 Hello everybody welcome back to esoteric Atlanta. I'm super super super excited and actually right when I hit record I was like I probably probably should sage this area because of the topic that we're going to be talking about today So after I finished doing introductions if you say I see me scrounging around for my lighter That's why I'm in a sage because we know we know we're in a very Interesting time of our spiritual development on this timeline right now and so first of all I've got my co-host today Stephanie from spiritual Perspectives of our great awakening and of course the star of the hour of this show is my friend Cindy from a sacred Garden yoga and before I even ask you ladies how you're doing it I just want to go ahead and remind our viewers if you please go ahead and hit the subscribe button for both Cindy at sacred Garden yoga She's got so many interesting conversations a lot Of course with Stephanie and me that she also offers some yoga practices and that kind of stuff for those of you Who are interested in starting a practice? I'm just going to go ahead and Michael Can you come in and just watch the zoom because I'm hearing the zoom? Echo a little bit and then of course Stephanie at spiritual perspectives of our great awakening who just sits hit 6000 subscribers today awesome job She's been doing her elemental readings For air fire and water signs. She's also been doing a lot of collective readings guys So so please go ahead and make sure you're subscribed. She's seriously one of my best Like my favorite readers on YouTube. I watch a ton of readers on YouTube so to Stephanie We're constantly sending each other readings back and forth What am I favorite and I don't think it's I don't think it's me being biased because she's my friend She's really really good at what she does and I just want to remind you guys because this has been a conversation coming up recently Really great book on the chakra system You know this book right? Hello, that's someone that we used to use in yoga teacher training. I love that one Eastern body Western mind. I know I sent it to Stephanie and I've I've taught I y'all hearing that crackling sound not today Satan not today Satan Michael Magdalene can you guys come in and watch this zoom and make sure that no crying eyes is in my microphone, Bryce It might be You're trying to pull it away from the speaker a little bit and see if it changes Anyway guys, but I will put this in a link to this in the description box below if anybody's interested in the great thing about this book I've been telling Stephanie is that you don't it's not a book you have to read on one sitting because she She separates it into all of the yeah, we lost we lost your face in She divides each chapter is a different chakra There you have so you don't have to really you can read the first Ladara chapter and read it let it let it settle in for a couple of weeks and then go pick up the second one Oh, we lost you against Cindy. They don't want us talking about this might happen This often happens actually when we start talking about things that we're going to talk about it happened again Yeah, because I don't think the powers that be want us the nefarious powers that be what is revealing these secrets About what deep and I'm actually gonna see where is my okay? So now I can ask you ladies. How are y'all doing today? Go here crackling. Well, if I can get my camera to work, I'll be great We're all just combobulated today Talking about it. Sure. I would like some sage to myself. So I'm gonna light my sage right now. I Always like to light a candle first because sage is a bitch to light Not only that but it's sometimes smells like funk What's that what's that funny mean like when I sage my set my house and realize I am the demon yes, oh My god, I saw this meme that it was like some sort of big explosion and it said Something like that's not enough sage for the whole world or something like that like you need it You need this amount of sage to sage up the whole world You'd have to see it. I mean, it's messy. It's like a huge sage stick If we were only that easy if we're only that easy I'm actually gonna put some dragons blood up as well just for protection And we're gonna ask I'm gonna ask right now if you're if you're watching right now And you would like some protection as well. You can just say that you consent to the screen I'm gonna ask Michael Our buddy Michael come in and watch this zoom and monitor the zoom as well as Gabriel Come in and monitor the zoom and just keep all Entities that are not here for our highest good out of this zoom all entities and guides that are here for our highest good including Magdalen Including I says half Thor and Yashua be invited in to help us get this message across because as Cindy has I'm gonna just use this as my little marker now I just keep thinking Bippity Boppity boo Boppity boo Oh my good entities in the room now. Oh, it kind of looks like a bit of a Which I'm not opposed to it all guys Madison baby plant Madison It up it and I bring up ice is in half or because something you taught me Cindy a while ago So we're gonna be talking about demons and the priestess of Isis. They were like demon slayers weren't they? fought They were demon busters demon slayers Who are you gonna? I think you know in in our The conversations that we've been having at least in the yoga studio. I think it sounds like you've been having them with your channel, too It's also understanding the That idea of the demon and thinking that they're just all Dark Yeah, baby, they watch they don't watch you. Yeah So I think like the demon slayers. It's like Buffy the vampire slayer before Buffy even existed She wasn't the og Isis Hathor worthy of these and then came along Magdalene, but um, yes So this is something that I've spoken about with JC K Stephanie and I have spoken about and I've shared the story I think on another channel before but I'm gonna just briefly share a story that happened to me when I was in Like my mid to late 20s. I think I was talking to you about this at the yoga studio this week the past weekend Cindy So there's I'm not gonna get into specifics as to where this building is located, but you know, there's a lot of old buildings and One of my friends from high school or a husband took over this restaurant this Italian restaurant here in Georgia and This restaurant there rumors around this restaurant. This was like probably 15 14 15 years ago So I didn't know I always kind of heard things and saw things I was always kind of that weird spiritual kid, but I obviously this is long before the Great Awakening But when they took over this restaurant whenever the employees would go to the attic Weird things would happen. They would get scratched pushed Two of the employees who were very young got cancer like all this stuff was going on and there were all these rumors that a particular group of people Whose first name starts with an F and the second one ends in Mason We're using the attic Sorry guys who'd be careful with censorship. You guys know who we're talking about but they were using the attic for their rituals will say and so my the wife of the guy who took over the Restaurant another friend of mine the three of us decided we were gonna go and like be buffy the vampire slayer and see Was gone in this attic and so we went up into the attic and it was one of the darkest places I it was like beyond dark like, you know, there's dark and there's dark dark and we were standing up there And we've been I in the South everything's haunted. So like that's nothing new And but I'm standing up there and I was probably 25 26 years old and all of a sudden Michael says to me in my ear Tell them they can go back into the light Tell them they can go back into the light. I will help them and so I said You guys can go back into the light if you want to and all of a sudden the purple light of Michael started moving around the room And my other friends saw and we were all like, oh shit. Oh shit. Oh shit. What do we do? Like bippity-boppity-boo, what do we just do? Um, and then after that the purple light went around the room it did get a lot lighter up in that attic now I haven't been back to that building since so I don't know what went on and happened But what what I feel like was I was getting a message that now has become really really clear If we're if we're talking about the Christian faith, which a lot of us that's what we grew up with I know the three of