 Okay, we'll get started. I just want to read from John chapter 20 and this is verses, maybe 24 onwards. Okay, let me just read. John 20-24, now Thomas called the twin, one of the 12 was not with them when Jesus came. The other disciples therefore said to him, we have seen the Lord, so he said to them, unless I see in his hands the print of the nails and put my finger into the print of the nails and put my hand into his side, I will not believe. And after eight days his disciples were again inside and Thomas was with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut and stood in the midst and said, peace to you. Then he said to Thomas, reach your finger here and look at my hands and reach your hand here and put it into my side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing. And Thomas answered and said to him, my Lord and my God. Jesus said to him, Thomas, because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not yet not seen and yet have believed. And verse 30 and verse 31 it says, Jesus did many other signs in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book, but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God and that believing you may have life in his name. So we've maybe read this many times and where Thomas being the very rational, maybe even scientific kind of a person, he wants proof. And the Lord Jesus gives him proof after a while. So and the very exact words that he actually tells the disciples, the Lord Jesus brings back, you know, or tells him and he says, you know, why don't you do this? Put your finger here and then touch and see that I am alive. And then he says, Thomas, you have seen me and you have believed. Because you have seen me, you have believed. But blessed are those who have not seen and yet believe. And so, you know, the question for us is again that, you know, what are some aspects? Maybe we believe that Jesus is Lord, but what are some aspects of, you know, of the Christian walk or maybe what the Lord has promised or something that we see in the Word that we find it difficult to believe, challenging to believe. And we're saying, Lord, I want proof. I want more proof. And the Lord is willing to give proof. It's not like the Lord will not, but the Lord will give proof. But he also brings us to a place where he's saying, you know, blessed are those who have not seen yet believe. And of course, the context is believing in the person of the Lord, Jesus. Okay. And that's the first step. You know, many times we do not know or we may not be able to understand the outworking of certain things, right? What, how. But we can always believe on the who, which is the person of the Lord, Jesus. When we believe and we have faith in who he is, we can always, you know, from that will overflow into the outworking of what and how and when and all that, right? But our faith needs to be really strong in who he is. We need to be able to trust him, right? And the Lord says that these things are written that you may believe. These things are written that you may believe. The Word of God is filled with, you know, about his character, about the personhood. And these things are written that we may believe, which means that whenever there, there is a shaking of faith, because of maybe some things that we are facing, maybe there's a mountain, maybe there's some trials, maybe challenges. There's some things happening in our lives, right? And that was the case with Thomas. Suddenly Jesus was there. Now he's not there. And suddenly people are saying he's there again. And so his, his belief, everything was shaken, right? And that could happen to our lives, right? Everything becomes at one point, it's like, Oh, this is as nothing can shake me, right? They are at the top of the mountain. Nothing can shake me. This is the best. But then the next morning we wake up with all these fears, questions are saying, Oh, God, you know, are you there? So the Lord is pointing us back to the Word saying, These are written that you may believe. And that you may believe in the person. And out of that, when we when our faith is strong in the person of who he is, then what he does, when he will do, how he will do it, everything will fall in place, right? So let's just pray and say, Lord, take us back to the Word. Father, we, we thank you for this day, Lord, we thank you for God, for these words that we just read, Lord, that in times when our faith is shaken, we have questions, God, Lord, things that really seem to bring in a lot of unbelief and bring in a lot of maybe because of hurt, maybe because of discouragement, or maybe the difficulties God of life. But Lord, we thank you for these reassuring words that, Lord, you said, visit our those who have not seen and yet believed God. And Lord, I pray that that's there's only one thing that brings us to that place, which is your word. And Lord, we pray that even as you Lord point us back to your word, that these things are written that we may believe that you are the Lord, that you are the Christ. And Lord, I pray that we will always come back to that place when we are strong in that, Lord, all other things, what you will do, when you will do it, and how you will do it in our lives, God will fall in place. And so God, we thank you. We pray that we'll be strong, rooted in your word, and led by your spirit. