 Playoffs playoffs. Yes playoffs. It's nice that we can have the comfort No, no, no, it's nice that we can be in the conversation when it comes to the playoffs because the Ravens Even with everything that they've been through this year with all the drama with all the injuries with all the mistakes with everything They are a playoff team and when you're a playoff team, you got a chance You got a shot, but how much of a shot how much of a chance? Do you really think these Baltimore Ravens have well? I look forward to hearing from y'all, but I also look forward to hearing from some very special guests So they can let us know exactly how much these Ravens have a shot at winning and maybe how much another team does to Well, that's my homey ain't that right engraving That's the team keep it clean to very very special guests in the building We got the fellas from the Winston atty podcast ace and zim before I introduce it Well, I guess I can introduce already, but I just got to say I am very proud of What y'all got going on over there. I'm very proud of you all creating your own lane I love to see people do their own thing their own way I like how you know how when we might be on Twitter or something and we'll see like a quote From some football play about whatever and ESPN they'll have they'll put out a picture to quote They'll show the player and stuff and they'll show their own little quotation marks You know they're fine But I've been seeing especially recently when it'll be a quote or to be stats or something and it'll say Winston atty Pod and it'll have y'all y'all fine on there and whatnot in your logo. I say, okay I see those boys, man. They they y'all got such a professional Field to it in a professional aspect of it But y'all still making fun in the process because a lot of people they they can't do professional and fun They don't think the two go together, but y'all two definitely do that So I want to say first before we get into the game I appreciate what y'all do and I love what y'all do and I'm proud of the fact that y'all two are doing it The way y'all been doing and I love the the relationship that y'all have established Obviously y'all y'all close with a lot of the players and coaches and personnel and whatnot and a lot of the teammates their family and stuff so that's real right there because Doing what you do, especially like what do you want to call it podcast content creation? Whatever you want to call it doing what you do is a very It's a very tricky lane because we talk about the players We talk about the performances and we want to be honest, but at the same time y'all do it with respect So it takes it definitely shows that the the players and their families and stuff They respect what y'all do and the way that y'all talk about the team and whatnot because they still come to y'all with stuff They still respect your work and they still got love for y'all. So I appreciate what y'all do No, man, we appreciate that got to give you your flowers too, man Doing what you've done on YouTube at the level that you've done Outside of just the Ravens is the impact that you've had as well, bro. We definitely appreciate you as well Yes, I appreciate it man Appreciate y'all coming on man. And let's uh appreciate you having us. Oh, yeah Yeah, for sure. You already know what time it is I wanted to have y'all on for for week 18 but stuff was just crazy busy and stuff still crazy busy But who apparently some stuff seems crazy dirty I've been seeing a lot of talk been about the Ravens being a little extra chippy I got a little extra chippy in that last so that week 18 game How do y'all feel about that game and and if you feel do you feel like that set like the sort of sort of president a President for this game moving forward. Oh, how do you feel about was it dirty? Was there some foul play going on or what was me and ace actually talked about this like on our last episode of Winston Addy Pah, but for me, I don't know some bangles fans will classified as dirty For from for my vantage point. I don't think that it was dirty I just think that and I don't think Roquan is a dirty player or like any like the hit on T Higgins, I don't think that's a dirty play with the point that I was making is I thought that it was unnecessary And unnecessary and dirty get have gray areas too because from you know, depending on what kind of fan You are like some bangles fans don't like Ocho Sinko when he used to celebrate. I loved it. They thought it was unnecessary You know what I mean? It was one of it like that concept of so when I watch football now I know I have I know I have a really good team In fact, I think it's probably the best team that I've ever witnessed in my entire Bangles fandom or offense and defense and it is somewhat debatable, right? But when people watch us, I think that they look for like us to just finish plays do everything on the field And ball out all the chipping is the after stuff that I deem unnecessary I'm like, I don't need to do that. I'm just a better team So when I see teams that do this, this isn't the first like week one Mika Fitzpatrick was out there like head hunting like you wouldn't believe when we play the jest They knock T Higgins out the game like we watch this every single week So when I see dirty players, I know it or the chipping is or whatever So when I see it, I just say I think that that team feels like they aren't better than me That's why they have to get a psychological edge and do these things Unnecessarily like after the play now I could be wrong I taught the players and I feel like you like, you know, like there's a lot of resentment and stuff there too Roquon was late to the party But at the same time, he hangs around people that understand some of the things that