us. That's what we grew up with We were taught that when Lucifer fell fell a third of heaven went with him What they neglect to tell us is that they didn't go a lot of them and oh some of them might have But a lot of them didn't go willingly Some of them were taken and this makes more sense the grimoires we've been studying the grand grimoire The lesser keys of Solomon the keys of Solomon and Moses is grimoire So they speak about having to almost had their demons to them Like holding through the seal of Solomon like that. They don't just come willingly. So this makes sense. So I'm gonna let Cindy take over from here because she is she is literally Buffy the vampire slayer when it comes to this stuff So I'm gonna let you start off Cindy with your background and what you know about this Situation we have with demons Well, I've shared with you before Bryce that I received a training on how to do spirit release work it was one of the first trainings that I learned how to do back in my 20s and My teacher His name was dr. Charles skill is he's passed away now But when I received my training with him it was it was at first through hip to the therapy Hypnotherapy was my first form of training and you know And then so I received like the regular hip hip the therapy training like how to stop smoking and you know weight loss and all these things But what his specialty was through hip the therapy was spirit release work And he was very passionate about it. It's like actually what he did more than anything else and So then after I finished my regular hip the therapy training I went through the spirit release training with him as well and he taught it through Hypnotherapy and if anyone knows about hip in the therapy to like a lot of hypnot therapists They have Scripts that they follow like their scripts for stop smoking and scripts for you know and everything else Well, he shared with us and now I'm not sure because this was so long ago And he's passed away and I wish that he was still alive so that I could answer So he could you know answer some of these questions for me now Now I haven't talked to him in probably over 20 years So we haven't like talked to them in a long time before he passed But you know, I just find that it's fascinating that this is coming up right now then when you were telling me Bryce about some of the conversations that you were having before in the channel that they were using a very similar method and It like it touched me because I I mean I knew that there were other people that had gone through the training with him But I I'm not in communication with him I didn't like I didn't know who was out there that followed the same particular script or the same particular way of Helping the the the entities or the demons or the extraterrestrials Whatever you want to call them to help them to guide them back into the light Because most of the way that you see it, you know, it looks like very Exorcism and and like the demon is like this terrible terrible thing and when the truth is if you read it through the way that You were tired or I was taught to do it is You you speak to well like once you pull the entity out or once you pull the the demon out You actually have a good through Okay, so let me go back a little bit through the hypnotherapy The person that who's doing the release they're they're a channel Like they're the channel or they're the voice for whatever entity is going to come through and then as the the Practitioner we're the one asking the questions and in guiding the session along all right, so Anyways, when we summon and pull up whatever entity is attached you know one of the first questions that you ask is like why are you here and if and if they've been on this planet before like if they've been in human form on this planet before it's like an earth-bound entity and That they're usually easier, but if they've never been in the human form before then Very often it's like a like an end like a more of a demonic type entity or like an extra terrestrial Which they often end up being demonic like So anyways, and once you determine that the the process of getting them to release and to let go is To help them realize that they have a spark of light within them Which is what I think is so completely brilliant about This method in this bike this lineage of learning how to do this and when you're having the Conversations with these entities or these demons they will often tell you that They don't want to do it anymore like and if they if they leave that person or if they leave that body that You know good chances are that they're going to be punished You know, they're they're tired of doing the work not not not all of them. You'll you'll get entities of all sorts of Backgrounds I guess you can say but some of them have also they've been lied to They the the the demon itself has been deceived and lied to They have been told like you you know, you ask them Okay, what have you been told about the light and they'll often say oh well that we're told to avoid the light The light is harmful. The light is going to hurt us, you know that that's like well one of the first deceptions that they're told and Then the another big deception is that they don't have any light inside of them And so then if they go to the light they're afraid of it because they think it's going to hurt it It's it's it's going to burn them But when you're going through the release process one of the things that you do is Like you do you know you call upon the mighty rescue spirits of light Archangel Michael and all this and you Enmeshed them in lights like anything that's there and then we you know we as we're talking to the entity we say okay Well, you had you're enmeshed in light right now. Is it hurting you? Is it harming you and they and they're like oh well, no It isn't I was like well, how does it feel? It's like oh, you know, it actually kind of feels good So then they begin to realize more more of the the truth and Then you know sometimes that they get kind of upset because they were deceived at this whole entire time Okay, and so yes, and then the second deception as I said that is that they're told that they don't have any light inside of them Where everything at least it's my belief like everything is of God or that higher intelligence that greater intelligence Whatever the universe, whatever you want to call it everything comes from a spark Including these these entities, but they have just been so Taught that they are from like the pits of hell and they're only you know there to do dark things But again that's a that's a deception and the way that you get them to start to go back into the light is First you have them find them. You have them find a spark of light that's within them And then they'll see you like this little spark within them and they're like I Didn't know I had that you know, they're like oh wow and then you you get that entity to Transform into the light and then when they transform into the light Then that they can see you know, oh my gosh I've been doing this harm and they usually go back and apologize to the person that they've been attacking or attach themselves to Yeah, and And then and then they are also much more willing to repair any damage that they've done to that person like once They actually recognize and realize that they've been lied to And they're in the light. They're like, oh, you know, yeah, I'm sorry I've done all this damage and then they'll go back in and you know, they'll they'll do reparations of the damage And then you you send them, you know, then eventually they go very willingly So part of the the release process is getting them to realize that they've been lied to This whole entire time which to me, I don't know as I said It's just the it's a beautiful thing because what we all need is more it more light and to try to admonish the heaviness the darkness and when I Don't know. It's just the I guess it's the realization when you know, you're exposed to this kind of work Like how many layers of deception go on and like these are like, you know Beings that they too have been deceived, you know, I mean, I mean, yes, they are deceiving you But it's because they've been deceived themselves, you know, and when giving when given a choice They'll go back once they realize that they're not going to be punished Like if they go into the light now, not all of them will some of them will are just, you know They're pretty enmeshed in the dark and they would rather go