 everybody, and welcome to another episode of I Have Notes. I am one of your hosts, Carrie Shockross, and I Have Notes is a show where we gather people, groups of people, typically four. And these people, they have a surprisingly long IMDB list, surprising in a couple different ways, but I won't get into it. And we talk animation, we talk the creative process, we talk about the idea of a 26 hour day that I'm ready to pitch. But before I can do that, we need to introduce everybody with me, as always is my amazing co-host, Issa Badiola, hello, Issa. Thank you, Carrie. That was an amazing introduction. This is the level that I'm at today. Yeah, I love it. This is the energy I need. Hi guys, I'm Issa, and joining me today, we have two super special guests. So we always call them special because they are. First, we have Wanda for Laurel Yates. Hello, Laura and her cats. We always need the cats. They will certainly be here. We always need one. And we also have with us, Chris Cocinos. Hello, it's me. I'm here. I'm colorful. Coconut. Coconut. Yeah, I told Issa, she's a lot of call me coconuts because that's basically her nickname, but she's the old, and Maggie. Maggie's a lot too, actually. That's sure. And Carrie. Maybe Carrie. Yeah, okay. You know what? Everyone here gets a passage. She can call me coconut just for today. Yeah, I was going to say, I was just like, it's just a one time pass for everyone. But except for me. Except for Issa, who gets it every day. 24 hours. Or 26 and a half, seven. Oh, that was a great segue. I'm just saying, hear me out. Okay. Okay. Obviously, look, there are 24 hours in the day. There's that much time, right? We can't add time to days. That'd be ridiculous. Think about how many times in your day where you're like, okay, I'm going to do this for the next hour. This meeting is going to last for an hour. If we just divided things by 26 instead of 24, those, we would still do things for just an hour, but it would be a shorter amount of time and we would get more things done. Carrie, I don't like that. I don't like that at all. And you know, it's sad. But it also means sleeping more or playing video games more. No, I don't think that this logic, I don't think this logic makes sense. And before we got started on this, you brought this up. I think it does. And Sam and Sam very quickly went to, you know, what would Jack Bauer think of any of this? I don't think he'd like it. I'm kind of pitching like a revolutionary new way of thinking that could like revolutionize humanity. I'll just go ahead and say it, humanity. And the last thing on my mind is people really watching episodes of fucking 23. TV shows only last 44 minutes anyways, most of the time. We don't need more time than that. So if you're still longer than your hour. We'll make it 44 minutes and it's fine. Okay, hang on, how many? Okay, hang on. Do it, do the math. So wait, so like in theory, Carrie, in theory, divided by 26, would we still keep things like an hour length? Like a meeting, would it still be an hour long? Right. Yeah, every hour would now be 50, Sam's saying it's less divisible. Don't say I'm not, absolutely not. Look, every hour would just be 55 minutes instead. Okay, but we would say we would still, if you have an hour long meeting right now, it would still be an hour long, but it'll only be 55 minutes. I hate this conversion. I hate it so much. No, okay, you know what? That's a good point. What about like massages? Like if you get a massage, is it now? Well, you already pay for a 50 minute massage, frankly. Okay, hang on, you know what? Y'all are right, we should divide it by more. Okay. Expensive two hour massage. If we had 30 hour days instead, that would be 48, that would be a 48 minute hour. I don't like this. I don't like where this is going. This is making my brain hurt because this is too much math. I make sound effects, Carrie. Jesus. Okay, you know what? I don't know how to, I'm not a workshop programmer. I'm gonna workshop it. I think 30 is great. It's divisible, 48's a good round number. It all makes sense. I make perfect sense. That's what I'm talking about. And vote for me, vote for me in the next 2048 K-Shaw. 2048. Four day weeks. Four day weeks. Yeah, 26 hours. Yeah, how long's the work week if we do this? Well, I was thinking, we would change weeks to be five days. Okay, bold. Yeah. Wait. Don't think about that one too much. I didn't either. No, no, no, no. Please, please. Yeah, flesh that out, Carrie. No, no, no, don't add him on, don't do it. Okay, so then each day, each of the five days would need to take on some of the hours from the other two that we're losing. So they would get longer, but then the hours themselves would get shorter. I'm hurt. My head hurts. Carrie, I'm just saying this. My head hurts. Not to reveal it behind the curtain. We could just have more weeks in a year. No, Laura, no. Laura. Oh, Laura. Laura. Laura that fucks, that fucks up birthdays. That fucks up the zodiac. Who cares about birthdays? You said it's funny. I thought you were just gonna say, yo, that isn't yours like really soon. You just like, no, no, that's not a lot of things. That's why it's fucked up a lot of things. It's like putting a bunch of Jenga pieces on top of Jello is what we're doing right now. We have Jello at the bottom of this. And we're like, let's put more Jenga pieces on this gelatinous cube and make this really awful logic. Not sound at all really soon. And my birthday is this Friday. Oh, well, actually, by the time this is out for everyone, it is my birthday. Birthday episode. Birthday. Wait, can I tell you? Go ahead, Chris. I was gonna ask, does this come out on your birthday or the day after? It'll come out for YouTube, yeah. It'll be on my birthday. It's my birthday. Yeah, wish you a happy birthday, YouTube. Thanks, YouTube. Can I tell you guys a gift that we can get you? A gift. Oh, were you gonna say something, Laura? Yeah, this actually, I have a question. Was it your birthday that Jordan Swears got the infamous fortune cookie, the fortune that we got that we all hated? Oh, we were talking about it. Yeah, so there's a story where we went to eat dinho and we were all eating in a group and it was one of our big lunches back in the day before COVID. Jordan Swears got a fortune cookie and the fortune was, what was it, Laura? Can you do you remember verbatim what it was? I don't. I really wish I did. I just remember being really mad about it. It was pretty much in summary, the fortune cookie told Jordan Swears, you are the best person here and we all got so pissed off. Wow. I mean, I've seen some bad fortune cookies before. Yeah. We were so mad because he was just like, guys, I just got the best fortune cookie and you're like, shut the fuck up. I was like, no, it's the best one and you can't do anything