 Okay, wow. All right. All right. Hold on a sec here. I will do a little introduction for you Oh, I can with my voice going here Alright, so on our next session on big talk in small libraries 2019. We have Shawna Bryce Who is from our best small library in America 2018? Yay? Madison County Public Libraries in North Carolina And she is going to tell us How they got that award all the great things they've been doing there and what's going on in that library So I'm just gonna hand it over to Shawna to go ahead and take it away well, thanks so much Krista and I'm really excited to Represent Madison County Public Libraries today and thanks to the Nebraska library for having us on I Had to explain to my mother-in-law today that I was not going to Nebraska for a conference That we were doing this online and I Still think that it's kind of blown her mind and she's still trying to figure that one out But I just think this like this day long virtual conference is such a great idea for small libraries with smaller budgets And I'm just excited that we could be a part of it Well, you can show her the recording later so she can see exactly how it went. What is that? I know I'm kind of excited to share that with her actually So a little bit about myself I have a I have a master's in education with a focus on literacy and I taught high school English for 18 years and then My family was ready for a change. So we moved to Madison County. We always said that we were going to retire to this area. It just happened a lot earlier than we first thought and I left the classroom decided that I was I was kind of done with that and Was in between I was doing some writing and things like that and like every good resident the first thing I did was I went and got my library card and soon after that I joined a book discussion group and then soon after that I joined the friends of my local branch of the Madison County library and At a friend's meeting. I actually heard the director talking about a new position that they were going to Start advertising for with a grant that they had one and it would be for a part-time technology and structure And the focus would be working with senior adults. So it's kind of funny that I'm the follow-up to the Presentation before because I was like, oh, that's what I do So that was kind of like how I got my foot in the door here because I was like, oh, this is perfect I still get the teach and I get to teach senior adults and it's part-time so I can still write and do other fun things and I was hired of course and then I About a year went by and my director started talking to me about becoming a branch manager and I was like hard-passed. No way I I don't really want to do full-time. It's I'm trying to get away from that and well here. I am so the rest is kind of history I've been here with the library system for almost five years now and I actually really love being a branch manager because it lets me do a lot of different things and I am hoping to apply for my master's of library and informational science in the spring So I'm just one of those nerd people. I guess we all are I'm just one of those nerd people that would like to stay a student as long as possible So the slide that you're looking at right now are our three beautiful libraries in Madison County So I'll tell you a little bit about the county to this. This is the Mars Hill Library and That's my library. I call it. It was my library. I live in Mars Hill. So this was I was a patron here And now this is where I'm the branch manager This is the one in the middle is the main branch the Madison County Public Library and that's located in Marshall and then Okay, then the one on the the third column is This is our hot springs library and this is our newest Library space we actually got a OCLC grant to redo this space and It is in the small town of hot springs and we're really excited about this we think it turned out so cool and Quite modern especially considering the building that it used to be in So a little bit about Madison County, we are we have three distinct towns and Each of those towns have three unique libraries to them to Madison County is in Western North Carolina. If you know anything about North Carolina, it's a little above it's just north of Asheville and Just before you get to the Tennessee line Our population is roughly about 21,000 and up those 12,500 give or take a few our library card card holders, which is exciting We do you have being a part of the Appalachian Mountains? Of course, we are we have a rich Appalachian heritage We've got rich history Madison County was one of the places in North Carolina that was split during the Civil War and that is still talked about today We have wonderful nature trails The French Broad River so we see a lot of tourism. We are on the Appalachian Trail In fact, the town of hot springs is on the trail the library there Is one of two libraries that's actually on the trail itself So we get a lot of hikers, especially in the summertime spring and summertime. We get a lot of hikers, too But that provides some really unique opportunities To work with them and we do like e-library cards for the hikers so that they can Download stuff on their devices and take it with them on their hikes. So we've got we've got a lot of great culture We've got bluegrass music. We've got great artists writers It's it's a really great place to live and to work So I think part of or the main reason that maybe we were Selected for best small library is really the Collaboration and partnership and part of our strategy Here at Madison County Public