 She's got a quick logo finger Patrick have you been following the pre-show episodic intros? No, I haven't well your things been happening spoiler. You're gonna be an episode three of five. I Am very excited and you should have a little bit worried Don't be worried. No, ten back. Does it involve does it involve like a mystery and like dancing an action? Yes Oh Then you ready? Yes. I hear it. Here you go I do Informant like Tim Rowe know where to find the tech news thieves, but to watch out for the vicious ringleader Give Tim a helping hand support the Daily Tech news show at bit.ly slash help DTNS What will happen at the thug side out? Find out on the next ace detective This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday October 7th 2014 I'm Tom Merritt joining me today Patrick Beja host of Loran de Vutek and DTNS contributor Happy evening where you are. It's like you. Oh, I didn't think you would remember. Thank you so much Remember your evening. Yes And I was following the pre-show intros I listened to every short. Just didn't realize that's what you were talking about when you Before you actually launched it if you guys have been enjoying this this mini series in the in the little pre-show bumps Thank Tim back and sub guns. They do a great job with these We got we got a couple more before the the mystery wraps itself up. Meanwhile, let's get into the headlines. Let's The 2014 Nobel Prize for physics was announced Tuesday going to Isamo Akasaki Professor at major University and Nagoya University Hiroshi Amano professor at Nagoya University and Shuji Nakamura Professor at the University of California in Santa Barbara for their work on blue LEDs I'm using some right now an Efficient way to grow usable sizes of gallium nitride crystals paved the way for blue LEDs and thus White LEDs by either combining blue with green and red LEDs or by using the blue LEDs to excite phosphorus Which they could do particularly well CNET reports Akasaki and Amano work together on the technology at Nagoya University While Nakamura worked at Nichiha chemical Corporation it took more than a decade of work to produce practical blue LEDs designs in the 1990s But they've increased efficiency lowered power consumption and the cost have been coming down over the years So this is not something new I was very confused by that news It's not like they actually invented something last year that has made LEDs substantially better No, in fact green and red LEDs had been around since the 60s and nobody could figure out how to make blue LEDs work They started work on this mid 80s took them into the 90s to get it to really be practical But what's cool is it's I mean no disrespect to the Higgs boson, which is fantastic science, right? But the Higgs boson is going to have more diffuse effect on our lives over long periods of time This is an example of really Nobel Prize winning physics that impacted us right away It allowed us to you know change the way we liked things. It gave us Better energy efficient street lamps. It gave us better color on on our LED screens It gave us LED screens is what I'm trying to say So it's the kind of thing where people can go. Wow, that's that's practical Not that every Nobel Prize needs to be practical, but it is cool to be like, yeah, this this impacted us right away It's it's pretty impressive to watch the The chart CNET put together with the light bulb That does 16 lumens per watt and the LEDs that do 300. So it's actually a very much more efficient way of using Electricity to to create light. Yeah, and the prices continue to come down Becomes more affordable to buy the bulbs in your house and really with power prices the way they are It probably pays for itself anyway because they are fairly long-lasting too So yeah, I got cool excellent. Yay for LEDs. Congratulations Nobel Prize winners for physics TechCrunch reports Facebook has officially launched its audience network Which allows any advertiser to buy ads and any third-party app to host them While Facebook uses its data to target the ads to the right people This increases the number of ads Facebook can sell and puts them in direct competition with Google's AdMob Yahoo's Flurry and Twitter's Mopub. It's also reasoned for many To investigate how to turn off ad tracking in iOS and Android Yeah, and this is different than Atlas Although it's a it's a similar system. This is the one that they had announced at the F8 conference recently Yeah The Verge reports Twitter filed a lawsuit against the United States government in the US District Court of Northern, California alleging a violation of First Amendment rights by preventing Twitter from disclosing the quantity of national security letters and FISA orders that it receives currently Twitter and and other companies are only allowed to report a range That is between 0 and 999 which Twitter says is not only too broad But it doesn't allow them to say if it hasn't gotten any letters because zero is included in the range Twitter has been in the past few years. Well since it was created a strong stronger we could say protector of its users privacy and it's pretty interesting to see finally someone actually Contesting this law because it seems like not being able to disclose to disclose this kind of Requests doesn't really serve any well, maybe I'm not seeing the right the right way here But it seems to not serve any other purpose than to prevent people from being outraged somehow or you know to understanding the the the breadth of These types of requests. I don't