 for Gina Powers and obviously I'm the presenter and so our topic today is what color is your medicine and as you can see I left some copies of the five elements in front of you just to give you a brief as we go through you can always just keep referring to that in some way shape or form but I ended up writing a book from the fires and it was it's called what colors your medicine enter the depths of your heart with the five elements of Chinese medicine and so I started my career path in Western medicine I actually started right here at Vermont College in Montelier as a registered nurse back in the early 80s and I then succinctly continued to go to school and became a family nurse practitioner and I met somebody here in Montelier and we were together for ten years and in that ended the ten-year span he passed away suddenly he was 35 years old and it was something I my system didn't understand and for the period of the wake and the funeral and all that it was a period that I truly became very frozen and I didn't know this but anyways after that someone gifted me to see a healer they said this is going to help you and now I just want you to get how well versed I was in Western medicine I was in emergency medicine and working very fast-paced and thought I knew everything why would I need a healer what are they going to do for me that I can't do for myself and so I ended up going reluctantly probably about a month later but the person that had gifted me really you know this person works with Bernie Siegel he's from France he's not going to be in this country for very long and all this stuff and none of that stuff meant anything to me and so until I went in and gave my little gift certificate to him he didn't really speak much English he didn't understand he didn't know I had lost somebody and I quite quickly was put onto a table and the minute I got onto the table he just started in my heart and it was just instantly I began to cry didn't say anything just the energetic holding of whatever was going on in my heart continued continued and continued and so one hour later I was full my sinuses were blocked I couldn't breathe and he started pushing and what I now know is pressure points on my toes and so I was like wow this is like a miracle at the same time I'm balling crying and I realized after it was over he got me up and I sashayed out there was no mirror there was no you know powder room and so I then got onto a bus and to get myself back home and I'm holding on to the handle of the bus and this guy starts to hit on me asking me what I was doing later and I'm just thinking I probably still it's not hanging off me my hair is a mess I was on a table but you know that's all the thing I'm registering and I'm thinking he's blind and so I get off that one and I go on to another one another bus to get myself home and the exact same thing happens and you know the whole time I'm thinking there's something not right but there must be crazy and maybe I'm you know I'm in San Francisco and I get back to my apartment in my roommate I walk in and she said wow do you need like what did you do did you get cut your hair today like you didn't tell me and I just went to my room I didn't say anything the next day I go into work exact same thing happens asked me have you lost weight what did you do and so it was the beginning of when I realized that the emotional holdings that I had in my physical body structurally changed me but I could not still make sense of it right I was young but I was also I just didn't think that the entire time I was on that table I was grieving Billy like I that just did not commute in my body and so I then ended up calling my friend he gifted me and said I want to go back to that guy and he's like why and I go because I cried the whole time and I know I still have more tears in me and that's why but that was my only logic like at that point and so then it truly that began my study that began my study of there's something so much more out there and all I thought I knew I knew nothing because the realm of healing really if we think of our bodies our minds and our spirits especially now because of just this genre of integrative health and but if we don't have harmony in all aspects of our body our mind and our spirit health really doesn't come in in a way that we're in a balanced state just as you said right I'm going to balance it out and the wild thing is that the element the medicine of the element it really helped me situate like what was that balancing are and the only reason I I got to that was I ended up studying a variety of things and so I ended up at a four-year school of energy medicine first I became a reiki master then I became touch for health I look like investigated all the stuff because at the same time remind I'm still working in emergency medicine and so I'm still making you know way but everybody that I started to meet I'd be so in somebody up and you'd be like hey have you ever been down to Chinatown have you ever gotten any herbs for anything these guys are amazing so here I am down to Chinatown and every person that would I was in the emergency room one day and I felt like crap and this respiratory therapist out of the blue hey Regina you look like crap today and I go yeah I feel like it and so she goes sit down I just got acupuncture I have needles she puts them in my body pulls a curtain I'm on a gurney 15 minutes later I sit up and I'm like what did she do to me like I just I felt fine I finished my entire 12-hour shift and I was like I was not in the mood to be working I was fine so all this stuff started to be introduced to me so I finally ended up at an integrated medicine conference and the first speaker was a doctor on AUNG never forget him little Chinese man and he stood up there and he worked with people's energy and it wasn't about I'm a master of this I'm a master that but he brought somebody up and he basically turned their field upside down and it was all with energy and I was fascinated he brought us into our taunty and the