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Michael Collins demos when quality matters and voiceover extra your daily resource for VO success and Now live to drive from their super secret clubhouse and studio in Sherman Oaks, California Here are the guys Hi and welcome to Tiki bar nice nice, uh, what do you call it dissolve it? Yeah, really? That's notice that why do we it's the first time we've done that it's usually just like tight cut now It's like we kind of work there. Yes ever watch Tiki bar. Yeah, Tiki bar. Is that still on I? Don't know if they still doing I don't know but but the guy would wear A fence and I think because of that Leo Laporte started doing the fez thing So you go to the studio where they tape twit, right? He'll always have you sit down with a fez on take a picture. Yeah, I like I've always wanted a fez I don't know why I never wanted to be a schweiner. Hey, is that thing felt? Yeah, it is. No. Yeah, of course All right, it's so old. It's on social security anyhow We're here to answer your technological questions about your home voiceover studio because that's what George and I do and We got lots of cool stuff to talk about lots of interesting topics a couple of questions If you have a question about your home voiceover studio or something related to that Said it it sent it to it right now. Send us to it Send it to us right now. You can tell I talked for a living. Hmm send it to us right now at our chat room and We'll get to that question Vovs.tv or the Facebook chat one works either one because we're watching both Unless we're dying of consumption in the process. Can we start over? No, we're doing fine. We're doing great This is no different from any other week. Oh my god. We've been off for a couple of weeks. You got to get Anyway, so what's in your tech update this week a bunch of stuff Well, actually what a client of mine came to me send me an email saying I'm having a hard time reaching minus 20 DB RMS with my voiceover tracks. I have a do they understand what that means? Yeah, in her case. Yeah, I think she does but I mean how often does it happen as a voice actor how often do you have a client specify? We want your files to be delivered with an RMS of minus 20 or minus 19. Is that ever happen? I'm not talking about audio books. Just and you know, well, I mean, that's a unique thing I mean clearly there are some companies. I mean, you know, I'm under contract with Pandora and they Send me stuff and that's clearly what that what's in there. They have guidelines like yeah, it's got to be this It's got to be that you know and 20 you know minus 20 RMS is it's part of that Do you do and I also happen to know that these companies say no processing, right? Right. So so this is what I usually say my understanding I I thought not being a voice actor that you would need some kind of compression To be able to get to to game to maintain Minus 20 DB RMS with your voice with a peak of say minus three. I think with some people it might be necessary You know, you know, I came out of radio and we sat there and ride the levels If you know what the proper level is and you're set properly to start with yeah, it's not an issue Do you ever ride level? You never ride right ride line I you know, I just control your dynamics. I just control my dynamics Yeah, my technique because remember my technique is really really important. Yeah, and you know, you're your proximity to the mic You know, how much you're projecting if at all because you really should really should not be projecting unless you're doing You know promo work or a loud commercial or something like that, you know, you know, come down the Lancaster National Dragway Yeah, you're yelling it over a PA or are you talking to somebody one-on-one exactly exactly so Getting the proper the proper Modulation is not hard if you know when it's supposed to be set at and you know, I've got several different settings on my interface It's like okay. I'm gonna be louder for the swimming. Yeah, a little louder You should quieter for this and it's it's a combination of my proximity and years of experience I think experience is a big thing like because when you when I what when I watch a voice track of a newer Fresher voice actor who's just learning it's very common where you'll see the beginning of the phrase much louder And the waveform will start over the big spike And then you'll watch it kind of dwindle down and then at the end it cause of Like that's at the beginning of each sentence or a phrase. That's yes So you'll see that he is to stay consistent across the board Yeah, and you do that from here and here not from right Yeah, and you're not happening, you know, I or an engineer writing. Yeah I mean we certainly use compression and limiting and things in production to get something to be at a certain volume or fit with other material But in general, you shouldn't I guess we shouldn't have to do that to get to achieve those levels it takes practice and You know, so I I've never had any complaints from clients and say that's the requirement It's like I said them what I usually do. Yeah now some people talk about normalizing If you're a little hot you normalize bring it down to right the tolerable level and everything comes down right your RMS comes down to right But if you record properly up front, yeah, and you hit normalize shouldn't do anything Yeah, it should very little right maybe just a little it should only be a hefty be at most anyway, not much Makes it cool. Yeah. No makes sense. Well, I got to participate. Yeah Have you have is it having any of your clients ever brought up lofts? Lofts That's not what it's really not it's a term. That's definitely very well known in