Libraries is our focus is kind of a four-part focus with literacy outreach partnership and Technology and technology for the library here is really big because when you live in the mountains You don't really get to have the infrastructure for everyone to have access at home for to the internet, so we become a hub for that And we're always excited about About people being able to come and use the internet since the lots of times they don't have the Capability at home. We are we did have an organization that got a grant and they are in the process of Installing some high-speed internet, but it's still got a ways to go And we all know that that that doesn't work as as quickly as we often hope it does But with the library, we're able to provide that so I think through the presentation you'll see the partnership piece And that's really one of the that's really one of the focus or focus points For our strategy and what I thought I would do is I thought I would kind of go through Some of the programs that were highlighted by library journal and and I'll also talk about like how each one has changed or evolved And what that's looking like and what our what our thoughts for the future are as far as each one goes because everybody You know everybody Even the staff thinks okay, we've gotten this thing, but now what so now it's all it's all about the future And what that's going to hold for us so just like every library we of course focus on early literacy programs and We offer we offer early literacy programs at each of our Branches each of our three branches We also we do some of that in-house with our own staff and we also partner with the health department and smart start To provide a kids and kin program at our branches as well. And so this is where you know Kids can come in from zero to Kindergarten we have we've had little babies. We've had some here At mars hill. We had one here that was two weeks old Which I was a little bit like oh, don't get the germ don't be out at the germs, but whatever Two weeks old starting with our story time program and they do of course stories They do a lot of early literacy skills learning letter sounds and what the letters look like They do singing and dancing we do some Really early literacy steam activities. We have lots of hands-on um We have some great children's program programming team that really are just they take on these new personas when the um kids come in and they do voices and and some really great things like that and um We have we have certain parents that will go to at least two of the story like two different story times at two different branches The hot springs branches a little farther out for for a lot of people So sometimes they can't get to those but but there have been some that will hit all three during the week Which is which is really exciting. Um, we have actually Now what we've done is we have added a new story time and it's called little explorers because we really wanted to kind of make it not just a reading but also incorporate some some other activities with it and um, that's at our main branch now And it has all the all the regular components, but we've added um a sign language aspect to it So they're starting to learn um phrases and words to use with their parents at home and they're learning letters for sign language and um I would love to see this evolve into a bilingual story time early literacy But right now we only have one person on staff that's fluent in Spanish and um, she's uh, of course wears many hats um And just doesn't have enough hours in the day, but that could be something I could see perhaps evolving um, and we as we do have more and more, um Latinos moving into the community So that's our um Early literacy program um the next thing that um We are going to look at as the e-library And you know a lot of a lot of libraries have access to the e-library. I think one thing that um We do well here as we partner with the schools and um, we provide uh e-library cards to students um in the fourth grade all the way through the 12th grade um at our public high schools or public schools so we um, what that actually looks like is We go into the school and i'm one of the ones that goes into the school because i'm still technically the technology instructor for the library system so um, I go into the school and we do a how-to um, how to access the um e-library And we go through they go through you see the pictures of the different devices So depending on the class and and what device they have we show them how to um, how to set up their preferences How to log in with the library card How to check out a book how to download it on their device because we want them to be able to Take it home with them because like I said before many of them don't have um, many of them don't have internet access at home So if they go to school they can download um, their books on the device and then take it home and read um read at home And then we also go over how to um, you know, put books on hold and how to check them out that kind of thing Um, so this gives them and they love the fact that it's free. Um, and they love the fact that they're not going to get Any overdues? That's one of the big things that we talk about because they don't have to worry about Returning the book on time. It just disappears off their device and they're never overdue and the kids love that they're like Oh, I'm not going to be in trouble. That's awesome So, um, we go in and we we teach them how to do that we We make sure that they know that um, they can We talk about troubleshooting and um, we talk