about it. That's exactly what he was like. That's a very, that's a very good one. He wrote that high horse for the rest of the day, maybe even for the rest of the week, I think. It was, wow. He would always, he would remind us about it. Yeah, I remember that. Can I tell you guys a thing that happened today? Do it. This actually kind of can segue into something else that we wanted to talk about, but my SO and I have a history of catching my SO and the presence that they give me completely by accident. So, how do I put it? Context, they were asking me what I really wanted for my, what I wanted for my birthday, like sincerely wanted. What you really, really want. What I really, really want, spicegirls.mp3 and thank you for laughing Chris Kikinos. As soon as he threw the .mp3 out, I'm like, yo, mad respect, you don't have to dance. Lime wire. Yeah, oh God. And I told my SO, I went, I really, really want a piano and not just like those like piano, keyboard pianos where you like have that rickety stand and stuff. Like I legit want a piano with a backing on it that has the built-in pedals. Like it can be electric, but I just, I want that piano. Not like a grand. Not a grand, no, not an upright. Not like a baby grand. Not a baby grand, not an upright. Just like a regular electric or an electric piano that's basically for middle class people, right? So, thank you for that. You don't want anyone shopping to rent a setup. No, no, like there's like a Steinway down the road. I'm like, no, I'm not about that life quite yet. Sure. Where's that high class, that upper class? That's that high class, yeah. That's the one, that's the 1% keyboard that you get. Yes, yes, I am, I am very strictly in that like low middle class right now. And so. We're in that Yamaha bus. Exactly, exactly. I tell my SO about this and they're like, oh, that's expensive. I ain't going, yeah, I know, but I've been looking and then I would like pull it up. And it is expensive, regardless of a piano you get. It's going to be an expensive gift. Is it, could you give it like a ballpark for somebody who doesn't know? Okay, so the Yamaha ones that have like that backing in it with a built-in pedal and stuff that are pretty heavy, it's a pretty good like electric digital piano, digital keyboard, those can go like around $400. You can find cheaper brands. But if you want that like name brand kind of a thing, because Yamaha tends to be pretty good or pretty, I guess mainstream popular, like notar blah, blah, blah. Yeah, they make great keyboards and boats. And boats. Motorcycles, motorcycles, skis, that's pretty good. Bass, guitar sometimes. Yeah, true. Yeah, sure. Okay, okay. So I told my SO, I really want this but if you get it for me, I will kill you. So you've guaranteed that they will get it for you now. That's a tough spot. Yeah, that you put them in. So for a while they were like, will you really kill me? And I go, no, I will probably cry and I'll yell at you and saying I will kill you but I won't actually kill you. And so today I come out of our, we have a creative meeting and I come out of it early and go out into the hallway and to the doorway and there my SO is like in the middle of pushing the keyboard and then he like looks up at me and they're like, they like look around and then they put the vase of flowers that they got for me on the keyboard and they go, happy birthday. It was like a two minute scramble and I watched it in its entirety. That's so good. And I cried, I sobbed. I am going to cry thinking about it right now. Okay, just stop crying. That's beautiful. I was just like, oh God, I'm so happy right now. That's beautiful. That's really great. I need to kill them. I didn't kill them. After I cried, I like wiped my tears and I went, I'll kill you. You son of a bitch. You son of a bitch. I will love you, you piece of shit. I like that, that quick thinking of throwing the vase and it's like, ha, I've got it. This is what I would use to present this. This is the grand bow for this gift. I, go ahead. When are you going to serenade us? Maybe soon. Can you call it serenading if it's a piano? Is that or is that only singing? I think you can serenade anyone with any musical instrument, be it vocal or otherwise. Serenade. Because serenade's with a guitar too, right? A piece of music sung or played in the open air. OK, so technically a piano inside is not open air. So hang on, I have a big problem with with this dictionary. And comma. Typically by a man at night under the window of his lover. OK, well, that doesn't. That's not what I would call a definition. Webster, what's your what's your issue with it, Gary? I don't understand. Can you explain? Kerry, Kerry drinks the respect women juice. Yeah, man, of course. No, fuck that. I'm not even trying to respect women. I want to be serenaded sometimes. I want to be serenaded. Serenade me. That was the direction. That's that's one direction you can go with that there, Kerry. And I do respect women. I appreciate that. But. But. But. Is that only coming second to the fact that you want to be serenaded? Is that what I'm getting out of this, Kerry? Maybe there's nothing wrong with this. Because OK, fair enough. That was just respecting women, I think, should come theoretically a top five. You know what I mean? Maybe top three. Oh, yeah, three. Well, he said top five. I was like, that's that's a lot of wiggle room. I think like number one or two. I changed my answer. Yeah, like no joke, no joke. I've been to three different websites now and all of them part of the main definition. How have you been in the dictionary yet? Open air at night as by a lover under the window of his lady. That's we're closing that off way too much, y'all. Have you been to Urban Dictionary yet? Have I been to let me let me do it. Or it's probably be like a sex move. OK, I like that. The word of the day is is WAP. Of course it is Macaroni in a pot. It's probably because of Ben Shapiro. A thousand percent it is. OK, Urban Dictionary to So I like this one to appear in front of your lover's window and sing a song for them late at night. You give us an example, Kerry, please. The example that they give. Yeah, my dad kicked my ass because this drunk stranger serenaded me last night. That's sweet. Why can't you serenade during the day? I don't understand why can't you serenade during the day? Why is there an adult man beating what presumably based on all the definitions? His daughter because somebody serenaded him. Very problematic on all fronts. Yeah, there's I'm not liking anything about this. I think I've frozen. I'm frozen. Maybe he said, don't serenade us, but you could perform a song. OK, yeah. Yeah, I do that just in case anybody is curious. WAP does stand for wet ass pussy. Oh, thank you for doing that, Kerry. I didn't know it first. I