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Okay. So last class was interesting. We did, we took a detour. We took a detour only two points, I think, and then we got stuck. So we shall step on the accelerator and, you know, go through the other things, which are, you know, like basic and foundational. But I hope that what we discussed yesterday, they kind of made sense and settled some things like, you know, we can go back to it again, no problem. Okay, so let me just share the screen. Right. So we are, we looked at, okay, what qualifies us, right? Because the call of God is something what qualifies us as the basic thing we are believers, what qualifies us to actually communicate or preach, that we are the fact that we are believers, the fact that we are spirit filled and spirit taught, basically spirit led. Okay. And of course, called, commissioned, and that will always give us that reassure and hear, you know, I'm on this assignment because I'm called by God, and I'm on this task or, you know, place, this place, I'm doing this because I'm called by God, because there could be a lot of things that could discourage a lot of things that we could face, difficulties, which make us question the call. You know, in fact, the call could be so strong, and we obey, and then we get into that environment where we are called. And then we begin to ask if it's because it's so tough, it's so difficult, the response is not great. And then we begin to doubt, am I really called for that? Right. And the fact is that the we are the fact that we are called, and the, and the, you know, the groups that we are called, or the reassurance that we are called and commissioned, will always enable us to go forward. Right. So this is another qualification. And the fourth one, there are things that are certain things that are common. So I've just kind of highlighted that the another pillogen also talks about the same qualifications. The fourth one, of course, character. Okay, which Paul writes about in all the I mean, what we saw yesterday in first Timothy Titus, right, he says, Okay, this is what is required characters required. Okay, gifting will definitely open the doors, this gifting will take us to places where we never thought was possible. And gifting is also from God. And gifting is from God. So there's no need to, you know, look down or say gifting is not bad, not good. No, Paul asks us to pursue gifts, pursue special gifts in anointing everything. So but what will give us endurance? I think right from the first semester, we've been learning that right, been reiterating that what will give us endurance? What will give us longevity in the ministry? What will give us the credibility? Right? What will actually bring glory to God is our character. And what will cause us to really hold all the gifting is character. Okay, so many times people can be swayed saying, Okay, this gifting is enough. But then if there are cracks in the character, it will break, right, it will come to a point where we, you know, where we will implode or in the sense, whatever God has put, you know, just breaks, because we're not able to sustain that. So character. And, and of course, being a person of prayer, okay, being a person of prayer, you know, prayer not just for the assignment, prayer not just for the, you know, the next message, prayer not just for the next, you know, whatever we are going to minister in this, which is important, of course, but prayer as a lifestyle, we've been studying about prayer, prayer as intimacy with God, prayer as our relationship as a conversation and in our relationship with God. So, so, you know, many times we are, we even teach our children, you know, maybe, maybe bedtime, maybe, you know, at the time of maybe just before having a meal. So people just have the thing, okay, maybe this is about, it's about this, right, before eating, before going to bed, before stepping out, it's all, you know, kind of event based prayer. But somehow we need to break that and say, you know, you can pray, I don't, I don't think, I don't think my parents ever said that, you know, you can just talk to God anytime. They never said that. No, did you pray before eating? Did you pray before, you know, going to bed? You know, that was the thing. But I think we need to, for us, we need to tell ourselves that we can pray at any time, talk to the Lord at any time, practice that. And for the next generation also, not to say that, no, just talk, be authentic, be real anytime, right? Okay, as a student of the word. Okay, now this is a, this is a given. Okay, so all of us read, but do we all study? Okay, that's the difference. All of us read the word. You know, we read it, we like it, we read one verse, and we're like, ah, you know, God, you really spoke to me, close it, we go. But the question is, do we study the word? You know, that's, what is the difference? Reading and studying, going deep, diamonds and pearls, diving deep, taking the pearls, digging deep, taking the diamond. Okay. Yeah, so yeah. It comes to, when it comes to just regularly and just reading through, but when it comes to more than that, you're trying to understand what the verse means. And you're seeing if this verse can connect to another verse. And if it does so, why? So these type of questions that pop up when you're, we're trying to further study on that, we're trying to understand like, why this word was said here? What is, what what did Jesus say by saying this? Yeah. Yeah, trying to get the context of it. Yeah. Maybe you do a word study. Yeah. Yeah. So good. So the thing is, you know, it can happen to us that maybe as students, we are, you know, we are getting