transpired last year So I think when he plays, he probably holds some of that weight with them because he's playing with his brothers So I don't think the bangle should be playing like that If you talk to an average bangle fan, I say don't fall into the trap If you're talking to like most of the comments I see for the Ravens, man, they like do more of that Like it's going let's let's get Jamar like am I tell you the wildest thing We're saying that Roquon is people are saying he dirty or chippy or whatever Then then uh, then uh, Ravens give a new contract for Roquon Smith I'm like, all right. So not only are they seeing that then the timing of it. It's just wild. It's a wild world. We live there Yeah, for me, I don't think uh, Roquon Smith technically was really dirty in the game And from what I heard like there were a lot of people upset with like zim said the unnecessary stuff But I think from his perspective that's just trying to get into a good player's head like sometimes if you can't Match up with someone physically and I say he can't but when you got a guy like Jamar chase Sometimes you got to try to play mind games with him to get him out of his game to get him out of his character Uh, so I didn't think that he necessarily did anything dirty I think the only things that some of the players said because I kind of went back and looked at what cam taylor bread I believe said to the reporter. He said that there was unnecessary stuff after the play and there were guys diving that Lower lower, uh, I guess foots or ankles whatever you want to call it needs And so, you know, you look at the alex kappa injury. It's hard to say whether that's dirty or not It looks suspect It's kind of like you kind of got to get somebody to benefit of the doubt or you're going to blame them Depending on how you look at that play another play that I saw was cam sample He got his legs taken out on a play as well So I think a lot of it was them just feeling like hey You didn't have to take my legs that you could have went somewhere else And I says not necessarily that the game was too physical, but honestly, how does that play into this one? These teams just don't like each other man We knew this last year when there was a lot of talk between the teams last season and I think a lot of that trickled over I think I even saw ravens player said that it necessarily wasn't really dirty plays But guys that just have beef with each other that don't like each other So maybe it's some of that uh, will that spill over into this game? Yes I think it is we've seen this before from a bagel standpoint I think the last time we saw it was in 2015 with the Steelers It was the week before that people were playing it down Oh, it's not going to get chippy and all of that and it definitely got a little physical I don't think it'll be players trying to hurt each other, but there will be some big hits. I think from both sides Oh, yeah, you you already know especially because that week 18, that was a regular season That was the last game of the regular season, but now like this the stakes are so much higher. This is like win Are you out? Like that's it. I ain't no, okay. Oh, we got to get better next week. Oh, okay. We got to work on. No, that's it That's a wrap. So players is going to be bringing it Um and just so many different ways, but how is the atmosphere right now? Among Cincinnati Bengals fans uh back in the playoffs again I know there were a lot of people that felt like oh man Cincinnati They lost in the Super Bowl. They're gonna have that Super Bowl hangover and then the way that the season started too It was looking a bit rough, but then Cincinnati, they got hot. So how Bengals fans feeling right now about the squad? I think we're feeling very confident, but I think we also feel a little slighted, right? Like like you said, there was talk of regression. There's all of this talk We get the coin toss stuff thrown in there We don't even get the opportunity to get the second seed whatsoever We don't get a coin toss for if we do advance and play Buffalo We don't get a coin toss in that situation So I think a lot of the fans feel like we've got a chip on our servers A lot of people are talking about the Bengals versus everybody and it really shouldn't be like that But that's kind of what we've kind of been pigeonholed into basically being at this point So I think fans are just ready for the game to get started and ready to prove that This team does belong that last year wasn't a fluke and that it is the Bengals versus everybody Does anyone want to chime in? Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I feel like the team is ready, guys are really hyped I don't think they need necessarily bulletin board material But I think there were a lot of takeaways from that game So I know from the player standpoint, now they have an extra incentive to play in this game And probably go a hundred miles per hour And I just think one of the untold stories from that Monday night game Was that your this is probably the biggest Monday night game in Bengals history The crowd was electric like like nobody had ever seen The emotional You know build up to get to that the tailgate all these different things Then you come out there and you start out the game like that on fire I've never seen paycore stadium like that. And so Joe Burrow goes to The podium yesterday and he's just like I've never been in a part in the atmosphere like that before I don't know if he was just saying that just because he wants to get the Bengals fan height Keep in mind he played that valley with a hundred thousand people. So I don't know that's kind of crazy to me But it was super super electric And I think fans as as much as we care about DeMar Hamlin and the situation There's a lot of