 We'll be on fire, we'll be lit lit It's a unique hustle, big shit Big shit, big shit, huh It's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit Big shit, big shit, huh Name another podcast like this We're gonna bring it to the table Boss talk, we're your girlfriend Check it, check it, check it, it's using Hustler as your boy, he's CEO and I'm here with a lovely, amazing official, Mr. Mako, what's going on? Nah, nah, you know me, they'll walk on Man, hey, we got a special guest in here y'all today Man, she from California, man And I'ma get specific What part of California is, what is it? It's Sacramento Sacramento, wow I'm a capital city chick Say all the way to Dallas, Texas This is our first time in Dallas y'all, check it, man Check it, man, Ms. Martina, AKA Hustler Mom It's going down in Boss Talk 101 today What's going on? Man, I'm just in your beautiful city And this is the first time I've been in Dallas And you know, I'm just wanting to, you know See some more of Dallas, I haven't been doing anything But you haven't turned up yet I haven't turned up yet, I've been just taking care of business Going to Austin for that one event they had Side by side with Yes, and you know, coming here to Boss Talk Exactly, you know, yeah Boss Talk 101, what a boss is talk Yes, and me and Ken, you know, Pimp and Ken We're doing a podcast called A View From the Game Shout out And so that's what I'm here for too You know, we're going across country And getting a view from a game from different, you know Divisions and different, you know Cities with different cultures But what we do have in common is this ism And you know, changing your life over and transitioning That's the main thing about our show You know, people that's been in the game and transitioning to something else Because you can't do this forever and ever and ever You know, it's in you, not on you, but you know It, it, it, it, you know It, it, it, it expires I got it, so I know when we were in New Jersey We interviewed with you, which that's coming out soon But we want to get more in depth with what we were talking about And I know when you said, um You started out in this lifestyle What you started out seeing was your brothers, right? So how old were you when you decided that you wanted to do this? And then how did you step out and get your first, um, P? Is that what you? Pimp Okay, the first pimp How old were you when you actually did that? And how did you? I was 20 You were 20 I was 20 years old, like, I've been new about the game But I've been, like, you know Breaking on boys and breaking on dudes and all that But actually, like, activating my horn And hitting a concrete Hitting the concrete, going to a red light district Actually selling my body I was 20 years old It was June 1st, 1985 You know the exact date I know, it was a Saturday night in San Francisco And it was lit But you said one of your brothers were sort of, like, protected Because in the story you told You said that whenever he was coming to the house Y'all would run inside and put on, like, longer pants And stuff like that When you were a teenager But I'm 20, I'm grown Right, I would think that he was still I had a baby at 17, so 20 I'm grown, I wish your mother would tell me something You know, I'm grown, grown I had a baby Oh, okay You know what I'm saying? My brother's cross-country They're doing their own thing And I decided to get down with the get-down So, like, when I was younger Yeah, we were scared of our brother You know what I'm saying? Like, strict, like Do right in school, do this, do that But I'm a 20-year-old woman working at the post office Sort and male Wasn't making enough money And it wasn't making enough money And I needed a rainbow-brite bedroom set For my beautiful little daughter Okay And I just went It started on the weekend and it just was, like, full blown Once you get that money How much money did you make that first time? The first night, I made $500 And I was with a white girl named Kim She had blue eyes and blonde hair And this Italian girl named Terry But, like I said before in one of my interviews I don't think that my night would have turned out That spectacular had I been by myself Or with some other black girls And that's not knocking black girls I'm saying white girls can get in places Where other people can't And I'm a cute black girl I'm with the Italian girl and a blonde girl We looking like a girl group You know what I'm saying? Our Charlie's Angels And it was no undenying us You know what I'm saying? Anybody, any trick to see Is, you know, they're giving us what we wanted How did you choose your pimp? How did I choose my pimp? Because you end up with them So you end up with their pimp No, no, no So you just walked out on the track and be like This is what I wanted to do that night You didn't have a pimp that night? No, I wanted, I wanted not it Okay, so you did not have a pimp that night? No, I went out with them And I turned out, but they