 James P. Madonna and the record doctor William J. Eisenman. Okay, we are here. You are there. And you are there. It's the intelligence program. You are there. Yeah, that's way before my time. Welcome. Of course you know because you saw the intro to the show, progressive discussions. Look they do. I'm James P. Madonna and I'll make a life 21. And my co-host is sitting right here in the background, even though people have been bitching. Why doesn't he face the camera? Well, it's none of your damn business. You hear what he has to say, don't you? That's all you need to know. No, they don't. That's the problem. They don't, they nitpick. They nitpick and about things that are not important and they don't focus on the message. The message which happens to be what comes out of the man's mouth. Anyway, the Reverend Dr. William J. Eisenman, founder and managing editor of News Letter Sensored in 1977, how are you feeling this week, sir? Cold and I have my scarf on. I notice. Wrapped around my neck, not hanging like yours. We, well, this is for- Making a fashion statement. I'm making a cold statement. This is for decorative purposes. I have my regular scarf in my winter coat. Being that this looks so much like a Scottish tartan, you know, and it's- I ain't me letting. It's my most colorful scarf. I decided to reserve it for the show. Scarfs have a very classy appearance to them, you know. Shows dignity in class, like a walking stick. It's my Blackthorn Shalely. I call it the conservative cracker. Not a cracker as in a Southern plantation owner. I'll say this, son, I'll say this. But, you know, cracker as in cracking conservatives on the old noggin, you know. But anyway, welcome to progressive discussions. Yeah, Reverend Dr. William J. Eisenman, it has happened to be single digits today, the coldest day of the week, and below with the windshield factor, which happens to be very high windshield today, below zero, but the wind is strong and tallying. It's so strong that when I went to the local ATM machine, the people were not using the outdoor ATM. There was a long line inside. Well, what do you expect? And it looked like motor vehicles. It looked like the DMV, you know. But, man, I got my antioxidant-rich hot tea, and it couldn't come at a better time. Yeah, I finished mine already. Now, everything we discuss politically on his show is part of our series, Capitalism in a Conkshell. And there's the conk and soaking that conk energy. I want to start off by saying, you know, this generation, I guess you will call them the millennials. Millennials, yes. The millennials. They are, I mean, there are good things about high technology, but there's some negative aspects. I've been seeing young people cross busy streets, walking oblivious to their environment around them, walking with their face, literally, in their smartphone, checking out whatever they're checking out or texting. They just cross the street and that's it. And their faces, they're hypnotized by their smartphones. Nobody talks to anybody anymore. If you're in a waiting room of a doctor, if you're anywhere, nobody chats. Everybody is hypnotized by their smartphones, texting away. I personally, I'm old school. I refuse to text. I want, you want to communicate with me, you call me. You know, if you want to email me, that's different. But I got big fingers and, you know, it's not easy for me to text. And I refuse to. But this is this society now, you know, it's become a very impersonal, anti-social type of society and that's unfortunate, you know. So, hey, I heard China is working on a teleportation device. I wonder where they got that technology from. Yeah, like on Star Trek. I wouldn't trust my molecules flying around the world by a Chinese machine. Neither would Dr. McCoy. I don't think- He didn't like his molecules thrown around, you know, in the, Could you imagine, you know, with the quality control they have in China, could you imagine your molecules getting a little jumbled up and your head is where your ass should be? Hey, then you'll be a Republican. Liberty bells, Liberty bells. Let me break them in. Now, that wasn't planned. We don't script anything. All right. I want to say a quick hello and a combination of happy birthday and happy Valentine's Day. To my dear friend in Osaka, Japan, Mio, greetings, Mio. And I want to say hi to my good friend, Pete Clausen, of Bugs in Cyberspace, which you can check him out online. And to all of my Facebook group administrators, all of you, collectively. Now, the debate. The most recent in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, democratic debate between the Gorgon witch, Hillary Clinton, the person, the puppet of the top 1%, the oligarchs puppet, female puppet, the, well, some call her a moderate Democrat, but no. She's a hypocritical progressive puppet, misusing the word progressive. She's not a progressive. She's a corporatist. And so is Billery, her husband, who lashed out against Bernie Sanders. Now, my problem is Bernie Sanders is still treating Hillary like, you know, too gentle. He's being a perfect gentleman. He's trying his best to combat her recent attacks, but she's hitting below the belt, very hard. And she is, seems like Hillary's breaking away from Sanders' a plan to keep it an issue-oriented debate. She's starting to hit him below the belt. And after Bernie Sanders said, Madam Secretary, that was a low blow. That was it. He didn't really retaliate against Hillary's unfair attacks and lying. And either, either, look, if Bernie doesn't bring out the big guns next time, he doesn't stand a chance. He doesn't have to. She's destroying her own campaign with those low blow. See, that's