 Next question is from Katie Konten. What are the pros and cons of drinking coffee versus energy drinks? Oh, yeah. You know what's funny about this is that coffee is genuinely, objectively healthy. Yeah. It's full of antioxidants. They've tried so hard to create studies where it shows the detriments of coffee to their dismay. Yeah. Now, of course, caffeine, you can overdo caffeine. And there's a big difference between people in terms of what's too much and what's too little. But that set aside, coffee's natural. It's full of antioxidants. It's a natural drink that shows lots of health benefits. Energy drinks, essentially, are trying to recreate what you get from coffee. Now, here's the benefit that I could see from energy drinks or pre-workouts. Pre-workouts will often include other compounds that might have some benefit, like beta-alanine, for example, or maybe citrulline might be in there, or theanine, an amino acid that balances out the caffeine. But, and then here's the other thing. Coffee, some people have an intolerance to. I mean, it is made from beans. So for some people, coffee, for me, it's hit or miss. Sometimes it bothers my gut. Sometimes it doesn't. Whereas if I do a caffeine pill, that never bothers my gut. Well, it kind of reminds me of sort of, I guess, pharmaceuticals versus herbs, or kind of going a little bit more in that direction. Something that's a little more condensed versus artificially manufactured versus something that you can just grind up and take off of a tree. And so there's some natural pathways there for the body to absorb it. But yeah, as long as you're not adding all these extra items in there, which you're going to find in most Starbucks and most, if it's just like the pure sources of coffee, and you know your amount and how it affects you, and you can kind of manage that, I really don't see a whole lot of problems. There's also natural limiters because of that, too, which I think are another positive of coffee. So even if you, so nitro-brewed, cold-pressed coffee is probably the highest level of caffeine. One of them, right? Right, one of them. But it is nothing compared to a rockstar, which is pumping out 220 milligrams of caffeine in a single dose. Bro, I had a pre-workout. Or a pre-workout that's 450 milligrams. Exactly, you can get up there quickly. Going through coffee is you're probably less likely to overdo it, right? Even though all the positive health benefits of caffeine and all the research around it that we've seen, for the most part, it's pretty good for you. But I do think it starts to have an adverse effect when you climb up to a certain amount. I think that's just a lot less likely to happen drinking cups of coffee versus pre-workouts and taking energy drinks that they've got at 4x the dose. Doug, how much coffee would you have to drink to get 400 milligrams of caffeine? Maybe we can look that up. Could that be a big ass pot of coffee? Right, you'd have to drink a lot to get that. And I told you guys, was it two weeks ago, when I went to the supplement store, and I got all excited because I do that in supplement stores. And I said, oh, look at this drink. This looks fun. And it's like it was a small bottle. It wasn't even that big of a bottle, but it packed a punch. So let's see, what does that say there? Yeah, one cup of coffee is 95 milligrams. You have to have more than four cups, right? So 32 ounces of coffee just to equal. Do you know what has the most caffeine of any coffee or whatever? The light brews. The light brews, yeah. I thought it was the dark ones. I know. It would seem that way because the taste of it is more bold. No, like the blonde espresso's and stuff like that are the highest, but. Well, yeah, that's my point is that I think that going the natural route, you're less likely to overdo it. Totally. And I think the way they, and what I've seen at least in the last decade with these pre-workouts is they just keep pressing it. And I don't think we're going to see it slow down anytime soon as everybody just keeps kind of. Their tolerance goes up. Yeah, it keeps going. I mean, it used to be a big deal to have 200 milligrams in a pre-workout. Like that was a serious pre-workout. That's a starter dose now. Yeah, now it's pretty standard to see 300 plus in a pre-workout. So that would be my concern of doing it with the. Yeah, it's funny you brought up the blonde roasting because I'm a big nitro connoisseur. And I had a nitro coffee at this like total hipster place thinking that I was going to have the same experience pretty much. But I think it was made from a blonde roast. And so it was like rocket fuel. I hadn't experienced anything that powerful in a while. So that was pretty cool. Yeah, well, coffee is not sexy. It's cheap. So the supplement companies aren't going to promote coffee. But if you want, here's something you can do is you could buy beta alanine in bulk and it's cheap. You could buy citrulline, which is the amino acid supposedly gives you a better pump. I'll debate that, but that's fine. You buy that in bulk, buy some theanine in bulk, and then take those with coffee and you've got yourself a great pre-workout and it's cheap. It's very, now it's not going to taste like bubble gum or unicorn hair or whatever they name these things. But it's definitely going to give you the same effect, but it's natural.