did have a man But he was like a dope boy Oh Yeah, so I was out there When I was out there on the track I ran into a real pimp And, you know, like He wasn't no dope dealer He wasn't selling dope He was straight getting it from the womb And his name was Curtis Good Up out of Berkeley, California Wow And he was up the nest pimp Real calm, real mellow He wasn't, you know, beating women And, you know, really calm Talk to you and everything Because you knew about the game So you knew what to look for What not to look for and all of that I liked him Okay But, okay, so he got really sick And he died So he was your first pimp? He was my first So you chose him or he chose you? How did a pimp choose you? I don't know That's not how we go That's not how we go I don't know, I'm asking He spent his pimpin' at me Okay And I chose up Oh, you chose, okay Got a man, a pimp Don't choose, choose, choose up I mean, I choose down Okay I mean, choose up He turn up, you know what I'm saying? Because I was talking to somebody earlier And I was saying for Y'all, what you You called me green Because I don't know a lot of stuff about You know, the business and stuff like that And I only know from what I see on TV And when I see pimps or hoes Or anything like that What I do see, I see whether Them being controlling Them, if you step out of place They might beat you, they might this, that, you know But somebody's telling me it's not always like that It's not like that That shit is like TV, you know And that's where you see these imposters You know, they're not real pimps These imposters They watch those same shows you watch And they do that to bitches And then give them a bad taste And they mouth about the game Because they didn't ran across an imposter But real pimping Real pimping ain't gonna do that You know what I'm saying? Real pimping gonna make you a better bitch And that's what I know You know what I'm saying? I was raised around it And how does that make you better? Because then a couple of things that I was Because some bitches don't know what to do Like I seen a lady that lived down the street from me She was a big, fat, brunette, white girl And I seen her a year later She was skinny and she had blind hair I said, bitch, pimping, being good to you I mean, she been on all the whole strolls That bitch lost all that weight She was looking good She did something for her family to pimp You know, helped her, you know what I'm saying? Put her in school She would have never made all those, you know what I'm saying? She would have never completed all these endeavors That she have achieved in her life So I would still go to school and do all that stuff Yes, if you got a good one Okay It's not dead I'm just gonna look you guys in the eye Pimping ain't dead It's just some imposters out there Okay You know, and I'm not telling girls To go out there and choose and all that I'm not condoning that because I'm retired Right I'm retired If a motherfucker could come up with some big old money You know I'm taking it You know what I'm saying? Dusting them hoes I'm dusting them hoe wheels off But then like the first night when you were out there by yourself And you got the $500 That went straight to you I wouldn't buy myself, I was with the girls So you still had to share that money with the girls? No, no, no, no, no They was helping me, but that You know, I went and bought my daughter But all that $500 goes straight to you It was me, it was me But then when you have a pimp You gotta pay him or give him the money, right? Sure do Okay, so Every last cent Every last cent Every last cent Because what he does, he pays your bills He takes care of you He pays, gets your hair done When people feel like Oh, that's your money that he's doing this with Okay, but Like I got with like Kenny Red, he had hella bitches Like when I got with Kenny Red I wanted to be a part of his organization It was dangerous, but it was exciting, you know And I seen how his bitches looked And I seen how he handled his business So I chose him upon those qualities And I felt like And you had another pimp at that time You left him and went with Kenny Red I left him and went with Kenny But he got sick And he passed away, the first dude Kurt died, you know Rest in peace, Kurt is good Rest in peace Up out of Berkeley, man, you know But yeah, so that's how I got with Kenny So when I got with Kenny, I was a ready-made bitch I had my own car, own crib You know what I'm saying? And he liked that So I had all everything, first Everything I was a ready-made bitch You know, I can get in my car and go where I want to Jump in the plane, go cross country You know what I'm saying? And be on in Matty You know, so it wasn't like You know, when I got with Kenny Or I helped Kenny with his, you know Me and him were like, dang together You know what I'm saying? And how long you were with Kenny for? I was with Kenny for about like seven years Yeah, Kenny has shit already I had stuff already You