 Because you just you have a leader of the party instead of an emperor, you have these layers of influence and different provinces is very similar to the pattern that ancient China had for literally thousands of years. And they have a way of thinking they have a cultural way of thinking just as we in America have an automatic assumption that certain things are supposed to be a certain way. Everybody wants to have a democracy, don't they? Well, guess what? No, everybody doesn't. Everybody would like to have more say in what happens in their lives, but everybody also wants order and everyone wants things to go smoothly. And in different cultures, they have a historical background that leads them to believe that order and the welfare of society comes from different states of being. Democracy, especially American democracy, is not as democratic as people think. We otherwise, we would not have a electoral college and the majority vote, which is what everyone thinks is supposed to win, would have counted in which case we wouldn't have had Mr. Trump in the White House. And this has happened before. There aren't many really democratic countries in democracy. But China has always wanted to be a world player, but it does. It's manipulating on the low down on the underside and it uses financial influence whenever possible over military influence. But it has the military to back it up and that makes it being very smart. Also, I'm sorry to say it, but China's leaders don't just get to be leaders because their family is rich. They get to be leaders because they study their own politics and their own history. I don't think there is leadership in most major countries except the United States right now where the people who are running the country are a shockingly ignorant of actually what the process of government is in their own country. We've seen it in some other places, Iran, Iraq, sometimes Turkey, absolutely, where dictatorships rule because they don't care or because they have amassed the kind of physical power necessary to enforce what they're doing. This happens also in South America from time to time. But I've never seen it, never seen us come this close in the United States as I have with this recent election. And that's why I think the people that are protesting are very important. And the votes that are coming up in this spy election year are going to be vital because without young people who will be turning 18, I hope to Jesus that they register to vote. And I hope people who were resting at home thinking it didn't matter will get out and vote because if, I'm not saying the Democrats are terrific. Not at all. I believe the Democrats lost this election. I don't think that Trump won, but that's a different story. But if we don't get out and vote, if we don't take the Congress back at the very least, we will have no power because you cannot have the executive branch and the legislative branch and the judicial branch all in the same party line. That is against what the Constitution designed the system to do. And so we've got to take back at least our Congress, our House and Senate in the hopes of returning ourselves to balance for the next two years so we can maybe vote for someone else. And I only hope the Democrats have someone to put out there who is worthy and who will really take up the banner and will try to win back for us the many freedoms and equities that have been taken away in this administration. Aside from hope, are you worried? Are you worried like I am? I am. Well, here's the balance. I have been worried for a long time. The recent actions by young people against gun violence have inspired me. Sometimes in order to get people to wake up, things have to get very, very bad. Because if they're only a little bad, it's not bad enough to make you worry. So sometimes you look at a situation and say, well, maybe we had to get really worried. And that is something that the Trump administration has done. It's frightened a lot of people. Well, when people get frightened, they suddenly realize that they have to do something. You and I are of a generation that protested the Vietnam War, that maybe we're involved in the civil rights movement. We were quite young then maybe, but yeah. We know what it means to go out on a street and march, maybe to get gassed and put down, maybe to face the danger of police. We are of the generation that knew about the Kent State massacres and why they were called massacres. That's a courage. That's a commitment to an ideal. And you have to get really scared if you're going to get to a place where you say, my life is worthless if I do not stand up for the things I believe in. And I do not believe that the white supremacists or the right-wing extremists who are taking over the Republican Party have that kind of faith. They're greedy, they're short-sighted, they have their own view of history, and they are clinging to it passionately even though it has no logic and no substance to support it. But if that's what it takes to get people out to actually vote, statistics show that when you have a large voter turnout, the Democrats always win. That's why the Republican Party is sacrificing every ethic and every moral and every value it has to continue to maintain this presidency. And they do it for a very simple reason, and that's because they know they cannot win legitimately. That's why, also, they're not going out after the Russians. Now, Trump may have a tape on him, but the U.S. Congress doesn't. The Republicans should be all over this. My parents were blacklisted during the 50s because they were supposed to be communists, even though all they were fighting for was things like civil rights and stuff. Well, and they never wanted to take down the United States. I don't know anyone, even those who were members of the Communist Party in America, who wanted to destroy the United States. They wanted a change, they wanted to make it better. That's what working people were about. But right now, what's happening is a move, a definite move to turn America into essentially a fascist state. I do believe that. I believe they don't even know what fascism is, but that's what they're doing. And I think the Republican Party is destroying itself with its own greed and self-possession. You can't push people past a certain point. And if you want a revolution in this country, if you want all those guns really turned on you in Washington, keep going in this direction because sooner or later, even the loving liberal left-wingers are going to discover that the only way they can survive maybe is to take it over. And the Constitution says, you know, if your government does not serve you, you have a right to change it. That's in there. So if I were Republicans in the gun lobby, I would watch out because all they're looking at now is that most people who come from this place of law and order in the terms of the government are not the kind of people who pick up a gun and shoot. I mean, you had one guy, right? One guy who shot that senator or whatever. One guy. And how many extremists have been out there with their guns? Right-wing extremists, excuse me. Too many of them have been allowed into the Republican Party. Too many of them have too much power. And too many good Republicans are now looking at the situation saying, I'm quitting. I would like to see them get together and form a third party. And take down, either take back their Republican Party or turn it into yet a new party, a new party that's going to represent the values they do. I agree with them 90% of the time even so, but they have a legitimate point of view. And they have never been traitors to the United States of America. And as far as I'm concerned, I don't know why we can't sue Donald Trump and several other of his advisors for having violated their oaths of office because I know what those oaths say. And as far as I can see, they have not fulfilled them. Protect the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. It's a little hard if your domestic enemy is in the White House. There was a suit filed recently, I have to look it up more, against Trump and some of his entourage for what happened in Russia with Russia. The Democratic Party has taken Donald Trump and the entire White House basically, taking them to court. They're suing them for having committed criminal acts which directly affected the ability of the Democratic Party to function. That's interesting because it's a civil suit. So that has a different set of criteria than the kind of legal situation, but it's using similar evidence. And this reminds me of O.J. Simpson's situation where he was freed from the legal question of whether or not he killed his wife, but he was found guilty in a civil suit and what he was, you know, they find him a bunch of money. I'm not sure what the results are of a civil suit in this case, but I think they knew they had to do something. My understanding, I read about it today, was that there was a two-year statute of limitations on the Democratic Party's ability to take this to court, and so they had to act now. And they were assembling information, but a lot has been assembled already, and I think with the recent raids, that gave them the clue that we can start initiating this procedure. Well, we're on a subject. What would happen if Trump actually fired Mueller? Honestly, I don't know. I would think that enough of the even the most conservative Republicans, the most reactionary Republicans, would say you went over the line. But Trump cannot fire Mueller. I mean, they say this on TV all the time, but it doesn't matter because reporters keep saying the same words. Trump tells Rosenstein that he wants Mueller fired, then Rosenstein has to do it. So Trump, you watch for Trump to fire Rosenstein because he has to fire the gentleman from the Justice Department who is in charge of Mueller before anyone will fire Mueller.