into all that we're doing that, maybe we're forced to do that, whatever. So we do that. Okay. But let's say we get into, we start, when we just proceed on maybe some of us are going to be working professionally, maybe we are ministering, whatever, you know, whatever environment we are. So the issue, the question is, no, do we continue to do that? Do we continue to be students of the word? Because it's important. Because revelation comes, it's not that revelation won't come, God will not give, but we have been given this precious word of God, that we might go deeper. And Mom is reminded of Mark four, where after the parable, the Lord says, you know, I let's probably look at that verse. It talks about the measure, right? With the measure with which one uses 24, I think, Mark four, 24, 25. So, yeah, so the talks about effort, it talks about hunger, talks about pursuing, you know, all that, right? So, so let's never stop doing that. Okay, so to be a student of the word, and as a person using the gifts of the Spirit, right, spiritual gifts of the Spirit are for the believer. And, well, Paul is continually is exorting the church, you know, 1 Corinthians 14, and he's saying, was one desire. And the objective of desiring the gifts is so that we may walk in them, right, so that we may be a vessel for God to express himself, that we'll be a vessel, right? Okay, the second one also, if you look into the notes, it's all similar, similar things. But also talks about loving the Lord and loving people. Okay, loving the Lord and loving people. We might say, you know, that's, you know, is it possible to actually share the word or minister without loving God and loving people? Yeah, what do you think? That much effect? Yeah, you're right. In the sense, in the sense, you won't be content, first of all, right, you know, there's no sense of fulfillment, contentment. It is possible to do that mechanically. It is possible to do it as a sense of duty. And, and, yeah, since we're talking about preaching, since we're talking about, you know, maybe looking at it as pulpit ministry, it is possible. It is possible to come down to that place. And there are sadly, you know, in churches, in Christianity, you know, we see around that kind of a thing. You see that people are there, there are ministers of God, and it's, it's, there's no, it's a sense of, you know, maybe I need to do this work. I need to, and then you will just say something, you know, it's about 15, 20 minutes, they say something, say something from the newspaper, say something from the reader's day, something. And unfortunately, you know, people are also coming with expectation, they go back disappointed. There's a lot of things happen. Okay. So it's it's a very sad state, you know, to see such things, but unfortunately, it happens, right. So must love the Lord muscle of souls. No, now loving other people and to be to have a heart really engaged in that. Now it's a difficult thing. Okay, why is it difficult? Because when you're when when you're hurt, when you're discouraged, when people say things, our natural tendency is to protect. Right? I'm going to build a wall. No more people. Just me and God. I love I love God. You know, God doesn't change. Thank God. He doesn't, you know, he convicts, but he doesn't put me down condemn people. The fact is that ministry exists because of people, people need to be reached, people need to be, you know, built and so on. So, so the same, you know, the same hurt that we experience, or the same strategy that we use to block off that hurt actually blocks us off from loving people again. Right? Just think about it. So which means that people say, you know, you need to have tender hearts and thick skin. And it comes to ministry and it comes to tender hearts and thick skin. People might say things. But the thing is to for us to get healed and get going. Right? Get healed and get going. Yes, there will be disappointments. Get healed and get going. Because if not, we will be, you know, in a place we could be ministering, but it could be happening mechanically, it will, we will not have the joy of the Lord. See, in the Bible, there's, there's one person who does things mechanically. He's saying, okay, God, you know, I don't know, ask me to do I'm doing, but he doesn't really have the love for people, you know, any, any person that you can think of. Yeah, because Jonah's there. He's actually, he's not even waiting for, you know, the, he's shared, he's breached the message, you know, repent three days and that's it, the judgment of God. And then he doesn't, he doesn't want to see people's hearts changed. He goes to a vantage point, nice place of view. Okay, now I'm going to watch. Yeah, he wants to see the fireworks. He's saying, okay, I want to see now how God destroys these people. Okay, I've done my job. And I've come back. And then he's very disappointed. God, I know, I knew you will do that. I knew you will change your heart. And I knew that you're, you know, loving God and all that. That's why I didn't want to come. You kill me now. Right? So, so we see that his heart was actually so disengaged from even the message that he preached. So it's possible. It's possible for us as modern day, you know, ministers have got to reach that place. Maybe because of her. And the thing is this that the ghost in anyway, and like, if you read history, you see that these were people who actually raided these were people who came and attacked his own. Yeah. So he has that grudge against