back to where they came from and suffer the hell way So, I mean, they they still have a choice and they can decide where they want to go It's that stop. It's just fascinating to realize how many just Don't know review. They have our mind controlled and they were mind scrambled and they were they developed probably a sense of Stockholm syndrome and they You know, and this isn't going on For our one little human life much longer And it's it's you have empathy at that point for there because they are also you realize they're also victims, too And I know somebody said too, maybe you can elaborate on this Some of them are actually afraid of Lucifer or afraid of the human entity that called upon them like they don't want to They're scared. I know I heard someone else say that that they're afraid if they leave and go into the light that they're going to be hunted down by Lucifer by the the black witch that called them and summoned them and I watched the video where the guy had to explain through the Hypnosis know you will be protected You will be and you will be healed You will be healed by the light and you're right. I see this almost every day on my channel It's like darkness can't create anything. You know, it can only invert what the light has already created And it means when you start to understand the complexity so it's not like when people are Demon removing you're not just zipping zapping demons away like laser tag It's a complex. It's like healing a human. It's like trauma therapy that a human goes through but with a demon It's trauma therapy for a demon And it's usually the best way because once they go into the light that then they're gone if they If they don't then there's also a stronger possibility that they can come back to to that person especially if there is a wound within the person which is what you know What allowed the entity to come in in the first place? They usually come in through some kind of a trauma or wound or a vulnerability if that vulnerability isn't taken care of by that person if a demon is just kind of just Go go somewhere. I mean where they're gonna go, you know, you're just kind of shooing them away If there's a possibility that they can also come back now It is like the you know kind of part of the law that once something once And it's just that you're sovereign, right? We've talked about that before every being is sovereign and once they realize and they see what's going on Once you say okay, you don't have a right to be here anymore Then they technically they they have to go away But sometimes they are like threads or maybe some subconscious Contracts that are going on between that and the entity and that can like Bring bring it back. Yeah, you know it But when you send them into the light, I mean they Transmuted themselves. They treat. I mean they didn't just go into the light. They became the light Yeah, that's the difference they become the light once they become the light and they go back to source Then there's no desire on their part to even try to come back and cause harm or damage to anyone else much less the person that they were You know attached to before It seems like it's a parallel to kind of what goes on what's going on right right now this this divide of people and Living in the truth and people still living in the deception of the matrix and Again, like Bryce you said Stockholm syndrome. It's like yeah people don't they they kidn't it What is that live when you go back to the abuser over and over and over again, right the empathize if you start to you start to like almost Who is that newspaper heiress that is an example The newspaper paper heiress from California that was abducted and she ended up like Robbing a bank with her abductees because she developed Stockholm So you start to like become enmeshed with your capital after almost and it's a weird psychological phenomenon Nancy I Can't right now. I know people are gonna probably screaming at the computer her last name But um and I've been to her I've been to her granddad or dad's in California And I can't remember I can't remember the name anyway, it's when you basically it's a psychological disorder It happens a lot with a cults It happens a lot with of their organizations where you you get so mind-scramble and so confused by the person Who's torturing you that you actually start to side with? your chapter It's a mental disorder and it happens and it's it doesn't happen right away You know when someone first is abducted there They're obviously not taking the side of their chapter, but over time through mental Anguish and mind control and mind scrambling they start to kind of lose that I guess it all also turns into them losing their sense of sovereignty because they start to become empathetic with the person That's hurting them and it's um So it almost is like the demons in some ways will develop a part of a part of Stockholm syndrome, but I think it's almost like when you're in a bad relationship when You have this confidence and also that confidence is taken away from you Because you you've been told over and over and over again. You're ugly. You're no good No one will ever love you and so you start to tell it to yourself Yeah, it kind of sounds like that's what the demons, you know, they were held captive So let's let's say this way. I know some of the demons did leave with Lucifer at will But some of them were kind of taking captive and so over time It's kind of like when you go into those bad relationships, they were probably conditioned over time And then and then I know from reading these grimoires that if we were laughing at sound Sunday I've said this to people before spirits aren't what scare me. It's human beings that scare me It seems like the dark witches that conjure these demons to do their dirty work are way scarier than the demons themselves and I know from studying the grimoires, they have to be tethered they have to be tethered to their victim So they're stuck kind of stuck to their victim through spell casting and witchcraft and they're told to do this job and I Said again is the video I saw the demon that was speaking through the conduit was saying I'm scared of I'm scared of the person that called me if I don't do what I'm supposed to do They're gonna punish me You know, and so they're they're having to do what what they're told So it's you start to have empathy for these entities And that's and I watched that the entity release and go with Michael into the light and go go go to heal The guy kept saying just go heal now go heal now and I saw it release I saw the release on the persons when it actually released and you said something interesting to me too Cindy wants that I want to talk about as well because you've said to me that even though this is what you're trained to do You're technically not the person that releases the entity It's the person that has the entity attached to them that has to be the one to release it Oh, totally. I mean as the as the practitioner We're just simply giving them the words and giving them the encouragement and Cheerleader giving them just giving them the the general Feeling of what's going on, you know taking them into that space But what also what makes the the releasing actually work is yes They release it themselves because you know, they're the ones that are channeling the the the entity But they're also very conscious about what's going on as well So it's like they they know what's going on and and as we you know go through certain There's a certain lines of questionings that we we go through as well And when they realize how they came in the vulnerability or the trauma that let them in When they realize that then they can let it go But it's so much more powerful if they release it because it came in through their I Wouldn't say permit they they didn't give active permission, but they were just vulnerable Yeah, and that's what allowed them to come in so because of that when they say, okay This isn't you're not welcome here anymore Then that is what actually They have to go. I mean they keep they can't be they can't again That's that's just kind of the law the law of the sovereignty there If they're told that they can't be there, but if I say it if I say okay go But the person there is still Holding on or hanging on for whatever reason you know because they can get attached to yeah, then it doesn't it doesn't quite work Yeah, yeah, it's important. I want people to understand because I think that It's wonderful in this