didn't, but I did learn I. So they have. So did Ben Shapiro. Oh, my God. Laura, it's a medical condition. OK, I can't believe he said that with his mouth and fingers. I guess there's something about that song where even if it's a censored version, it's like even worse than the explicit version. I think it's because of the words that they use to describe it. And suddenly the imagination just goes wild. So I listened to the censored version first. I watched the music video and after that, I spent the next like two days singing there's some whores in this house and terrorizing the household in as a result. And if there were, you would want to know. And I know there's around to you. I had definitely tweeted, they're supposed to this house and my ESO goes. Oh, my gosh. Where? Where? Where? Where are they? And so I watched the music video and with this, like, you know, fascinating, it's not discussed, but it's like one of those things where you just watch it and you go like, I I'm not exactly into this, but there's something really interesting here that I think I should keep watching to find out. And it was the it was it just had the title but they said wet and gushy. And for the longest time I was wondering what does WAP mean? And then out loud as I'm playing the video, so my ESO hears it in their other office, I go, oh, it means this. And it was just a chorus of like, oh yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. And then we put it in about our day. Thank you for listening. You didn't want to say what this was though. No, I said it out loud, but we could like, not for not for the podcast at the moment. Do you do you want me to say that? Drop the ball. Yeah, it's true. We only get to say one of those. I wanted people to know. In case they did it. Ben Shapiro said, can I key word like and I didn't. Can I lay something out here? I'm actually actively still learning urban dictionary words that apparently everybody knows. Like I learned what himbo was yesterday. Only yesterday. Only yesterday. Nice. I mean, ESA. Thank you. I think it didn't show up when he was looking at me. I'm a big dummy, so it's OK. But yeah, ESA goes back to like when we were doing a review and I think I learned shipping from y'all like two years ago. That's how I meant it. I remember this moment. Yeah, it does. Yes. You want the story real quick because I can give it to you. Oh, please. So while you're doing that, Chris, can you tell us what you do? Sure. So my name is my name is Chris Cookiness. This is really here's my roast. Ouch. Chris Cookiness and I am the head of the audio department for restricting animation. So I oversee all the sounds and the mixes and the boops. And I've been here for four and five years and the farts. Don't forget the farts. I think it got less fun when I started getting paid to put farts in like on purpose. I would just hide the idea. Not by me. And then one day we did an episode with Jeremy Farts and it was like, make this one really gross and we're going to do a behind the scenes called Anatomy of the Fart for this. Maggie was really excited. And I'm like, it's not fun to know. It just lost its luster, man. It's good. I would have watched that. No, it was really funny, though. It was really funny. I don't do as much sound design these days. But during one of those reviews, we were sitting down and we have a channel called Ship Ship. And for me, coming from a games background, you know, the freeze ship it was a thing where it's like, hey, it's done or it's not a bug. Ship it. We got to get it out. Get the thing out. So I saw this channel and I'm like, all right, maybe this is the channel we go to to talk about shipping projects. 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Shipping and interns are totally free at FelixGray. FelixGray.com slash I have notes, go now. And whenever we have our all hands for animation, Joe Clary, one of the heads, he always reads poetry and it's very lovely. And it's very good. Oh, no, do you think you would take to get him to read the lyrics to what to WAP WAP WAP WAP. That other word is a very different thing. OK, I don't know that is OK to WAP. What do you think it would take to get him to read the lyrics to that? I mean, literally send it to me, I'll put it in the notes. That's what it looked like. Oh, my God, I mean, technically, Cardi B says WAP, you know, is it like Betty WAP, you know what I mean? I guess it's true enough. You can tell me later what it actually means. It's an old slur. It's an old slur. Oh, OK. Yeah. My yes, I actually looked it up to you. That's not how I meant it. Just being clear. Yeah, it's fine. The first part is going to get cut. It's no big deal. So yeah, Chris, tell us more about Bayes. So anyway, so I learned very quickly that shipping bays are not not cargo holds or places that cargo goes to and from one country. And so I got I got a lot of laughs out of that one from I think it was like Maggie, Issa, Jordan, Laura, I think all four of you were in there. It was everybody to afterwards. And then everybody. Yeah. And then since then, everybody's laughed about it. I mean, especially it was especially funny when Issa dropped an S2G on me. And I was like, oh, yeah, question. What does it mean? That's right to go. Yeah, I know what that means. So for anyone who doesn't know, when you when you type in S2G, it's usually preceded with an I. So it's I swear to God. And I think I was expressing my frustration at like having to do QC so many times, right? It was like three or four in the morning. It was it was very late and I went, this is the last one. I asked to G and Chris Kikino goes, S2G. And then it was history from there. Also, QC is quality control, quality control for talking. Quality check. I feel like S2G is something like Batman says, like swear to God. And then like punch somebody like it's got to be I S2G. Yeah, where are the drugs? I S2G don't S2G S2STM. All right, I swear to me. I got it. Yes, right. I got it. So that's that's me. I'm like, I'm still trying to figure out how to pitch a show about me learning dirty words without it being just a really, really dirty show. I think it'd be fine if it's just a really dirty show. It'd be educational. Yeah, everyone's talking about shipping bays and S2G. You're probably OK. Yeah, it's going to be fine. Yeah, I think that's where it ends, though, Laura. I could I could do an episode. Do you know what sounding is? No, cool. Don't look it up. We'll save it for the show. Oh, OK, cool. Oh, guys, I guess we made a show right now. Yeah. We just said this idea. Do you know what docking is? I know what that word is. OK. Hmm. Oh, my. Is this where we're going now? Did I set us up for this? No, I'll see if I think of another one. I can't believe you don't have sounding. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, it's like your wheelhouse. It seems like something I should know about. Yeah, I mean, no, it's not something I enjoy, but it's something that is funny. And I've talked about before on another podcast. It's a you can Google if you want to. Don't don't do it. Oh, oh, oh, oh, no, Sam, just put something in our discord. This is you put you put something in the out hole. The front one. Oh, oh, oh, I know what this is. Yeah, I've heard about this. Yeah, it's awful. It's making me hurt. Yeah, I don't. It's making me hurt really bad right now. Don't look this up. If you are, if you don't don't do it, don't look this up. Sound is a medical device. A rod, if you will. Oh, oh, oh, oh, I believe the medical term is a pee pee slit. I can't see that. Hey, Laura. Uh-huh. We I like that we both turn to Laura because I was just as if she could. It's as if she could save us from this right now to start bailing. Yeah, yeah, every every every hour. I just like Laura to like save me. Fifty five minutes. Yeah, I'm going to start. I'm going to start a time. Forty eight point five minutes. Yeah. What if I did it by twenty five forty eight? Laura, could you please tell us what you do here? Yeah, whatever. Of course. So I'm the lead producer for Ruby. Volleymate is the first one that I'm producing. Prior to that, I was the post producer for all of our animated content, which is why I'm a part of all these stories that we're telling. Yeah, so like and specifically because we use post kind of in like a couple different ways, but like specifically the editorial and audio section, which also involves color and subtitles and distribution and basically touches like every a very similar audio. It's like it's every thing that I feel. Yeah, yeah, music video. It's I would say that I think it's fair to say that like the editorial and audio teams are like the most service department that we have, like they're less show based than any other department we have inside of our department. Oh, yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah. Yeah, like, you know, most of it's like, you know, OK, we're working on animation for this show, working on cameras for this show. But y'all touch everything. Like literally, yeah, there's a good chance that Laura has watched like actually everything in the animation. Not just a good chance, but three years. Yes. Yes. Yeah, we times seven. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yes, there it is. At least we, I think we we're definitely that's a very good way to put it, like in a lot of ways like this week alone, we're working on Death Battle, Ruby volume eight and some other internal projects, all simultaneously. Ruby D and D, which is another thing we're working on as well, which I think is like it's it's neat that we're doing all these things, but it's absolutely true. We are a service house that basically just try to help focus on every project. And I think it's because we are pipelines don't typically take as long as, say, animation or effects and so on. So we have slightly faster turnarounds, but still pretty crazy deadlines. I mean, it's crazy to think about, too, because you guys, everyone in post involved in what Laura does now as well as you guys, even though you're not you don't take as long, you guys are still involved in actually every step as well. Or like it seems like you guys are still involved even from like the middle of everything happening at the same time. Yeah, it's true. I mean, you all kind of started out with Vio and animatics. And then it kind of goes off and then comes back and then goes off and comes back. So it's definitely like the the hub of the production in terms of just like keeping track of like where everything's at. So but then, yeah, it's the engine room of the ship. Yeah. Oh, well done. Love that. The one that we ship, the one that we ship basin, right? Yeah. OK. Shocking. I just want to make sure. Oh, my. Oh, OK. Yeah. One of the things the thing we're actually going to talk about is the Ruby D&D campaign a little bit. But I had a thing I wanted to ask you all about. I thought it'd be fun to ask you all because, you know, you haven't been on the show, so be, you know, some fresh ears, mine's eyes. I want to ask y'all about hobbies. Not lobbies, but hobbies. Hotel lobbies. OK. I mean, they could I. Hey, whatever your proclivities are, I don't I don't know, Chris. I don't know what your hobbies are. These are the fun. That's a really that's a fun voice to carry. Yes, this is my. I'm I'm an innkeeper in a lobby. Chris Frequence here often. Yes, I do. I can't not move my fingers when I talk like this. It brings them closer, Kerry. No, to my chin. Yeah. So I. It's my hobby at the hotel lobby. OK. We're all, you know, we're all in the creative industry. I think, you know, our jobs, all of our jobs, like go in and out of, you know, are we working on like a creative thing where you're working on a more production thing? How I struggle a lot. And I've been thinking about this more recently of of like having hobbies and things that are like bettering myself when like I end every day like just completely fried. And then like the weekend is just like recovering and, you know, because I'm a big fan of like I feel like having like hobbies or interests or things, you know, things that you're like researching or trying to learn, like can like make you feel better and take your mind off of, like, you know, things that are stressing you out or anything like that. But like, how do you like, do you all have a way that you manage that? Because I am I don't. Or and also just like, what are your hobbies? I think I think it's, you know, hearing about what other people do is really interesting and especially people in this field. I feel like sometimes I have unique hobbies. Hobbies. Hobbies. Hobbies are fun. Hobbies are fun when you have time for them, right? Will you ever have time though? Or do you have to make time? You have to make time. You have to make time for yourself. You have to say you have to say, hey, I'm going to today. I'm going to carve out this chunk of time, regardless of what is happening in the world and I'm going to do this thing. And and unfortunately, a lot of that is, you know, you're beholden to someone else's schedule. Be it if you're married or have a significant other or family, other life events. So kids sometimes you can't you can't control. Cats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Some knuckleheads. Yeah. Well, I think in a lot of ways, for me, I've really leaned into streaming as a hobby. Mm hmm. It kind of scratches all the senses for me. I get to entertain. I get to be entertained because I'm playing games. I get to engage with people, especially now that we are currently on lockdown. And I get to I get to