understand exactly why it would be bad for us to be able to know, you know We got 563 Requests to Twitter What's the I believe the worry is that the more information you give to the bad guys The easier it is for them to determine what's happening and if Twitter were to come back and say we didn't get any security letters We didn't get any FISA orders then suddenly the bad guys using Twitter can go aha They haven't caught us they're not on to us because they didn't get any they didn't send any any letters Or if they sent one or two or actually maybe even more telling would be a number like five and they're like There's five of us they they're on to us because we're the five right it gives Information and you can you can we can have an argument all day long about how much information It's really gleanable, but zero to 999 gives less information. I think Twitter's response here is Yeah, but the first amendment says that you can't have overly broad protections that restrict speech This is an overly broad protection It's also I understand you're the argument and it does make sense the the argument you just made I just think it makes sense in a theoretical way I'm not exactly sure you know if you know that there are 15 letters Maybe if there are none you're gonna think alright I'm probably safe, but if there are 15 or maybe you can make it a smaller range You know if there are 15 compared to 20 I don't know that in the entire world That's gonna mean people are gonna catch on to what the NSA is doing but well And that's why Twitter says it's overly broad because they're like, you know Is this really gonna end up maybe maybe not if it's maybe maybe not that that pretty much defines it as broad and And in that case it should not be It would be a violation of First Amendment protections on free speech, right? CNET reports AT&T has warned 1600 customers in Vermont of a data breach AT&T claims an employee violated the company's privacy policy in August Obtaining customer data like social security numbers and drivers license numbers The employee in question is Surprisingly no longer employed by AT&T and law enforcement was contacted and customers are advised to place a fraud alert on their accounts I'm guessing they contacted the customers affected directly Yeah, they put a letter up on the on the government of Vermont's website as well as sending it to the affected customers Venture Beat reports Nvidia is launching its Maxwell based mobile GPUs for laptops the Nvidia GeForce GTX 980m and 970m Maxwell chips deliver twice the performance per watt of power consumed compared to the previous generation of chips Or at least they can the chips can render 4k in the background Even if you only have a 1080p screen that can help improve the 1080p picture They have multi-frame aliasing voxel global illumination for better lighting effects and twice the energy efficiency of the previous generation Chips are available in many laptops from many manufacturers starting today So before we get some well actually ease in the email I believe it would be multi-frame anti aliasing. No, yes, I wrote it wrong and then I said it wrong You're right anti aliasing not aliasing. They're not adding. They could be fun. You know the aliasing is pretty bad Let's make it worse But those chips are really interesting. I mean they're they're pretty cool on the desktop versions the 980 and 970 are pretty cool already on in desktops But in laptops basically what Nvidia is saying is that laptops laptops are going to be able to rival desktop performance in the graphics department and since games have not been as Demanding, you know the demand growth. I should say the power hunger hasn't been growing as fast as it was in the past Ten years, I would say it could be that we have Desktops or laptops rather that are very performant in get in the games departments. That's something that's really interesting to me So yeah, it is this is this is cool stuff. I think they said they're like it's about 75% But what you get out of a desktop, which it's not bad. Sure now, of course, you know, these chips are not going to be as Power efficient as the integrated chips that Intel is putting in their CPUs, but still it's it's a good option. Yeah, they're much better In gadget reports Samsung It's operating profit for q3 will be down 3.6 to four billion Dollars, which would be the fourth straight quarter of declines Analysts believe Samsung is feeling a squeeze on his phones at the high end by new iPhones and at the low end by Xiaomi and Lenovo It's a tough business to be in the handset market. Yeah, it's a good thing They've got a chip maker and finances and washing machines and whatever it else it is And memory right that's yeah, but I was thinking of that with the chips, but yeah the memory chips all that stuff Yeah Josh Ong of the next web writes about a company called high five run by two former Google employees trying to fix the dreaded conference call First the hardware a 799 dollar device that includes a wide-angle 1080p video camera microphone array and HDMI and internet connections all in a very Lovingly made package that sits on top of a TV or mounts to a wall If you're running late to a meeting you can start the call on your smart device and then send it to the high-five device when you arrive It also supports wireless screen sharing can allow up to ten people or ten rooms on a call And it's free for any company that buys at least one device a pro plan is coming Which will be about ten dollars per active user per