note that holds you in your physical body like he just taught us like introduction really into Chinese medicine and it wasn't so much that I was fascinated with Chinese medicine it was the energy that he was to all the art skills that he was doing that I was fascinated with but the one thing he handed out to this day I still have the sheet this is almost 30 years later and as you can see it's been copied a million times over and this was what he handed out and he went through the way that the body has a way of storing and a way of really storing energy when it's not in flow and so I was truly drawn into the elements the organ structure the emotional structure color was fun you know I ended up getting to sit with him at lunch one day and I was in a blue shirt a brilliant blue shirt and he it's an interesting color for you you need that you need deep reflection you need he just boom boom boom boom boom boom and here I am crying I have no idea why I'm crying but he read my soul like he read internally in me that I couldn't ever explain it to anyone but I knew that there was medicine in that so what I did I took this sheet and I ended up going back into I covered family practices for people and I worked emergency medicine the week I got back this physician in gloss said hey can you cover my practice and going away I said sure no problem I have my little sheet in hand and first girl comes in 14 year old girl Pales could be she comes in no mother it's a guardian so I knew right away family system was off right I thought I'm not gonna start with that I'm like hey you got any medical problems what's going on with you and she's like yeah he's in here like oh okay use anything else yeah he's a little cream when I get an edge and so you know remind you I have my little sheet in hand now and I'm well versed in this now for my five-day conference but I thought I'm gonna give it a shot and I just look and I said hey you know it's funny the lung carries a bunch of different things and I just learned this stuff and I'm just wondering have you lost anybody in your life and she said yeah that's so weird you asked me that my grandfather died oh when was that and she goes when I was eight I go when she started using your inhaler she goes when I was eight so we just went through her whole life and a very snapshot just just what the paper said and I said wow it's wildest thing so each of these open in different ways and the interesting thing is the earth is the element of relationship it's the element of family its community but it also has to do with how you feel supported and how you feel nurtured and so this kid I knew had nobody but a guardian in the room with her and it wasn't a relationship that was a nerfy you could just you could feel it was I'm here because I'm supposed to do this this is my task it's the buses you know and the first thing I said to her was wow did you and your grandfather do anything fun together did you have a song your filament opens with singing it's the most nurturing of them all but it's the nurturing to the south and right away the kid oh my god that's so weird you ask me that this is a 14-year-old girl who's as pale as can be we had I had a plastic keyboard and I played class keyboard and grandfather and I said I want to hear this song and you could sing it I'll sing along with you yeah you know she didn't need me to do anything she just burst into the song and as she burst into the song the guardian is crying I'm crying she's bawling her eyes out and in that moment it was her whole face was white but she was a pale kid that just he could tell she just was depressed and life was not happy for her she pinked up like she had knew her heart just burst open in front of me and that was my very first case the very first time I used this shoe and that was really the beginning of me of a 25-year process of I want to say hiding but I will tell you I was in partly never sharing what I was doing because at the same time I was learning energy medicine at the same time I was studying all these different things so for me if I was to touch this girl it was to open up her lung worthy at the same time she's crying and put her hand on her heart so the rest of her body could start to feel like oh wow and so this ended up as you can tell the the stomach itself and the spleen and the earth element this is probably one of the most significant of the elements and I say this now after digesting the book for almost a year now but also I've been working with this for 25 years and I never took the time out until after the fire to really digest them to the point of allowing the medicine to really come into me and I'll tell you why I ended up working with cancer patients once a week for the last two years up until the fire and I realized with cancer that there's a flow with it that is a there's a stuckness right and in the breast cancer that's part of the earth element it's fortified in our muscles but it's also fortified in our soft tissue and in energy the way it works is the left side is how we receive and the right side is how we let go and in the most predominant breast cancers in the United States of America is on the left breast and I'm not saying that there's a correlation about receiving but I am going to say that I've seen enough and I've been working with patients long enough that the majority of the patients that I worked with in the left that couldn't receive they could over extend they could give to their nth degree to their kids their family in the midst of their chemo having reconstruction breast surgery still bring the kids to soccer and has been still working and so I say this because it's not I don't have the answer to it but I will say that when I bring this type of medicine in the biggest piece of this is about taking care of the cell and the relationship with the cell and the relationship and the boundaries with the cell and the reason I say this is because to be the compassion or to hold the compassion for our self we have to be able to understand like what