the ultra liberal attitude. No, it's a personality of passivity, being passive, not going on the attack, not taking action. You know what I mean? If you don't have to, why would you? You guys, even Bernie too, you guys are so worried about offending someone, getting people to like you and accept you, that you won't go on the attack. You just won't do it, you people. Why would you? Let's take a- Because she's doing it. So what? Let's look at this from a military point of view. Why, as a general, would you go with your men and attack somebody who's destroying himself? Well, Why would you do that? It sure fools me, because all the progressive publications online are making statements like, do you think Hillary stands a chance of making a comeback against Bernie Sanders' surge? It's almost like the pro-Hillary. What do you think that is? Is that Hillary favorable? No. That's against Hillary. And big media's on Hillary's side? You know? Well, Mary, why did you expect anything else? She's a corporate. But how is Bernie going to compensate for all this advantage that Hillary has on her side? There you go. You have to compensate by exposing Hillary Clinton, exposing her dirt. She's exposing herself. Yeah, but people- How do you think the DNC- But how do you get- They're just going to do these dirty tricks and everything to help her out. Why do you think they need to do that? Because Bernie's doing a damn good job and she's doing a damn good job of destroying her thing. But the American people today are imbeciles. You have to tell them outright how crooked this woman is. They've been doing that. And the thousands or millions of people who are rallying around Sanders are just saying that. And every time Hillary makes a statement, she has a huge, vast mob of high-pitched screamers cheering her. I did not hear- But that's fake. In the last debate, I did not hear a deafening, equal loud cheer for Bernie Sanders in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I didn't hear it. I did. Now it was low on a decibel. Hillary had all those feminists screaming at the top of the world. Feminists. Yes, feminists are not interested in policies. They're interested in getting a woman in the White House. And so is you. And I have a feeling so is the DNC with that Deborah Wasserman shits that her, I call her the crony queen of Hillary Clinton, the personal attack dog. Well, she is the one who will be leading the dirty tricks against Bernie. Because I saw the article and it said the DNC has declared war on Bernie Sanders' revolution. And I had a picture of this- Because. This kosher feminist douchebag, Deborah Wasserman shits- Because they are all corporates. They all take the money from Wall Street and et cetera. And Bernie has them on the hot plate. It is- That's what their problem is. Well, Bernie's right about, he has a feeling that the kitchen sink is gonna be thrown at him. That's correct. That's gonna be thrown at him soon. Because Hillary has started it and now Wasserman is on the attack, will be on the attack. Now the problem is that Bernie is a fairly clean dude in terms of scandals and Steve the cat stay away from the cameraman. That's it. Now anyway, with that twitching tail. I thought we were over this. This fucking cat, man, should be picked up by a fucking Chinese takeout. Stop sabotaging the show. It's our mascot. It's a black and white Sylvester looking cat who just has to be the center. See, this is the thing that pisses me off about cats. You don't have to really, you don't have to walk them or anything. But they got to be the center of attention. You know what I mean? Not all of them, I got one that's sleeping right now. Not bothering anyone. So the drama queen happens to be a male, Steve. Anyway, just don't pay attention to it. Well, you did just. Because you're looking at him like, oh, what's the matter, what's the matter, Steve? The camera sees me. Look at him? No, you follow the camera. You guys call these goddamn cats. Like the children, American. What if the cat has to go out and piss? What do you mean calmly? Well, then I'll open the door. Well, he was there already. No. But I guess he didn't have to go to have badly. I don't know. Got damn pain in the ass fucking cat. He ain't there now. Oh, yes he is. Oh, he is. You're a cocksucker. You're a male, so I can call you that. You cocksucker. What a cocksucker. Anyway, here we have, while I'm standing, our evangelical serpent, as in taking up serpents, the right wing serpent is hanging over all glory, Merca, Merca. Getting back to Deborah Wasserman Schitz, the queen of Hillary Cronies, and probably the queen of the feminist movement that just wants to make history. She's the head of the DNC. She looks like it. She looks lesbian to me. Well, is that a bad thing? When all you care about is putting a woman in a White House and nothing else, yes. That's feminist. That's not lesbian. That's feminist, feminist. Feminist. And then you get Madeleine Albright telling women, particularly also feminists, feminists and regular homemakers or whoever they happen to be, that if you vote for Bernie Sanders, you're going into the fires of hell. No, she said there is a special place in hell for women who don't stick with them. That was her quote. Yeah. Right. Well, what I said is synonymous. No, it ain't. Yes it is. They're going to hell. That would put men in hell too. No, what did I say before I said that? I says women, feminists and homemakers and the like, women that vote for Bernie Sanders and don't vote for Hillary are going to go to hell. It's synonymous with what her quote is. All right, but there's two problems with that for people who are