're like the trashy reality TV show for aliens. Earth has been canceled. Well, it's funny because, you know, me and Cody, uh, we grew up watching, you know, shows like South Park. And I just remember this distinct episode. Earth was a reality TV show for aliens and it was, and it gets canceled. It's still so accurate to this day. I gotta be careful how I say this because of YouTube. And I'll always go through every episode anyway and like mute words. I have to mute because, you know, our overlords, but because that's our corporate overlords. Our freedom of speech is only like an illusion. But ever since, so when, I'll say when Mr. T, when Mr. T started talking about how the news is F, A, K, E, you know what I'm saying? So I remember that he first started talking about that in like 2015, 2004, 2015 and thinking, what's he talking about? And I was like, maybe he embellished some things to get ratings, but like they wouldn't be like, they can't do that. Like people would find it out. And now in 2021, I'm like, literally everything they tell you is it's all, it's all, literally nothing is real. Nothing is real. Nothing is real. It's all, it's all a bunch of BS. I'm concerned. I mean, I can tell me it's going to rain outside and I'm like, yeah. I said, I said, you know, it's so funny. I was a little kid that used to make fun of the meteorologist. Like he never got the weather right now. Like the meteorologist is literally the most honest person on the, the most accurate. Maybe a bad example for this particular thing, but I was just going out there on a limb. Thing is, is that at least with meteorologists, they give you a percentage, right? They don't say, oh yeah, it's totally going to rain today. No, they, allegedly percentage. They at least are honest about that. Well, the funny thing is, I don't know if y'all saw back when like we'll say, because we can't say the V word, but back when the cure came out, the cure came out and they were showing all these celebrities, the cure. Yeah. Around the world, getting their cure on TV and people were like screen, taking screenshots, cap wasn't even off. Yeah. The magic mystery dude. It's so weird, man. Like, and especially when you break it down into like these weird little incentives, like we're going to raffle you to be able to get a gun. We're going to raffle you to get a free gift card. You can get a free gift card to Applebee's to come down. That's the red flags right there. I was on, I was on with Charlie Ward over in Spain and you know, over in light, he's English though, but like over in Europe, they have like free medicine and, you know, socialized healthcare. We don't have that here. And so, and I haven't even attempted to look into the cure because I'm not getting it, but from what I understand, what I understand, they're giving it out for like free. And I was on with him and I was like, does that go? Okay. That should be a red flag too. When have you ever gone to the doctor for free? Or they offer you a hundred dollars. They're like, here, a hundred bucks for the cure. Like, yeah, we pay people and cancer meds for free. Yeah, it would never happen here. Yeah, it never happens. So like, we got people like, just like, you don't have to let my favorite meme is like, you don't have to be a sit back and go, something's off. Something is mega off. Well, it's funny that you, you know, that you hear that term considered as a meme that was spread. So it would stigmatize people, you know, who kind of dissent against the narrative. So critical thinkers. Pretty much. Yeah. It's worked too. That's the sad part is that, you know, all it takes is people that's using those two words. And all of a sudden, you know, whatever you're talking about, you can have a, you know, an entire like stack of information and evidence of government documents. And literally, if you like, yeah, it's void now. It's void. Yeah. It's a discredit your character. I know that we're, I know we're the majority, like I get that. And I know that like a lot of people, like our side, we'll, we'll say just encode our side of this board game, our side of this chess game. We're fun. Like, you know, we're fun people. We laugh. We like to have fun. The other side is just like deranged and like, like oxygen to the brain. Yeah. But, but you know, I just can't like, I look at them like, I'm like, literally, how can you not see this? How can you not see this? It's so obvious. It's so obvious that this is all an illusion. It's all an illusion. It's all an illusion. Like the, the, the, um, president, uh, oh, I'll say president. Oh, with big Mike. Yep. Yep. Um, he, he had his birthday and had like all those people and but yet you can't go hang out with your friends. No, no, no, no rules, rules for the, but not for me. Exactly. The haves and has not. But I mean, it's funny to me too that, you know, our, you know, the people, uh, you know, on, uh, let's just say it's like red team or something. I don't know our team. They, uh, red team. Yeah. Yeah. We, uh, we, um, we actually have a sense of humor because, you know, I think we're genuine human beings who have a sense of goodness in