month. It'll give you a bunch of added features, too But now if they can just work on the pain of scheduling conference calls that would complete the package I don't know why everyone is so concerned with conference calls. I mean cuz I awful Everyone sitting in a conference call has a complaint about the system like the meeting is bad enough Right when you got the person droning on and or saying the same thing over and over and not listening to what are you suggestions? But there's always tech involved that's going wrong, too So if somebody can crack this and make it easy which from not just Josh Ang's piece But several others that I read high-five seems to have built something that really does just work at least in the demos So we'll see if it can handle a real world, but that's very exciting for people Time now for some news from you. These are submitted to our subreddit daily tech news show dot reddit calm Get out there and vote if you got nothing else to do take a couple minutes and just look through the stuff You know, it's best to get it in before the show get your voting in But that doesn't mean you can't do it right after the show for the next day's show Daily tech news show dot reddit calm is there 24 hours for you to vote submit, etc. Captain Kipper is very sorry That's that's the magic of it. It's always before the show. That's right I said that and then I realized actually there's never a time that isn't technically before a show Well, at some point there might be but we don't want to talk about that. That right. Yeah, that means I'm dead Kipper flagged us to a Buzzfeed story about a DEA special agent who appropriated the identity of a woman named Sandra Arquiette and created a fake Facebook page in her name in order to communicate with suspected criminals Arquette was arrested in 2010 DEA agents alleged she was part of a drug ring, but a judge sentenced her to probation However, one agent used photos from Arquiette's seized cell phone including images of her underage son to populate a fake account When Arquiette found this out because people are like hey What's this weird there's an old picture of you on a car on your Facebook page She's like I don't have a Facebook page so Arquiette sued the agent for violating her privacy and placing her in danger the Justice Department claims via a filing that the Agent had the right to do this privacy advocates are to say the least concerned saying no I don't think you do have the right to do that Yeah, how did they think they had the right to do that? Well, I think it's hard to follow the logic here But I think what they're saying is She is on probation She has to do what we say we own the pictures because we seize the cell phone. They're not art and they're now her property And it's a sting operation. So we get to do sting operations You can go around and pretend to be other people in real life. Why not pretend to be her on Facebook? I don't know that you can't pretend to be I mean they couldn't pretend to be her and Answer the phone and say hey, this is Sandra. How's it going? I that's a weird I guess it's a weird 21st century Issue that's rising up with these kinds of technologies, which is very interesting to think about yeah And debate and the law will adapt slowly, but it will I am this it is it is an interesting So I'm interested to see how the court rules on this for sure I think it's about like basically if you have the right to impersonate Someone and you've been given that right through courts, then it's probably okay It doesn't seem like they've gone through that process though I would think you would have to get Consent and what the I what the Justice Department is saying is we have her consent Through through the consent to be searched and I think what she's saying is that's not no consent to search My house is not the same as impersonate me on Facebook Habitual Condolce points us to a verge right up of a BuzzFeed investigation Which used an Android app called I beacon detector to find 13 beacon Bluetooth transmitter inside New York City phone booths turns out there were about 500 of them total beacons can send out Can send alerts and can be used to collect anonymized data like location time of data app usage and more when Coordinated with an app New York didn't seek public approval before letting outdoor ad company Titan install them After BuzzFeed published their report the CD asked Titan to take the beacons down Titan maintains the beacons were only being used for research and maintenance purposes Right beacon beacon is one of those weird things because it really can't do much without you playing along But because it can do a lot if you do play along and a lot of people may not realize that they're given it the approval, right? It's it freaks people out and to think like 500 of these were hidden in phone booths around New York City I get why they didn't want to go for public approval. I get that. Yeah But but if you don't install an app and you and especially if you turn location services off And notifications off. I think you're I think you're Prevented from these things, you know, they can't like hack into your phone or anything So so it doesn't it doesn't track people in the same way that Wi-Fi sniffer not sniffers But Wi-Fi networks might track MAC addresses or if you have who have to the Bluetooth low energy turned on and and have given it Approval to broadcast and communicate then. Yeah, I can't but you have to give it that so Yeah, but I'm cookies on cookies off situation. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so a little bit Well if beacons don't worry you and you're not scared of the DEA impersonating you on Facebook. How about this Black and whitefield submitted an article from the digital reader comm a hacker recently noticed that Adobe's e-publishing software Seems to be sending a large amount of data to Adobe servers apparently Adobe's digital editions for is gathering data on which ebooks that have been opened within the app Which pages were read and in what order the app also scanned the computer gathering the metadata from all of the ebooks Sitting on the hard disk and uploading that data to Adobe servers bonus all of the data is being sent to Adobe servers in clear text I You know, I think I must be either a Horrible person or somewhat dysfunctional because if I'm being honest even the beacon thing doesn't really it Annoyed me. I don't think it rises to the level of actually bothering me at it. It certainly doesn't Outrage me am I is there something wrong with me Tom? No, I I get what you're saying, especially with the beacon thing I'm like, well, it's it's probably not doing that horrible of a stuff if it's collecting data on you Yes, we should keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't do horrible stuff But if you're really worried about it, you can turn it off. That's how I feel about beacon on the other hand This really gets me angry and I don't know what the difference is You know, it's like because the solution is don't use Adobe digital reader But this idea that well, you're trying to protect the publishers from me the law-abiding Citizen copying your book when plenty of people are ripping off your DRM and copying it and not getting spied upon This is just another one of those long parade of examples of people who do the right thing getting punished and I think it's probably more Bad policy than it is nefariousness like especially that being sent in clear text. That's just yeah That's that's what actually bothers me the most about this is like, all right I can see that it's anonymized data that you're gathering for statistics or whatever It's not actually trying to spy on me specifically. So I could be okay with it, but Sending in clear text like we should be past that we should know that this is even for these this kind of data Just encrypt it and that will be accepted. It's a wagging of the finger Yeah, if you encrypted it it would get it just a wagging of the finger and then you know, don't do that again No, no Adobe and don't add it or or it don't you're good Don't use Adobe digital editions for because it's lies on you Well, if we know if we know it spies we can make that choice. I guess here. We didn't know yet So yeah, and that my friends is a look at the headlines For our main discussion today Patrick and I want to talk a little bit about the story about Google changing how they're in the news box works If you've done Google searches over the years You've noticed that there is sometimes a small subsection near the top that says news for at least it used to used to say news For and it would pull some headlines from news sources with a link to the Google news section It was essentially saying here's some of the stuff that would show up in Google news under those same keywords That's relevant and timely I've always found that to be fairly useful They've changed it now to be in the news and Danny Sullivan over at search engine land Happened to notice that reddit was showing up in there and he have first thought well Did they add reddit to Google news as an official news source? That would be very interesting So he got in touch with Google and know a Google told search engine land is we will be pulling from all over the web Which means that we will present as diverse a range of voices as possible for the news for section But that doesn't mean that those articles will show up in the Google news product Though that will still be separate that will still be vetted news sources over there so That's just weird because first of all you're like saying this is news But it's not the same news as the news we're calling news in the other part. We call news and Also, it's opening themselves up to things like there was a TSA posting on reddit that uses the F word and that showed up in the news For TSA F you TSA it's um, you know my conspiratorial mind Immediately goes to the issues that Google has been having for its Google news section With the press in Europe especially I mean in France in Belgium and in other European countries Some prominent press organizations have been trying to get Google to basically pay for the Extracts that they would take Yes, I know it's funny. Please don't stop linking to us, but pay us for it Right is basically the idea because Google said sure. We'll just pull you out of Google news. That's fine I don't know and we need a traffic, but we also want you to pass for it, which is and and you know Surprisingly and quite frankly upsettingly They've had to reach deals with some of these organizations to give them money over, you know It was a good chunk of change over a few years to make it okay for them to be Featured in that section that actually brings them traffic that Google is then paying them for the ads on the You know on the on the pages that they're being displayed because of that traffic that's being bought by Google Anyway, they've been having issues with all of these news organizations and press Specifically and when I saw that piece that that piece of news on search