great and something and I've had many conversations about this It's wonderful that people are taking an active interest in spiritual warfare and what spirituality is But I as as you guys know have heard Cindy's been through a lot of training. There are lineages here They're my friend Tiffany speaks about how it there's also bloodline lineages that are associated with this kind of thing as well And so it's way more complicated in a lot of ways when you're working with this than what people think you can't just Shoe a demon away Because you see it on somebody without that person knowing it's not how this works at all and and It does take and that and how how beautiful is that though because if there is a wound within the person It allows it also gives not only the de it's like couples therapy like the demon gets go through their therapy and the human It's like couples there, you know And and that's and that's a beautiful thing and that healing can happen because that's that's the goal It's not we're not looking to put a band-aid on the wound we're looking to actually heal it for both parties involved and And so I love that you talked about all of your training about that you've gone through with this and and how yeah It's not it's not just oh, I see a demon. So I'm gonna go away. No, it's that's not how it works It's not how it works. Well, no, I mean it's been such a process like okay So that was one of the first things that I learned how to do but then it took like more many many many more years of training to then help the person with the wound or with the trauma You know what whether it's the inner child work or the shadow You know, we've talked a lot about the shadow work and going in there and figuring out What's what's what's causing the vulnerability or the weakness and and and getting to the core of that So yeah, it's it I mean because you're messing with someone's energy. You're messing with someone's psyche Yeah, I mean, it's not something that you just necessarily want to go in there and say hey, you know and plus, you know There are certain words. Yes, that when you're working with the entity that they go to the right place Because you know, you there will also be which you have to be careful even when you're sending the entities into the light even if they're earthbound spirits that sometimes there can be a I'm a lignite Spirit that comes in wanting to take that entity back into the dark So, you know, you got to make sure that whoever's coming in to take them into the light That they are of the highest order of the light, you know what I mean? And so there's a certain protection that you have to put around yourself and I mean, I know that I have like an army of Beings just through the you know the different initiations and the process as I mean I I usually feel Pretty safe now I'm not gonna say that I can't ever be attacking or anything like that But I usually feel pretty safe because I have an army So it's just a little harder, it's a little harder to break, you know, it's a little harder to break through But that's taken lots, you know, that's taken like years to develop that Let's pause on that because that's a good point when you're putting yourself in that position as going to be the trauma therapist for a demon You are you aren't a sense possibly putting yourself in a place of vulnerability Because you're looking darkness in the eyes you have to be aware of your own Boundaries and making sure that you know the proper protection From the highest realm and highest order because again guys everything is based off of consent And so and that's another thing too I you know if someone has a demon attached them that you're seeing you can't you have to get that person's Consent to actually go through the process of working with them to release the the demon. It's all about consent And before cuz I want to talk about earthbound spirits as well But before we go to that Stephanie, do you have any more questions about demon stuff? Actually do I don't know if you know the answer to the Cindy. This is something Being Bryce's friend Eva had asked me and I honestly didn't know the answer It was just a question we were pondering upon is I wonder if any of us human beings have any sort of Soul fractal from a previous life that has embodied one of these demons. I don't know if that makes any sense at all if like it Are you talking about are you talking about you specific like humans? No, no, just people who so like for instance the the little people that are Removed underground that doesn't as as an example if Their soul was I've heard again. I don't know a lot about this particular I know you know enough about demons from like watching you and everything and listening to you and being on a shows with you and stuff but Let's say one of those little people's souls There was a fractal that was removed and taking captive by one of these black witches Would it then develop into something like that? I don't even know if that's possible. It was just something we were like It was a question that just came came up. I Don't know. I mean, I don't know if I've ever Seen anything that way. I'm not saying that it's not a Possibility, but it's nothing that I've personally have Ever encountered So I mean I guess anything's possible. Yeah, but I Haven't seen that like I haven't had any personal experience with that Well, I wonder too because I know that demons and because demons are angels There are angels and demons are the same beings. It's just they have the same abilities They they were all created created as angels just once the dark and once the light and they're not the same as humans though So I wondered that has something to do with it, too The human soul is different then they created differently and jelly maybe one of the earthbound spirits and I don't know It's it's like one of those things that just happened to come up and I just was curious I mean my other question is too like you see these like Exorcisms and I'm just bring I know already know kind of the answer this but For those who were like me who were indoctrinated in the church for instance, and you you look at these Catholic Exorcisms and stuff like that. Like is that a real thing? Like are they actually removing entities or is that just some sort of Hollywood looking thing? You know what I mean like just for for people who have been indoctrinated, you know I think that I mean it's probably you know, I get the impression that it's a real thing It's just a totally different methodology. Okay You know, I kind of like the our methodology because it's more about Trans just like transmuting the whole it's like alchemy. You know, it's like true alchemy instead of it being some kind of violent Violent yeah, like like Like violence and I had I knew someone one psychic meeting who medium who go into some of these Catholic Exorcisms and there was one case where the girl kept getting repossessed and they would come in and get super violent and One day I was having lunch with him and a friend and he was like I'm tired of this The demon's still there because she wants it there She likes me best So there's this is this is a soap opera at this point. She likes the violence likes the whole drama of it all And I'm gone. He's like yeah after by going back and forth to this week. I'm done like she she's she's still possessed because she Wants to be possessed And I think that's that's that's part and I agree and I do think you know when you're Violently trying to remove an entity if the human that the it is a little as hosting the entity doesn't want it gone Right no and then a lot of people too They won't let it go because they feel like they need to be punished I mean they really feel on a deep level. They were they did something terribly wrong or and Then they just feel like they need to be punished. Yeah, and that would that will also keep attracting Because that's that's actually a big yummy thing for a demon. It's like ooh They want to be punished or they feel like they need to be fun. I mean that is That is a way in Yeah Well, it's okay. Let's talk about earth balance spirits because that's an even I feel like an even bigger spectrum of Entity attachments and I want to be clear because we've talked about this Just because something's going wrong in your life does not mean you have an earth balance You're attached to you or a demon attached to you most of time You're your own demon most of the time it's your shit and your show alone. So