 You've got to be ratchet to make it across. When I saw Kevin Nguyen, I was like, I know Kevin Nguyen. And it's just he never had a name before. You didn't even eat that, VICE. You can't get that shit. Welcome to our brand new series, Culture Table, where we sit down with comedians and artists from different Asian communities and ask them the hard questions. Our first episode is about the Vietnamese-American diaspora. We talked to Sara, Mike, Kim, and Kwan at D&D Restaurant in Brooklyn to cover everything from ABG's and Kevin Nguyen memes to the Vietnam War. Let's go. Hi, I'm Kwan Ngoc. I'm the sous chef here at D&D. To sum up the restaurant, I would say that we're trying to go and showcase to the world. And there's more than just fun, but not really. And that was a foundational thing to kind of set this Vietnamese culture and food. We can go in, reintroduce something new. Things that we all grew up with, we as Vietnamese-Americans know, but everyone should know as well, too. Yo, you guys, we are here at D&D. I'm Sara, Mike, Kim. I want to talk about everything from Vietnamese stereotypes to ABG's to Kevin Nguyen to the memes and Vietnamese food. Yeah. You guys down with that? I'm into it. I'm into it. Let's do it. Let's start off by, what are we looking at right now? So this is the Banh Bo Chiang. And I don't think it's very authentically Vietnamese. We mentioned earlier it was mostly Chilchiao, but in Houston, Texas, there's one restaurant that has served this. And everyone ordered this at this table. This restaurant was known for the Banh Bo Chiang. Which actually is a great segue to my first topic. So we should all eat this, but I got a really great segue. Yeah, let's do it. In Vietnam, you can kind of say they're almost like the Koreans in Japan, in that they are immigrants and they came over, but they are definitely like outsiders. The second generation, my sister married someone who's Chinese-Vietnamese. It wasn't controversial, but I think it was like my mom married someone like that, that would be a problem. But the thing is that Vietnamese people and Chinese people are very interrelated. Our culture came from China. Where do we get chairs from? That's from Chinese people, doc. When we think about Chinese Vietnamese, it's kind of like on the scene of like if someone from Brazil moved to the U.S. and then they're Brazilian-American, right? It's like nationality at this age from the nation. Chinese Vietnamese is the same transaction, right? And today, people move from nation to nation all the time. And I think it's normal and I think it's fine. I think that like you can be culturally Vietnamese or you came there when you were two years old. Like you're gonna be culturally Vietnamese the way I feel culturally American, but my ethnic bloodline is Vietnamese. For example, Mike does not speak Vietnamese. But I'm a big shit. Yeah. You look at the camera. What if you found out, dude, you were like 20% Chinese? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What if all my Vietnamese friends refused to take 23 Vietnamese? I mean, that's not a good question because I'm so Vietnamese. I'm like so proud of you, Vietnamese. So if I found out, I might be like, ah, f*** it up a little bit. Oh. I mean, that's the thing with Vietnamese people, we were conquered so many times that we're like a little bit of everything. A little bit French, you know? Like there's randomly, like sometimes there's Japanese like you'll see, there's like Chinese. I mean, there's some. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. I got stuff all mixed together, so. Why don't we table this and do a 23 and we follow up? Okay, okay. Vietnamese people aren't scared of shit. That's what I mean. We're stupid. We don't care about school loans. We don't care about gun violence. They go come for you, Marek. They come up for you in the comments. We're crazy, dawg. The ants are fearless and I think this dish embodies it, Kim. This is why they're so fearless. Can you explain what's going on? So this is a housemaid jerky. And on the side is actually ants. Oh, I have an ant. What? There, there, there's a little buggy. Whoa. It's like an ant spice dip. Yo, you mean just, oh my gosh. You know, we did not plan that fearless segway to the ant dip. Yo, right here, it's right, literally on top of my, oh my gosh. Can you see that? This is why there were never any Vietnamese people on fear factors. Hey. But just be like, no problem. I'll be in a scare Chinese person. No! David, don't be Chinese. Those ants, man. Yo, that's really good. It's so bomb. Oh, let's, wow. Oh, VIP service. That is one of the reasons you guys just Yelp scores are so high. Yo, all the way. Whoa. It's amazing. Wow, that jerk is amazing. It really reminds me, it's kind of similar, would you say, to the Thai jerky? Tell it Malaysian jerk. No, we didn't help. That's really good. But I guess from the ant thing, we're pushing