that really means to nurture ourselves in Christine Northrup she writes many things in women's bodies women's health and in the book I do quotes of different things but one of the things it's so poignant with her is that she said women have difficulty receiving they have a difficulty receiving love they have difficulty receiving pleasure they have difficulty receiving breast they have difficulty just receiving for themselves and part of it is that we import it through alcohol we import through different ways of sugar different means that we feel like we feel happy with it but it doesn't create like in our in our but his harmony in the body of the mind and the spirit like we're avoiding that harmony by ways that we basically don't find pleasure in our system and the extension in each one of the elements has an imbalance right so in the earth the imbalance is overextending is worry is obsession is obsessed with detail there's certain things in each one of the categories that in the opposite light of it is empathetic sympathetic compassionate those are the places in us that when we take and fully receive that stuff in for own self-care that's really our health care for a cell and so I always put the slide in of self-care in the earth because the enormity of it is huge but one of the things with giving and receiving is that they're inherently interconnected and if we block one we block the other and this is a fun little thing that I do I do journey work I do a variety of things but if you just sit with yourself for a minute like right now and just go inward put your feet on the ground it's a little exercise and you can do this at home true truly when you're like really inward but this is just to teach you a little bit about how to check in with your own system in the balance of it so if the left hand is up and the right hand is down it's like we're a little tea kettle right and you know short and spout when it's tip me over bore me out the whole little cute little scenario but the reality is when we overextend ourselves right so you just even put that in part in your system about when you over given right and this part of the receiving piece from any part of our system ends up to be almost like it doesn't exist in a way that should be in a balanced state that if we feel like I'm just gonna do this I'm gonna do that I'm gonna do this this part of the receiving it's almost like we can take in breadcrumbs for ourselves and we think that's enough but the reality is it doesn't create balance because if you look at this as a system just even breathing into your own self when you're alone at home just breathe in to ask where in my life and you can ask where in relationship where in my body where is it that they're you're deeply not receiving for yourself and you're overextending and notoriously when I'm on the land or on the earth with people this truly they close their eyes they go inward and it's oh it's I would say 98.9% of the time that imbalances is truly palpable in their system the other piece of this is that with this blockage piece if our boundaries around ourself aren't truly like in healthy relationship with ourself we end up having difficulty with relationship with other and so the part of the self-care piece of that like Renee Brown has recently done a lot of information about giving and receiving the boundaries she ended up doing a Netflix cameo did you see that yeah and it was all about bondage and it's you know I mean self-care I could say this and it's easy to digest but do we really like stop to do some of these things and the daring to set boundaries is about having the courage to love ourselves even when we risk disappointing others and I think that really just brings it home because it is daring to love ourself enough that we're it's okay to say no it's okay to stop in the moment of I'm not really sure how I feel let me get back to you just that statement alone is a boundary state of not overextending and you know the piece of this like there's another there's so many different points in our body and because of the system that I use I use a lot of acupressure and the self-compassion these are just are just giving you tidbits to play with them yourself but so again remember the left side is how we take in right my right side is how we let go and so the self-compassion point is right up here just under your clavicle and so I just ask you know yeah just take your two finger points nobody has to disclose anything this is just a self-check on yourself and when you really you're rubbing the point if there's any tenderness yeah and honestly it's just a you breathe behind the point and then you just keep asking you know can I take in compassion for myself do I allow that into myself just it's it and the piece of the puzzle is always your reactive piece right so you're breathing into it you're rubbing the point if it's tender you're you know that there's a blockage in the meridian you know that you're not receiving the kindness for yourself or giving yourself the compassion to yourself and it's more of each you know you can pull up a meridian to look at different points for yourself but it's a very interesting thing is when I'm working with people and I just just a little tap and the reality is is those little taps can open places in us all we do is is we put the thought and we switch it because it's not that we sit and think I'm unkind to myself I'm not compassionate you don't sit and do that but it's the things we do to ourselves right and those are the things that are not coming those are the things that are not compassionate to ourselves so doing something nice for yourself every day even if it's just to rub that little point to give yourself some kindness so as you could see each one of the elements has a variety of points on the the physical body the lung and large intestine is the meridian just like the spleen in the stomach is in the earth and in the large intestine in the stomach it's an interesting one the metal because it's the place that we take