so I just want to make that I mean there they're kind of common, but they're not like that common Yeah, where if you if you're blaming everything on your life on a demon or an entity without taking responsibility For the choices that you're making like that's not cool. No, that's and you know It's kind of a waste of time for the for the for the demon therapist You know like like my friend who was meeting was like I'm done this girl wants to be possessed This is a waste of my time and my energy. She keeps getting possessed because she wants it Like if you're not willing to do the work, then it's what's the point? What's the point? So and it's interesting because I was watching something last night about how there are some earth-bound spirits who do something called jumping But what they do is they try to jump the person They try to keep trying to jump them because they think they can eventually kind of take over and live and be alive again Have you ever heard of that Cindy jumping? I've heard of that again I've never really seen that I've never had a personal experience with them, but I've heard of I've heard of that Basically, but and yeah, you know some earth-bound spirits are actually they're not too But some of them are quite grumpy and some of them can do just as much damage as a demon Um But some of them most of them are a lot of times they're relatives Where the person who who has the attachment? Maybe they were they were very very deep grieving And they didn't want to let the person go and so then that the you know The one who died to them the entity then becomes almost like tethered to they don't want to go because they want to be there to help to You know to protect the person or be there for that person to give some solace in the midst of their grief That happens pretty frequently. So Frequently it is someone that they know other times they come in the same way as like a demonic wood where It was a child a lot of times it's children And they are going through something and they feel very alone and so then that attracts an entity and Usually the the earthbound entity if they haven't gone into the light there they're very aware of their of the way that they died and everything but Usually there's like a lack of peace and their their death or lack of peace in their life they you know a lot of times they died and a lot of pain and When and then that pain like if that if that entity wasn't a lot of pain Let's say they had like really bad back pain or something like that and the the person is attached to they'll experience that too Like that back pain I was gonna ask what I know that there's a difference There's probably difference between like communicating with the other side of the veil like being able to talk to People who come versus having an attachment. So what are some side effects if someone has like You know, they're great uncle or something attack are just a passing spirit that was like Friend and clog on clog on to them. What are some symptoms or signs that maybe they're they've got an attachment of an earthbound spirit Well, there will always be a sense of that and attachment is never good like ever Yeah, and like your spirit guides your angels They will never Attach themselves to you, right? I mean, they will be there helping you all this but they will never actually attach themselves to you and an earthbound entity will actually attach it and they will feed off of your energy and So, you know, there's often like just like tiredness fatigue and their auric field if you can send it will It will probably be very diminished the very in in instead of out Because but but I mean an entity will pull it in a whole lot So, you know, so it's more the basic ones are just like maybe a lack of energy or you're you know, you're you're tired And then yes, you'll start to carry on some of the symptoms if you know, suddenly you have a back You know, you've gone to the doctor a thousand times and they can't figure out what's wrong with your back pain I mean not to say that it's an entity. It could be something that's subconsciously going on with you as well You know talking about the energy For Alison, what was the time? It could totally be yours. Yeah, it could totally be yours But uh, it could you know, there is a chance that it could Belong to to someone else too um In children, especially their personalities will start to change because children they're just so, you know, they're so there's so much more innocent And if a child gets one their their personality will actually change if they're a normally Calm sweet children and then suddenly they're angry and They're they're hard to manage um, or they're you know, there's just a Big shift in their personality Then in the children you can see that more more so But in the adults is you'll also take on some of the moods You know, if the um, if they were just tired or moody or sad or depressed You'll take on all that stuff as well Um, so yeah, I would say just probably first and foremost is just the tiredness Um a lack of energy and then just weird symptoms that no one Can seem to figure out Like where it's coming from So I but one of the things you do ask though, um, usually when I'll go in and see um Because if someone You know, usually someone will come to see me for something They don't always come and say hey, I think I have an entity They say man, I just feel really tired. I feel sick. I feel this I feel that And then you know, we'll usually go into where they're feeling it like okay Well, so where are you feeling? Where are you feeling the tightness or where are you feeling the pain? And then we'll go into you know, go into that pain And then we'll the first thing we'll we'll try to think the first question is does this belong to you? And if it belongs to you then it belongs to you that means that that's yours, right? That's that's like your stuff like but if it doesn't belong to you, you know You'll usually get a note doesn't belong and then you pull up the um The entity from there Now I know that you know, there's many ways to get entity attachments like you could like you said It could be a family member that passes away and you're grieving and you kind of unintentionally call it in Or I know we've talked about especially I guess with children, especially if there's and there's entities always everywhere roaming around the earth like Human based and not we're not talking about demons at this point Um, so I know that sometimes if there's a wound in you especially children one passing by could kind of Blatch on to the energy as well and all of a sudden you've got something stuck to you That you're that you're not totally aware of and your conscious mind But are other ways to pick up entities and something's been asking me so like a Ouija board or like a pendulum board If you're not careful, could you unintentionally? Attach you have an entity I tell I was like I was like unless you know what you're doing, I don't even play with Ouija board. Don't don't even try to Don't summon things Because one you don't know what you're gonna be summoning. I was like no Ouija boards Don't summon stuff unless like you're like skilled at summoning. I don't summon things Well, and that's what I mean. I mean I summon like the light, but I don't go around just like summoning But we'll be like, what's the point? You know what I mean? You're just putting yourself in I mean some people will do it out of curiosity and that's the worst reason to do anything is because Just because you're curious well, even like pendulum boards like Like stuffy and I both use pendulum boards a lot and I think we do it very safely We don't use it that much actually as an orb goes by me I think we do it very safely because we always kind of open it and close it We make sure that it's we only try to go through source and It tells you kind of you kind of feel when something else is but I've seen a few people now get really out of hand with this It's getting a little bit crazy. And so could could something like this accidentally summon in a spirit A trickster little spirit that becomes attached to you Sure. I mean it totally can any any anything where you're Connecting to the other side of the veil I mean the pendulum is supposed to be your energy. It's supposed to be reading you right and I The way it makes the most sense to me in the way Um, I would use it. It's it's it's actually more like muscle, you know, like someone who does kinesiology and muscle testing Yep, like