them. He has it hurt against, you know, in his heart. So he doesn't, he doesn't really want them to, you know, repent. Yeah. I've seen some of the preachers who have a very worldly life. But when this come to Sunday, they'll do all the rituals, they'll do, they'll eat the worship, messes and all. But can we think like this, like, he is not the person who is actually doing that. But Holy Spirit will work. But I've seen, I've seen some of the pastors, they're doing so many great things. But when they, when they go off in the states, they'll be living a worldly life only. So what's your So the thing is, God works despite the vessel. And like all of us as well, you know, included. So despite the vessel the grace of God, despite the person, you know, God ministers and blesses and so on. So, so that's, you know, that's given in the sense that happens. But how long? And at what cost? You know, that's the thing. At what cost? Because So when a person, let's say, I mean, see, again, when we say worldly life, we are, it's our observation. And we are saying okay, but maybe there are certain things that are, you know, like willful sin, or, you know, the kind of lifestyle, the kind of things that they speak, et cetera, we observed. And then we're like, you know, how's God continue to use them. So a lot blesses, the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. We see that in Romans. And so God does that. But again, for how long at what cost? We won't know. Right. And we see church history, and we see even recent happenings. And we see that there's, you know, it's, that's that kind of a lifestyle is positioning one for oneself for a fall. You know, and so we, we don't know, you know, what kind of, and the kind of example that we're sitting, people are, people are clever, people watch, people see that, okay. And the thing is, the next generation, you know, that sees and then they see the outward things. And they say, I've got a call of God, and I should be like this wrong role model. So an entire generation comes up, you know, going after external things. Why, why do you want, you know, they're saying, you know, I want God to use me. Why? I want to preach to thousands. I want to preach to this thing. I want to be, you know, I want to go from one, I want to go on this flight and that flight. People saying young young people saying that this is the thing, you know, I want to, I want to drive like this. I want to. So the role, you know, we are setting we are being wrong role models. So it has repercussions, right? So yeah, that's the thing. But you know, yeah, like God, God does work God does bless, because he knows these eyes people, he knows the hearts of people God does work. But that's, that's why, you know, we can never say, okay, because people lives are transformed. Okay, it's something to do with the minister, you know, we can never authenticate and say, okay, it's because of the effectiveness of this person, we can say that God, we can't say that because God works despite, you know, who we are. And you know them by the fruit. Yeah, by the fruit. So does the transformation of the people's lives considered as fruit? Yeah, so that that that work, sorry, that was the Lord says about about false prophets. And he said, you will know them by their fruit and since the fruit of what they do, the fruit of the eventual outcome of their lives. So it's about that. That doesn't apply here. Not fully. Yeah. So we can't, you know, say, excuse me, so we can't say, okay, this person is being blessed. So therefore, you know, that kind of puts a stamp of approval on everything that the minister does. So I have a small question on this must be clean in life. I don't know if we came to this next thing. Yeah, next. Okay, you, maybe I'll ask after we can, I can ask. Yeah. So when we say must be clean in life. So and also we it comes about the character that we are talking about. So, for example, a preacher or somebody who's struggling with their own things, I'm not saying which are genuinely they're struggling for example, they are struggling with something, a sexual sin maybe. And but they're coming out on the pulpit and they're preaching about the same thing. They are not able to get out of it. Or it might be genuine also. We don't know. So I'm trying to understand if you're saying being clean. My basic understanding is being according to the word of God and being clean in the eyes of God, whatever our consigns or something like that. So but throughout this process, we do go through a lot of things that, you know, might not be very clean. You know, maybe at that point, we are struggling for a long time. And but still, we need to push through it and come in, you know, you know, do, do our job, fulfill our responsibility that God has given the same responsibility that God has given to us. So how do we as ministers are in this process of this, how do we keep us clean? Yeah. And when these obstacles are coming in, how do we, you know, what, what would be the ideal scenario that we could do? I mean, practically possible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so when we consider all this, you know, when we look at being a student of the word, and especially about character, et cetera, we know that we are works in progress. Okay, all of us, we are all works in progress in the sense, we are mature to a certain extent, we are living a consecrated life to a certain extent. And there's always more. It's always a progressive thing. Okay. Now, when