in life when we breathe life in that's our lung and when we can take in the pure cheese from the heavens we actually can take our whole suffering and this one is a little sticky because think we breathe fully right how often do we stop to truly take in a full breath so breath work in this but it's also lung pathology when people have issues with bronchitis or yearly sniffles or they have that certain cough that we can't get rid of in the season the emotional content with this is that the stuckness in it like the beautiful little girl it was grief it was the loss of her grandfather and so she had asthma and she also had skin pathology and this is fortified on the skin and the hair so when you realize it's almost like a puzzle like a connecting of the dots and the dots all work and the interesting thing is this is five thousand year old medicine this is not something I you know came up with because I did this this and this in this workshop this has been around for centuries and the reality is is they truly do connect the dots like I couldn't make the stuff up and the stability in that girl and the process of grief is a normal process right we take a year with anniversaries when we have a loss and if you go back and just for me telling you when I was on that table when Billy had died and I was gifted a healer I could not stop crying this opens with tears this opens with crying this element so you realize tears are a gift on so many different levels but we sometimes stop them and when you think about how we stop them we stop our breath we I'm good I'm not all good I'm good you know and the reality is we're not good and we don't let the flow of energy through our system so again it brings the whole thing back that's why I bring that and leave those so you can see the charts but it really is an interconnected of all of them so if your earth element as that girl's community for family was off look where the metal element comes in it directly correlates right and the fire her heart when a burst open it's all in a generating cycle so our body generates she generates the opening if we allow our breath to say get down into our toes like all the way in then are taking in the pure chief from the heavens opens our lungs if we can truly inhale and exhale and part of this system I say this and I slow down because breathwork has a variety of options out there but one of the you know the Navy SEALs from that goes out into do their missions they do breathwork before every single mission and if you take in just do this three breaths hands on your lap like your body is gonna be planted in the earth and we breathe in their melts open breathe out breathe in again this time just feel your stomach come up because you want to get into your pelvis right you want to get into your whole breath blow out three breaths is what it takes to relax your system and it truly just switches your body and so I tell people even if you just got out of bed in the morning put your feet on the ground and you did nothing but this feet planted on the earth and take three breaths and feel yourself on your feel your feet fully planted down because that connection after a while when you start to breathe say your spirit into form into your physical form that's the nature of truly what the elements bring it's bringing us into our spirit bringing our spirit home into the physical our temple our body is the house that you know is the house of Chen as they say it's the house of spirit but we're so blocked that we don't bring it all the way in we don't bring it all the way home so when people are oh my god I'm freezing oh my toes never get warm I you know and this is all okay right you could have thyroid disease it could be blocked here you could have so there's so many different aspects to this and it doesn't make it bad or good it's just more of like huh okay that's a message maybe I should start breathing in this area or look at the point system that goes to it so it's it is like a little detective thing but it's kind of I find it fascinating but I also find fun so one of the hardest lessons in life is letting go and whether it's guilt anger love lost or betrayal changes isn't easy but a lot of times we fight to hold on and we fight to let go and if you think about this as an energetic component when we hold on to anything and there's a grasp in it there's no movement of energy and I bring this up again over and over again because if we can't receive fully right we're locked off in some area the energy does not move full fully through our system and it's the same thing when we hold on to the past it's the exact same thing how can you breathe in life when this is not open so hence but my little tea kettle analogy is I have people start to play with what am I still hanging on to and if it feels odd to you I would say that there's some type of disconnector I would say maybe a distortion or maybe a memory or maybe something from the past you're still hanging on to until you can open your hands wide and full and be free it's really about a system that lives in a closed way and as you can tell the body doesn't do what with systems that close themselves off and hence that's where illness starts so the water element is a fascinating element in and of itself because it's our true life force energy and it also is deep in our bones and in our teeth so issues with bones and teeth as well as the kidney and the bladder and the interesting thing is right up off of our kidneys is our adrenal system and in the back part of us our adrenals can get tired and so people have heard of adrenal fatigue people get sick they're even compromised in the element of water the kidney and the bladder they are our true pumping agent that helps filter out our blood and take the impurities from our body so if it doesn't work well those things get stuck in our system and so adrenal fatigue and in and in the part of the water system that say runs like this it's as if it gets so much stimulation we get anxious and so anxiety and fear a part of this water