also about, you know, this this works for all your e-library materials and what that has kind of What that has kind of evolved into we did have we go to all the elementary schools. We have three elementary schools here um, one elementary school A few years ago They were they received a donation. I think it was like the fourth or fifth grade classes received a donation of um Some kindle fires and so The we had a teacher call and say Can y'all help us? You're like, what can we do with these? What are some things I could, you know, really do like with the library and with my classroom? And that was that was a foot in the door to do some of this e-library um we um The way it's kind of evolved now is um, I go into the middle schools and high schools And it helps that I've been an English teacher. I think because um I know I remember what it's like to be in the classroom and I Still like being in there so I go into the middle school and um the high school and teach classes on using databases for research because the other thing that these e-library cards give them access to Is nc live and nc live is um A it's just a warehouse of databases is what I call it and it's provided by the state library of north carolina and um They can use they can log in with their this this library card and access All has a material that they can use for research and it gets them away from wikipedia And it gets them away from you know, just trusting a random google search and we talk about credible sources and Why you should use the databases over? Just googling things and so I get to go in and teach Using those e-library cards and accessing the databases and so that's that's how that's kind of evolved now from from Mainly a focus on e-library to um to now including more like database research. In fact, I'm going uh in two weeks to teach database research at Our um early college high school. So and that's great because that's that's another partnership um, it gets us in the schools and um And we do have you know, lots of patrons um that will come back To the library and say hey remember when you came to our class and you talked about that computer research I need help with that now and um, and so that you know, it's getting them in the library um Twanes and teens can sometimes be hard to get in the library But if they know that we're there to help them especially with their school work and their homework Then I feel like that's a good hook and we can get them early and hopefully keep them coming back for a while And the other thing the other great thing about nclive that we tell them about is It's access like all lots of public libraries use nclive and lots of academic libraries use nclive So if they get used to using that now, those are still resources resources that they can and probably will use When they go to a um four-year college in north carolina So trying to put some of those stepping stones in place to to help them succeed Uh shawna you do have a question about that slide that you just had up Yeah, because you the principal's testimonial and everything about partnering with the schools How did you approach the school's two partner or did they approach you? How did that all we um We just started talking to the principals talking to the um The librarians there um our our former director and myself and some other um Staff members also have backgrounds in education. So I think that kind of helps A little bit because you know, we we get we get it's we get the we know the language You know that kind of thing but our our schools are just great to work with and we also We also have already started our store. We have a story time that goes out to the schools. So our children's um our children's staff They go read I think it's to the they go read to the kindergarten once a month and um We've just we've really established a great relationship with the schools before I can get something targeted for each grade level And and you know high school is harder to do I think because especially high school and middle school They've just got so much that they have to get done Um, but we really we thought this would be a good way to get to them Especially with research that they're going to have to be doing um in the upper grade levels Right awesome And someone else will add another question here. Do you have issues with students? That attend to live outside of your area when we considered a non resident user? so um I know that we have a few like that But we have just the so the e library cards are good for about Four years, I think and then they they expire unless they're unless they come in and talk to us about you know renewing them or whatever But um, I think we have so few in that category that we were just kind of like meh so what? Um, we just we just wanted to make sure that the kids had you know equitable access and um, and we do partner with um, I have worked with homeschool groups and um You know, they're that that's a little trickier and you have to know the people that are doing the homeschool groups So that's harder harder to really get into but a lot of that comes from just um Thankfully I get to work a circulation desk and stuff too So I get to start asking questions and that that's where a lot of it comes from as well is just um Making those connections with people and finding out and start asking questions um, but yeah, that's a that's something else that we really want to work towards is um, is making sure that those homeschool groups and um private schools and things like that They have the same kind of access that that the public school kids do