intelligent and know things. This guy's got to be right and he's got to be the top of the mountain. First of all. My partner here. Madeleine Albright. There is no such thing in the Bible as the traditional concept of hell. Wrong on that. Well, now you're getting, you're reading. Madeleine Albright. Now you're reading into it literally, literally. That's correct. But. The woman is making literal statements. Listen. And Madeleine Albright, back in the 90s, a Secretary of State under Bill Clinton, when the United States had sanctions against Saddam Hussein, 400,000 Iraqi kids died. Yes. And they asked her about that. And they said, do you think that's right? And he said, yes. So she had no, That's Madeleine Albright. She had no compassion and empathy for her. So why would anybody believe or take any attention to anything Madeleine Albright said? Well, Hillary sure had a big smile on her face. Well, that's them. Standing next to Madeleine Albright. But I'm talking about somebody who knows something. It's the same thing with Henry Kissinger. Henry Kissinger is a war monger and a war criminal. And he's in league with the Rothschilds. Who cares about the Rothschilds? They're worth $500 trillion. Nobody's worth $500 trillion. You don't believe it. You don't. Ain't that much money in the world? Well, I know you're not a conspiracy theorist. Why for sure? I am. So all I gotta say is. Prove all things. No religion has been proven. So politics and religion should never be mixed. But they are. But then. So how do you fight them? But it's religion is based on faith, which is hope. Exactly. How is that evidence? It is the front man of the Republican Party. To run a country based on that. So how do you fight that? Revolution, civil war. See? We did that once already. It did once. No, because the Dixie Crats became today's Republicans. Whatever. And there are people who are still fighting the civil war down south. And it didn't change their minds. People with half a brain not tied behind their back understand that violence gets you nowhere. The people in Kentucky who, okay, they don't have a pot to piss in basically. They vote for people that are only for the rich. And they reelected Mitch McConnell. They voted him in the first time they reelected him. And then you have people in New Jersey who complained up and down about Chris Christie. They elected him and they reelected him. Which makes New Jersey people from my state assholes. Because why would you complain about somebody and reelect? Reelected? Okay. Wisconsin, this traditional blue state, they elected and reelected Scott Walker. You know what I mean? It's like the Twilight Zone episode. It's like, what the fuck? It doesn't make sense. Why would a woman? Let's say she is a publicly active, proactive feminist. Why would a woman, aside from the fact that Hillary's a woman, why would she vote for a corporatist if corporatists don't really care about the poor? Women's rights, minorities, civil rights. They don't care about the little guy at all. But they're not looking at what Hillary really is. They're looking at the fact that she is a female by birth and they just want the first woman in the White House. The White House. Period. Thank you. And that's it. It's a very selfish agenda. They're not looking at the good of the country. Bernie's gotta stop bringing out the big guns. They're not looking at the good of the person either. Right, exactly. She's not a good person. Well, I posted that whole article on the anonymous group page. I think it would be beautiful. It would be great if the anonymous guys dug up all the dirt with their hacking talents, dug up all the dirt on Hillary to help Bernie out. I think that would be peachy keen. However, seven bells for the anonymous group. However. And a salute. However. Would it change the minds of the supporters? Well, looking at the Trump supporters. Right. We're talking about Hillary. No, she still gets the loud cheers at the debate. Thank you. But exposure on a deeper level, you see Bernie saying to, look, I like Bernie for now. He's saying the same thing over and over and over and over. Because it ain't changing. She's hitting them in the balls. Hillary's starting to hit them below the bell. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And getting nasty, getting unfair. All right, now he's not retaliating. He's being passive on Hillary's attacks, unfair attacks. Now he can do one or two things. He could hope that the American people will see through all of Hillary's bullshit and bills and let Hillary sink herself. Or Bernie could do both, could let Hillary sink herself and expose Hillary and embarrass her in front of the nation. I'd say do both. I said before that Hillary is doing a good job. I'll start doing it herself. What? I have a question. But when you're going to do the president's job, you are going there to do policies that people want you to do, that the country needs. And it's not a job of trying to insult the person who's running against you. If it's proven true, it's not an insult. Was it a low blow against Sanders and insult? Or was it true? Well, if it was true, Hillary has- You just made a statement, now prove the statement. Hillary has the right to say it. If Sanders did something that- No, no, no, I just said it was wrong that she said. It's not wrong to expose somebody that did wrong. But he didn't do it wrong. It was a lie then. So it was an insult. Well, lying is not a fair open exchange debate. She did. Lying is- Now you want Sanders to do it. If it's true, I don't want him to lie. When he attacks Hillary. If he's just insulting her or just that and the other thing. Say what I