 Next question is from Kev Petrician. What's your guys thoughts and understanding of supplementing with DHEA for hormone balance and or improved testosterone levels as we age past 30? This was a really popular supplement in the early 2000s. Yeah, late 90s even. I remember when DHEA became legal, it was... DHEA, methoxybolic, and I remember those were plant flavones or isoflavones, but you had DHEA, androstenedione, androstenediol, and these were... These are legit hormones that are in the body that became available over the counter. Now you can't get androstenedione or androstenediol anymore, but you can still get DHEA. And I remember as a kid thinking, oh god, this is legal steroids. You can't wait to take this, right? And so you take it and then you get nothing. And here's why you get nothing. DHEA is a few steps away from testosterone, and it can get converted to estrogen, estradiol just as well. And your body has these wonderful safeguards where if you're producing too much testosterone, it'll convert more to... For example, let's say you just go straight testosterone. You're like, forget DHEA, I'm going testosterone, and you inject a bunch of testosterone. Your body can take that extra testosterone, convert it to estrogen, and then you develop these estrogenic side effects. This is why guys will develop, you know, breast tissue when they're taking too much testosterone. Unless they're taking something that blocks that conversion. So DHEA is way up there in the chain of hormones when you finally get to maybe the favorable one. And so that's why there's a problem of trying to raise your testosterone by taking DHEA. Oftentimes, you see an equal or more of a raise in estrogen or estradiol in men. And in women, you don't see the same thing. You don't see this, you know, what you're necessarily looking for. Now, there definitely are cases where people are low in DHEA. This can typically happen in people who are older. If you read the studies on the benefits of DHEA, it tends to be in adults that are over 45, over 50, who also have low DHEA levels. So is this very similar to like somebody who's wanting to take a tongue cat alley or horny goat weed or... Ashwagandha is more of an adaptogen, right? But the other two, if only really works if you have low testosterone levels, and then it's really only going to help you get closer to baseline. Well, it's different because those are herbs and they work through different mechanisms to make things happen. DHEA is a hormone. You are taking a hormone when you take... Just like melatonin. Melatonin is a hormone too, right? These are hormones that you're taking. And there's a lot of ways your body can use this hormone. Now, if you're low in DHEA, if you go to a functional medicine practitioner and they say, oh, your DHEA should be here and it's really low, supplementing with it might help, might actually produce some health benefits. And you see this in older individuals. In younger people, if I take a 20-something-year-old or 30-year-old who's otherwise healthy and I say, hey, we're going to raise your testosterone, we're going to improve your performance by giving you DHEA. But their DHEA levels are fine. You're not going to see... That's my point. That's why I'm asking how I was comparing tongue cat alley and... Horny goat weed. And horny goat weed is if you already have good testosterone levels and you take those, you're going to feel nothing from it. But if you have low testosterone levels, you take those things. Sometimes that can help those people. Yes. Now, let's say you have low testosterone levels and you're like, I want to raise my testosterone with DHEA. Not necessarily going to raise your testosterone. You have to DHEA is fine. Yeah. I mean, it could raise your... I mean, there's a lot of reasons why your testosterone could be low. You could have a high... Stress. Yeah. You could have low free testosterone, right? You could have high converting to estrogen, right? So, DHEA is because it's like... I don't know if I could call it a parent hormone, but it's so far up the ladder that your body... There's so many things your body can do with it that it's not like you're... You can't be like, I'm going to take this, and this is what I want my body to do with the DHEA. It doesn't necessarily work that way. So, it's not... And by the way, Andrastenedione, okay, which now you can't buy. This was the one Mark McGuire got, right? Everybody made the big deal about him, which he wasn't taking. He wasn't taking that. He was taking... Yeah. It was just a cream. Yeah. Andrastenedione is one step away from testosterone. That was the selling point, right? Take this. Your body only has to convert it one time, and it becomes testosterone. That even fell short because your body also did a bunch of stuff with it and took it and converted it. And you'd see guys, testosterone go up, but so were their estrogen as a result. And it wasn't that much. It wasn't enough to make a difference. So, DHEA does... The studies do show that there are some health applications, but it's pretty much narrowed down to people who have DHEA deficiencies, who also tend to be older. And that's where you see some of the benefit. Otherwise, it's not really going to help you out.