too. Sure And one last question about this will do And the question says do you find a conflict with the school libraries? Or are you working with them? We we work with them we work with them and so when we go in and we show the the e library cards We do it with the school librarians and um, and it's just and We've we've got we just we got a great connection there and they you know librarians want kids to be readers You know at the school So they're always really welcome really welcoming and um And they know that this the e library is also going to you know um It's probably going to grant these kids resources That they might not have on their shelves because everybody has limited real estate. So um, this just opens it up and the um, the state of north carolina through this e library program They actually just launched like two years ago. They launched a um just for kids e library and um There are lots of titles that have like multiple copies So that classrooms can check out like sets and they can all be reading it together So that's helped with a lot of teachers too because they might not be able to purchase those those hard copies sets But they can rely on the e library and use those for free right So it's is that um e library card. That's an actual physical card not a not an electronic I mean the actual card. Yeah, right now. It's a physical card. Um, we are gonna migrate to a new system This spring and then there will be no physical card. It'll just it'll be linked to like their student number Which is kind of they know those numbers by heart and it'll be easier for them to access. So yeah So right now it is but then it's not going to be exactly All right, cool. Go ahead. Go ahead. Okay, cool so, um literacy leaves is a new program that we um also started kind of in conjunction with the schools um, it is a it is a um one-on-one or very small group tutoring um session that we offer and it started out as um Third through fifth grade and this year it has grown to first through fifth grade and it is for targeted students who are below grade level um and struggling in the classroom and so What this looks like is a student um is identified by his or her teacher as struggling the teacher um Contacts us contacts our literacy coordinator and um Gives us the name and sets and the teacher sets all this up We have a we have lead teachers at the schools that do this and they they communicate with the parents They sign them up and then they let us know um who the kid is and um what the focus needs to be and then um Once a week the uh bus drops them off from school the bus will drop them off at the library and um the kids come for an hour of um tutoring And when it started out right now it's only at two of our elementary schools um and when it started out it was uh, we had one session Once a week so for each school and now um this year we started um We have two sessions So we get two different groups. So like here at mars hill um We have a session on monday and then on wednesday So we have a monday group and a wednesday group and then at marshal we have a tuesday group and a thursday group and um they come in and they They get you see the picture. They get one on one and hopefully one on one. If not, it's like two two to one intensive tutor training based on what their specific needs are um I actually get to participate in this which i'm i'm really excited about being a um literacy teacher So I actually have um a student uh that I get to work with on mondays And I know and we also try and keep the same tutor with the kid because a lot of it is A lot of it is you know building a relationship and and building confidence And I think too we've had more success when the same person works with the same kid because they know what that kid needs To work on and we keep copious notes on um, you know, this is what we did today This is how how it went and probably what we need to do next week um We um are hoping to get it and then in the third elementary school It's just been a struggle with that just because like every other library system where we're short staffed and don't have enough hours in the day and um Just need more more people to help us with this um, but it has um It has been really successful the goal is for them to um To you know be reading and doing math at grade level Uh last year we had 65 percent of those kids passed their end of grade test And um at first we were kind of like oh only 65 percent, but still that's way good and um, that's you know, there's those kids Were you know in danger of not passing their their end of grade test had they not had some of that extra extra tutoring um we um Have some really really great volunteers that work with this program and are So passionate and committed to this program um The way that it's evolved i've already said you know, it's um um It we've doubled it this year um We you know, we have a waiting list of students And a lot of that has to do with we just don't have enough space to have too many um in The meeting room at one time um and we do try and make sure that they're in small groups with tutors too because otherwise it just becomes um It just becomes kind of crazy uh the The idea this year too is to do more um benchmark testing So that and and the schools do the benchmark test, but um, we're doing a better job now of getting um that information from the teachers so that if if we see that um You know student a is now at at or above grade level Then we can move that student You know say hey you've graduated from literacy leaps good for you. You don't You don't need us for a while and then