the edge today. We gotta give it some Vietnamese stereotypes. What do you guys think about the stereotype that like via people, I guess like, are ratchet? Well, cause we're fearless. It ties into the whole thing that we're fearless. We don't care. Not necessarily my family, but you know, ultimately at the end of the day, we're like, we're refugees. We came here with literally nothing. You gotta be ratchet to make it a problem. Yeah, dude. I think with like, there's a wave of like, these people who came through. And so I feel like for being these people, you're kind of seeing it as like, the second age of people who kind of have to speak out. Yeah. I think the ratchet was a lot in public settings. Like, we're just loud as f***. We're very loud. My, all the aunties, my mom, and stuff like that. I'd be like, why are you yelling? She's like, I'm not yelling. This is how I talk. Kim, you got comment because Houston is known as a ratchet place. I mean, the pretty gangster, I guess. Did you see her driver's license? No, I didn't see it. Can I see it? Oh, whoa. That's a ratchet photo. This driver's license got in a fight at a car restaurant. For sure. At a 24-hour first flight. Two in the morning after clubbing. This very driver's license was, what's that f*** looking at? You know? ABG, exactly. Cause I'm from the East Coast. So I feel like the East Coast will be in a wedding. ABGs are very L.A., that's a very L.A. I guess I would say that the Gucci shorts, Asian baby girl, but then it also was Asian baby gangster. So basically, I think at the time, it was just somebody who was the girl of a gangster and just holding it down within that world, though. We have this friend called Elizabeth Tran and she just went on this huge rant on one of our videos, being like, all these new girls, they just adopting the style. They don't know what it's like to hide guns. They don't know what it's like to talk to police. Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. They don't know any of the s***. It's just a look to them. Someone picked a way so you could look like that. Ooh. You know what it is? There's no queen Beyonce of the ABGs that can talk down on everybody. I can't, we took it out of my hair! You might have to say it was Tila's key line. Stop! No! No! She's a Nazi. Well, that'd be a representation. She wasn't an ABG. Hold on there, hold on there. She kind of was just out there and doing this crazy thing. And for a while everyone was like, okay, this is cool. And all of a sudden she became a Nazi and then things were like, okay. I gotta give you opinions on it. She was an import model. Which is an ABG? But I think an import model in ABG is not mutually exclusive. Someone like Tila or someone like Jamie to represent all of Vietnamese girls were too nuanced. You took these extremes and they're fine if you wanna fuck with them but they're not representative of the Vietnamese women I know who are real estate agents. They get all we have right now out there, right? But I mean, real briefly, I feel like a lot of it is just like cultural. Like where you grew up? What name would you grew up in? When you grew up? When high school you went to like, so I'm not gonna knock anybody for a social day whoever they want. But is there some sense that if you become like too viet, it will hurt your chances of being exposed in like the mainstream society? I think that there's like a growing second generation Vietnamese crowd coming up that we're embracing Vietnamese because it's not like taboo of being Vietnamese anymore. I think that we all have a collective sense of what is Vietnamese growing up as a Vietnamese American too which all ties us in together. You're gonna lean into being who you are whatever that is. I think we're doing it right now. Going back to the whole restaurant. This is our entryway to all the things that we know but y'all don't know yet. How do we know nowadays that there's cultural capital in owning up to your motherland? Who's in it just to come up? Because now it's a pathway? And who was like, for like you guys who was always into it from the jump? I think it's just the appreciation of it, right? Like Tuan was saying, we use the food to kind of showcase and tell a story about Vietnamese culture. Everything that we do on this menu is not pulling off Instagram or anything. We're not trying to pull it out of our ass and like, hey, this is what we want to do this year. All these have a story not within these cultures but within ourselves. So I can go and I can site something off the menu and that can be made by my mom, straight up, this is how she did it. We're not only trying to make something taste good but we're saying this is where we're coming from. We're information providers. So let's set it right before we set anything else. Oh yeah, well let's get into some of this next round of food. You guys, what are we looking at here? Because this is an amazing