know what I'm saying? We build, you know No, so because I'd be like Okay, so what's the difference between Having a pimp compared to you just have A husband or boyfriend or something Because a boyfriend or a husband He still will pay for your hair done Your nails done, pay the bills, do all of that Sort of stuff So what's the difference, except from That's what pimp is Pimp is your boyfriend and your dad Except you're going out here And sleeping with other men Yeah, and You're using condoms So you told Like a square would not have no understanding Okay But a pimp is gonna love you to death You know, you use condoms Prostitutes are the most cleanest females In the world That's what I was wondering because You know, we are so clean Like we keep our Gucci wax You know, we wear the best of the best We smell good Everybody Everybody, I mean even with a jack off You know what I'm saying Like we ain't touching it All prostitutes do I mean real ones Like some of them out there doing Something strange for some change But with your pimp you don't What, use of condoms? No But then that same pimp is also Sleeping with his other hoes too And that's why I used to make sure On my wife laws And that's what you call them Wife and Laws Wife and Laws go to the clinic But it ain't like the pimp You know, my pimp ain't just running up in the bitch Soon as he get her You know what I'm saying? Like a bitch got to give a pimp some money first Before they get to go inside of them Right And a lot of guys they break those rules Like they see the bitch and she's so pretty And fine and thick and the first thing they want to do Is have sex with them And then guess what? She gone like Susie Wong She didn't ran off, she didn't got what she wanted She did test it She didn't seen it, she didn't got it What am I staying here for? Have you ever seen where Like I'm going to give Kenny Redd an example But it may not ever happen to you But all the hoes he had And say he was sleeping with all of them Do they ever get jealous of each other? They probably do but they better keep it to Theyself and Kenny Redd also Because he didn't play that jealousy stuff And me, I'm a different type of woman They were green Like you know what I was exposed to this So you know I knew how this goes Like I just see my brothers With their women And how they got along And they better not ask no questions Or anything like that So my mentality Was always You know with this ism So I think different than other people Let me ask you this When you guys It's a structure You hear the term bottom bitch You hear the term first, second string Third string Like explain that to the listeners Like cause I'm green Just give us a spiel on Kinda how they go Okay a bottom bitch is A bitch that's been there the longest That's been there That is you know it's like The top of the Cream of the crop And she's been there The longest she's been through everything Then it's like first string, second string Third string Third strings is kinda like Fly by nights They're just there and here and gone You know what I'm saying First strings is the ones that's gonna be there Through thick and thin That's been there like how was McKinney Or like my wife laws have been there for four and five years Them are first strings You know what I'm saying And then the second strings That want to elevate To become first strings You know what I'm saying It's just different levels You know what I'm saying It's just if you wanna level up bitch And you know what I'm saying To be a starter You know what I'm saying Get your money up You know what I'm saying And get your level up What's the most money you've ever made Wow Ten thousand man And I gotta ask you this man There's something that There's a big umbrella when it comes down To pimping and holding the best thing going When you think about Las Vegas Is that the best place to get money You can get money at the grocery store In the frozen food section You know what I mean You can get money wherever it is I'm a professional I know how to look at a man And can tell he big chicken Or he big police You know what I'm saying Or he big pimping You know what I'm saying You can get money wherever you go If you a raw bitch like me You know what I'm saying I can get the carpet I can get the concrete I can get money in a board room But just like I hear some pimps say You don't strive to pimp forever So with a hold I'm sure you don't try to Be a hold forever I don't give a fuck I'm never fucking for free So I'm not gonna wait till I get this old And be like I'm gonna decide to fuck for free No, I'm not holding forever But I'm gonna be a hold I'm gonna keep them hold ways Drop your books, lose your lessons And I'm not dropping my books I'm not never having sex for free Even if I get married By me, I'm turning my back on them And you understand If your husband don't do right You ain't give him no punani, nani, nani And you deserve it Not like you're being a spoiled brat Or