you store it. It's like a pendulum is an extension of that It's an extension of you. It's an extension of your energy is an extension of your like muscle testing That's the way I use it. I just like just let it be an extension of of like me Yes More so than I'm going to bring in this this this to come through the pendulum. You know what I mean? Yeah, that's how That's the way I use it tomorrow kind of speaks about this way. I was telling someone this like here's mine again So like I'll show me yes, please Yes, please show me no, please So it's reading my energy pendulum. Do I need more vitamin c? Yeah, I do need do any more calcium Do I need more red? Does that a no no, what did you say I need more ready one's red? Do I need more surprise? Might be swinging like whoo like about bread and potatoes and all the comfort foods Do I need more water? Yeah Yeah, feel it coming back around Yeah, so I think of it more like that like the like a muscle because you can be like your own muscle testing too Yeah, you know, there's certain things that you can do come practice do that a lot too You know, they do the kinesiology, but that's what I think of the pendulum. I use it more along the lines of that than trying to Summoning something. Yeah It's it's and you always have to take divination with a grain of salt anyway because your ego is always going to be a little bit involved Even much as you try to like push that ego way, it's always going to kind of be there Um, I mean, that's why like if I have a question about something serious and I want to read my mind What you read my mind you were like, oh, I have a question for myself I always go to someone else about it Like I'll text Stephanie to pull on it because she's gonna have a more neutral I always ask her to pull the cards because she's gonna have a more neutral I don't prefer the pendulum. Honestly, like I used to I used when I first started using it became this like Obsession and I'm like Honestly, I learned really quickly. It's not always Accurate and I realized that yeah, your ego can really play a role in it So luckily I did learn really quickly So I'd prefer to pull the cards over the pendulum and again, it's like I've learned throughout trial and error Yeah, it's it's more like for your higher self and connecting with your higher self What do you need and and stuff like that? So that's why I divinate usually with the cards rather than the pendulum I mean once in a while, I'll pull it out but Nothing like it was like when I first started using it but again that was I was just a baby coming into this. I came right out of the church I was like fascinating. I'm like, oh This can tell me answers. So I was like asking it every single thing It was like being trapped in A home that sheltered you and I broke out of it and I went in her belt That's the kind of like that's that's kind of you kind of have to make those mistakes to kind of learn Boundaries. Well, that's why I always say I prefer the cards for questions because you can't see what you're pulling Even though it's using the energy from your hands, but I And Stephanie will text me and be like, hey, can you pull on this quickly? And it's quick because the person is taking a more neutral. I don't like to read on myself Yeah, I do not read well on myself because again that ego comes in And that's the last thing I want. I want somebody with a neutral View on it telling me the truth because I'd rather have the truth And the best way for you to find out the answers for yourself is to drop down and just go into your safe role space I mean, that's that's where that's where the answers are I mean, uh, he lives too. We're doing Course coming up on developing your intuition, but the purpose is for that, you know Is so that you can feel and tune into what the With the right direction for you because you when you're your body is the most beautifully complex and accurate I mean think of how How many electrons and everything that you got firing off in your body at all times and how connected your Body, I mean just your physical body is to source Your physical body is actually your best instrument like when you're talking about like for yourself, you know Your physical body is your best instrument for tuning into what are the right decisions for me Because if you tune in you'll feel like if you ask yourself the yes and no like the bigger ask you'll feel an expansion You'll feel a contraction If you tune into the I mean it will explain you'll feel like like the yeah Like you can breathe and you feel like an expanse or you feel contract if you go into the womb In your sacral area, especially because that is um That I just did it in my mind That's wild That's wild Cindy I just did it. I just asked I guess a no question that I know the answers to in my mind Is something true or not that I already know and I I went to feel it in my my solar He's a solar plexus area the womb area. It can be your solar plexus I felt that down in your sacral area like in your womb like here or here You know in either one of those areas those are those are the general good areas, but yes, you will feel like yeah So drop into your sacral area drop into your womb space And you know men also have like the sacral area the women are saying womb space But we all got you know, we all energetically have that like drop down there And you'll feel the expansion you'll feel the contraction But the thing is just you have to it's one of those things where we're not trained to trust that, you know We're told it's got to make rational sense Right, but where the true sense is Your body's gonna know. Yeah Your body is going to know and that's what Tamara says when people say well, how do I know the difference between my gut reaction and spear? And she says well, that's simple fear makes sense Your gut reaction doesn't always make sense But fear will make sense and so if it doesn't make sense at the time what you're feeling That's okay to still go with it because there's something your body intuitively knows that your conscious line isn't aware of yet Um, so I absolutely absolutely. I love that. I've been using what you say a lot Cindy especially when kind of referring to like magdalene's texts and stuff like in order to ascend in life You have to descend you have to descend You have to go down into yourself the human parts of yourself instead of hanging up in the I know we've been talking about this Stephanie and she talks about this in eastern western mind That people who are so focused on being up here, especially that third eye It ends up ends up becoming delusional Because they're not connecting into the root of who they are as a person grounding themselves and um, and I want to I also want to focus too city. You've said this before and Stephanie I have been talking about this You're dealing a lot with spiritual warfare and you're going into the quantum and you're doing this stuff You've said before and this is so beautiful. How important physical exercises to flesh through All of that stuff like you have to be able to get it Nothing nothing will bring you into your body down into your body faster than physical exercise In order for you to explore those sensations of being a human Well, you know, you're talking, you know, we you know, we talked a lot about Mary Magdalene and the mysteries and you know To me it always comes through as the the chalice mysteries. It's like the mysteries of the chalice and uh, Because one of the symbols of Mary Magdalene I mean she has many but one is like the chalice itself He might have already read it in the icis cut. I don't know if you've come across No, we're just She might have she might have talked about the chalice already like the body is a chalice But that's it. It's like you're you're restoring the chalice. That that's what keeps coming Those are the words that keep coming to me Over and over again about like what to share With people restore your restore the chalice And that but that's coming through from the from the feminine life from the magdalene and all that restoring the chalice because You're the child the body Is your it's your everything right now where you know in the past the body has been one of those things That's been like demonized and that's part of the tantric, you know the shakti This part of the shakti path is recognizing the body is supreme itself And an instrument um as your guidance because it's the vehicle of your soul and your soul Has to communicate with you somehow so