we say, okay, I need to be clean in life, I need to be consecrated, living a sanctified life. Yeah, there could be certain things that I'm struggling with. Okay. So, so the question is this, you know, you first thing is, am I willfully, you know, is it a struggle? Is it a struggle? Or is it a surrender? Right? In the sense, I'm not fighting against sin. I'm not fighting against, you know, this anger issue, or, you know, this bitterness issue. I'm just giving in, letting go, surrender, you know, or this addiction, whatever, I'm just letting go. And, you know, I'm just trying to put on another mask when it comes to ministry, just putting on a mask saying, and I'm at preach against the same thing, you know, you need to be clean, right? That's one thing. The second scenario is, I'm genuinely fighting, putting up a fight saying God, you know, I'm working with this, I'm working against it. Now, the thing is this, can such a person go and minister? Okay, if they are struggling, serious, having serious struggle, okay, having serious struggle with addiction, having serious struggle with, you know, whatever issues. Well, the thing is, the great thing to do is to put a pause, get help. Right now, it could be a, it could be a longer process for some. It would be a long process. Put a pause saying, okay, God, you know, I need to, this is interfering, this is hindering. It's not right. My heart is not get help. Because most of the time, we don't want to share because we don't want to, we don't, we feel ashamed. Yeah, feel ashamed, like, what'll that person think? It doesn't have to be with, you know, all in sundry. But it can be with someone whom you look up to, maybe a someone who's a experienced senior person, whom you respect, saying and then share. And so it can be with confidence. It can be, you know, so the person can hold that in confidence and then also work. Maybe it's, you know, it happens, like, people are having a, you know, whatever challenges. So to put a pause and say, you know, maybe a couple of months, I don't want to do this. I don't want to share. I don't want to minister. I'm not going to be traveling ministering. Now, you need to have the boldness and the courage to do that. So that sometimes doesn't happen, unfortunately, saying, okay, I'm the only person. I'm the Azure. I'm the sound guy. I'm the, I'm the preacher. I'm the one who closes the, you know, what do I do? Yeah, it's a, it's a very challenging thing. So, so in such cases, just need to, you know, need to very militantly deal with things, deal with it. Say God, it needs to be dealt with. I'm not going to say and the Lord gives grace. The Lord gives grace, the Lord gives grace, the Lord gives, you know, when you, when you reach out, man, the Lord cleans up. But again, it depends on our availability, our cooperation. It's never forced down on us. So, yeah, so that's the thing. It's a progressive thing. It's, when we, when we talk about things, but there are certain things that's really, you know, it's a, it's a willful thing. It's a, we need to deal with it. Yeah. Having an anger issue. Okay. Like it's regarding to the situations that were around him. And he was constantly trying fighting like, okay, not to burst out, not to burst out, but the situations around were making more and what like he just bursted out and like, he was trying so hard not to burst out not to, you know, throw the chairs off. So I think it's a real life example. I'm getting more and more witness in my heart. It's a real life example. Okay. So, so yeah, so, so you did that. So the thing is, you know, it's, so that's, that's a, that's a classic case of wanting to deal with it. Deal with the anger issue. And so, yeah, yeah, so to find out, okay, how is it? How do I deal with it? So really to get help? Okay. And some wisdom, how do I deal with it? Do I stuff it in? Okay. Like at the marriage goes content that we attended recently. So they're talking about two kinds of people, like two kinds of people who respond to anger. One is like a rhino. Okay, respond to, you know, angry situation one is like a rhino rhino meaning rhino just charge, just charge, no matter what is there, it could be a tank or just hits it and it's got so much strength just keeps running so that's a rhino. The other one is a hedgehog hedgehog is like a pokipine. Pokipine what it does is whenever there is danger, whenever it just goes in, goes within passive. What I, you know, is everything okay? But inside, the temperature is increasing, you know, just boiling, boiling. So, and one day, it'll be something very simple, something very, very ordinary, but then the whole thing bus, right? So, so two kinds of things. So both are wrong. You know, both are not the ideal way to handle things. So the thing is, to find out, okay, how do I handle it? Okay, how do I handle it is to, you know, to get the right tools, okay, to keep short accounts, you know, people say, people, you keep short accounts in the sense that day, that day's thing, you deal with it, you settle it, sort it, take it before the Lord, sort it out, right, and, and release that, release that hurt, and have a conversation if possible, if, if, you know, whoever caused that provocation is there right there, have a conversation, and deal with it. And rather than saying, you know, you always make me do this, say, okay, I always feel, you know, use those I statements, I feel upset when these things happen, I feel up and so those are some ways to deal with it. So not to build