tinker. I get to make this room look as good as I wanted to look because that's what I do. And it's very much so like MacGyverd. It's like all hell. But it looks good. It looks good from here to tinker. Thank you. I appreciate that. It's taken me a solid like two and a half, three years to get it to look this good, to acquire the camera, to acquire my lights, to figure out how to get everything to look solid to tinker. I like to tinker. I'm a tinker boy. Tinker boy. No, we're going to scratch that. Don't don't use that. Don't use it. But yeah, so that's that's my thing. I think being busy is like my favorite thing. Oh, it's kind of a weird, interesting hobby. But yeah, streaming is fun and making music. Sick beats, sick beats, what kind of what kind of beats do you want to play? Yeah. I typically play my acoustic guitar when I am making music, and I am usually playing covers of things like, you know, Wonderwall. Oh, hell yeah. Stairway to Heaven. Please, yeah. I will ask you not to serenade us, but please perform for us sometime. Yeah. I'll try to not make it a serenade. Chris, you can serenade me. Thank you. Well, here's the thing. Chris can serenade me. Carrie's dream. Yeah. He'll be serenading me and you'll just be observing the serenade. You're observing. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Passersby just watching as I play some Death Cab for Carrie or whatever. Oh, yeah. That's the band. It's Death Cab for Carrie. Yeah. Death Cab for. Oh, I like that one. Yeah. How do you know the name of my autobiography? I was going to say I wrote it, but then that wouldn't be an autobiography. That's what makes it beautiful. Yeah, singing and playing guitar is a secondary hobby that I've been doing for a couple of years. So I want to hear from everybody else too real quick, but I was going to ask you as a follow up to what you're saying about about, you know, being busy, do you consider yourself more of an introvert or more of an extrovert? Oh, I am. And I have I have decided that I am what people have considered an ambivert. That means you eat meat, right? Oh, my God, Carrie. No, no, it means I eat everything. Oh, that's right. OK, right. No, I I have my times, my moments where I go out and I have fun and I can feel like I get really excited, especially when I'm hanging out with friends. But then I also have times where I'm going out and I feel completely like batteries drained right when I do shows. You should mention Wedding Chris. Oh, yeah, Wedding Chris. Wedding Chris is a different person. He's my he's my alter ego. Your alter ego, OK. Yeah, what increases? Well, yeah, you know what? Sure, why not? Is K with and a party hat on one of the letters? Yeah, that's my that's my that's my South Florida version of me. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. That pops off. But yeah, so I'm a long answer was a short answer. Now, I guess is I'm an ambivert. I like to do a little bit of everything. But but sometimes I need my batteries to recharge, man. I feel it. That's what soundings for. Oh, my God, Carrie. Um, no wedding Chris is a compliment because you are an incredible dancer. So you really undersold yourself in that. Oh, I appreciate that. I have fun. I've been I've been I just I like to dance. I like to move. I'm Greek. And, you know, that's a big part of the culture there. So I think we know we just like to boogie, man. We just like to have a good time. Yeah. Why is it that there is like I feel like I'm so sorry. I'm going to change it here. I feel like a majority of people who really like identify with their culture will usually say something about how great they are or like how dancing is always a big thing. And I'm like, not for white people. That's what I'm saying. I'm like, wait, so. Yeah, we don't got the groove. I, you know what? Well, I'll put that down. We could pick it up for another time. OK. I love to hear Laura's hobbies. That was easy saying like, nope, Carrie's going to take this in a bad place. Yeah, I don't want to think about that right now. We'll get back to this later. Like, later, later, later, later, later. Same if you want to write that down. Yeah, no, that was a super easy lead in. So, so Laura, what are some of your hobbies? So I have to say most of my hobbies are things that are very different now that we're in quarantine. And so a lot of what I do now is I try to find a corollary, you know, so things that I used to love, what can I do now that's kind of similar? So examples, I used to see every movie ever in theaters and I can't anymore and there are as many new movies. But I try to watch movies that are new to me constantly. Music shows, I go to see a lot of live music, you know, we're in Austin and I really miss being able to do that. But I can't. So instead, I'll order a record that I've never heard before and just listen to it all the way through like a show, you know. So I kind of recreate the experience. And I like to take a lot of hikes or like nature walks or walk through gardens. And while I can still, you know, take hikes and do that a little bit. I've actually started growing more plants to try to get into my home because I can't I'm not always as comfortable being out and games. I love board games. I'm a tabletop game player, like to the end. That's what I love to do. But because I can't get together with groups, I'm getting a lot more into video games than I used to be. So that's really what I've been doing is just, I don't know, trying to find the new version of things that I already love that I can do now. That's you're not letting the awesome the Ronas stop you. Yeah, so far. No. Yeah. So interesting and awesome, because I think for me, like a lot of my hobbies, like when people ask me like, well, how are you doing like in quarantine? I'm like, you know, I miss people like I miss people a lot. But like a lot of my hobbies are still pretty much the things I already do. Yeah. Right. So it's kind of like what you like your breakdown learn of like all your hobbies is really neat, because it sounds like you're doing a really nice mishmash or mix of indoor activities and yeah, finding things that make you happy. And I think that that's that's important. I think I kind of lost my way. And this is kind of an interesting revelation for me, but I kind of like I've lost my way in terms of like what makes me truly happy. And I think that it's it could be a byproduct of doing too much of the same thing. Oh, I get that. Oh, yeah. Being indoors and playing the same games. This stuff brings me momentary happiness. But I think at the end of the day, like like finding finding the thing that you can do to enjoy both indoor and outdoor, because I mean, we need to be outdoor. We are creatures that are made to at least experience some level of big disagree. But go