engine and I thought my immediate thought was Okay, are they? sneakingly trying to diversify their news Offering initially only on the in the news portion But maybe you know down the line on the Google news portion by having different sources Maybe blogs, maybe reddit, maybe, you know Twitter or maybe even public Facebook pages at some point Since we know they're not pushing Google plus as hard as they have been before Possibly in an attempt to Be less reliant and dependent on the actual newspapers for the news in general on their websites Is that is there any validity to this long-run strategy? It's yeah It struck me the same way and I doubt that that's the main Motivation simply because they would have put it over in Google news as well. I think It feels more like from the get-go. Well, I feel it feels more to me like this is two different teams And one is the Google news team which used to just say okay The search team is embedding part of our results over there. That's great Now the search team is like, you know, we really are still trying to crack this social aspect of things We, you know, we tried putting Twitter in and then Twitter cut off our fire hose And then we thought Google plus was gonna solve it and Google plus hasn't solved it because not everybody uses Google plus big surprise Even if you know people do use Google plus more than some people think it's not gonna be the social signal So they're like, well, what what about reddit, you know, what about these other blogs out here that aren't technically news sources But they have relevant results. What if we change it to In the news because it's social news and news is social now And it sounds like a department trying to change an element that another department used to control and that other department's like No, we're not we're not doing this. We're not putting these people in our Google news product yet I Get I think it might be also I mean, I understand why the Google news which is like actual vetted news as you were saying wouldn't want to integrate these Elements, but I also think it might be sort of a trial to see how it works in these in this section first and possibly integrate that later Because really when you think about the news In general today, I don't think you can't really constrain it to just the Press I guess Blogs could potentially I'm not saying all blogs are news obviously but blogs could In Google news, I mean yes, of course, but I mean, okay, maybe reddit is a better example Reddit isn't necessarily a News outlet, but it could be something that you know contributes to the news There are there have been the front page of the internet, right? That's whatever that's what it's often called And I think you're right. It is news just not Journal the news, right? Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess the question becomes Are they trying to integrate? Non-journalism news in their news products at some point Mm-hmm And I don't mean that to be a pejorative when I say I'm because reddit is full of journalism trust me But I'm just saying reddit is not a journalism in the sense of you have an editor assigning stories to reporters It's not that kind of system And and and all of the other things even the blogs that are over on Google news are you may be right I mean if you if I were Google news, and I wanted to test this this might be how I tested it So it's it's hard to tell from the outside, but it is it is interesting Let's take a look at the calendar Microsoft's gonna hold a cloud event on October 20th But it will not be in the air. It'll be on land in San Francisco Sacha Nadella and Microsoft's EVP of clouds got Guthrie will talk about the company's plans for cloud computing application services including Azure So that'll be happening October 20th right around the rumored time of an Apple announcement That'll be interesting. Well, I think the Apple announcement is on the 16th now No, or is it the 21st or is it when Apple actually announces something is happening perhaps? Yeah. Yeah, maybe Just a side note very relevant News journalistic news driven comment being EVP of cloud is a super awesome time Yeah, I don't know if that's his official title, but I kind of hope it is yeah Sorry guy. No, that's okay. HTC's double exposure event happens tomorrow October 8th in New York City So we'll we'll find out a little more about what HTC has in store. That's the one where they they want to present a GoPro type thing apparently with the teasers what that's what the theory is yeah, and it seems to be borne out by a few leaks In that case. So yeah, Scott Guthrie is executive vice president of the cloud and enterprise group according to Microsoft I'm disappointed now. Yeah You know what Microsoft cloud and enterprise group. Yeah, we still haven't completely decided on my official DTNS title I think we should discuss EVP of cloud EVP of cloud done. Yeah, I'll run it by Jenny for final approval October 8th through the 11th is the Grace Hopper celebration of women in computing in Phoenix, Arizona, too So check that out as well our pick of the day comes from Sashin Bahal who says proper pronouncement is 2nd Bahal so I just said it wrong and I probably mispronounced your pronunciation. Anyway, he's in Toronto First off, I wanted to say I'm addicted to the Daily Tech news show. It is now one of my favorites Thank you very much. My pick of the day is the app called site. It is an awesome app It works almost like pocket or Instapaper, but all you have to do is take a screenshot of the