them and, you know, evil can't laugh. Evil doesn't understand humor. I get you. Yeah. That's why laughter is one of the best forms of banishing. You deal with any kind of demonic or negative entity in a spiritual level. Like anybody who deals with this will tell you laughter is one of the best forms of banishing and you can teach it. It's just so natural. If you laugh at it, it weakens its power because I can't think of an actual opposite to laughter. Can you know, maybe? Yeah. Like I can't think of an interesting one of my opposite. One of my favorite spiritual teachers that I've, I used to read, he's passed away now, but his books are awesome. And he used to say that, that comedy humor was the highest form of spirituality. It was the highest form. She didn't take anything too seriously because it's just a lot, like it's not permanent, you know? And, um, I mean, I think God has a sense of humor. Again, have you seen the Pelosi? Yeah, I was about to say there's a lot of stuff in this world. God has to have a sense of humor. So, I mean, you know, anyway, Nancy, have you seen AOC? No. But, uh, no, I, yeah, it's, it's my, my boyfriend, when he moved to India in, you know, late nineties, he was like 22 and he and his, his guru. Um, and when he was studying, it was very, very, very strict and very intense. But if somebody took it too seriously, his guru would tell him to like, Oh, no, no space. You come, like, if you took it too seriously, it was like, you know, no, you can't, you can't calm. It's, you're taking it too seriously. You have to be able to laugh at yourself. You have to be, I mean, Jesus was probably a riot. Right. Probably. Think about what happened when he turned all that water into wine. There's a, in the book of Jubilee, there's a place, uh, the book of Jubilee was taken out of our Bible. There's a place where Noah gets drunk in it, where he means too much of the grape juice. And I'm like, Oh, it's drunk. That's funny too, because, um, that reminds me of, um, with the story of Noah, I'm reminded of when Noah was actually, you know, getting drunk and everything. And like his son comes in and sees him, like being naked and drunk. And like, you know, because he like did it, like cover him up and his other sons came and did that. He basically wakes up and he like somehow knows that, you know, this particular son like saw him naked. And so like he just decides to have a problem with him. Y'all know what the true story is with that though? His son, um, R-A-P-E-D, Noah's wife. So that's the Luciferian incest. They all do that. And that's where the Cain, the his son's plan came in. So Cain was, I think it was Ham, was that the son that, his son and his brother. And so this is where we get the Canaanites and the Israelites from. So yeah, because Noah got drunk. Speaking of inbreeding. I mean, yes, like this is where this all comes from. I mean y'all, y'all, can you just think about the people that are still like asleep right now? And I mean, how much we've woken up and like how much it's gonna slap them across the face. It's gonna be awful. But we'll, we'll be there. You know, it's like, well, there's like that meme. That's like, um, how to talk to your friend who's a conspiracy theorist. It's just like, I'm sorry, man, you were right all along. Yeah. Well, I, I, my, my minister, he's always like, we're going to hug you. We're going to hug you. We're going to tell you we told you so, but we're also going to hug you. We're going to tell you, we're going to tell you, we told you so. Just waiting for a knock at the door from a few people that, you know, it's like that stereotypical, it's raining outside. They're crying and they're just like, I didn't know. I'm waiting for some apologies. Like I don't want a list of apologies for some people because like, holy crap, you know, you're crazy. The government will never do that to you. I've got, I'm like, you're something crazy. I mean, do you really? What's this? Somebody said, I put up the other day believing the government is going to take care of you is like believing the stripper loves you. Oh God. Yeah. I was like, that's awesome. They're like the same people that believe the government is taking care of them are the same people that also think the stripper loves them. Sad existence. I was like, how did the conservatives become the counterculture? The cool kids that are the counterculture. I guess it cycles. I mean, you have conservative families, you know, let's say post-war war two until like, what, like the 70s, to like the mid 60s. You've got conservative families. Their kids are like, screw you, mom and dad. They're all right. And then it's just, it just switches. I feel like generationally, it's just only gotten more extreme as time has gone on. Another thing is all these crazy people who can't decide what they are, you know what I mean? Surely their kids are rebelling against that for sure. Another thing to remember too is that people, I think our modern kind of culture has associated kind of like being rebellious with being Luciferian, right? But we also have to remember that the founder of Christianity, you