I'm not even going to say resentment But there's a lot of unfinished business for a night game. And I think that I mean I was just talking to People just now to say bro, we're going to be at the tailgate at like 12 o'clock And I'm like man the game ain't you know, it's a bro. They're they're ready and they're on fire. So You know, I think a lot of the circumstances have changed and then you got a division opponent all these different things So everybody's pretty high Joe Burrow called for everybody to be louder than what they were last week Oh, yeah, and I do remember um I remember being just as excited to watch that game as I was to watch the Raven game that that Bengals and Beals game I was looking forward to it and I was so glad I like I love when Is games that I look forward to and they're not at the same time So I can't watch the game in peace. Watch it in full. I ain't got to be flipping back and forth or whatnot um, and then of course, we know what happened, but um It's the energy is going to be crazy there It's going to be crazy and I did watch while watching the game and I even tweeted about it too. I'm like, man So these bangles they just moved down to feel it easy. They made it look so easy but with That game they they did start off making it look easy, but then in this last game um It didn't look so easy Because the the the bingles they uh, why they did score points There were a lot of turnovers by the Baltimore Ravens the Ravens are pretty much Gifted them 21 points based off of turnovers early and that was a huge difference in the game Of course, you you lose by 11 points. Uh, they score 21 points off a turnover. That's big Um, so how how much of a chance are y'all giving the Baltimore Ravens in this playoff game? It's not looking like Lamar Jackson is going to play So it's probably going to be either Tyler Huntley or Anthony Brown But how much of a chance are y'all giving these Baltimore Ravens this week? Based on what we just seen and based on there's two different Lines in defense that I must I'm a outline. The first one is it is a division opponent I think Mike McDonald has some things that Clearly make burl feel uncomfortable because two of his worst games in the season were this past week and week five Right, so that's the one thing but I'm going to take it on the other end too Burl also has a habit of if you show him or he has enough time to look at film one different things He has enough time to come back in the tone for different things too And anytime that he comes back and rematches up, you know, like with someone this is first time playing against Roquon I think that he'll be able to come back and say, you know, like these are the different things that we're going to do different I also think that our offense they held a lot of things back I thought our defense Didn't play guys like trey hindricks in a full game. He only played 18 snaps DJ reader only played half the snaps I thought that they played and they they didn't hold anything back I feel like they played hard because you can't go half like playing football because you could potentially get hurt You know like playing that way So I won't say that they they took their foot off the guys But I think that they held some things back and I think that goes the same on both sides So I don't build too much into How many points they score because I think that they got to a point in the game where they didn't want to show everything And I think that went both ways. So I think it's an interesting magnet and I'll tell you this The bangles are this is the hardest defense that the bangles would be playing If they were to get past this game and get to a super ball until they get to the nfc side This is by far like I think the toughest defensive matchup That they would see and as far as the chances go for them winning the game Because the defense is really good and because the defense did find form For the baltimore ravers. I do get them about a 30 35 shot of winning the game I just don't think that they can score enough points But I have seen the browns come out early in the game And defensively that game was zero to zero With eight minutes left in the second quarter of that game and then the defense mouse gear starts causing Turnovers whatever gives them short fills before I know we're down like 14 17 points They get the ball back at hat time then they start running the football So those are the formulas and I've seen the bangles lose that way. So I can that is a scenario I can see playing out Yeah, for me, I think when you look at the ravens defense, that's where it starts That's always going to give them a chance I feel like in any game that they go against and this was once a Unit that was at the bottom of the league now They're at the top of the league when it comes to that like you said as well the new defensive coordinator I think joe burrow definitely did struggle with that There was a lot of that covered to those looks and the bangles were trying to see some things We're going into the shotgun and trying to spread them out and trying to take advantage of those Matchups with jamar chasing the slide and with toller boy It's always going to be a chess match But the one thing that I will say is the bangles defense is just really good when it comes to winning the turnover differential battle Like just this team in general. They've been top 10 in this season. That's been kind of their bread and butter I mean, even if you go back to the Patriots game, they were pretty much going to lose that game And then they force a fumble in the red zone to recover there So this team has just been really good at getting turnovers when it comes to that Turnover differential is always going to win you the game no matter which game it is I feel like