article you're reading and Boom you can read it later on the developer just recently updated the app So it takes advantage of iOS 8's extensions So you can still save stuff to read it later and offline that I mentioned that it's a free app because it is the only Downside is that it is available for iOS only, but you can view your saved stuff on their web interface That's an interesting take on this this read it later stuff My problem with the read it later stuff is that I never go read it later I have a lovely long list at pocket that I've never gone and read Yeah, I used to read a little bit more of it before I don't know in the past year. I guess I've Not done it as much as I should the thing about the screenshots though For really long articles you have to take like 15 screenshots to get the whole article Is that am I understanding it right in the way it works? Well, if I'm getting this right you're it doesn't matter what app you're reading You you just take a screenshot and then site Analyzes the screenshot finds the article. It's based on and saves it. Oh And then the articles are optimized for mobile reading and available when you're offline because that goes and catches them in the background Okay, why not just use a URL then? Because if you're in an app like Feedly for instance Getting the URL might be a few clicks away or in some apps You may not be able to get the URL at all because of the way it handles the browser this way it doesn't matter You don't have to think about it. You're just like click screenshot done. Interesting. Yeah, kind of a cool thing Send your pics to us, please We want to hear your pics send them to feedback at daily tech news show calm and you can find my pics at daily tech news show Com slash pics Let's finish up with a message of the day from Franz who says I may be a bit late on the subject But I wanted to bring up one last point regarding the windows 10 Continuum model which I think you may have missed in last week's episodes having the same operating system on the phone as on the desktop Opens up the possibility to plug your phone into a docking station and have it literally be your PC in your pocket All you would need would be a dock screen keyboard and mouse Basically windows phone 10 could provide what Ubuntu Edge promised and failed to deliver Also, windows would be a better vehicle to have this working since the potential user base would be greater than with Ubuntu Granted it would not be the most powerful machine far from it But the implementation could be simple at least in theory and I can imagine a few use cases where I wouldn't need much computing power Anyway to be productive. What is your take on this idea? Patrick I think we sort of touched on it a little bit in the episode we did right after The windows 10 announcement with mollywood, but yeah, we didn't go much into it I think you're you're completely right, France. It could be one of the holy grails of computing since Mobile the mobile market exploded a few years ago a lot of people have been thinking about trying to get this and as computers Mobile computers, you know phones power explodes They can now pretty much handle a lot of what we're doing with our desktops Not everything and I don't think we're ever ever going to reach a point where we can Absolutely do everything we're doing on the desktop with the power of a mobile, but it could be Provide some interesting solutions to some of the cases and the issues we have however One thing I will say is that the real issue we're trying to solve with these Computers in our pockets plugged into docks and used as desktops is really only the files Being transferred from one to the other and the cloud seems to be solving that issue in another way already So I'm not sure exactly how much we're gonna need this in a couple three five years when the you know Connection speeds are gonna be available fast enough everywhere that you know the cloud is gonna be pervasive so Yeah, and as high storage gets cheaper and cheaper it's starting to catch up with our needs For storage it gets closer and closer all the time as well So even if you didn't have the cloud you could still just have one device that is your storage your local storage as well I don't think the operating system is the gating fact here here so much Android art you can already do this with Android. There's Android phones out out there that do it The aces pad phone is kind of an attempt for this I I have definitely seen Microsoft pushing this as the big advantage to the unified operating system to me It's more about the processing power of that device if I you know and and like you say if we get enough ubiquitous Internet connectivity and cloud storage That takes some of the pressure off, but can it drive the big 4k monitor that that I have can I play a video game on it? You know, what are the things that I can that I need a desktop for that a smaller device with its internals can't do I feel like that's the bigger problem not the operating system. Yeah, it is but we're not far from that already and CPUs desktop and laptop CPUs are gaining power a lot less quickly a lot slower than mobile Now it's all about it's all about the graphic processor at this point not the CP. Yeah, right Yeah, that that will be yeah, and we just had the story about the Nvidia bringing the higher-power graphics to the laptops So we are making progress down that road as well Well, thanks Franz good thought provoking email appreciated feedback at daily tech news show comm. Thank you Patrick Beja Folks go check out Loranda Vutek if you speak French, you're gonna love it if you don't speak French you can learn it I think I'm gonna change my tagline if you speak French, you're gonna love it Don't speak French you're gonna learn it that will work. Absolutely. Yes if you enjoy the French language and enjoy tech news Serve to you in a summarized manner every two weeks Then Loranda Vutek is made for you and you can go check it out at French spin comm You can also check me out or at least my Twitter feed and thoughts on Twitter comm slash not Patrick and Patrick's got more Irons fires pots cooking All kinds of things going on. 