element and most of the time the kidneys have blockage it's like it's frozen right the water is frozen in our system and it doesn't allow our energy to run free so that constant stimulation a hum that a lot of people go around with right it's a low level anxiety in the system and the problem with this is that those hormones that get pumped out into our system they cause disease and they cause illness so part of this I give I try to give a bunch of different flavors in it but you can see if there's no calm or peace in our system right just taking in the breath just putting yourself here on the earth I am calm I am relaxed it's almost as if your thought patterns and your system have to be retrained they have to learn what it is to calm learn what it is to come into a peaceful and balanced system and so in the water the piece of this is also the reflective piece like when we look at the water sometimes it has shadows for us to look at and those shadows are parts of our system that we had no idea what was going on you know when you get something from the past and you're like oh my god I never even thought of that that's like a shadow piece and so in the water it has a lot to do with our ancestry has a lot to do with our really the past of what we brought forward from them but it also is our learning and teaching so there's a wisdom to it when we say love what we do in life we end up sharing the wisdom to others because it's an effortless flow we don't hold on to it we want to involve we want to help people or assist people and whatever it is whether it's creating clean water bringing you know a light system into a house so you don't have to use electricity as much like there's so many different ways that where we learn teach but the interesting thing is this opens with groaning and if you break a bone you've grown fairly loud and so it's an interesting system because it's a way when the opening parts of these that's how we open the meridians and so it's it's almost like humorous in some parts but I do work with people on the land and when I'm doing work with the anxiety and fear of people and all I do is start rubbing the adrenal system and the kidney system and have them start groaning when they're fully earthed in and they're really grounded and the enormity of what get released in their system usually brings them to tears the anxiety goes but the tears come up because in most of the system in the elements there's usually a sadness behind each one of the elements and it's almost because we don't understand what the emotional content is of this hum saying the water system but what's behind it is a sadness that we probably never felt and so sometimes the ancient stuff or the older things when we find our childhood stuff come up we can let it go easily if we don't hold on to it but so ships don't sink because of the water around them ships sink because of the water that gets in them so it's don't let what's happening around you get inside you and lay down and the fear really Joseph came will bring that home the cave you fear to enter may hold the treasure you see and I say that because the fear and anxiety a lot of times the energy that it takes to hold that in place is a lot larger energy than it is to dissipate it and so sometimes it's really getting in touch with it and I've been around enough people and through the book I write cases in it so I actually share cases of different ways to work with each of the elements but also share cases so you can put yourself in the book so you make the understanding or you put your say illness or part of your physical body and emotionally you are so the wood you can't let go of our anger or our resentment this is in the wood so wood is in the liver and the gallbladder and so in Chinese medicine they believe that anger is stored in the liver and so there could be fatty liver there could be a liver disease complex gallstones many different things but the interesting thing with this is it's your detoxification pathways so if you think about this if you're not open right you can't detoxify your system if you put in things that stop that flow then we start to have issues with say maybe a little bit of anger maybe a little bit of frustration maybe things we can't let go and the interesting thing with wood is the ligaments and the tendons are the things that we run with right we create motion with they work well and this opens with motion the element of not opens but it's the element of motion so it helps to move the body and it helps to keep the elements all moving just as much as the fluid in your system but this opens with shouting and it's an interesting thing because just the way climate is now politically there's a lot of say anger underneath I would say a little bit of a shouting thing going on and the reality is is that we can't really get to tolerance or forgiveness if you're running that type of energy on a continual pattern and you can see where the imbalance is because majority of the time there's a stiffness in the body wood is very flexible and the spine the that what the ligaments hold our vertebral bodies in and so the element of wood is really motion so when you can move and you have a flexibility with yoga but you have movement in the body internally and externally you don't hold things as much like you know I hate to say this but like let's just do a comparison just because of his body type because you can really see this but like Barack Obama was very flexible and fluid and you know this isn't me judging anyone it's just noticing a body type and he was very like a fluid guy and you could tell his anger probably wasn't his element that was out of balance like it didn't look that way right and so when you start to look at people you start to realize their body structures and the way they hold themselves are very much in line with the elements when someone has anxiety you can feel that you can feel that hum in their system sometimes when you sit down right you sit down and that person feels like they're pretty anxious