broadcast engineering Right music production and mixing but voice over it's not really touched the voice over I find it interesting because what loves is is loudness units full scale and it's a it's a substitute or replacement really for RMS Most good software twisted wave No be audition when you do an analyze or whatever check the stats on your file It's gonna give you a number that says loves and it's almost always a little bit under RMS. It's very similar I mean, it's really close right and what I understand is loudness units What it does is it takes in account? The frequency content of what's in it as well because low frequency has more energy So it's gonna sound louder than high frequency and stuff So it's just not it's it's another way of measuring average volume is basically what it is and someday will probably all be paying attention to it But right now we still really are not it seems seems to me I wonder if it's because a lot of people who are new at a recording and you know, and they're good voice actors They're talented people and they're sending out stuff and perhaps they get hired to do a certain job and a client I'd say well the dynamics are all wrong because this person doesn't really understand what's going on Yeah, and that's why they've added in all of these different parameters, you know, you don't understand it It's like yeah, that's what the internet is. Well, it's one of our show, of course Yeah, it's one thing to pump out a number. It's nothing to know. Well now. What do I do now? I see that's that now what I how do I fix it? That's what we're here for But yeah loves I think you're gonna see it more it really is something it's more in the domain of the producers When they send a file out to the to YouTube or Facebook for an ad or for broadcast They have very specific specs. They have to achieve it and it depends on what it is. I understand that for television broadcast It's actually pretty low. It's like minus 24 for that stuff and audio books It's between minus 23 and minus 18 might be why I can't hear anything when I'm watching TV Exactly. What did he say? In terms of gear a couple interesting things have popped up. Well, we Know we covered IK Multimedia at NAMM and they have these little tiny speakers Well, I got an opportunity to set those up for somebody and put them in a studio and holy cow Those things are pretty freakin awesome. I mean, I love them because they're really small, right? So if you have a very cramped workspace They are honestly not really any bigger than a glass like if you can fit this on each side of your monitor You can fit a pair that you know one of these on each side. They're about this big each So you'd think being really tiny they you would confuse them for computer speakers, right? Which are thin and tinny and not no these things are unbelievable. They have they can they have they have were to drive full range response. I mean Music has reproduced the full. I was listening to everything on these I was in this in this studio for quite a while. I was playing all kinds of stuff reggae Whatever it was you could hear the full range the bass lines the kick drum Really amazing I know not relevant for voiceover, but what I'm saying is these things can reproduce the full range of sound pretty much that you care about in a very small size right pretty darn accurately and They're not crazy expensive. They're not cheap. Yes, there are cheaper options out there, but for about $300 a pair They're pretty reasonable for for what they can do 150 each. I mean, that's what you're gonna pay for Regular pair of studio monitors anyway, pretty much. Yeah, I mean these are these are a dedicated system That you cannot separate them like the ones you have each one as an amp speaker These are a system that work together But it's four amplifiers So there's one little speaker has four amps one for the tweeter one for the woofer and then it runs over to the other one Tweeter woofer. It's it's amazing. They're a package So anyway, if you're looking for something really small in a small space, these are pretty awesome In a totally different direction I'm always looking at stuff that's like way off the radar voiceover just to see if there's something that nobody has seen yet that could possibly change the paradigm voiceover and Maybe this isn't happening. This may not be it This company Antlion I've known about them for quite a while They make this thing called the mod mic and their their ideas. They're really kind of targeting gamers More gamers than there are voice actors a lot more and gamers are obsessed with the quality of their headphones The comfort of the headphone they wear them for hours and hours and hours So some of them are just like, you know, there's a million headphones with microphone booms that come on them But they went their headphones and then so these guys they made a wired version That was okay, but it depended a lot on the input you're plugging it into like, you know If you're plugging to the computer did preamp work did it sound good blah blah blah so what they came out with was One that has its own preamp that also happens to be wireless and it's called the the mod mic wireless and I think I paid 109 for it $109 because I wanted to give this thing a try and what's interesting is a few things One is the way it attaches. So yes, you do have to have a headphone on So this is a maybe a thing that might not work for a lot of you because One you have to have a headphone because you have to have somewhere to put it right and to it does not have zero latency monitoring So if you're gonna have a headphone on you're probably gonna want to have it on maybe like one year return the volume Yeah, and then