know, Jesus Christ and the apostles themselves, they were rebels. I mean, they were fighting against the literal Roman empire at the time. So, I mean, like, I mean, these people died for what they believed in. They were a lot, the parallels between what they were experiencing, especially the apostles, because let's be honest, Jesus was the Son of God. So, he didn't, he knew, like he had that. The apostles were just people like us. And a lot of what they were experiencing right before they even came across Jesus was a lot of what we're experiencing. Yeah. It mirrors the early church. It really does. Yeah. Yeah. They did. They did. I mean, they had to, after Jesus was, we'll say for lack of a better word, really was like, I think we, we kind of forget because we talked about the crucifixion, but we forget that was an execution. It was an execution. So, after he was executed, all those apostles had warrants out for their arrest. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, a lot of them were murdered. Yeah. All of them. Yeah. I think it was like John was the only one that just kind of went on that island and wrote Revelation and lived a long life. That was it. The rest of them were like, had horrific. The Acts of Philip, another band book, The Acts of Philip goes through all of Philip's, what he went through. And like his wife, so Philip's wife was Mary of Bethany. You hear her name in the Bible too. Yeah. He literally had to watch her, like when they went, when he was in Turkey, and it was, their time was up, we'll say, he had to watch, they were old, they were older at this point. He had to watch his wife be R-A-P-E-D by the generals at the time, before they executed it. That's horrendous. That's horrific. That's sick. I mean, horrific what they went through. It makes you, I think we become kind of numb to that because we hear this, we get the grandfathered into the stories, but then what we're living through. And we know that we're, we know that it's going to flip for us. Like, we have that safety net of knowing like God wins, like we're at the end of the book basically, and God wins. But they didn't have that safety net. They didn't, they didn't, you know, they were the pioneers. There's, you know, yeah, there's just pure faith and conjecture at that point, really. But you know, they experienced fear and pain. Oh yeah. They experienced all that. Yeah. They felt it. I was, I was laughing with Melissa Redfield, The Nation, we were talking about how we're at the end of, we're at the end of the book basically, we're in revelation. And I was asking, I was like, do you think that we're going to have to have like a third testament because we're entering into this new, new time? And she's like, well, yeah, probably. I was like, there'll be a new covenant. There'll be a new covenant because you think about it because the Old Testament is the old covenant and Jesus Christ was the start of the new covenant. He was the, you know, he's the new agreement. Yeah. So, well, I was like, can you imagine though, like you have the beautiful writing into the older New Testament and then you got us, we'd be like, what happened to us? This dude who used to be this reality star who was his billionaire, all of a sudden he had crazy hair and he's like, what happened to us? Like, bro, you know, like, can you imagine what he's going to read like from us writing it all these thousands of years later? A tangerine wearing a suit. Yeah, destroyed the pyramid. And then like this guy who was the president's son, one of the president's sons, like supposedly passed away, but turns out he didn't pass away. And he, you know, John, John, and he's like, but helping by like, wild, wild, I tell you, like y'all, it would be like y'all think turning water into wine was fun. Just wait till we write what happened to us. But yeah, no, it's, it's a, and we were supposed to be talking about the Sally House guys, but y'all, y'all, we always get off with awesome conversation. We always get sidetracked. It's so fun with you guys. It's so easy to talk with you guys because we're all, we're all weirdos. We're all just, you know, I'm also slightly cracked out on coffee right now too. So, you know, it makes it fun. You do what you gotta do, you know, and I do have to run soon, but let's do this again. So go ahead and let's go ahead and tease. We're putting together the story of the Sally House. So do you want to tease, tease a little bit, Cody? Yeah, sure. Put me on the spot. Yeah, the Sally House all around. It's a very interesting story. The history is, is fairly perplexing and obviously it takes place in a town that's not too far from my own. So if you're a resident of Kansas or you're interested in those small town ghost stories that have gained international attention, this would definitely be one to check out. It's spooky. It's got history. It's got demonic attacks. It's got anything and everything you can think of or want in a ghost story. So you should definitely watch it. I hope that's good enough. Perfect. That was perfect. And Brett, you're an incredible illustrator. So I'm gonna put, send me some of your