it's going to communicate to you through all your sensations and so the art is in Learning how to learn listen to it hear it again But the physical exercise is this what keeps your chalice In shape, right? It's like it. Yeah. Yes. You have to flesh things out You have to watch what you put in it because there's a lot of things that you can eat and stuff that desensitize see a lot of us when you want to Desensitize our child's like there's you know for a lot of especially, you know light workers or star seeds the And I think we've talked about this like the body's too insane. There's too much feeling here too much feeling here So I want to desensitize. Let me drink some alcohol or let me eat like that whole big thing of donuts or cookies or Let me binge on that place because I need to numb out That those don't really get really good right now I'm a full mooner on my cycle. We're coming up to a full moon now. So I'm like I And I tell people too like I I mean, I've been in the in a mindset of overexercising to make your body appear a certain way But there's such a magic we have to start in this new timeline We have to start seeing exercise as something totally different from what we've been fed When you really get into your body, especially with practices like yoga or bark bar would be a RRE which is like an off-shoot of ballet and you're you're forced to bring your mind So deep into your body to feel the movement of the pelvis as it pulls in I mean in bar we you do a lot of those movements of pulling the pelvic and that is a lot Of a focus where you have to come down actually really down into the base of that spine to feel that pulling it There's such an information That's released when it when it starts to tone itself And it starts to sweat and that top is that heat starts to enter into that area just releases Information within your fascia within your dna. I mean the sofia coat speaks about this It's already in your dna. It just needs to be activated And so if you're using the alchemy of exercise in a healthy way As a form of your spiritual practice not just to keep yourself spiritually clean but also to help you understand yourself and it forces you In a very way to go down into your physical being versus being out there and because people can use People can do spirituality as a form of escapism Of course Well, and the that that whole thing is you learn how to trust yourself again and that's where Where I think the problem lies or the disconnect lies is it's not that we we're not receiving intuitive hits We always are but we'll either dismiss it like immediately Or we we simply we haven't been taught to trust it and to like really learn what what it feels like Yeah, and the That's what I feel is such a big part of what's coming in right now through the divine teachings of the of the feminine Is learn how to trust your Trust like restore the chalice so that you can trust and you can use good good discernment and make those decisions for yourself and You can really start to feel it in your body your body will tell you Yeah, your body is a miracle. I mean your body is like this just this miraculous thing It's the most complex. I think System even in the universe from what I understood the from what I understand I mean, there's nothing that's more Miraculous and complex and beautifully Created and architected than Life in our bodies absolutely Stephanie I know we you've got to go soon because you have another call coming in Is there one going to ask you any more questions for for sendy? Or do you want to like do a spread a card spread to see what spirit wants us to know about? This subject of demons and entity attachments up to you Um, so the cards will have to be more specific So what exactly do you want to know from the cards? You have a question that you want to ask spirit sendy about uh Demon work or or do the demon I have a question Do the demons want us? Is this is this a positive turn for humanity for us to understand That some of these demons are also victims Okay, just gonna change the way we view Just gonna change the way we view demons demons and attachments Which I feel like you sendy. I feel like if every person went about dealing with um This type of spiritual most spiritual warfare guys. I want to make this very clear Most spiritual warfare is you you work in with yourself most of the time you're the demon You're the demon. Um, you do Oh wow guys Okay, I pulled three cards. I was told three cards only So i'm getting that Um, so the 10 of cups a 10 of cups is happiness harmony family. So this is probably going to shed light in a positive way To what exactly? Cause it like everything you just talked about sendy It's you know this is going forward when we come across this information more people Especially church people. Okay, because we have a total I say we Not me anymore but Those coming out of the church have a completely different outlook on what demonic activity is they they blame everything on demons, right? so This is going to really shed light on and also the fact that they have a sparkle light in them. They're not necessarily bad They're literally trapped confused deceived Pretty much a parallel of the human race for the past how many years, right? Where we've all been deceived as well. So it's going to show that it's also going to have a lot of people probably let go of The programming they have because this is a card that says you need to let go of something So like letting go of the false information going forward that we have on demons Also, this could talk about people literally like looking into maybe how to Let go of any attachments they might have um if they have any and This is like a coming out of troubled waters card. So what I'm getting with this is I feel like more demonic entities are probably going to be sent back to the light anyways going forward I mean we're walking into 4d. So You know anything of the negative would have to shift somewhere would have to transmit somewhere, right? You would think if we go 40 positive we go 40 negative lord help us all but um But yeah, well it's it's what is this a fiacal call it. This is the golden age of miracles Yeah, so I mean this this literally these two cards could literally be the releasing of these trapped angels really Going back toward the light. I mean for the most part. I would hold all of them That they are willing That's what I got to hold as well the five card spread. I almost got emotional Because I asked if there's any demons that want our ex demons that are now in the light that want us Tell us anything and first card that came out was the five of swords. So he's super stressed out He's super upset and the seven of pentacles came out which Again, Nicole reminded me a subscriber. Thank you seven is also the planet of venus or love and see he's working on this He's nurturing this and then also the ace of pentacles like there was a freedom offered An offer was made And the higher up now and the higher up can either be Aspected positively or negatively but I get this positively because the higher fun is a spiritual leader So an offer has been made the spiritual leader to bring The demon back into the light and the last card that came out This is what made kind of gave me the goosebumps was the temperance card And if you look at the temperance card on this light seeker's deck this guy has wings behind him But look there's two almost like the two of pentacles. There's a dark and a light Almost like the darkest transmuting back into the light So through work like Cindy's work and her teacher's work in this lineage of actually not just going to war against the demons but actually a rescue mission it's a rescue mission To remind them that they are actually I mean when you hear that any time you hear that any living Entity or being has been mentally abused You can't you can't help but feel empathy And to get them back into the light. This is a trend. This is in this deck. It looks like it's looks like that That alchemy of dark to light and because that because that offer was made That offer was made They were able to come into back into the light from this Yeah So that's beautiful That Yeah, so liberation for not only humanity, but I I I believe a lot of these um either trapped spirits or trapped angels That's just a multi-dimensional liberation I mean, how many how long have they been stuck in that those chains of bondage like war See talk about it. Tell a novella That's scary So like what you know, but