spread. So all these dishes are primarily brunch. You wouldn't really eat them during the dinnertime. This is something where you go with your family and they do the small pickens that you have. So we're gonna start off with this first dish. This is a ban can. These muffins, which are really interesting. We get these clay pots, small little vessels and you've seen them before. We get them from straight from the lab. And so they're going straight inside dry. And we scrape them off so that way you get a little bit of that char on the muffin. So you're gonna dip it inside that nuk chum. You can go and break up the meatball, you can dip it inside, use the vehicle as a scoop. And so inside right here is some quail egg that we cracked up inside too. Oh man, this is so good. Is that your first time having it? Yeah, I've not had this before. So let's talk about, where is everybody's parents from in Vietnam? Because it doesn't matter, right? Because they're sort of like a North, a Middle, Is your family from the North or South? The South. South as well. My family's from the North. My dad's from the North, my mom's from the South. Okay, so you won the war? Well, we were in the South later, but. All right, my mom's side was from the North. My dad's from the North and then came to the South. Has the Vietnamese-American narrative moved past the war and the provincialism or is it still there to some extent? For sure, I feel like, especially in New York, we have a lot of Vietnamese nationals that come to the restaurant and they're all from the North. For them, they're younger, they're not of the war generation. So they don't really see the heaviness or importance of the war, whereas our parents who left their country. Could they even cry? How much? Ideally, in your opinion, should people think about the war and look back on it? One time, we got flown out to this VSA thing randomly. We got out of VSA? Yeah. We got a VSA convention. I know all of them. And I remember it was crazy, because the rich family that funded it was a rich family from the South. And they gave a speech and the last thing that she said is she was just like, you guys need to go back to Vietnam and take it back over. You know what's kind of funny though, is that in a way, we are, because when you go back to Vietnam, being an American is like cool. It's like, they look at us and they go, oh, there's like another way to do things. And they're very open-minded. Like, he talks to a lot of Vietnamese people, young Vietnamese people in Vietnam. They're, we wanna learn everything there is about the world. And they're so interested in everything they have there. They have such good hearts. In a way, this is us coming back. Right, right. And it's deliciousness and like cool haircuts and tattoos and stuff like that. It's not a hostile takeover. It's just say culturally. It's a cultural takeover. Cultural and mindset kind of. Growing up in Boston, my dad's a normal in the South. So I didn't have a hostile environment. I grew up thinking that Ho Chi Minh was revolutionary in the same category as Che Guevara. So I grew up with a positive mindset with him. When I was in East L.A., it was all Southern Vietnamese folks and they were so anti-North, right? And I was like, I've never experienced this, right? It just shows how diverse and complicated the Vietnamese community is. I was a part of the BSA at Virginia Tech too. I was like one of the officers there. And so you have people and grandparents who are from the war. They're coaching you on how to think about it, right? Yeah, but they don't really think about it at all. It's like two generations down where it's just like, oh, that was my grandparents thing. That was their history. That's not my story to tell. Yes, I have affiliation with it, but I don't feel any sort of type of way against it. I'll have my parents tell me if I, for one, I didn't go and experience it personally. Guess what is this right here? Cause this is a dish that I think more people are familiar with. Yeah, so good. This is banh guon. So traditionally banh guon has been in Dachas, it's been Chinese, Vietnamese. There's a lot of Chinese instruments. Inside we have some ground pork and wood ear mushrooms. We make our house-made jau guo right there. It goes in, yeah, we make the jau guo, we make the fried shallots. And you were saying that even in North or South, they call the jau guo something different? A different word? In the North they call it jau guo. South they call it jau guo. Oh, okay. This is a classic dish. Usually if you go to a restaurant that has this, it is really good. That's the only thing you eat at the house. How much is all you guys having in your house at any given time? I usually have two. Yeah, okay, I have two. Oh, and then when you're growing up though, when you don't know how to cook, you go get white rice, you get jau guo, you get that nagee, and you cook that shit over, and