like you can start to feel it just as much as you can start to feel someone that's depressed right the heaviness of the system so all of this I've been doing for such a long time that I do have that felt sense of people but I always think that the body types share a lot about different things and we realize that holding on to anger is like grasping a hot cold we have the intent of throwing it at someone else and honestly you were the one that gets burnt not the other person there's no real you know that doesn't ever solve anything and the other is the more angler you hold in your heart who has passed the less capable you truly are loving and present and you know there's no other way to say that nicely but that's I think there's so much truth in that in wisdom and and you know with the wood to get on the other side of that is truly to find forgiveness and when we can truly find forgiveness we can truly be at peace in our system and so the fire is the heart it's the meridians of the heart small intestine the triple warmer which is the largest organs of the body and it's also the sex circulation so you can see the emotions can be hysteria over stimulation it also can be eight and the other opposite of that is love joy and content in mind and so I bring in this I could bring in a bunch of different cases in it but I'll just share I told you that I lost everything in the fires in Glen Ellen and the interesting thing was it wasn't my first fire it was my second fire the first fire was my family home and they were selling to a South African family from South Africa we had different skin color than the whole neighborhood I lived in and so there was an element of hate in this and fire as I told you has an open opposite balance and so the second fire is what brought me to really look at like wow I need to clear something out of my lineage out of my closet that I have yet to clear and so this really brought me to a deeper level of what the meaning of the elements really meant and truly we can take this as far as we want to take it you know and laughter opens the heart laughter opens the fire element and when you think about when you have a great joke and someone really makes you laugh like you've been laughing you know there's no mind-boggling there's no I gotta go in five minutes right you're in the moment it's just so the energy that opens all the vascular system in the heart is truly laughter so I remember years and years ago the region's digest had a little thing about laughter is the best medicine and you know I never forgot that because truly it is the best medicine it opens all your vascular system it's the best thing to open all your routines and really the most effective medicine here in the heart is love in love that is unconditional and I would say that's one of the most hardest things for all of us in our love of ourselves that has no conditions in it because when we can truly find that for ourselves we can truly find that for others and the task is really not to seek for love but the means seek and find all the barriers within yourself that we built against us Rumi is my man of my quotes which I truly love and the trueness of coming home to our heart coming home fully is that we really remember the truth of who we really are we can be still with that we can be quiet with ourselves our heart beats effortlessly with no overstimulation no need for stimulation because we're at home in ourselves so we carry inside us the wonders we seek outside us so when we start to look inward and find that true reflection within ourselves that's how we find our way home and so I ended up after that writing this what color is your medicine and really is entering the depths of your heart with the five elements of chinese medicine and this gave you a depiction of how I work with them but it also shows through the book it gives you cases and understandings of it and in the back it gives you recommendations in that sheet that I gave you here there's a more in-depth one with true meanings and understandings of the chart in and of itself as well as a worksheet because life is a process and it's never ending and so I always tell people the worksheet is not about a one day I fill out a form it's a lifetime and so the book at this moment is really that's how it's being received it's being moved over and over again and it's just taking it in as you can digest one element at a time so I will stop there and ask you if you have any questions I have a hard time finding the chart so in what way well you know when you have like the liver pointing to the spleen or wood going to the earth because I've never seen that function so in the traditional Chinese medicine they have what they call generating cycle and then they have an opposing cycle and so I don't go into the depths of the opposing cycles I use it more as a tool for you to do it as the generating cycle okay because so it's really the following yeah and then my intent is the path of least resistance we take in the most if we have to get stuck on concepts we lose our way and the interesting thing is the reviews thus far has been oh you've simplified Chinese medicine and I truly I don't I completely honor traditional Chinese medicine in this tradition but I do not take and I do not say that I'm well versed in the way I'm versed in it is an experiential and the beautiful thing is I ended up someone asked me to do a workshop with the Chinese medicine person and at first I was a little intimidated and I said you know I'll share with you what I do and she shared with me and she's well versed in herbs and pulses and the whole thing so we came together and I said I'm really good at the experiential process of each one of these elements and I'm really good at the emotional and the physical construct from the western medicine thing and she said I'm really good with all the other stuff so there's 45 women in a group and I did the experiential process and she did a lecture of the house of Shen of bringing your heart home your spirit home to the body