 So up next, we have one of our founding members of Cloud Foundry Foundation. We have Mark Gill, SVP and GM of the SAP Cloud Platform Partner Innovation Group. Mark, you're going to come up and do a demo for us, right? Mark Gill, come on and join us on stage. Come on, you're doing a demo? Yes, demo. Which way are you going? We're excited to have you on stage and join us here in Basel. Thank you for taking the train down. Thank you for having me. I wasn't expecting to be up on stage. We had a slight last-minute change, but thank you for representing SAP. Bjorn Geerke was planning to be here, but had something come up. So we're excited, though, to have Mark here, because Mark is able to talk about one of my favorite topics, ecosystem. But first, SAP has been a founding member of the Cloud Foundry Foundation and have recently announced early this year that the SAP Cloud Platform runs on Cloud Foundry as officially out and open for business. There's been an exciting amount of buzz and interest around that. Talk a little bit about the launch and what it did and what it represents for SAP. I mean, it's huge for SAP. I mean, our strategy is very much about how do we help our customers innovate? How do they take advantage of digital transformation themselves? But our customers also have a very diverse set of requirements. So multi-cloud, as your survey showed, is super important to our customers. We need to provide them with choice. They often have regulatory requirements or geographical requirements in terms of where they want their applications, where they need their workloads managed. So multi-cloud helps us with that. So we were very pleased to announce the fact that SAP Cloud Platform is available on AWS, it's available on Azure, it's available in GCP. We also obviously run it on our own data centers as well. So that choice, that flexibility, that ability to provide our customers with applications and innovation in the areas and locations they need is critical for them. Absolutely. So you're changing both SAP and your customers? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, customer first at the end of the day. And we want to take advantage of the high-scale vendors. We want to take advantage of best-in-class scalability and availability. Absolutely. One of the things that's been so fascinating to me about SAP, and it wasn't something that was readily noticeable to me before being part of the Cloud Foundry community, is SAP's investment in open source. And I actually learned a lot this morning, even more on that. But SAP, as I said, has been a founding member of the Cloud Foundry Foundation since the beginning, but recently announced last week at TechEd that it's now also a platinum member of the Cloud Native Computing Foundation. Can you talk a little bit about the importance of open source to SAP and the direction that SAP is taking it? Absolutely. I think open source is maybe SAP's second best-kept secret after Cloud Platform. As you mentioned, we were a founding member of Cloud Foundry Foundation. We see open source as a differentiator for us, because we want to take advantage of that broad ecosystem, the diversity that you talked about in your keynote. Within Cloud Foundry, we worked on a number of projects, whether it's around Bosch, whether it's around OpenStack CPI, Service Fabric. So there's a lot of energy that our developers are looking to put back in. But we also think it enables us to produce better software for our customers and helps us differentiate by taking advantage of that diversity, but also making sure that we put a lot back in. Another area where we've been very focused, we were one of the founding members of Eclipse. I didn't know that till today. That was the fun fact for today. On the tool side, obviously the discussion before about the importance of tools, we see that as well as we want to enable our developers and our ecosystem partners. We're also a member in Apache Olingo looking to drive standards around OData, which is critical in terms of sharing information, exchanging data. We're super excited by the changing name around Kubo and obviously the focus on container runtimes. As you mentioned, we recently announced two weeks ago in Las Vegas that we were also joining CNCF. We see that need to offer a diversity of workloads. We see a common ground or that ability to move towards a common ground in terms of the great work we're doing with Cloud Foundry, but also aligning that with the Kubernetes community to take advantage of both. Open source is critical. It helps us help our customers. We've been doing it a long time. Open source is a differentiator for you, which I feel like is a game-changing moment in the conversation around open source. Yeah, absolutely. We shouldn't forget that as an application provider, there's a lot of experience and domain expertise we have there, but the community is king at the end of the day. Absolutely. We firmly believe that here as well. I couldn't have you up on stage and not talk about the power of ecosystem. SAP is world-renowned for your partner ecosystem and the innovation you do with your partners. You want to talk a little bit about what that means for you and what Cloud Platform represents for you? Absolutely. I think on the last presentation, there was some talk about business model and business model change. Platform as a business model is ecosystem-driven. There is no value without innovation occurring on the platform. Our strategy and our approach is to take our 15,000 partners that we have and really help them as they make that journey to the Cloud, but also taking advantage of platform-based business models. We have over 700 ISVs that are building applications, building scenarios that augment SAP's core product and deliver additional value. It could be line of business use case, it could be industry use cases. It could be taking advantage of a lot of the innovation that we're driving on the platform, which I'm hoping is going to be the next question. We've got, I think, over 1,000 SIs and consulting partners that are driving digital transformation projects for our customers. We've got a bunch of developers around ABAP that we're now enabling to bring to the Cloud through some of the announcements that we've made about making ABAP available on Cloud Foundry or on SAP Cloud Platform. For those of you that aren't familiar with ABAP, what is ABAP again? ABAP is some language that SAP has been using for 40 years and has been using to drive. You know, our application portfolio. We've got a few developers out there that love to stay current and we're making sure that they are. It's not to be confused with ADAT from Star Wars. If it'd been Bjorn, you'd have to have gone with the Star Trek, not with the Star Wars. True. Star Trek. On the topic of innovation and the future, where do you see this going for SAP? SAP Cloud Platform is just getting started. Where do you see the future? We're getting started with 7,000 customers. I mean, innovation is critical. I mentioned the importance of multi-clouds so that we can abstract the infrastructure layer, make it as accessible everywhere. But then we need to innovate on top. Really, what we're looking at and is how do we innovate around three specific types of service? One, bringing our own technology services to bear on the platform, things like HANA as the market leading in memory database, bringing that onto the platform. Looking at how we take our 40 years of industry experience and delivering that as microservices that can be reused so our customers and partners can innovate using that industry best practice. And then the third is out and out innovation services. So we launched a branding around Leonardo at Sapphire early in the year and there we're bringing our innovation labs capabilities around things like machine learning and IoT and blockchain and turning it into tangible business benefit. So in machine learning we've introduced capabilities that automates invoice matching so that you can drive automation within the business. We've applied it to the recruitment process so that you can do CV matching and hopefully get better employees into the business, understand the skills that you require and match those to the workforce that is out there. Around IoT we saw the discussion around the digital twin. We're looking at how do we capture the digital twin again as a set of services where we can speed innovation around IoT. And blockchain which is sometimes a little bit more nebulous, we're looking into new industries like or healthcare and life sciences and looking at how we can do next generation tracking trace using blockchain to ensure authenticity of prescription drugs that are in the marketplace. So a lot of innovation is how we want to differentiate the platform because that's how we help our customers drive more business value. It's exciting SAP is investing a lot. Absolutely. It's going to change the landscape I think. Well thank you so much for joining us here at Cloud Foundry Summit Basil. Thank you. We're glad you were up here and we'll tell Bjorn he was missed but we were glad you got to pitch him for him. We're glad to be here. Everyone should try it. Those APIs, platforms available for free. If you go to cloudplatform at SAP or cloudplatform.sap.com then give it a go. We'd love to have you involved. What's the password? I don't know. Don't talk to me about passwords. That's why I couldn't do the demo. All right. Well thank you so much Mark for coming by and we'll get you entangled. Thank you so much for coming by. Thank you.