this has a super strong magnet with a little little stick-on disc that goes on the headphone and then the little boom arm Attaches to that and then that attaches to the headset So now you have a now you have a head microphone you can attach to any headset. Okay, let's not that's okay big That's cool. The thing is the sound quality is Stoundingly good for what this thing is it doesn't make sense that it should sound as good as it sounds the the noise floor Is really quite low It's a denser mic. It's a condensed. It's it's a money. You know, it's a tiny little electric microphone It actually has two capsules inside the head There's an omni and a cardioid and you can flick a switch and choose which one works better for you right on there So that's probably the omni that little dot and then the bigger ones the cardioid And I'll make sure you guys can get a sample of the audio somehow I'll probably get to do a review on my George the tech YouTube channel and really kind of delve into it But okay use case. I'm seeing this as Working Getting auditions out on the road. Okay, you had this you have its little dedicated receiver And yes, you do have to have this it may be Bluetooth between the two, but it's using its own special Audio codec. It's called aptx that this is a reason why this thing's one of the reasons it sounds so good And your car and yeah, you will you plug this thing does have to plug into a computer of some kind So we can go into an adapter into a smartphone or it goes into your laptop But now you have a recording system that sounds reasonably good Definitely good enough for most auditioning. I would say for sure good enough for audiobooks from my little bit of testing I've done So if you want an alternative way to work where you can feel a little less constrained If you want to feel untethered doing an audiobook where you can just have on Something that you can wear right? I hope they come out with like a headband for this So you can wear it without headphones. Maybe maybe you have maybe maybe you Maybe you can have this attached to your skull somehow this little magnet. Yeah, there you go I don't know whatever it's kind of an interesting thing. I just got it I've only barely tested it But the sound quality was astonishingly good for what it is and it's just an interesting Alternate take on this whole thing. I mean, I did a review a while ago on headphone headset mics, right? Only the $2,500 one sounded good. Yeah, the DPN one. Yeah, it was a DPA was really good That was like $800 and then it was one of them chefs. That was like $2,400 This thing sounds really darn close to that and what's the price point on it at $9. There you go The technology is really trickling down. So if you want to try something different Throw it in your bag throw it in your travel kit, you know and because the mic is like right here Yeah, it rejects a lot more background noise and it works pretty well no blows it and really yeah I mean don't do what people think you're supposed to do which is put it in front of your mouth No, that's a it pops like mad. You just stretch it out right alongside your mouth there And it sounds really good sounds really good. Anyway, that's the the mod mic wireless one more thing The Dropbox how many of you use Dropbox everybody right hands go up man. I was part of that company They so if you have a Dropbox account where you pay $10 a month They doubled your drive space by now you've probably got some kind of a notification That you've now got two terabytes of space. That's cool And helpful the problem with having massive amounts of drive space on Dropbox is what if your hard drive isn't that big? And if you have a laptop almost nobody has a hard drive more than a terabyte most people's are half that size mine's only 256 gig right, so it's a pain in the neck You guys have heard me talk about something called oDrive I've used it as a way to manage that but finally the Dropbox new the new Dropbox synchronizing tool you can tell it to unsync Files that you've already that you're finished with so you can say I think it's based on time Or maybe size or both right it will just start unsyncing files off your computer removing them So what does that mean? I would still have a local backup. I'd still have a time machine I'd still have like a dupe of everything because once it then un Unsyncs it off your computer if something happens to it on the Dropbox and it's gone, right? That's super unlikely, but still you know you if it's really important to you have or you have a local copy But it it lets you have a huge Dropbox and have a really small hard drive, you know like a 256 drive So drives my wife crazy. It drives everybody crazy like it took up my entire computer Yeah, I mean we will buy a new computer a brand new Mac right with a half a terabyte right and they'll get much It's already full. I'm like, well you got Dropbox. So anyway, here's a fix for that Thanks to Dropbox for fixing that probably two terabytes and it's like whoa where'd that come from? Shut up everything I ever knew on there. Yeah, so there you go. 