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I think he's never beard of him On it works when you write it and Robert says never trust a guy with Robert in his name. I Know I don't I know I do 100 well actually that's not true. I completely trust most people with Robert's in their names It's just Justin Robert young. I don't trust specifically Well, most serial killers have three names, but not all three-name people are serial killers. Let's just you know Get past that prejudice right now Not saying that Justin Robert young is or is not a serial killer. I have no idea Is Justin Robert or Robert young a serial killer find out tomorrow Plus episode four of I don't have a proper name for it do we Title why is Jenny being so quiet? Oh Oh, it's muted Her mic is off Yes It's funny to see the what she's like why you guys would not let me talk you just keep going Still don't hear you. I think your mic's possessed Because it's we should have had a Halloween October Daily Tech news show Oh, is it Halloween now? No, it's well, you know It's sci-fi does the 30 days of Halloween in October. Well, it's not too late. Yeah. Oh I'm hearing things. All right. How about now? Yeah, now we hear you bizarre Would you like some titles before my computer totally loses power and goes bye? Yes? That would be good Okay, so the top vote getter from Todd Whitehead is turning LED into gold, which is another great when you read it Because it says lead. Yeah. Oh, I see. I didn't get it at first It's the Nobel Prize Philosopher's Stone Then you've got a CS803 with Google quote news. Have you read it? Yeah, which is very good very good there And of course Paul Ganon. Oh what I really like this one Nobel LED with the L serving both The end of Nobel LED got it. No bad lead Nice really great You guys have a preference. Oh wait. I'm not done. Oh, sorry down there and vote number three is fake book I feel like that's from somewhere else somewhere else. I also do like CS803's blue light special Yeah For the blue light special and also no bells blue man group, which is just I Love it. There are a lot of good titles today Yay titles my my use them all All right, I gotta pick one now which one is it is it turning lead into golden? I think it's yeah, it's pretty good Or Google news. Have you read it? I mean that's a little long. I Don't know. I like so many of these today Good there's good ones today. Lots of good ones. There's always good ones, but Google rolls out local news and weather app for iOS That's a weird combination local news. Yes Uses and weather app for your ass your comprehensive and personalized view of headline stories and local news and weather Is it weather on the 8th? Sounds like like morning radio in the US. I guess so that's I guess where they Traffic and weather on the 8th. It's Google K Google Kg o o g le We know it's too many letters of the FCC f you FCC. We're not a broadcast station We include reddit did our good news with F words Reddit literally is the F you FCC Yeah, we put the F CC yeah, we will take our party elsewhere. Thank you a Nobel Prize out of the blue Good one Curtis P out of the blue and into the black. Well, no, that doesn't make any sense That's the actual lyrics of the song I guess they're into the I was thinking maybe they were in the red because they hadn't won the prize money yet And now they're in the black No Wait me did everyone leave? I'm literally watching my computer. It's now I find a cricket sound effect. I gotta go charge it. Hold on Everybody come with me. Yay. Let's follow Jenny through her house I'm so I'm trying to avoid showing you what the place where I normally broadcast looks like is It's one of those things where it's not gonna it's not as bad as you think it is. Yeah, it's bad Or maybe it is Epic diapers, okay power power has been achieved So did you see that guy who sent the the video of just me? I can't remember exactly what I said, but the way I said it Sounded like hey Siri, and he was in his car And he was listening to the show and it actually like triggered Siri to stop the podcast and do a search I thought it's not the car which was more of a concern. That would have been that would have been much more Yeah, I would have been very concerned serious like that integrated into cars yet but imagine I mean That's what five years off Yeah, I don't think it'll ever like control the car though. I don't think you'll be able to accidentally say hey Cortana stop the car. What I don't know Let's have this conversation in six years Yeah, exactly. You know what I want to go far from I want to go back to buzz out loud six years ago and find an episode where One of us probably me just as likely says let's have this conversation in six years I would I would love to follow up because I've had tons of these kinds of conversations and you're right It's like, well, you know what's gonna happen and then what