whatever, I earned this I worked for this But when you're with a pimp Are you allowed to have a boyfriend? Hell to the motherfucking aw To the no, no, no I don't know because I'm like Oh my god, this is so funny No, you are devoted To that man To that man Right, and any bitches out here With these boyfriends and Them are imposters, boyfriend pimps And whole bitch Like I heard that expression Oh this is my whole bitch, where is the whole bitch Well she my girlfriend, but she my whole too I mean is she your whole Or is she not? Cause there's nothing wrong with being a whole Like I said, holes They clean, they smell good They're loyal, you know what I'm saying And hole is short for hooker People use the word so loosely A hole is not a bad word Slut, that's a bad word You do a slut You doing this shit for free, you know what I'm saying You're a throat baby A hole is a Classy word to me I think it's the top of the food line Cause when I was hearing When I was listening This is America to me Holes is the shit Cause when I was hearing about pimps And how some pimps If you are top, I'm gonna say top notch pimps You're supposed to be Almost like Setting a 401k up For your hoe You putting money to the side to make sure that when she done So to say Not every bitch, you gotta treat bitches accordingly Okay, that would be your bottom one then Your bottom bitch that's been down with you When you put something aside that when she Retired Even if it's one that's been there after your bottom bitch Like the bitches that are down It's just not about a bottom bitch It's about the bitches that are down for you That you've seen have been down with you When things were tough She stayed down When things was up, she stayed down This bitch deserves something I'm gonna make sure this bitch got something She had made me, you know, looked out for me I didn't bought my mom my house You know, Rome was talking about Like a bitch been down with me And Rollo, that's why I just love Rollo the Pimp You know what I'm saying, because he keeps it so real Shout out to Rollo the Pimp Man Let me tell you something Now he is the type that was gonna make sure His female got everything You know what I'm saying, because a bitch is a reflection of her man How you gonna just get everything From this woman and not do anything for her And how a bitch gonna stay around And let somebody do her like that Because I'm not staying around for that That's real I'm not staying around for that We in this together, it's us You know what I'm saying, we are a family Even if I got other wife laws That bitch called me and put a blanket on her That bitch wanna eat, she gonna feed that bitch Because guess why Because she with my man And we're paying the same man And so she's very important I gotta ask you this And you don't have to give me too much detail on it But I know losing Kenny Redd Was a devastating loss Like just give me some understanding Of how big of a loss it was And how much it changed your life Kenny will always be an essential part of my life I haven't been with him for like 25 years But we always was friends, you know So Who I really feel bad for Is the female who just was with him And made a meal for him You know I really feel bad for her I have a lot of empathy and sympathy for her And it's so unfair You know Because everybody see me and think Oh, Kenny Redd, Kenny Redd You know, I feel real bad that Kenny Redd died We got a lot of things we were trying to do We were trying to do a movie A lot of things and I feel So awful That He was just Took away from us like that You know What was one of the last things that he said to you? Well, we did our last Interview together With Soft White Underbelly And then I did no jumper with the Sharp Tank And he was so proud of that interview You know what I'm saying So that was the last time I communicated with Kenny And With the Sharp Tank No jumper The coolest podcast in the world Shout out to Sharp They've actually been breaking up There's some stuff going on I'm so proud of Sharp I've been seeing him just Evolve But he put the interview out August 11th and Kenny died September 6th And I was just so happy That he got a chance to see that interview And to get my poem That I wrote him I wrote a poem called Kenny Red I wrote him a poem And he loved it, he laughed Because that's one thing Kenny really loved about me Because I had an opinion And I kept him laughing And I was funny and Eprivescent all the time And he said it I'm one of his favorite hoes And I'm very privileged to even That paid his pimping You know what I mean? You guys might not understand that as being squares But it was a privilege To pay Kenny Red's pimping one time To all the 16s And the 304s out there Y'all feel me though So when you think about Kenny Red What do you think that he would Want for you like right now? He would want for me To be walking in a fashion week He would want me to be acting He would want me to be on big platforms Like this one