um, but yeah, it's that's a beautiful thing and I as I said on sunday We were talking and I was like, I fear the humans way more than I feel that fear the entities because The entities have been confused and trapped into this. It's the human that are summoning them that are the real problems. So, um You know, but if they're willing to take healing there's healing for them as well So anyway So Cindy do you have any what courses do you have coming up at sacred garden? Um, there's a developing your intuition course This is that actually the course is actually called intuition is starting in july and there will be one that's offered in the studio and One that's offered. Um, yeah, there it is intuition And it's also offered online And we'll also be working with the cosmic forces of mercury of mars and the moon as part of it because we were talking about mars but Empathic people intuitive people need to know how to set good boundaries for themselves That's part of learning, you know, like I think that's mars work And yeah, and then mercury is the uh, uh, planet of Like magic. I mean, he's all about magic and communication in the moon. Of course, we know the moon. We always associate the moon with Like the different phases of the moon and intuition and trusting and dropping into I mean if there's any Uh cosmic force that represents the child So it'd be the moon because we've talked about the moon before too how the moon is also representative of the body itself But anyways, we'll we'll be developing intuition But we'll be working through some of those cosmic understandings while we go through Things to also improve your psychic them not just your intuition, but psychic development giving practices That will help because you know, we're talking about ecstasy like the intuition in the your Psychic development doesn't just kind of I mean, it's all there. It's available to everybody, but it takes It doesn't it doesn't you just don't automatically become a highly intuitive. No Hell, you know, but without building the skill without building it Absolutely. We have some practices for that Well, I wanted to play out this guys on her website. She also has healing services So that's something else you're looking for some healing services. We have the schedule here My class on sunday is not on zoom Can't really do What I want to do May if you're ever up to it one day when you're teaching the class I'd like to record it And then we can put it on the sacred garden yoga site like you actually just going through the primary or full primary Yeah You can share it too, but you know, we could actually record the class Yeah, we can put it up and then we'll have to tell all the students coming to make sure they wear their best lulu weapons that day Don't wear your pants backwards or inside out and everything else I always laugh Stephanie until like, you know, you go to some yoga classes The girls are in there like cute little yoga clothes their hair all braided and pretty and then you go to our shangha class And it's just like a flop shot shit show of people just trying to survive Like their pants are backwards Inside out their bra doesn't match to have everybody regardless of what your hair looks like leaves in a shangha class with Albert Einstein hair You know, bless your heart if you wear makeup the mascara is going to be down your face My class so it's on a sunday morning on top of that It's uh, I one day I've I've always joked about in a mysore class especially like recording the sounds of mysore just as the grunts And all the f bombs that are dropped and all the oh shits that are dropped in all the sparks of people like learning their tiktoks and smacking the floor and falling out of inversions and um It's definitely a very different Different experience. So so yes that we can totally do that. We can absolutely totally do that. So um Yes, but if you are interested Cindy's classes are on zoom and I'll I'll put Cindy's website and All of her contact as well. Uh, Stephanie's I know Stephanie you're booked until like july though, right with your readings mid july Yeah, um, so, uh, when is this when is this video getting posted? Uh thursday morning Okay, so I'll just announce it now. I'm likely going live On saturday afternoon brice is going to moderate me So she gets to whack a troll Um, yeah, that'll be fun for you brice get your anger out. I'm just joking Um, I'm gonna do uh, live, um like one question readings for those in the chat likely Um, so I'm working on that. I've never done a live before. Um, also too. I'm going to be having a I'm gonna announce this Soon on my channel Probably at some point early next week as well. I'm gonna do uh five questions for 25 dollars Um Bang bang bang all recorded and and I send it to the email Um, so the questions and payment will have to be sent in and then I will Do a recording and send that person. Um, they're quick little reading or something like that I'm still working out the kingsaw of that. So that's something I'm going to do because I know a lot of people do want to get in Our friend ava is offering Readings and she has more availability. That's closer too. So if anybody wants I have her links been linking her Calendly link In all of my videos as well Because we we help each other out Yeah, so if you want a full so what i'm going to say now I guess if you want a full reading with stephanie It'll be it'll be into july before you can get a spot with her But she is possibly going to be doing these quick five five questions with a pre-recorded video Hopefully soon once you figure that out. Just let me know stephanie. I'll make a post in the community tab But i'll put ava's uh contact information as well down in the description box below in case there's somebody wants a Ava's an incredible reader. She's one of the best oracle readers with oracle. Yes Uh, she's incredible. She's better than me at oracle boy. Oracle is like super positive. It's like It's harder to read an oracle card than it is a tarot card. I agree Maybe I just like the telephoto of the tarot card. It's always a little bit more dramatic Maybe that's my my my my style but um, but anyway Um, and of course all of cindy's contact information with her website for twitter her instagram her youtube channel We'll all be down in the description box below guys, especially with exercise and we talk about exercise We're not saying you have to get up off your ass and go run a marathon. Don't be silly um And if you need it if you want to if you're if you're still so super curious about yoga because I just did a live about yoga Cindy does have practices on her youtube channel So you can always go and try those practices on our youtube channel And you again if you look on the class schedule for sacred garden yoga, there are some zoom options So if you don't live in georgia if you live a far away or you can come into those zoom classes Just make sure you understand that we're on eastern Time cindy in atlanta georgia. Sorry light dog thinks he's the Cindy knows robbie. She's not robbie He's the sheriff if anybody dares walk by the house without his permission lord help their soul They're gonna get a citation from him But um, thank you He's very mouthy So, um, if you want to so so eastern time so cindy and i are on the same time as new york city For those who are not in the united states, that's exact same time as new york city So you can look on your clock. That's when you know the time difference So just make sure if you are signed up for one of the zoom classes that you are taking that into account That it's that time for eastern time. So all right ladies. Well, this has been super super super fun I am going to leave the comments up on this video if we get any Nasty abusive or violent comments from the christians who like to come after us with pitchforks They will just be blocked and the person will be blocked as well But for those of you lovely souls 99 the 99.9 percent of you lovely souls who are awesome I'm going to open up these comments because if you have any questions for cindy Regarding the regarding the topic we talked about today if there's some confusion or you just want to understand more Leave them down in the comment section below and and then perhaps we can do a follow-up on your questions So, um, just let us know. All right ladies I know you got to go do some reading stephanie. So, um, i'm going to go ahead and sign off for us Thank you so much guys and cindy. I will be seeing you on sunday Yes