ahead, Kerry, you need that vitamin D. Yeah, I drink milk. What vitamin, vitamin milk has vitamin D in it. Big D stands for big demeanor, Kerry. Wait, does it actually have vitamin D in it? I'm pretty sure. Yeah, milk has milks like a great source of vitamin. There's some there's some calcium and vitamin C. But maybe no, vitamin juice, idiot vitamin C's fruits. You're right. Vitamin D. Milk, vitamin D. First, first thing. Like I trust me, I know my milk. I'm a himbo. Also, I just want to call out like Chris saying something really earnest and like that he's really cares about and feels and then everyone's just immediately crapping on it. Sorry, Chris. Yeah, this is basically every episode of every show I'm ever on. So it's fine. You get dunked on a little bit. That's why you do. You get a little dunked. It's out of love, though. I'm five foot six. It's easy to dunk on me, man. I can't even reach the bottom of a net. So we good. Yeah. What's it like being five foot six and not five foot seven? Yeah, Kerry. Or five foot six and a half like me. I appreciate five foot seven on a good day. I appreciate that. Laura is the tallest one out of all of us. Yeah, I'm the one out. Yeah, I got almost five, 10. Yeah, I get those good hugs. I miss hugging you, Laura. I miss hugging you, too. I actually thought about that the other day. I went to get a glass of water and I thought, like, if I was in the office in the kitchen getting water, he would be hugging me. It's true. That was anyway. Yeah, that's why I've started collecting body pillows of everybody in the office. Oh, that's why I carry. So then I can hug them. OK, no, yeah, that's fine. That's normal. I'm not like, oh, my God. I feel I'm in danger. I feel like I'm in danger down here. Well, just so you know, your body pillow is not in danger. Yeah. I'm going to keep him very safe. Don't worry, Chris. Listen, Eesa, Laura, just stay on, like, on that side over there. It's OK. I'll protect you. OK, OK. Yeah. He's mine now. Oh, my. I am seriously thinking about, like, I feel like when, you know, we get like a vaccine. Like, basically, when we know that we're safe again, like, handshakes and, like, just seeing people is going to be replaced with hugs in the office. Like, the first, like, month back. It's going to be like, oh, hey, Chris, what's up? Let me talk to you about this thing real quick and then we'll hug and then talk. And then you'll talk about it and you'll whisper each other's ear about it. Listen, I'm like I said, I'll say it again. I'm Greek. I already do that shit. Yeah, exactly. I always I'm like, I love. I mean, it's always a hugger, consensual, consensual hugs only. But if you're down for hugs, I am there to give you like a big old hug. And then, you know, we're going to catch up, talk about your family and tell you how to make some Zatziki. I'll sneak up behind you, Chris, and hug you. You don't even know I'm there. And then I've been practicing. And I'd be part of the conversation. Yeah. Chris will be talking to someone. I'll just sneak up like, hey, what's up, bud? How's it going? Hey, can I listen? Hey, guys. I won't. I won't. I'm going to keep my hands on myself. So to get back to it. I actually really like the way that you're going about finding things to do in terms of your hobbies, Laura, because I think that's that's actually a really smart way to go about it. And Chris, I think you hit on something that I do intrinsically believe in, which is kind of like, oh, you are doing the same thing over and over again. So it is kind of just I think at what point do you is something that you really love? At what point does that become feel like a chore sometimes, you know? And I think that's also that's something I've come across in terms of like drawing, growing up drawing used to be my hobby, but now it's now it's my job. So there's that big not disconnect, but it is like kind of this has evolved question mark into something that I have this attitude about where now even like a family, I'm definitely that person who will not look happy if a family member asks me if they can just if I can draw something for them, you know, it is fine. Pay me. Yeah, pretty much, you know, and I sound like a huge brat. And it is not something I derive a lot of joy out of anymore because it's it's a really it's one of those things. I think a lot of artists I know have that like same attitude, like the same feelings towards is kind of just like this conflicting idea. But Laura, I think the way that you go about is like it is both new and old at the same time. And I think that's really that's really pleasant. I really like that. I think one of the things or you said you said, what are your hobbies? I actually would consider paper buying paper craft kits and putting them together a hobby. There's like two separate out of two. Buying them and doing them. I mean, buying them, researching which ones you want. That's a hobby. I'm serious. Shopping is my hobby. Yeah. But I think for me, I I realize I derive a lot of pleasure from just following a set of instructions. And yeah, if I'm looking at something to like turn my brain off, that is actually the best way. It's just kind of like dumbing down something so I don't have to really think about it as hard. And then that is something I actually kind of enjoy spending time on. Even if it feels a little like useless, isn't that what some some hobbies are sometimes? That's OK. So that's what I was going to ask. Because I think that's that's part of like the core of like kind of like a problem I have a lot is this show. This whole show is like Kerry has a problem. Can everybody help solve it? I love that show. So to me, like if you asked me, Kerry, what are your hobbies? I play video games. I'll read sometimes. I am learning Japanese, which I think is kind of a hobby. It's 100 percent a hobby. OK. And I I like messing around with, like, you know, I don't get to do very often, but like, you know, like old, like, like changing out the shell of a gameboy and like basically like messing with like a raspberry pie, like, you know, like, like text, thinker, project stuff. I like to tinker. Oh, no. The finger finger. Tinker finger. Tinker fingers. These are my tinker fingers. Like something about saying the phrase tinker fingers. I feel like if I just mess up like one syllable, I'm offending somebody. Yeah, like it's really I don't even know what it would be. You're teetering on that edge. Yeah, I don't I can't even think about what it would be. But it seems like it would be. Anyways, but so I have this weird thing where, yeah, to me, like doing stuff more like along the lines of like, like playing video games or like building a model kit, like to me, hobbies are more successful for me in terms of like relaxing. It's like, yeah, if I'm completely turning my