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All right, and we're back here on voiceover body shop tech talk number 12 and You know George and I spend a great deal of time in other people's closets Yeah And various other places that's for voiceover boosts is born That's right because usually a closet is like the best place you can be yeah Yeah, I mean you can spend thousands and thousands of dollars on an isolation boot like if you're in the landing path of LaGuardia or lax or O'Hare or something like that depending on where you live San Fernando Valley Yeah, where you were like between two airports here between Burbank and Van Nuys and it's like Yeah, keep amazing that they don't like hide each other I figure someone's talking to somebody and like don't take off because this guy's going this is some guy that does that that's right But what we do is we help you with their home voiceover studio. It's what we do professionally And we can come to where you are if you're in the greater Los Angeles area George likes to travel and he sees people in their studios in very bring Georgia. Yeah, all right George Anyway, if you would like help with your home studio, if you'd like to learn it from the ground up one watch the show Truly, yeah, I mean nobody talks about this stuff so much in the archives. It's insane There's a lot of advice out there from on on Facebook and some of the other you know forums and stuff like that from people who are Experts at one studio their own with their own voice Beware of tech support by committee do not crowdsource your home is it is it is not saying it's always wrong But it's so I You know how you can just post gifts about anything now you just search and my favorite one is popcorn And you just post a picture and it's Michael Jackson in like the thriller video Where he's sitting and watching the movie and eating popcorn Any time there's a conversation that goes on and on literally like what's the best microphone for voiceover came up the other day And I just posted that gift because it's just like let's see what they're talking about now And someone's like aren't you gonna chime in and I'm like no I am not chiming in on this question The reason it's like you guys have Must not post that's what exist anyway But if you want the right information you got to talk to the guys that actually have built Literally several thousand studios. Yeah, every one of them is completely unique because each one of your voices is unique And and your spaces and your new years and your budgets all those things are different So it's got to be custom thought out for you in particular So talk to the guys that know how to do it George knows how to do it if you want to talk to him Where do they go you go to George the tech comm or George the tech and that's where you can find all my services You can book me online there through my scheduler or you can send files in and I send you back the results based on the types Of projects we're doing and there's that new thing. I mentioned a minute ago bring George out Which is a way you can bring me to your cities and other parts of the world and flyover states And it's a way to bring me in a more affordable way sharing it with your community the cost It's a George co-op. It's a group buy or a mass drop George's drop. They just drop you out of a helicopter I'm here. How about you Dan? I find you they can find me at home voiceover studio com and Talk about what you know what it takes to build your home studio and how I can help you out Whether I can come to your place personally or work with you over zoom or Skype Does anyone actually use Skype anymore? Not what I can avoid it. Yeah, really So but I we can like take control of your screen All sorts of stuff we can do to make sure that you're sounding the way You're supposed to sound and that is like you because the idea of a home studio is not to make you sound great Because if you're a good voice actor you already sound great The idea of your home voiceover studio is to make you sound like you as you exist and that's what we do and If you want to have your audio analyzed you can go to my home page at home voiceover studio comm and click on the specimen collection cup and Takes you to a drop box where I can listen to your audio and we can discuss whether it needs help We're not in which case we can further the conversation Well, we have a couple of questions tonight from our massive audience out there starting with our good friend Gerard McGuire who talks about something that You know, I guess if you're a PC person and don't use Adobe audition What's his question? Yeah, well, I he's asking about Different types of noise reduction tools or noise de-noisers, right? Rx7 but it's not a car by the way people are very familiar with the Then voice de-noiser and things like that in rx7 and then the Bruce free What's the difference? The rx7 package has like a huge variety of different tools, you know, then and it can be kind of overwhelming They have too many so many variations. There's voice to noise and Spectral de-noiser and it's kind of overwhelming Bruce free. I think I like about it is its simplicity Like you basically listen to the noise and then it removes it Those of you familiar with Audacity that's something it's been in audacity forever But the Bruce free one works really really well like it just with one like Two-second sound sample it removes the noise very seamlessly and it does it without a lot of artifacts Right, you know the sound of de-noising or noise you just know what that sounds like right because you've heard it The way the way Bruce free does it. It's kind of like magic. It doesn't make that kind of same Swishy washy sounding noise reduction that some of the other ones do If you really want to hear them in a sort of a more of a comparative thing or a shootout This other thing I do. It's called the pro audio suite Pro audio sweet calm. I think it's it's a podcast. We actually did like a shootout We actually compared the way these things work on different noises So I would recommend you give that a try just give it a listen and see you But I was really impressed with the Bruce free. It's not expensive. It's like $50. Yeah Personally my philosophy is if you have to use it yet Most of these tools were never really designed for voiceover in mind They were