stuff. I can link it below. You also do freelance, right? Like you can, yeah, cool. Well, send me your like awesome job. I mean, send me all of your information. I will put in the description box because we love supporting other people. Oh, I'm gonna have to believe that word out because apparently, apparently that word is now a hate word. So I'm gonna have to Oh, great. But I'll put the text in. So, but you know, we love supporting each other. And, and so, and he's awesome, guys, I'm gonna link again. I've been, I have Cody's channel linked in most of my videos anyway, but I'm gonna link it again, especially when I go find some of the videos that have his artwork still cemetery, right? Yeah, yeah, I kind of, you know, I did, Cody had commissioned me for like the frame that he kind of uses at one point during that video. I think, and I did a few more of the zombie videos. And those are kind of like a few of the other ones I did after that. The first one I really kind of like, you know, went all in on was the Franklin Expedition video. Then there was the Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I've done, you know, anything after that, you know, after Franklin Expedition, you can probably find, you know, a good portion of my animation and art in that because I was kind of more involved at that point. Cool. I'll link that down below guys. So if you are needing of an illustrator and artist, please get in contact with Brett because again, we support our own, you know, we're not corporations, we're not. I appreciate that. Dude, what do we learn last time, Cody? The pack stays together, you know. The pack stays together. We need to put that on a shirt. We should put that. My friend, my friend Elizabeth, who's a big tech talker and like the Truth of the World team, it just made a shirt that said, it's all a pantomime, which is what Charlie Ward says about everything going on. And we're going to make a shirt that says like, I'm a free breather. Like I'm a free breather. I'm a free breather. And yeah, we should make another shirt, the pack stays together. So I'm so down for that. I would, I would, I would make it just to have one myself to be honest. No one else would get it, but me. And I'm like, yes, everybody on this channel and you guys obviously pack stays together. We, you know, we got that from our last episode, we were talking about our dogs, how our dogs get a little bit like, be about certain things, but dogs know their packs and they will, they literally like, they go to the bathroom with, they go to the bathroom with you and stare at you because they're trying to protect you. That's what they do when they go to the bathroom, they stare at you. It's because you, you're, you have their back. They have your back. I know they just stare at you while they're, it's very awkward. It's, I mean, could you imagine if dogs had like a dating profile for dogs? Like what? They smell each other's butts, like, you know, but just be noses. It's funny, it's funny because I know I saw Luna walking behind you at some point, Cody. I was like, I was trying to be like, honey, just go into the living room and she actually walked past me over to the kitchen, smelled something in the kitchen, came back, laid down by my feet for a while and now she's chilling on the couch. So yep. She was trying to bomb the video a little bit. She's the star. She's the star. Yeah. It's like, dad, look at me. Yeah, we're huge animal lovers. Animals are, they're, they're, I mean, dog is God backwards. So, you know, and we know they see things. We know they see stuff. They see shit that we all see. So, and that's creepy when they're like staring at something and you're like, what's that? And her hair starts standing up. Is there anything there? Update. Luna hasn't barked or stared at that corner in quite some time. I spent, you know, not since we've done our last video. I'm really, I'm really hoping it was just the turtle tank in the next room because I also have a turtle. I think I vaguely mentioned it, but I'm hoping that's what it was. Maybe the tank was running low on water or something, but no, no spooky demons. Awesome. Yes. Amazing. All right, guys. Well, we will, we will get the video out very soon on the Sallie House, you guys. And I actually would love to hear if there's anybody watching that has experienced the Sallie House. Please. We would love to. Yeah. And have you guys come back on and bring on anybody who wants to come share their story if they've experienced the Sallie House. So let me know. Just shoot me a comment down below or send me a email or Cody, you know, and his channel mystery archives. Again, all that will be linked down below. So awesome. Well, I've got to run guys, but this was, let's do this again really soon. Please. Yes, this is awesome. We should have beers next time. We just crack open some beers. Yes. So what do you think about exactly like watch some like news clips and like commentate on it about the, you know, telenovela. That's, that's up before us. So I'm so game. I know. It was so awesome talking to you guys. And I'll talk to you guys soon. All right. Bye. Bye.