actually happens is that you have I don't know It's like there's not even cars in six years that something else is invented and totally takes over Well, we're not even here in six years. We're already off to interstellar space right exactly the singularity happens See ya, really Well, I'm just saying it could maybe not likely but I'm all for it. I'm team singularity. Are you pro singularity? Team singularity. Can you get like singularity gear like hats and jerseys, right? I Would love that Go singularity What would be the opposite of team singularity? What's the team Aniston of team singularity team logic and science? No, I did not Be a troll a bit of hater. I don't know I'm sorry. I don't mean that. There's just lots of logic in the singular Yeah, we'll be the opposite of singularity not singularity like singularity Team plurality. Oh man I Print up those t-shirts Yeah, somebody get Yes, exactly, that's what I was going for right there get Michael on the phone stat What else is going on Patrick, how are things? Busy good turns out that you know Having a preparing for becoming a professional podcaster that lives off the world's generosity and hard work and Putting together multiple podcasts Plus having a real daytime job is pretty exhausting. I Can attest to that. Yeah, also playing destiny takes a little bit And then try to fit in destiny on top of it. It's Destiny people problems Yeah, I'm having the same problem with Skyrim Which is my husband and I literally swear each day is a day We will not be playing Skyrim and then by the end of the day It's been like such a day that we're like just an hour It's just an hour. We're just gonna play for an hour and then you know Have you recently discovered Skyrim or have you been playing it every day for three years? someone gave it to us because we love fallout and It was weird just backlog we're about three years behind honestly Because we don't play games a lot, but when we do play them thoroughly And we like a very particular subset of games. They don't always play games They're the most interesting gamers in the world. We are not I will say that we are not because Matt sits on the couch He goes go there go there. You should go there and I operate. So You know, yeah, it's I mean, I'm almost jealous That you are now discovering Skyrim because that was such an incredible experience and You know it quite a bit. Yeah, it's amazing and it seems to never end, but it definitely like It just ends up being like wow everybody wants something from me What something from you like no more people that's not gonna work people It's um, I think I played about I don't know 80 hours of it something like that And it was weird because I didn't I didn't I never played any of the Elder Scrolls before that And I was like, yeah, I'll try Skyrim it looks pretty cool And there's that like live action trailer where he goes You know The music and the thing I guess I want to be that guy and then I started and I was like, oh my god This is the best thing ever for hours and hours on end. I think I spent an entire Christmas And it was great actually yeah, we are we are deep in But in and if you if there's I learned something yesterday Actually, I discovered it two days ago, and then I repeated the experiment. I found a way to make your whole day better in the real world It's amazing. You want to hear it? Does it involve playing Skyrim all day? No So if you go to Ikea on an off-cycle day, okay? So you go to an Ikea and you take one of their flat, you know, you put all the heavy stuff on it carts Mm-hmm, and you go to one of those long aisles where there aren't too many people and You just use it like a skateboard and you just push off and there's some weird combination of like Skating sailing and you know surfing it's literally like the best feeling ever it's it makes you instantly happy and Apparently the people at Ikea don't seem to care and don't make you stop Okay, yeah, it's an instant mood boost if you're at Ikea and you're feeling down Which often happens at Ikea sounds like a 70s love song Yeah down at Ikea feeling down What I usually do is Scoot around the ground I I go for the meatballs and that makes me feel better That's that's the pre shop Yeah, I did this is the post shop All right, so you do yeah, it's funny. I do the pre shop meatballs as well. Yeah, did you know that you can get You can get or it's been a long time since I tried this, but you could substitute side dishes So if you want the macaroni and cheese you can actually get the macaroni and cheese instead of the potatoes with the meatball special Shining down on me Good old lead belly China ever love and light on me Yeah, those are great So is the creature behind you a dog or a really weird cat It's a Pomeranian which is essentially a really weird cat Seven pounds tiny dog wait not good light His name is Jax. He was named after Mortal Kombat No, I you know, I can't take credit with someone else's dog before was my dog. They weren't okay, okay, but you're you're not yeah I'm a nerd. I'm a nerd. Okay, uh Just a very particular subset of nerd. Yeah, he's cute dog. He does all right All right, I think it might be time for me to go back to very serious Destiny destiny playing. Yeah. Yes. Yes, that's what I was gonna say. We understand and I'm out of the post So that's perfect timing. Thank you everyone for watching and we will see you tomorrow We'll be at your window. Just look but I was standing on your lawn We'll bring in the meatball special. That's right. We'll be both special