 currently facilitating a book group on online learning from the student perspective and offering the ability to annotate the text as one way to engage with both the text but also with your fellow book group members. I was able to take the through our library and host those those PDS or folks to to to annotate and then nice thing about that experience or one of the nice things has been that the the asynchronous conversation that's happening in the margin then can drive the synchronous discussions that we hold over Zoom and so I have a sense going into our you know our synchronous sessions where people are interested in talking about within the text. I can actually pull different quotes or different annotations and refers to specific moments within the text and then that can I think create a little bit more of a focused conversation. I can also use those annotations to help me get a better understanding of different conversations that might happen for example in a Twitter slow chat so I also use Twitter slow chats as another asynchronous way to engage with different ideas and people and so you can certainly have a record of the conversation that was happening within the margins of a text and then continue that conversation in a different format that also might open up the conversation to the world beyond just the sort of closed-off book group because we are running it through Canvas. So that's one way to do it. Another is just through workshops that I've led most recently with our teacher education program managers and so invited to join the retreat for two hours and did some actually synchronous annotating which we're gonna do shortly here but there was a big sort of concern about how well how do we create community in an online course so rather than just sort of talk about it with one another which we did do but we were able to read articles that I had found about how do you create community online and so sort of live that experience. I also think it's important for faculty and staff we're going to ask their students to annotate to actually have the experience from a student perspective and so I think that was also important for me is when I'm organizing these experiences to think about well what is it like for someone who may be assigning a reading via hypothesis in Canvas or another LMS or on the web to actually experience our most student perspective. So that experience annotating the article about community then led into discussion both about the articles but also right sort of that meta-level discussion of all right well what we did just build a community within our within ourselves so