Doing my thing, you know the marathon still continues He would want me To be a consultant director For the movie So we can get him right Like if you ain't playing Kenny Red right Or playing me right Then wait, I need to be there Say it like this Or this is how you say it But yeah The movie, me and Kenny's movie To come out is going to be better Than Ike and Tina Turner's Most definitely So you think it's going to be better It's going to be way better than Ike and Tina Turner That's big man Who would play Kenny Red If you had somebody to play Kenny Red Who you think could play him? Mike Epps Mike Epps Just like Kenny Wow I want to play me Stunner Girl Because she was like real hypey When I was younger And I was on that concrete I was getting money I was beating bitches ass Don't get it twisted Don't let this cute face fool you Stunner Girl remind me so much of me When I was younger When I was in my 20s And then when I got in my 30s And got refined And now that I'm older Tina Lawson If I can get them three To play a movie with You could go all the way to the top So you already been thinking about this I've been manifesting a young Martina Could be Stunner Girl When Martina left Kenny And became a Madame That could be Sweetie And then Martina now Tina Lawson That would be a challenge For Tina Lawson You know she got her husband active To play An ex prostitute Tina If you watching Tina Lawson Everybody always say I look like you girl So I think that You should make your debut Being Hustleman Martina So You said about a Madame a while ago And one thing I've always Wanted For ladies who are host for a long time Why not turn around And be a pimp after that Because we don't have a dick See this is what everybody needs to know A woman Cannot I repeat Cannot be a pimp Now girls are players too And you may can be a mac Master in the art of communication But you cannot I repeat You cannot be a pimp No woman Can ever be a pimp I don't care if she a stud I don't care what you are You cannot be a pimp If you don't have a penis Okay you could be a madam But you cannot be a pimp There's no ladies pimps That's a myth Stop saying it When you see these movies And you see the ladies portraying Different things as if they got girls under them They are madams That's what they are they are madams They are straight up madams That's what a woman is A woman pimp A woman who procures dates A procure If you look it up if you google it A procure is one who Gets clients For the ladies For the females Actually born females who are Whether doing surgeries or We want to be addressed as a man I don't care if you got a fake dingaling I don't care what you got If you wasn't born a man You cannot be a pimp That is That's against the rules That's a cardinal sin And other than having a penis What is it that A pimp does That a madam does not do Well I know me When I was a madam I would get 60% and give 40 Because when you take somebody's money You're taking their responsibilities You're taking all their bills You're taking everything their person I've been looking If I turn you on to a date for a thousand dollars Give me my 600 Take your four and get out my door So you're not paying their bills You're not doing that That's just too much Pimping is hard People think that Being a pimp is easy They have to deal with all these different Females personalities Some females be crazy as hell And being a madam is hard also I don't want to deal with Your problems So just give me my service fee And I'll highlight you When you come back to work tomorrow And I'll send you on five more calls So who's meaner A madam or a pimp It depends on who the person is You may find a pimp that's not mean You may find a madam That's mean as hell And just be talking shit to their girls I'm not sending none of my girls Know where I'm not going I'm not money hungry like that I'm not sending you to somewhere I'm not sending you to your dad Because some madams are greedy They'll send a girl somewhere Just to get that service fee Man, all money ain't good money I'm not sending nobody Nowhere where I wouldn't go Because I watched a movie once Where They tried to send this girl To a trick This trick was well known Amongst all the prostitutes That he'd be doing some crazy stuff Doing some crazy stuff to these hoes And she was crying She didn't want to go but he was forcing her to go The pimp Because she gonna get raped, abused I mean all sorts of stuff That's some sick shit That's on TV So it does not happen in reality That don't happen hell no No matter how much money Before I pick the one I want I'm snooty my duty I don't take any trick No matter how much money Well it depends on how much money You're gonna get in that bathtub And soak Now you got my time Time is money, money is time So you give me a certain amount of money Are you getting in this boiling hot water And I'm boiling you like some eggs But I'mma date you You don't understand if you got that Don't break me far