move another one in that um that might be struggling uh the hardest part of this program is Turning kids away um because You know parents talk and the community parents talk and they um start talking about This great tutoring program at the library, but um and so they'll call the library and say hey I want my kid to be tutored and it doesn't really work that way. It has to be um it has to be uh um One where the teacher has identified that and gone through the process So that's You know, that's the hardest part is is to turn somebody down But we always say, you know, there is a you know Talk to your teacher talk to the lead teacher um Get on that list and um We'll we'll see what we can do with that um Questions about the tutors Sure. Um, you said they are volunteers So where do they where do they actually come from? Do they like train tutors or? Yes, we well we we provide in-house training. Um, our literacy coordinator is a She is a recruiter. I mean I've seen somebody that can recruit some volunteers like this girl can um And I think a big she also works part-time circulation desk for me here at mars hill And actually I think that has worked in her favor Because she'll start talking with people and she'll she'll notice Um, you know in conversations, she'll find out. Oh, you used to be a teacher. Well, guess what? We have this literacy program and we need volunteers, you know And really we have um We're blessed to have some really great friends groups that um, also, you know They volunteer and they get out in the community and they beat the bushes for us and and trying And get us volunteers too So A lot of it. I think it's about having the right person in that in that like recruitment piece But then we do provide We do provide training for our volunteers And then we update the training so every you know every few months we say hey Here's a strategy that you might you might want to try with your um With your your kids So that we try and and you know a lot of people are They're like, oh, I can't I can't tutor reading and well, I'm gonna tell you this new math that they do I mean, it's just crazy, but um We also reach out to we have two high schools here One is an early college high school and they require community service For their students for graduation And so we tap into them when I go to the high schools I said I I make a plug for hey if you're looking for community service and you like to work with kids We've got this program and it's great if you can get teenagers to To um volunteer at the library and I tell them to they kind of get to be rock stars because these little kids think they're so cool and Plus they know that new math that that they had to learn and I don't I don't so um as as often as we can get um Teenagers in we try and do that that was trickier to coordinate because You know, they've got jobs and they've got sports and they've got clubs and everything else um But we do have a few we do have a few teenagers that that tutor for us and We try and keep as long as possible All right, so since they're all volunteers then there's no um No one being paid to Do it so that this is at no cost to the kids. This is free for the kids who need it. It is free for the kids. Yes Yes All right, great. Thank you. All right so the next um, the next thing that we're going to highlight is this great eco explorer um this is a partnership we have with the north carolina arboretum and um We became a hot spot where um The kids come in and there are things that they can do they can join the eco explore program and then um There are like um Little assignments that they can do um to earn different points and they can go to different hot spots throughout our western north carolina area and then the arboretum also comes in um Each season to do a program um on some kind of um ecology theme And they will do the science program for us and that has been a really good opportunity to bring science into the library too And um, and it's as you can see it's very hands-on Um, we have these great backpacks that they can check out that have like once got a field camera in it And it's amazing because it's like night vision and they're supposed to like track The movements of animals around their house and things like that And I only I I want to check one out because we have a lot of wildlife in my backyard, but um And they do all these different things um and get these different badges through this eco explore program and that uh, that's a partnership with a with a Um Organization that it's not local. It's in ashville actually, but that so that brings some of the the we call it the big city um into Madison county so the next thing um that we have partnered with Next group is called the partnership for Appalachian girls education and um, this is one where Uh, we've talked about like there sometimes there there are partnerships that are for certain seasons and um our season with page is now Over and they have uh new partnerships But the great thing about this having partnered with them we partnered with them for two years um, this is also where we got some of our um volunteers our teenage Volunteers our high school volunteers to come in because we had we had been working with them for two years and um, you know built some of those relationships and this is page is a um organization that was created by dr. Deborah Hicks rogolf at duke university to bring um Uh to really concentrate on A global education digital education um for girls here in um the rural areas of North Carolina and so these girls sign up to be a part of page and actually one of the things