up, but to think so. So in that case, how do I handle it? Okay, if it's become a very recurrent thing every day. Okay, so the thing is that maybe an attempt has been made in this case, you know, it's not a willful, it's not like I, you know, I need to do that, you're not going around angry, you know, waiting to pick up a fight, it's not that. So that would be a willful thing, you know, I'm an angry young man, I'm just, you know, ready to, you know, so it's not a willful thing, but your will is involved. So when we say willful, we're talking about, okay, just given in, over to it. Like some people come to the conclusion, they this not working out. So let me just live it, you know, just it's a, it's a question of giving up of hope altogether, and therefore, completely getting into, you know, whatever that's in a sinful activity, sinful thought pattern, whatever, you know, you get into it, because you've given up hope, given up any hope of recovery kind of thing. So that would be a willful thing. But if there is a, like the scripture talks about well, the spirit fights against the flesh against the spirit, spirit against the flesh. So there is that tension, there is that thing, there is that conviction as long as that is kept tender, our heart is kept tender, our consciousness are not seared, then there is always hope for change. Right? Yeah. So, so if it becomes a problem, even if it becomes an issue, then, then I think, just need to take some time off and say, okay, I need, maybe it's a, maybe it's a role, it's a responsibility, whatever I say, I need to take some time off. I just want to, but yeah, and deal with it and then come back, come back stronger, fresher. Yeah. Right? Okay. Online students, any questions or any thoughts that you might have? Please feel free to share as well. Right? Yeah, one more question here. So I was just thinking on these lines. For example, a person who's very clean on concerns on whatever they're doing and stuff. But when you look at their personal life, you don't see much success. For example, they are like living in so much of poverty. You know, there is not much success in there. The things they do personally, you know, maybe in ministry, they are like, you know, flourishing and people are seeing the power of God and all of that. But in their personal lives, they are not able to see, you know, they live in poverty, but they have to preach, you know, opposite to that, but they don't see the thing that they are seeing for others in their lives. Oh, I see. So in that scenario is what I mean, what do we like, how do we take that? Is it like, I'm again coming to the fruit part of it, not in that context, not in the context of a false prophet. But we also need to see, right, how do we look at that person? Okay, in their personal life, only they are not able to see, you know, breakthroughs and stuff what is happening. But, you know, they are flourishing in ministry, you said. So how is that? In what way like you're saying they are flourishing in the sense they're ministering and, you know, as you said, you know, God works despite of anything doesn't, you know, God works through him to that particular person. Okay, God works through that person. But when you see there is like, Oh, there is no fruit in their own personal life. I mean, there's no success in their own personal life. So the thing is, so when we say personal life, okay, let's say, this, I'm only talking about financial context of not financial in any personal life breakthroughs that maybe financial will say, because just to be very specific, okay, maybe financial, maybe, yeah. So the question to ask is, is the person pursuing it really? You know, is a person pursuing it? Is a person working towards it? Okay, because so the Lord, the Lord gives gives us strategies. The Lord gives us ideas. In order, he leads, he's the Lord of breakthrough, he leads us. So, you know, I could be like red hot on fire for God in certain areas. And maybe I could think that these are not things worth pursuing maybe, or maybe think I'm not qualified enough. There could be a number of reasons, you know, or it could be a choice that I make, saying that this is how I want to live. Right? There's no drive for like a better life in the early sense, you know, maybe, you know, I'm satisfied with this, like, like some people we see, you know, like, I think I'm satisfied with three shirts and two, two jeans. I say one jean one week. You know, let's say you're satisfied with that. So those kind of things. But if the person is trying and not succeeding, then that's a, that's an issue. So that's the question, you know, is the person trying genuinely trying, I want to come up, I want to, you know, get out of this kind of a situation. But I'm not able to. Is that the situation? That is the situation. He chose to live like this. I don't know if it makes sense or not. I take this example for the pastor, Ashish. So when we when I personally see the church congregation will come in Bench girls and Audi girls and pastor will come in normal. So he chose that life. It's it's all his, I mean, his, his wish. He chose that life. Maybe it's, I mean, it's this personal fruitfulness is not only about the finances and things. Maybe they're very happy, joyful in their life, being like that. It's a personal decision saying that, okay, this is how I'm going to live. You know, I will. Yeah. So but I think what? Yeah, that's what I think. Yeah. So the thing is, okay, this is what they're trying to