so late team Don't If you're a trick though I've heard crazy stories And I've seen different things Where I talk to people that say Well you know girls tell me He'll tell me to go in there And tell them to go clean it off And we just rob them It'd be different cases where they don't always do the job See I ain't never been involved In no low life stuff like that Robbing clients and tricks But you heard of it though Yeah it goes around all the time But I'm not gonna be looking over my shoulder I'm gonna come back and get you I had I never was a thief and stuff But I started stealing when I got with Kenny Red Because he had thieves and stuff So I was like I'm about to learn how to steal too So I can go home and save my coochie for him You know what I mean So I had Stole like $800 From this trick And he's seen that I stole it And he did a bad kick and kicked me in my mouth Wow Right here That's that scar I jumped in the cab, went two blocks up Got it sold up At the hospital St. Francis Hospital in San Francisco And guess what Went back on the track to get a pimp money And the father called Kenny and said Oh my mouth got busted I want to come home But if I would have called my first Folks he would have been like Come home baby Kenny Red didn't play like that Bitch go get my money And you like that better It was just what it was I loved Kenny So whatever he said It was just right there And that's the culture Like if you really really down with your pimp When you out there And you do exactly What he tells you because you know You got your better interest at heart I ain't never been left in jail But like little Gag at Google shit like that Like Kenny would have been like Girl if you don't get their lips Sold up and go get my money And that's what I did I went and got my lips stitched up And went back out to the track What did Kenny say when he seen you I told him when he seen me Like this motherfucker kicked me in my lip He was like oh It wasn't nothing I mean not like oh but damn At least you ain't got it you know But it wasn't like oh baby Oh god you're going to stay at home For a whole week until it heals up No no he going to give me some Niasporn and some god damn peroxide And be like bitch go get a pimp And that's what it is But it's because when you deal With that lifestyle It comes with it It comes with it but you also Used to live in a certain Lifestyle when you're doing it So that lifestyle Has to be afforded So you can't afford to say oh you live Done this now you got to do it You got to go get some money I know I got bills You got days off? Well sometimes I remember one time I went four years without a day off But not like straight working four years But like if the track was hot Then you bitch You know can go in the house you know what I'm saying But it wasn't like a planned But four years straight Yeah well you know my mom's birthday She heard something like that but On holidays you know I didn't get on the whole show on Christmas shit I ain't got Christmas money from tricks All kind of stuff but What's the most money you made in a month A lot of money but Back in the 80s these girls now These days they can't even go on a 30 day run Like they can't go Straight 30 days without you know Just stacking their money It's just not the same But if you love Kenny Red so much Why did you leave him? Why did I leave him cause I got tired of getting pimped on In cold chili blood Like I said sometimes You stop eating steak Because it's not healthy for you You start eating chicken or eating fish That don't mean you hate the steak So I just I just got tired of getting pimped on So you went to another pimp No I went to the nation of Islam I was looking for God So you went to the nation You were going to like Juma service I was going to MGT classes I was going to meetings Why the nation and not just Christianity or any other one Cause I'm a queen and I just want to know who I was You don't even see To me Christianity equals slavery To me You know what I'm saying Explain that Because that's how they They kept slaves in check You know I get it I'm not going to go there with you You start talking about politics In religion It's a touchy subject Because at the end of the day It's the way you talk If you talk a certain way And like you like to be led I see what you're saying You like to be led by what you believe in And if you believe in it There should be a structure around it A culture of people that's going to lead you in the right direction And so you're saying That it's being taught And the way you understand it Causes you to be in slavery That's what you're saying You took the words right out my mouth Are you still a Muslim right now? No I don't claim no nothing I'm just a child of the king You know what I'm saying I'm a spiritual child of God I don't want to be in no category You know what I mean I've done it I've been to the synagogue I've been to the mosque Personally myself And that's all that counts And that's