that we did I'm going to go back a little bit one of the things that we did was This picture here on the bottom with the dog and the little girl reading The page girls we worked with them and they wrote children's stories one year and then we They did them on story bird and we had them published So we got the digital piece in we we looked at you know all kinds of digital skills and and story building and that kind of thing and um, we actually published hard copies of them And we cataloged them and we put them in library Um, and they could come see their work. They could check out their work. Um here in the library and this was actually um Maybe this was about This was last year with uh one of our read with me Kids and she was actually and that was one of the goals was we would love for some of these Storybooks to be used with our read read with me programs for the kids that came in and and read with the dogs So we actually still have these books and it's in and they're part of the collection and um And that was a really that was a really fun project to do with those with those girls so the um This this project has been consuming my life lately just because i'm working on it now. Um The teen summer reading program, um was something that we started a few years ago um the teachers In madison county the high at the high school level. They wanted the kids to have a book to read over the summer And we this has kind of morphed and is evolving and and is becoming something even more even Totally different for next year, but the first year it started. Um, we had um I would say about a hundred kids and the way it looked They would have a book that was assigned We would purchase a certain number of copies of that book so that the kids could come and check it out. Um at at all Three branches of the library and then we would offer workshops So at some point during the summer They could sign up. There were specific specific dates and they were located. We had different dates at all three. Um Branches of the library and they could sign up to come to one of those workshops And we kind of workshopped the book. We would talk about the book. We would do some different activities with it. Um And they would have to use their knowledge of and understanding of the book to complete all of this stuff and then when they went back in the, um school year they would um We would let the the English teachers know Who had attended and when and then they See like a hundred as a test grade to start the year off. Um This year, uh As you can see it's grown to we had I think we had 284 teens in 2017 and We just, um, don't have the the calendar time anymore and the staff to deal with this many workshops So we're in the process of creating A teens summer reading program in conjunction with the high schools Where it's it's kind of it's modeled after our kids and adults Well, they're they will get like a packet of activities. They they will um The teachers are deciding on the assigned reading and then we will take that and and Collaborate with them and create different activities around that book for the kids to do during the summer and each card each activity will be on a card and that um That will Once they complete it they can enter that into a prize drawing and then that'll also give them a chance to prep for Whatever work they're going to do with that book When they get back to um to school in the fall So that's still a work in progress right now. Um, in fact, I I'm I'm meeting with the teachers. They just chose those their books their theme is appalachian literature So we kind of have to deviate from Um the universe of stories or whatever the theme is or try to marry the themes um if we can But we're working on that and the teachers. Um, the teachers actually suggest some of the activities and then My children's programming coordinator here at mars hill and I work to create the The rest of the cards and activities and things like that. So we won't um, we won't do the workshops this year which That frees up about three weeks of um Three weeks of time in our calendar um But and I think that they'll and they'll enjoy having the the variety of activities We'll see it'll be it'll be something different, but we have had lots of tweens and teens saying, you know Well, I want to do a summer reading program packet too But you know, the kids one is a little bit too baby-ish and the adult one is too adult so um So this will be one that um, we'll we'll have to see how it goes. I'm excited about it. I think it's going to be great, um the the two books that the English teachers have chosen are um actually written by local writers too and so We're always excited to um to collaborate with our local writers and um, and hopefully we'll have some Teen author talks here at the library as part of that program and then um, the last two kind of go hand in hand so We created literacy connections um, it's kind of like it's like a literacy council for um Madison county, but it's under the the library's umbrella and with this we um We focus on a variety of things from 21st century skills like digital digital literacy to workforce development to GED tutoring It has this has been Pretty much a grant driven project. So we've relied on grants Well, we've we've relied on grants for for several other things I mean like a lot of small libraries do We are um hoping that uh, it can be its own fully funded um entity eventually and we won't have to rely on the grants And that would give us a little more flexibility maybe to connect to wider audiences And literacy connections is also um sometimes