 two more managerial openings this afternoon as the Cubs and Joe Madden decided to part ways and the Pirates are willing to say goodbye to Clint Hurdle so five managerial openings for right now Theo Epstein with the Cubs talked about the split with Madden. Both agreed that this is uh this type of change is that it's time and that this type of change is a win-win it's going to be great for Joe not a wonderful point in his life he's gonna he won't talk about this right now but I will he's going to be a bidding war for his services and there should be and he's in a great position and I saw a cooler to his next chapter in baseball and in life and it's going to be good for the Cubs too I think we're at a point where we just need a little bit of change and something new and and that's natural that's the natural way of things change if you embrace it the right way is good for all of us. A lot of folks think Madden might fill one of those under other managerial vacancies but for Bochi it's the end of the line and you played for him in San Diego. Yeah congratulations to Bruce Bochi on an amazing career and I played for him for a year and a half in San Diego and I thought the perfect mix of a player's manager and the fact that he played the game he knows what the struggle is all about when you go through it and he's able to relate but also a great feel for managing during the game bullpen management was outstanding but when I look at the the vacancies that are out there Jack I'm wondering are they going to go old school is this all going to come back around again or are we going to stick with analytical managers and younger managers. Well I think you haven't seen many GMs or presidents or team executives being relieved of their jobs but the managers are being relieved of their jobs and I think it shows you how disposable that position has become in Major League Baseball. It's a great question John. I think Madden does manage again and he leaves Chicago as a hero by the way. You end a 108 year hex of not winning a World Series you'll never have to buy a meal in Chicago.