mean. It's a lie. Oh, you insult somebody. You're going to offend them. That's not politically correct. Here we go again. I know where this is going. It's not on policy. It doesn't help breaking up the banks of the Wall Street. So he's got to be impotent and not ever attack Hillary in the debate. He has to be impotent and not go there. Listen. He's running for president. If it was some other person there besides Hillary, it's the same policies that he wants to institute. It's the same revolution that he wants to get going. He wants to get all those people out there to vote. So there will be no obstruction from Republicans or Democratic- Well, hopefully they'll put in enough Democratic seats. You never know. That's what it's all about. And then there won't be too much- It's not about insulting Hillary. But she's, I can't see letting her get away with lying about Bernie and hitting them below the belt with no retaliation. I just can't see it. Because that's the way you look at- Because I got fucking testosterone on my gonads. That's why- You look at things with a violent attitude. No, it's not violence. It's your- It is. You are, if somebody's giving you lies and hitting you hard, you hit them back. See what I said? What do you think they teach you in martial arts? They teach you to take the energy of the other guy and use it against them. You know what? That's what you're saying- You get to. What you're saying, thank you, Steve. You just wrecked it. You just wrecked my- Oh, now you wrecked it more. No, it was sticking out because I had to let that cocksucker it back in. You fucked me up over here, brother. You fucked up my background. What we have to get- Ultra liberalism, passive, Pollyanna, like Gary, no. Don't offend anybody. You gotta walk on eggshells. Walk out. Don't call Oprah Winfrey a corporate whore. We have to get away from the ideas. He says you gotta raise the barge. That a presidential campaign is a war. It is not a war. Well, there ends up being that. But war causes destruction, collateral damage. It is not constructive. Well, then England would still- Bernie is trying to construct a new system. Ultra liberalism will lose against the corporate oligarch. That's my prediction. Well, that's nothing new. If the DNC- That's nothing new? If the DNC- Oh, we're already planning that. If the DNC just hands over the nomination to Hillary and Bernie doesn't run as an independent, I'm gonna vote for Jesse Ventura. Progressive Libertarian. That's what I'm gonna do. Jesse is not on the ballot. Jesse's talking about- You can write a minute if you want to. Jesse's thinking about running. I know that, but he ain't gonna do it. You don't think he's gonna do it? It's too late. No, it's not. Bloomberg, who else? Jesse, Jesse, the Libertarian following. The Libertarian following is quite large. And it will- The Libertarians have never won anything. And besides, the Coke- Hey, buddy boy. Hey, the one Coke brother. You can care less about the Democratic Party. I'm gonna vote for Hillary and that's it. Who cares? You vote for Hillary then. Who cares who you vote for? You vote for the political correctness of putting a woman in a White House. You do what you want. Do what you want. I'm voting for Bernie. Why would you bring up I'm voting for Hillary? What is wrong with you? If Hillary wins the nomination, if Hillary, if Hillary's scamming works. I will write me in. Like I do every fucking year. I'm not saying that Bernie, if Bernie's not on the ballot, if Bernie is on the ballot, hook up by crook, I will vote for Bernie Sanders. If Bernie Sanders is screwed over. Then write him in. If he decides, you know, to support the Democratic Party, then he's a corporatist too. You can write him in. That's enough. I will not support in any way, shape, or form that witch. Well, fine. That corporate witch. I will not. Fine, then don't do it. But why the hell are you saying that other people are gonna do it? Who have no way? I ain't claim to do it. Because I've been. And libertarians are just a stone's throw away from Republicans. Well, Jesse said he's a liberal libertarian. What the hell is that mean? I don't know. Yeah, exactly. I've been looking at the other web pages. The other web pages that are pro-liberal, pro-democrat, whatever you want to call them. And they seem to be back in Hillary because they want to make history with this first woman in the White House. Keeps that. Now let me ask you a question. Keeps that. Let's take New Hampshire, for example. Bernie Sanders was obviously very successful in New Hampshire. Okay. When Bernie Sanders won the caucus primary in New Hampshire, there are no caucuses in New Hampshire. It's a primary. Primary. Caucus and a primary are two different things. What is caucus then? Caucus is a bunch of people coming together, debating amongst each other and then deciding on who to vote. Okay. When Bernie... Primary is an election. Bernie won the New Hampshire primary. Yes. He received a certain number of delegates when he won. What is the difference between superdelegates that are just being handed to Hillary Clinton and a regular run-of-the-mill delegate? Superdelegates are Bill Clinton. They are the big queens of the party. So top 1% of the party. That's correct. So they are the very... They will override the little boy and girl. So what you're talking about is pretty much two-party system cheating. Underhandedness. I said dirty tricks. Well... Democratic party is ending up being the flip side, the opposite side of the same coin. So these groups out there that are so pro... They say I'm true blue Democrat. You know, I'm so sick of these people bragging that they're true blue.