can be focused on uh The violent meeting volunteers. So with our GED program, we have We also we have a literacy coordinator who works with GED students But we also meet we also have some volunteers that work with them too. Um, and that's a That's a tough one GED is a tough one because um There's a there's a commitment piece that lots of times. Um Um Gets kind of dicey You're also dealing with um, you know family things. You're dealing with job things. Um You're sometimes you're dealing with probation things. Um, it's And and confidence confidence is a huge one We had a we had a guy that we finally got to take the GED and for the lot He was holding back for the longest time just because he he was like, I'm scared. I'm gonna fail Um, and so that's the confidence is a big piece a big piece of it too. Um The uh elite jail program at currently, um, it's on hiatus just because we've had, you know shifts in leadership and um, not enough not enough hours for our literacy coordinator and our volunteers go into the jail they go into the jail and they um work with the um prisoners and uh, it's it's one-on-one which can be a little Disconcerting for some people. Um, they try and get them to pass the high set and that that um, this is also a A program that you know, it can it can be an emotional roller coaster for the people involved because you can get Get them get the prisoners ready and psyched up and then suddenly they're transferred to somewhere else and um, that can be a little bit uh heartbreaking but you can tell by the testimonials that it's been like Um, it's really been life changing for a lot of people there. Um, not just for prisoners but for um, the volunteers and the the people involved with them so That one's on hiatus. We're hoping that we will bring it back soon. Um, but that's just a like I said It happens with with everything you've got changes and only so many hours in a day So, um, yeah, that's it. This is our Wonderful staff and I definitely didn't want to leave them out of the presentation because they're They're they're really the big part and the big reason why Why don't we got best of my library in America? So hey, I'm glad I didn't go out in my hour Yeah, you did great awesome. Um, we have a few questions about some of the things you talked about Sure Um, and I think we just yeah, we just get a few here. We'll do um for the eco explorer hotspot Uh program do the parents provide the transportation to get the kids there for that? Yeah, that's all um, that's all up to the parents to do. It's um, and there are lots of hot spots all across around our region So we get to be a part of that and that and that also brings a lot of People from the Asheville area into Madison County to and we we do have at our main branch We do have a um native garden initiative. So that's that's another big reason that Ego Explorer connected with us too because we have an initiative that um that really is focused on They've done some great work with the native gardens there And so that gets that gets some people into like Seeing the the beauty and everything around Madison County and learning more about what we've got what we've got going on ecologically Uh, right. Yes. Um, and so a snow uh for that one for what did page stand for the acronym page? Page stands for partnership for Appalachian girls education Right, that was the girls meaning. Yeah, I want to read you to the dog too. Yeah. Yeah Um And someone this is actually kind of things someone says they're familiar with stem But what is steam, you know, we've added in another letter to that acronym Yes, and now I think that some people are calling stream. I mean, right. Um steam is Just has an arts capacity in there Yeah, and there's an arts. Yes And yes, yeah, and it has As you said it has now people are calling it talking about stream Which as an r for reading reading which i'm kind of like, yeah, there was probably reading there before there should have been reading there before And the books that you used for the teen event the teen summer reading program um, what books what um, are some of the titles some was wondering what that you used Oh gracious. Okay. Let me think so last year they had another Appalachian focus They did the tall woman by wilma dykeman and she's she's a big north carolina ecological and women's rights person before Before that was really, you know Okay The tall woman was one of them and then I am one of you forever by fred chapel another north carolina writer The year before that Oh, I'm trying to think I know we have done um The immortal life of henry out of lax. I think we did that two years And last year was actually the easiest year because they finally paired it down to two books um the years before that Everybody had every grade level had a different book And my battery is getting But um, I can get a list if y'all want a list I can get a list to Just some ideas for themselves too. Yeah And for these partnerships that you have just a quick the last one last fast question Did you seek out them or did are some of these approach people approaching you or Or Oh, no. Oh, I think we may have lost her. It looks like we may have lost shawna. Oh, well. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay Don't know if it's her connection or yeah, or battery may have just said no Not a problem. Anyway, um, thank you shawna even though you seem to be uh Off there See if she'll come back All right, that's okay. So that was a great presentation. Um, I will have the slides and she'll get those book lists and everything too Later, I'm going to pull back presenter