designed by engineers who are like I hear somebody who's doing like an interview out on a battlefield or in a noisy environment And you've got to save the interview or you know, it's for a major film production, right for dry voiceover It really is far more dependent on getting your environment right So you have to do as little as possible And I find a lot of people are becoming very dependent on these tools and not necessarily knowing one how they work Which is pretty important and then how to make it work Yeah, and and neither of these tools even though RX has a div D reverb function Mm-hmm. I've messed with it a bunch of times. It doesn't it's not magic. It doesn't really It doesn't really work. So if you're in a too live of a space You're stuck with it, you know, you get that's get the noise down and then get rid of the reflection the echo Those are your two biggest jobs in getting a home studio working. The magic is physics. Yeah, not electronics. Yeah All right, this one could be a long one. Okay Everybody sits if I can relax being that I have this piece of gear that should help I'll speed through it as much as best I can because this is about a specific piece of gear It's about the roadcaster um Ron Montgomery asks Georgia listen to your roadcaster pro on the pro audio suite podcast. Oh, thank you. Well, there you go Here are my questions one would you recommend the roadcaster for Vio? Yes with an asterisk It's sound quality is definitely good enough for voiceover It's far more complicated and you could possibly need it's got four mic inputs Four headphone outputs all sorts of processing It has a lot of bells and whistles you don't need It does have one cool feature that you may like to have and that has internal recording You can stick a micro SD in there It has this giant record button and if you're sitting down for like a long audio book session Or you're being directed on the phone for an hour for a net and two hour narration session Mm-hmm being able to punch a record button on there as a backup is pretty cool So that it that is kind of a cool feature. It's not the only thing out there that can do it But it does it in a really elegant way. It's simple to use. So there's it there you go I it's a good. It's got a good interface. It's made by it's made by road There they've come up with a good preamp. It sounds good Are the preamps good enough to use I kind of answered that already. Yes for sure I would say for sure Three would this work well as an interface when doing source connector IPTL I can say uncategorically yes Because I use it when I'm doing the pro audio suite now and we use source connect to do that show Mm-hmm. It works beautifully with totally seamless. It's totally seamless. It works beautifully It has a mix minus built-in So you don't have looping echoes and all that kind of stuff. It works great With the TRRS output Is it good enough to send to a second computer for source connector IPTL or would that reduce the load for the recording computer? Yeah, it's good enough. I haven't found a need to do that. I'm using a 2011 Mac mini 2011 eight-year-old Mac mini and I do you know, I'm recording the show multi-track I'm doing all these things source connect all the same time. It's like a Subaru and it yeah, it's fine I do not have any issues at all. It it handles all of it beautifully So I haven't had a need to connect to anything else to the TRRS connection. That's like a little mini jack That's the kind of thing that smartphones use So anyway, yeah, it's it's cool. It's not that expensive. It looks really awesome when your desk It has a bunch of buttons to play noises and sound effects You know, it's a waste with a time waster But it could also be a cool tool for production if you're doing that kind of thing, right? But it's designed for podcast podcasting podcasting that's casting. That's what I mean That's what it was the road was it was at the Podcast convention. I was at a Philadelphia summer. Yeah, all like my god. Look at all these people. Yeah, and there I'm sure that yeah, they're like we got to create a device for this group because it's far more podcasters And there are voice actors. Yeah, believe it or don't just do a search. Yeah and It's a great tool for doing podcasts. Yep But if you do podcasts and you do voiceover, it might be a really nice unit to have If you're looking excuse to spend 600 bucks, you know, so for it somebody asked me this week They were talking about a you know, something that will give them a lot of mobility and they said zoom or a mixer face Oh, like in terms of portable recording record recordings. Okay, which one do you go for I and I and I basically said well The zoom is very portable, but the mixer face was designed specifically for doing that Yeah, I mean the mixer face has the really high quality preamp in it Definitely even better than what's in zoom zoom ain't bad, but the one in the mixer face is really good it's Got physical knobs, so it's really to the control They do have a zoom do they have a mixer face with a built-in memory card recorder, right? It's the upgraded version of zoom does but yeah The zoom has way more bells and whistles like it's way more going on under the hood But that'll also get you in trouble, right? It's more complicated to operate because you've got to like all right. Where's the menu? Yeah, it's kind of nutty what it can do So they're very different animals, but I would lean towards mixer face for what it is that we do right as voiceover people Or the or the new thing the mic the mic port pro 2 right which we definitely need to get a review unit because this thing's got some cool Really cool features right built in Yeah, the mic port pro 2 for sure Absolutely that thing out. All righty. Well if you've got a question for us All you got to do is send it to us at the guys at Vo BS dot TV. That's right We like getting them. 