really what counts It's between you and God And I think a lot of times people can't live with that They're so quick to say this Or say that because They're trying to figure out a way to cover up their insecurity And their belief So for you to believe a certain way Doesn't make me feel no less Of a person than what I believe in when you're mature But most people are immature So they can't figure out How to deal with you Because of how you feel about God Because they don't trust what they feel and believe Well they need to read Joshua chapter 2 They need to read Joshua chapter 2 And read about Rahab Because I'm the modern Dave Rahab I like that I like that a lot So Going back to just being on the track And being Not just the track Because I haven't been to the track to the concrete To the concrete And when you say track you mean a train track For real I'm green So when people say in track I'm like okay you talking about a train track Choo choo You don't know That's the way the whole show Where the girls are Where I took you down there and showed you I didn't show you we was on Harry Hans It's on the street Same thing I love you so much You don't know nothing It's open It's East 14 You know Every city got it Different tracks in different cities Because we keep saying track She's saying choo choo I love you I'm thinking it was a train track Little red train that could She's trying My red baby trying I'm thinking What I was trying to figure out was When you looking at that And you see the track And you see all the different levels And you catch When you got a renegade Somebody who basically Just basically running around Doing whatever With no guidance Explain that to me A renegade A renegade is a bitch that don't Got no pen People talk down on renegades But I'm not going to sit here And talk down on no renegade Because she had to become a renegade Because she had a sour apple She got a hold To a bad PI Or an imposter And I feel like All renegades was gung-ho Like was down like I'm ready for this I'm going to be down for my man And they did something terrible to him You know fuck they money off Or was fucking other bitches Or just doing something out of pocket Going by the rules And that's what made them a renegade They didn't just wake up and say I'm going to be a renegade today No, they had some bad pimping Somebody pimping was stinking And that's what made her a renegade So I'm not going to sit here And talk about no renegade bitches Like oh I don't fuck with renegade Hades and shit like that She was a hoe at first And she got miss pimped on And became a renegade Do some renegades come back into the game Some of them do, some of them can Come back and they Go to rehabilitation They got a whole rehabilitation also You know what I'm saying? Yeah What is that? You done been so out of pocket And just doing such Just doing just everything Just doing everything until they Meet the right folks That get them back on the right Track, like not on the track But on the right Level on the right Rhythm, you know what I'm saying? The right guidance, you know what I mean? When y'all talking about track And then you talking about concrete So let me ask you what is the concrete? Concrete is the track, the blade The same thing And the carpet is like the casinos And going on S4 calls To fancy houses And mansions So you do level up from just the track Everybody can level up You're tired of being on the street Waiting for somebody to call you Meet me here, go here and you're not really out there anymore Is that how it goes? That's carpet When you're online You got dates calling you Booking with you, you know what I mean? Priceline.com You're booked up, you're booked and busy You know what I didn't realize Like when we be in Vegas Certain girls decided those slot machines And the casino knows these people They know what they're doing And a lot of times they run them out They do the 86 them out of their own That's right, I've seen this I've been 86 We be laughing Because a lot of times we be walking around Like if we do walk the strip We be walking and we're like okay that's a hoe Right, you guys be people watching People watching we know That's all You can tell She's slut You can tell she out for the weekend It's all different types People fly in to Vegas When conventions are going on They fly in just for that It's the hoeing jumping off in Vegas Big hoeing That's what I'm saying, that's what I was telling you That's the Mecca, right? I wouldn't say that It's the Mecca but So where is the Mecca then? The Mecca I haven't found that yet What's the biggest place? They said it's Dubai but I ain't going to Dubai I'm about to be a quarter party Cause I'm about to get shit and pissed on Cause that's what they doing in Dubai They shitting and pissing on these bitches Wow And they giving them $40,000 Yeah they got money out there though They giving them $40,000 man They do that for $40,000 How much money would it take for somebody? The