if you turn the ball over it's hard for you to win So I understand where ravens fans are coming from when they say, you know We did give the bangles this field position and stuff like that Anything you're going to have to limit that that's how the boss or more ravens could win this game They wouldn't have turned over differential battle. You guys probably win the game I do think the ravens have a chance just because of that defense But I do think that joe burrow is a guy and we kind of saw this last year in An in between years with wink martindale his rookie year versus the next year Once he starts to get a feel of a defensive coordinator He starts to get better with making those decisions And I think it's no secret that joe burrow himself as well as bingles fans will tell you he struggled in that last game Do I expect him to struggle the same? I just This dude is so cerebral. I just can't see him doing that But I do think that the ravens will always have a chance in this game It's just going to come down to like zem said what can they do offensively and the thing about the bingles is everybody talks about the Offense, but they don't talk about how good the defense is as well And I think these are two good defenses that are going to wash each other out And it's going to come down to who can convert in the red zone in this game Oh, yeah, for sure. That's some way we've definitely been struggling at the red zone um, so to close this out Give me one each yard to give me one player on each team For the bingles was one player that has to go off in order for y'all to have success And for the ravens, what's one player that you feel like that just cannot go off So the ravens don't have success Go ahead, sir I'm gonna go with trey hinderson what I saw from him on ronnie stanley On on on money. I would be very very very concerned if I was a ravens fan. He only played 18 snaps I mean the the strip sap fumble in the end zone That that that was that was probably ronnie stanley's worst game as an nfl pro Like just trey hinderson 18 snaps four pressures two quarter back hits fumble for sack He was going ballistic. That's the one guy. Trey hinderson can keep up that same thing Um, then you know, I feel like it's curtains. I think whoever's back there Even if lamar comes out there with a superman k born You don't want to be running from trey hinderson every single play Just because you can't get help it then that gives it puts the the onus on i mean on them to go and give Help on that side now you that's one less guy going out on the route The bangles defense like ace was just saying has given the lowest completion percentage and the lowest passing raider Out of any team in the nfl currently this season They've only allowed one 300-yard passer and that was tom brady who got about 80 of that in garbage time at the end of the game These are the untold stories of the bangles defense So I don't care who's out there the defense and trey hinderson caused a lot of problems They don't get a lot of sacks, but that's that the on the opposite end. I would say If it can can I take a unit if o way In like, you know, like just the edge pressure if they go off Calls turnovers and different things like that That is the formula to beating the bangles to me is in the games that we lost. It was michael parsons tj white Early pressure from justin houston when we played you guys and then we came back again and lost again to miles gear Anybody that didn't have elite pass russian in the game They did nothing to joe burrow I think for me the most instrumental guy for the bangles dj reader This is a guy that's going to have to try to stop a running team. This is a guy that is just Intracle too. I think the bingles run defense in it when you're facing the team like the ravens that like to run He is going to be an integral part of this for the ravens the guy that you can't let get off on you in this game There's a couple guys I was thinking mark any room But actually i'm going to go with jk dobbins if they cannot slow down jk dobbins Who is a guy that can keep that bingles offense off of the field by continuing to push the chains? That could be a potential issue So I think jk dobbins is the guy that you got to start and i've heard ravens fans say ever since jk dobbins has come back I believe he's leading the league in yards per carry So that's the guy that I would focus in on slowing down as jk dobbins You can't let him have a field day To keep this offense off of the field because that will allow the ravens to do what they do best Controlling the time of possession All right, so appreciate y'all a good real good answers and hopefully in our far case Those players will end up going off, but we'll see how it goes. But I appreciate y'all coming on Um the links to their twitters and shout out to zen for getting this twitter back. Welcome back to the twitter world Welcome For the links to the twitter, uh, the winston addy podcast all of that stuff will be down below in the description Uh, just let everybody know what they could find y'all that one more time on the way out Winston addy pod is the twitter name It's just since an addy with a w in front of it You know changing up to see winston addy pod pod and that's on twitter and instagram Me and a's both have a twitter I'm zem who day on twitter and instagram and a's the same new stripe city on twitter and instagram We also have a website too for like merch new stripe city.com and zem who day dot com All right, perfect. So all of that will be down below in the description so y'all could check it out again Appreciate y'all coming on again and this sunday night. May the best team win Boy, he like automated automated. Well, that's my homie ain't that riding graven riding graven Shout out to graven