 I know Jake wanted to ask you a little bit about the change up. Yeah, it's, it's, it's on my tongue here. And I just, well, well, because there, I know your, your fastball ticked up, I think in college at some point. So I'm wondering that moment's got to be like when a young point guard has that six inch growth spurt and now they're like, Hey, I'm a small four now. I can ball was it the fastball developed and then the change up became that much better? Or when was there ever a moment when it's like, Oh, this is it. Like this is nasty. Yeah. So I mean, I always kind of threw hard, but like for where I was, I mean, upstate New York, throwing like 8890 was like a, like that's pretty hard because I mean, there's not too many kids up here to throw that hard. At the time, I mean, nowadays, you know, there's kids out there throwing 95 all over the place. But at the time me throwing like 88, it's just like eye opening. And then next thing you know, I go to school down south and I pop out 95s and people are just like, I open and like, wait, wait, what just happened? But to be honest, I've always thrown a change up ever since literally like I didn't even throw a breaking ball. I didn't throw a breaking ball probably till I must have been like 10th grade. I want to say I started throwing like curveball, but one of those kids that listened to the coaches, my dad, not my coach. Yeah, my dad, of course. He always tried to, he always wanted me to throw change up instead of a curveball, but I always developed a change up basically throughout the year. So what I started out with was always a circle change up. And it's very hard to control, but when I went, when I throw it, it's really good. But when I went to college, I was mainly fastball curveball. So I developed like a knuckle curveball. It was actually pretty good. My freshman year, but then my second year just completely disappeared on me. All I had was a fastball didn't really throw change. I had to just throw fastball change ups. And I mean, back in the day when you're playing college and they're using those crazy bats where the balls are just flying off about 700 feet. You're just like, well, this stuff ain't working. It's something that breaks. College is all about the breaking ball. That's definitely one thing. But I mean, I just slowly kept throwing my change up more and more as it went on. But when I first got drafted by the Yankees, they already knew it was good. So they, what happened was in the first couple of years in the minor leagues, they didn't want me to throw it that much just because they wanted me to develop a slider and really just continue throwing that. So they would try to limit us from throwing like our best off speed a lot just so we would get used to throwing our set, our other secondary pitch. That's brutal as a competitor. That sounds like, come on, but I mean, I get, I get what they're trying to do. So like if I, we would throw two, three innings and really try to develop our pitches, but at the time, I just never really got a feel for a breaking ball after my first year of college. It just disappeared. No idea where I went and more or less in 2011, I actually, so I went from throwing a circle change up to basically like a two steam change up. And in 2011, when I was in Charleston, my, I was just throwing like a side before the game one day and the pitching coach, Carlos Sanchez comes up and he goes, he's like, how do you hold that? Cause it was good. It fades a lot. It was slow, but I showed him and he's, he's like, why do you hold it like that? When you, how do you hold your fastball? I was like, four steam. He's like, why don't you just, you know, hold it like a four steam change up. I was like, uh, all right. Next thing you know, I started getting more bottom out of it. So I was like, wow, all right. It looks like we're throwing this. He's like, yeah. And, uh, so basically from there in 11, it just took off and I just started throwing that instead. And I mean, I didn't really use it a whole lot until I want to say 2015. When I couldn't throw a fastball for a strike. So I needed to throw something for a strike. You know, that was a change up at the time. Yeah. And then it looks like I'm looking at the baseball Sabant last year was the first year you threw your change up more than your fastball. Was that just happenstance by, I mean, facing a lot of lefties and the way that you were used out of the pen, or was that a cognitive decision by you guys like, Hey, let's, let's switch this up. Yeah. It was, uh, it was more of a kind of like analytic thing. I mean, if they really want, they would want me to throw my change up every pitch, but you can't do that. But I mean, I get where they were going with it. It was working. So I mean, just to keep them, keep that kind of ratio was pretty good, but that's why I was kind of still weary of it. Cause I was, it's basically a 50-50 chance, I guess, that the hitters guessing if it's going to be a fastball or change up, but that's why I really was like trying to develop a slider again. Cause in started throwing one towards the end, right? Yeah. In 17, I had a pretty good one and then it just kind of disappeared on me in 18 and 19. And then I guess it kind of came back last year. Not really, but I'm still working on it now. I mean, I'm trying to throw like a true knuckle curve and a slider now. I think Otto said like you, you texted him was like, I got a knuckle curve now, right? Yeah. So I've been really working on it big time because that's what Chad came into the spring throw. And I was like, this thing's gross. The first day I threw it to me, I was like, whoa, hey, what are we doing here? He's like, yeah, I just threw it all off season. Like I just started from like short distance and then worked my way back and then I'm telling that thing's pretty lights out. So I was like, now that we got this second, like kind of off season, I just, I said, screw it. I'm going all in. I got on it again because that's what I threw in college was the knuckle curveball. It was pretty good. I used to throw it like anywhere from 78 to 80. Pretty good spin. So I definitely want to try to get it back. I mean, I need something that just isn't as fast. I guess I just need something slower. Yeah. Really to like get the speed difference away from the hitter. That's that's basically what I'm looking for. But the ad kind of a sharp breaking ball and a tighter sliders. I mean, that would that would be great for me. How quick when you snap one of those changeups off or release one of those changeups, do you know, like, that's perfect? Because sometimes, like watching, you can tell before I think there was some at bat against, like, it was a white socks hitter. You just threw three in a row. Just three changeups right down the middle in a row. And it was like, that guy's not going to hit that at all. Like, do you have that confidence in the changeup when you're feeling like at your best, you just like, well, here you go. I will say there are, I would say not always do I have like a confidence when it leaves my hand. I mean, obviously, as I throw the pitch, I do. But there are times where I let one like great, great as I'm releasing and I know it's a good one. But I would say for the most part, I would I wouldn't say I definitely think it's going to be a good, like the ones down the middle, I get pretty worried about. Not a lot. I think it's just that they're guessing and they just guess completely wrong. It's got so much different. Yeah, it's a big difference with the move. And it does a lot of people have said, like, they can't see it out of my hand. So that's cool. They're just guessing fastball at that point. And it's they're just way too ahead of it.