and it was the most beautiful thing finished everybody gave feedback we were outside she looked at me and she said I couldn't have never done what you just did and I said I could have never done what you just did and the beautiful thing was the poem that's the end of the book I wrote right after she did her lecture my heart came into my shin and I had never come so it's I I say this because each one of us has a gift each one of us brings to the table our gift and how we have makeshifted it and how we have molded it but really in the light of service this is how I bring it forward and so you'll understand in the book what the understanding of the the cycle of generation and I bring in the opposing I teach do little teaching of the elements themselves but the reflection of the natural world and how we see ourselves in it is really the tool that I use and so the earth as an element in of itself the water has an element in and of itself like I use the reflection more like I use water as a tool so each of the elements I use as an elemental way whereas in in the Chinese tradition they use it more for their points in it where they put their needles and yeah so that's the yeah I don't know okay now you're here okay yeah a lot of different ways to look at things in life right and that's the way I just chose so when I bring the teachings and I encapsulate them the elements themselves your self-discovery self compassion self care metam you learn to let go so you can breathe easily bottom line right water will find every inner piece in the midst of chaos and that chaos is internally the wood we align our inner strength it brings a direction and a focus when you think about what we shared about the liver and the detoxification pathways and if they're clogged and in wood vision is part of wood it is cloudy it is not clear in focus in the fire when we ignite that internal flame that's when our soul and our heart is truly set on fire so that is really in its balanced state that's how I bring the elements in more of an inspiring journey that's me so it has become apparent but our truest nature to fully connect heal and grow is to be married by something that reflects our full essence and I truly believe the natural world is that ideal mirror yeah question yeah do you look at western medicine totally different from how you viewed it before now that you know what you know now yeah you know I I respect it on every level in the aspect of it because I would not be who I am as a practitioner today if I did not know western medicine and the balance or the imbalance I would say in western medicine is that we don't speak to these concepts in a way that you know when the little girl comes into the room it's about let me refill your prescription let me give you a cream you're going to be okay make sure you're in counseling and the reality was that girl lost her grandfather you know six years prior nobody was going to be rehashing that and the reality is is sometimes it just takes to go back in the moment of when you started using something that's the switch that gets you into the puzzle and so I've learned over and over again hey when did you start being afraid of that when did that anxiety come in when did you start having that sadness wow let's go back in time what what happened and it's truly it's not about being a therapist in the room it's not about it's just having them connect the doll and because you can then open up the pathway in wow why don't we just try this thing why don't we just breathe into here why don't do this let's see what you feel like and notoriously most people are brought to tears in some way shape or form is a way for them to open and once that opening happens it's almost like the tea kettle comes back into a balance that it just didn't have and you know I think it's because my own life and I've been through a variety of different storms let's say that and each one has brought me into more of really tuning in and looking at the messages but it was really just waste for me to wake up because western medicine is amazing but it lacks certain things that don't bring in that avenue in and it doesn't take that much time I had a physician a family physician asked me when are you going to go and teach this when are you going to go and teach us some ed schools like why aren't you teaching them and I said I have to get it out first and then we'll see doctor said she worked with but Franon you no they send all the integrative people to me and they say I can't do what she does but go to her okay so I have another I have enormous respect I had a physician read the book and he said I can't do what you do I just can't do that I can't go there with Gina and I said you know what Dr. W I have the most utmost respect for you for understanding that and acknowledging it and I would be happy to see your patients and see this avenue if this is the way you want to go I said please make up a flyer and I'll tell them about your book and so it's I don't have any attachment to any of us I have the only the only intent that I have is that I just want to help people to be able to understand their bodies in a way that they truly can look at it to take care of it in a way that has a little bit of a different thing than just taking a pill and I know how to do that and people know how to take pills they're really good at it but there's other ways that doesn't take that much effort and that much time and you know I could I could tell you case upon case upon case with young adolescents smoking dope for anxiety and God bless him and I did a few little things with him outside in nature and he looked right at me and goes I mean that's all I have to do I said just tell me how you feel at this moment because I felt great everyone's the last time I smoked weed last night I said you know let's try no weed tomorrow and it just was like let's just let's just put it out there you know it doesn't take it's it's not a lot of effort yeah anybody else okay well thank you all for coming out on this great evening