brain off, right? And but I do, then I feel that guilt of cool. Model kit. I could have spent all that time doing something vocabulary or like finally getting in a blender more. And it's not that I don't also enjoy those other things, but they are work also. Yeah. Yeah, they are. So it's like. Yeah, maybe I mean, part of it is just like being OK with like wasting time. I think video games like the closest for me where I can play a video game and. You know, I think there's an argument made of like, OK, I got story out of it. You know, video games have always been a passion of mine to be cool to work on one one day. So it's like, OK, well, that's a little bit more like knowledge now. And I enjoyed the time doing it, but I could have also probably not done it. And I would be mostly the same person. I don't know. It's like I just I get I get that guilt. That's that's my problem. I get I got a lot of guilt. I can't get you can't get yourself with that, man. No, I'm going to enter a new hobby, which is helping support Kari until you understand that doing things that you enjoy for yourself. I'm here for that. It's not a waste of time. It's an important use of time. Yeah. Hundred percent. I appreciate it. Hundred percent. The problem I have, though, half the time, too, is like, and this is one of the things I was going to ask you about is like, OK, we're going to finish we're going to finish recording this. Little people behind the curtain. We're going to finish recording this by about eight o'clock. You know, I've got call it two and a half hours before I need to start trying to go to sleep or the next day is going to be useless. I all I want to do is just sit on the couch and do nothing. That's all I want to do. But if that's all I ever do. I'm not going to like better myself or I'm not even going to like relax. I'm just going to kind of like veg out. Listen, you know, this is this is one of the most important things I've ever learned from my father, from my friends, my family, my therapist. You have to be loving and accepting of yourself for who you are and the things that your body is telling you that you need to do. But you also need to find balance, right? If you every day come home from work and you're like, I got to fix that crack in the ceiling. Got to think about it. You think about it every day. There is a crack in my ceiling, Chris. There's a crack in everyone's ceiling. We live in Texas. It's always hot. Everything's settling. It's awful. The point is, though, man, the point is, though, is that you have to be accepting of the fact that like balance is key. Maybe after this, if you spend 30 minutes doing one thing that you think might better you a little bit and then spend the other two hours of your evening getting lost in whatever game you're going to play or putting together, you know, gameboy cartridges or gameboys as a whole or whatever it is, whatever it is you want to do that brings you some sense of joy. You should do that because we have such limited time on this planet and you should not spend any time of your days overly worrying about that shit. Like, let that shit go, dude. Like, no one's asking to become the best at any of those things. You don't have to be like some kind of, you know, person who just gets lost in learning Japanese and oh, now I'm the best person in the world that can speak this particular language. Like, you don't have to spend all this time getting into that. Like, little by little, no one has any expectations of you. This is for you and for you alone. And I think that we set such high bars for ourselves that we effectively get in our own heads about it. So whenever this is done, go do whatever you have to do for 30 minutes or break for a little bit and then do that thing for 30 minutes and then fuck off for like the rest of the evening. You like I'm going to cry one. I completely agree with what you just said, Chris. Two, are you willing to share the shirt or no shirt game that you play with your dad? Oh, I am segue. I am not. No, no, no. I'm not making light. It actually lends a lot of credence to his advice because he's such a genuine person. What a fucking segue. I love this. You credence to my advice or to my father's advice. Yes. Yeah. Oh, my God. OK, all right. Wow, what a what a left turn where I'm not prepared. But here we go. Let's roll. Let's roll. OK, so shirt under shirt is a game that I play with my very what you say, very handsome, fifty five year old Greek father. Oh, my God. Is he a very. Oh, oh, but with better advice. OK, OK. A sage like a sage like him sage like Kimbo, who who now apparently has like a six pack. He's been like kicking, kicking ass. Oh, my God. Yeah. So so my pops, my pops lives in Florida. And we play this game every day every time we go out. Well, when we used to go out drinking, maybe we'll do it on like a zoom call in these days. But I would face time my father and everybody would in the in the group would guess shirt or no shirt. Oh, my God. And the idea if you don't get it thus far is I'm going to face on my dad and everyone's betting on whether or not he is or is not wearing a shirt. Oh, my God. And has it ever been sure like one or one or two times and the one time. No, it's it's only been a few times, right? And one of those few times was when he was out at a restaurant with with my stepmom and I kid you not. Oh, yeah, in New Year's. That was another time he was out with with my stepmom for dinner and FaceTiming him and I got all the people behind me. They're all cheering. Yeah. And he goes to start taking his shirt off. Oh, my God. At a restaurant. My stepmom's like, honey. No, I can't put my shirt down. That's the best. He's my I love my pops. He's a good. He's a good dude. What a guy. Yeah. It's very endearing. Yeah, if he gives advice through you, I will listen to it for sure. I'm a conduit for my shirtless father. A weird sentence. Yeah, I'm a conduit for my shirtless father's advice. There we go. That's a way better way to put that. Well, what does with this episode of this podcast has turned into as less of us talking about the D&D campaign and more why you should watch it because these two amazing people are on it as well. And they're very funny and good people. We should probably talk about that or everybody mad at us. So, yeah, this when you're OK, it's the it comes out on the 15th. So when you're watching this, if you're it'll be it'll almost be out. Oh, it's almost 20 or two days a day or two from after this. Yeah, the Ruby, the grim campaign comes out. It features myself, Laura, Chris and Chad, James playing. Yeah, Chad and Eddie is DMing and it's a it's a series based in the Ruby world. You know, there's some there's going to be some clues in there for y'all of like when it when when it's going on. So I'll let y'all discover