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Imagine mandatory retirement at age 57 and Jay Rodney Turner wasted no time when he got that news He decided what the next act in life was going to be for him voiceover and Fortunately for him he chose the one form of acting voice acting for which the demand far exceeds the number of available performers audio book narration He worked hard and smart and Jay Rodney Turner's name is now on the cover of over 100 of those audiobooks for sale right now on audible which he produced in just the last four years or so Want to know a secret here it is for free David H. Lawrence the 17th has just released the first episode of a free video training series devoted to audiobooks and it tells just how Jay Rodney Turner did it in vivid detail visit vo2gogo.com forward slash Vobs to see it if the idea of getting paid to tell stories appeals to you or if you're already doing audio books But aren't having the success you know you're capable of achieving this video is a must-see Check out the video here visit Vo2gogo.com forward slash vobs that's vo2gogo.com forward slash Vobs Hey guys, this is Tom also known as the voice of Spongebob Squarepants And you want to fill your ear holes and your eye holes with Dan and George and the audio body shop Meow snail Well, we've come to the end of another tech talk yes, we have but It's so much fun doing it with you because you know We we have so much in common when it comes to these things You know you come from it from the technical end and I come from it from the voiceover end and we have that What is that thing those circles? The Venn diagram Zenn. Yes. Yes And we have big vocabularies and it's because it's a Venn diagram for sound. It's a Sven diagram You heard it here folks That's what they call it in Sweden Yeah, next week we'll have another fantastic guest. Yeah, so stay tuned to find out who that's going to be Who are our donors of the week who we are so graciously thankful to we got donations from yes icon, that's Martha Shana Pennington Baird Stephanie Sutherland Patty Gibbons Donna Burtzel Thomas Pinto and Philips Pierce are making donations They these are all repeat names for us because they're all subscribing They're using the ability to make a subscription on PayPal through our website, right? You can do that or just make a single-time Donation if you found something really really helpful for that show or maybe we answered your question or Just cause but we really appreciate that support. Cool. All right. Hey, you know We're here to help you out. We want to see what you guys are doing out there. Show us your booths, please show us your booths Yeah, you know, I mean, it's I mean it's great seeing great landscapes of Alaska Yeah, but we'd rather see your booths Show us what how creative you can be and how well it works. We like to hear how it sounds to you know I mean if you're talking into a room full of egg crates Or styrofoam cups as we had a couple weeks ago that was kind of interesting But we want to see your booths And what you do is send them to us at the guys at v obs.tv and shoot them in Landscape not portrait You know, I mean, it's like when you take your iPhone and take these pictures Don't do it like this. We're also instagram programmed The phone for a side sideways So it looks good on the screen here because that's how I took this particular picture Going 30 miles an hour across a train trestle in the middle of nowhere, Alaska. You were in a train. Hopefully we were Yes, I was on the train. It would be the Alaska railroad, which is a great railroad, by the way And you'll notice though, but it's it's fascinating with this river here Yeah, it's the color of the water here is clear until it gets into this river Which is filled with glacial silt from all the melting glaciers And if you if you zoomed in on that picture right there, you'd see that the water there is actually blue going into Coffee Interesting fascinating took a raft right on this river. That's freaking cool. It was really cool. It was really really cool So was your birthday? That's right. Uh, and it was my it was my mother-in-law's 85th birthday There you go, but she wasn't with us on this segment. She was just on the boat. We just left her there Center off on an iceberg I hope she's not watching If you want help with your rap this before you take a deep deep I keep digging and doesn't get any smaller I don't get it. Hey, if you want to work with george with your home studio, where do they go? 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Yeah, uh lino Who I think he was having dinner tonight, so I hope it was very good mic. Yeah He's not and his mom didn't make it because she's busy here at working for us chat room Judy duty is normally mike and uh, su and su is our technical director su melino and lee penny We're not sure what he does, but he's leaping last I saw he was making radio control car Accessories. Oh cool living in a childhood dream apparently it happens when you get to our age Yeah, I was like I couldn't do this when I was a kid now. I can do it Anyway, well, as you know, this business is not easy voiceover takes You know not only voice acting skill, but you also have to have somewhat the technical skills to do what it takes to record The magnificent voice of yours and that's why we're here because we want you to Make it sound right so the guys at the other end make it something like a problem That I think I think the problem with what audio is is you don't want it to sound bad Yes, exactly