shit and piss on me? I'll kill them I'm not doing that That's not even prostitution no more That's selling your son That ain't even no good clean Holy hoeing I got an answer You don't understand a holy ho So in today's society Cause you've been doing this a long time You did this before social media Yeah I had a pager Before cell phone But with social media when social media came in place How does social media work With her hoeing game? I wouldn't know because that ain't my lane You don't say I don't do only fans And all that I didn't even have GPS I used to have to write it down on a napkin Turn right there at the big red barn Get off on this exit And then if you go right here you're going to see a green tree Turn here And you have to make it to that trick's house Cause if not I'll have a dry run So I know how to follow instructions Real good these girls wouldn't know What to do without their GPS I had a pager And I had to stop at this telephone booth Like superwoman Have you ever had the like Once you were done with a trick Had to call another trick to pick you up Because that other trick didn't have No way to get you back to the track But you know I got a pimp to pick me up Pick me up so you can rob me After I didn't date the last trick Are you robbing? I don't know what I'm calling trick's house That's what I'm calling pimp's house So he'll do it, he'll pick it up He's gonna pick me up, he's gotta probably A flunky or somebody that's gonna An assistant pimp, you know what I'm saying That's gonna, you know Pick me up if he can't You know what I'm saying, somebody's gonna reach out Okay So Okay, you've heard a lot of lines from From You've heard a lot of lines from a lot of green What is the most Ridiculous line you've ever heard A green ever say A green, what you mean? Like me, like what you call a green A line? Like somebody say, oh I thought a question Or a statement about hoes Uh What's the most ridiculous Are the ridiculous Do we drink cum Girl, hell no Ain't nobody no throw babies around here And that's the most common question That a square acts Because they been used to going without Rubbers and stuff I didn't have females coming around me And they be like, I don't like the way the rubber tastes I be like, but you like the way that Seamen tastes I be like, let me give you some gang baby Use these Trojans Don't ever use a lifestyle Because it's going to pop And you're going to be living a lifestyle You're going to be living a lifestyle with AIDS, disease And stuff that you ain't going to Never get rid of People be worried about a baby Bitch ain't you worried about getting AIDS Going without rubbers and stuff That's like, that is just bad That's like, that's down low Don't go Without no rubber That's just like, that's just I don't care if it's Dr. Frankenstein Don't go without a rubber Do not ever go without a rubber So let me ask you this What's the name of you guys' show again Before we get off of here? Me and Pimp and Ken You and Pimp and Ken, my man Pimp and Ken Pimp and Ken, man A view from the game We're going across country We come into a city near you Wow, and how can people Get a hold of you and follow your page For the movement? Well, you can catch me on all Social media platforms And my name is Hussama Martina On all of them And my email Is the same at gmail.com If you ever wanted to book me For any Anything, you know? If you want me to come see your grandpa And break on him Call me I gotta ask you this one thing Didn't I see you on TMZ? What were you doing on there? I was on there giving it up for E40 one time Letting Harvey And Charles know That E40 is the best Rapper in the whole world To mate You know what I'm saying? His catalog is longer Than the Golden Gate Bridge You know what I mean? And if you don't know about the click When he first started You know what I'm saying? You're not a real Follower, you know? His song Mr. Flamboyant Be legit, D-Shot You know what I'm saying? Shigatee Straight up out of Vallejo Yeah, E40 That's my man Earl Stevens The Goon with the Spoon Me and Mr. Maker Gonna come up there. We gotta come to your side of town So we can get down, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you gotta go see Mr. Fabby Davis You can not come to Oakland Without going to Dope Era You got to go Man, thank you so much for coming on the show Man, we love you, Martina I love you guys, man Like I said, dope interviewer Appreciate the love, man For coming on Boss Talk 101 I hope you're enjoying Dallas while you're here Man, and I hope you'll come back Knowing Pimmy Ken and the movement You're gonna end up back in Dallas This is one of his main places where he bein' for show Yeah, so I love it Man, it's real Down south I love it, I love the grammar I love the way you guys speak The dialects When you come to California, you're gonna hear our lingo And it's just gonna be a future shock Man, hold up, man Say, man, hey It's been another great segment Of Boss Talk 101