it. But yeah, we if you go to our twitters, you can see the our characters that we put out. We've already recorded some episodes. It's it's really fun. I mean, I'm just like, I really look forward to playing every week because it's just like, oh, that's so nice. Very refreshing. Yeah. It's been neat. It's been neat to see how everybody's like adapting to their characters. Yeah, especially just a Chad's never played before, which is really cool. Oh, really? Chad's never played before. Super surprising. I've never played a campaign that lasted more than like three games. Nice. And Eddie's never DM'd before. Yeah. Laura, Laura's like a D&D expert and Chris, like Chris, you also know what's up. So it's it's been a good mix, but like I again, you know, just just me being in it, like I just I've had so much fun. And I feel like like we all really care about our characters, which is cool to see like how quickly that happened. Yeah. But yeah, you know, so excited to watch it. Yeah, we would we appreciate if you check it out. Do I like I'm I'm like excited. I said, me too, question mark. And I'm like, I'm like, I've never watched myself play D&D before. But I'm like, are you afraid? I'm still not going to watch myself play D&D. I hate to watch myself on camera. Just don't. That's what I do. But I want to see it play out. I want to see how it works. I know. And also I have to I have to watch it because we're doing audio for it. But oh, haha, you do. Thank you, by the way. Yeah, thanks to Jake Kamida. Yeah, Jake. No, I yeah, I've already decided I'm not going to watch it till we're done filming because I just want to play the game and have fun and be in the moment and not, you know, yeah. Think about it beyond that. Yeah, you know, it's so much fun, though. No matter how much we've all played D&D or not or DMed or not. Yeah, this is our first D&D show that we're doing. So, you know, bear with us. But it's it's a lot of fun. Yeah, we're doing some really cool stuff with a tailspire, which is this like 3D program that was kickstarted that kind of like lets you like build out your world and your characters and and like act especially for like action. It's been really awesome. And they were super cool and got some like custom grim models like in the game. It's amazing for us. It's super, super. It's really cool. It's so cool. I mean, the way that my brain works, like I love to do the theater, the mind stuff, but I also being able to see where everyone exists in a plane is just it's so helpful. And it's I don't know. There's just now that everything we do is digital. This is a way to do it that actually feels the same as tabletop gaming. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. Yeah, we've had like a good mix of like kind of doing both. And I definitely like both. But like there's there's something very cool about like all of a sudden seeing a grim like on screen like that, you know, when we saw the when we saw that model pop in there, it was like it went off. Yeah, it was really cool. Even if they're huge. They are. Yeah. And even if it was some people go in the wrong direction, I won't say who or why or when what will foreshadowing. What I'm just saying, there might be a particular episode where no one goes in the wrong direction. Or maybe one person has an idea. We'll see. But yeah. So did you want to did you want to take a moment to talk about the characters at all? So brief glimpse into the characters. Yeah, we could. I'm an anime boy. Who are y'all? Wow, that covers it. That's it. I like that. I'm a big furry himbo. There you go. That's me. Big furry himbo at your service. Nice. Who's your character? Oh, no, I was saying that like, that's you. But who's your character? Yeah, I got it after I was like, I can answer seriously. Yeah, he did. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, yeah, I was really, yeah. That's how you know a joke's good when no one gets it. It hit me like seconds later. Laura, do you want to summarize your character? Yeah, summary. Sure. Yeah. My character is a rostrous guy and she's a faunus who is smart and so strong, not great with people. Doesn't put up a shit. Oh, yeah. Um, no. She's kind of me, but a little bit stronger and meaner. And I love her. It's a great character. She is delightful. I definitely feel like we all put a little bit of ourselves into. Yeah, I think it makes sense. It's the base you start with. And then you, you know, grow from there. But it's it's funny because as soon as I pitched my character to Laura, Laura's like, so you mean it's you. And I'm like, oh, yes. Which is funny because I typically play more charismatic characters. I typically play like barbs and such. You don't think you're charismatic, Crisco? Like me as a human being. Yeah. You as a bear. Like what? Yeah, she's a human being. I'm a lion. Take it easy. Yeah, I see you there. I was just saying like I was really bad. Could mean something else to you. I just meant as anyway. Oh, Carrie, you're not a bear. You're more of an otter. I think I think I'm. Am I wrong? I am, too. Do the zoom and think, Christy. I don't know if it's set. I don't know if it's in the right place. It's probably not the right place. Otters unite. All of my information about that comes from that one episode of Always Sunny. So I'm just assuming. No, I think, yeah, I think as a as a person, as a human being. Yeah, I think I consider myself fairly charismatic. But I think what I'm kind of going for here is my character is not charismatic. Mine is my character now. So my bards are usually more in line with me as a person, I think. But this guy is a little bit more. He's a little bit more of an angi boy. I'm upset. And when it gets upset, well, I guess just to see what happens. I guess what to find out. But yeah, that's August 15th. If you're listening to this when it comes out, that's a day or two away. If you're listening to this episode on the 16th, that's a day ago. Go watch it. If you're listening, if you're listening to this in 2048, then it came out. Yeah, yeah. And you can you can find out more about your president and how he enacted our new concept of time. Thirty eight. Thirty eight hour days. I hate it. Oh, my God. I hate it so much. I don't know who knows how long the episodes will be. Thirty minutes, an hour, an hour and a half. What time scale? Who knows? I actually don't know how long this episode is. Well, I think that's going to wrap it up on this episode of I Have Notes. As always, please, please, please. If you wouldn't mind commenting, liking, sharing, whatever makes sense for the platform that you're watching on, we would appreciate it. And yeah, also, as always, go watch Recorded by RSL, please. Oh, yeah. Yes, everyone do that, please. Immediately. 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