do. And they're not succeeding. I really don't know. Maybe, maybe they are trying wrong. You know, it could be maybe from a place of, yeah. I think you should answer. You studied enough. Yeah. So the thing is, yeah, so it could be, it could be it's difficult to really point out, okay, this is it, but it could be several things. Maybe the person is not pursuing. But like you're saying, you know, the person is trying genuinely trying. So, so in which case, you know, maybe if it's a career or, you know, some things like that, okay, so have they, you know, some practical things, I'm just thinking of my head, some things like have they upgraded their skill level, you know, as in order to position themselves for a next level, maybe for promotion, etc. Are they being excellent in their work? Or, you know, there are so many factors, right? What are what is their attitude? For example, I'll tell you, you know, when I was, I was not in full time ministry, but I was just, you know, just considering and I was working. But my attitude towards work was very bad. Very bad. You know, I'll give my everything for ministering on in church on Sunday, right? It was very tough. It was very tough because I was to travel during the week. Monday night, I would travel come back Thursday or Friday, and then they would be worship team practice, whatever. Yeah, and then, you know, and then we had a daughter who was small at that time. So whole Sunday would be we'll spend in church. And then Monday night, I'll have to travel again. Right? So it was that kind of thing. But my attitude towards work, I would say, very, very confidently, it was bad. I was just living for the weekend. Who gave me that job? God, I have to be faithful there. I have to be excellent there. But I was not. Despite that, you are somehow wise grace enabled me to, you know, achieve my targets and everything month after month, etc. But I could have done so much more. If I had this understanding that this was a mission field, right, I had to and I have to show by example, I have to be excellent in my way to do a good day's work. I'll go late to office, not one day have I gone early. Seriously. So every office started by nine, I'll be there 915 just run in 930. So my on, you know, my boss gave me a farewell party when I left. So everybody sitting around. So he said this, he said, you know, they used to call me JK, he said, for JK, I tried threatening him, I tried all methods, but I could never make him come to office on time. But he said something, he said, this place where he is going, since he's passionate about what he's wants to do, you know, maybe he'll go there at eight o'clock and not nine. You know, it was like a prophetic thing. So it starts at eight, no? South So, yeah, so, so it could be many things. So unless we find out, okay, what is it? There will be a reason. There will be a reason. Maybe there's some things that need to change. Maybe there's a season that they're going through. And they're, maybe it's a season where they're continuing to you know, continue to do continue to so and they will see the fruit of it. It could be many things. Yeah, okay. Yeah, God's timing and season, but God, see, what is the season? It's a season of sowing. It's a season of God is building strength. What is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what, what does it depend on really? You know, that's the thing, no? Use the mic. Yeah, maybe I have to wait for God's timing or anything like that. Yeah, so so when we look at it in the natural, like, workwise, you know, you're talking about workwise, no, workwise, there could be reasons like this. You know, in the natural, you know, am I putting in effort? Is my effort good? Is my effort excellent? Am I really engaged in what I'm doing? So we'll check all that before blaming it on God. You know, this is God's doing. It's marvelous in our eyes. No, you don't come to that conclusion so soon. You know, there could be other reasons. You check that. Because God really wants to wants us to do well. Do you really want your son or daughter to just be in one season of, you know, you, of course, you want them to learn the lessons, of course, but then you want to engage with them and then take them through, right? That's that'll be your heart. So how much more heavenly father? Okay. Okay, I think we're done. Maybe we should just skip this thing and get get into preaching. Okay, so that's good. So, so the thing is, what qualifies us, you know, all these factors, and, and, like, to say a person of, you know, just just to sum up, you know, in these five essential requirements to be a person after God's own heart, to be a person of the word, character, prayer, and ability as well, right? So to take that up seriously, so that God can really use us. And this he really wants to do that, wants us to be spokespersons, ambassadors of his kingdom. That's God's desire. So, yeah, so that we would align ourselves that we would build ourselves in all these areas, right, for his glory. Okay, so next chapter is about the ministry of the word. Okay, so what are we preaching the content of what we are communicating? Okay, so that's, that's really important. And why it's important. We'll come to that, right? Okay, so we'll stop here, right? Okay. Online students, any, any questions? I know you've been required. Any questions or anything that you might want to, okay? I see one thumbs up. Okay. Okay, so we'll stop here. And then we'll pick it up next week. God bless. Bye bye.