that shit is one because you don't know how to cook. When you compare it to almost like, you call it like a Vietnamese fan, or what is it? I mean, it's much more fresher than Spanish. Why do you think it's a Vietnamese fan? It's like a Vietnamese fan. It is a Vietnamese fan. It is very big. When the zombie apocalypse happens, everyone's gonna be starving, but Vietnamese people will just be like having mad zah. Just like eating it like, no problem, you know, hey, what's going on? All that zombie looks bad, but like we still, we've got food, so it's all good. What else we got here? Oh yeah, so this is soy man. So this is a sticky rice that we make house made taro, taro is just a seasoned soy sauce. We make an in-house pate, we make our own lap suong, or lap chung, or in-house as well. Got some pickled scallions, and then some fried chicken thighs. Here's more, this is another delicious thing that like, you know, we got from Chinese people, lap suong. Right, in Cantonese we just call it lap chung, so it sounds almost the same word, guys. It's the same word, yeah. This is like really Vietnam right all up in here. All right, we gotta talk about the, put a rocket dog on it and then it's good. We gotta talk about the Frenchness of Vietnam. Okay, so there's always this thing that happened a lot more like a few years ago where somebody would kind of brag that they're part French, like a Vietnamese person would be like, I'm French and I'm like, how French are you? And they're like, 116th. And I'm like, I don't know, like just say about this. I'm trying to be gentle here. I mean, it's funny, I find it funny, but it's also not surprising because everyone, you know, in America, whiteness like reigns the future, right? So it's kind of like this desire to be a part of the superiority like communities. But like the whole country is like that because like we look down on Cambodians and Cambodians, because like we were chosen by the Vietnamese. You know, if you go to Vietnam, like I still like French buildings and some of that. So there is definitely like a cash to being French, unfortunately, but you know, we try to remix it. Now we have delicious dishes like this. We did have a Vietnamese friend. It wasn't Richie who once said that Vietnamese is a derivative of French. Cheese and Vietnamese is coal mine and fromage is French. Oh, so there is some cold cap that they took. Yeah, yeah, there is. I would say it's like, it's so fast. So did you guys, have you guys been to Europe? Yes. It was the first place you went, Paris. I went to Paris. I went to Paris. Oh, I went to France, I went to France, I went to France. You know what, when I went to Paris, I was sitting there and I was like, this French food is dope. But like, yo, I need some pa. So I went and found like, I had to find Vietnamese food there. It's good. Although it's funny, because they call it Chinatown. It's full of Vietnamese food. They're not there yet. They're not right now. They're Vietnamese people inside itself. Is that, is this coal? This is a Bun Boi Hanoi. So it's not a dish that is like known to be from Hanoi. This is stuff that you'll get as the breakfast item. Bun is a very, Northern Vietnamese thing. And Northern Vietnamese food is very different than, you know, it's a lot of, It's not sweet. It's not sweet. It's fresh, it's like, I don't know, like a little similar at least. So this is reminiscent of the Northern Vietnamese food and restaurants that my family does like to go to. All right, and then over here we've got, This is VVV. This is, you're saying the V rating? That's it. This is a Bun Dao Mam Tum. Mam Tum, if you guys already know, is a fermented shrimp sauce. And so you're gonna go and dip all these little goodies that we have here. We have some fried pork intestines, some fried tofu. We make this Zoi Heo in-house, which is a blood sausage. We make this Chacom, which is also a jade green rice pork sausage, and then all these left on the verge. So you're dipping, you're tasting, you're trying and dipping, and you're just going through a whole gamut. Mike, someone with only one or two Vs out of like five possible Vs, right? Mike is like two Vs. You put Mike at two Vs? What do you, how many Vs you got? I'm probably three Vs. Yeah. I'll take four, this is four. Four out of five Vs? You know what though. I'm gonna say, I'm still trying to get my fourth one. Okay, you got 3.5? I'm 3.5. Shit, I mean, if you cooked this and you served this to the people though, you got, I gotta give you an extra half point for that. Well, like I think what takes me back is that my Vietnamese is like, set my trash. Like I learned, I know the full menu of any like Vietnamese spot, but if I'm trying to go and talk to my grandma, I might say I'm gonna go and that's it. Oh, that's very Asian American. Yeah. That is very Asian. Oh, please you guys, I'm gonna follow your lead. So what I have to do is I go for the protein, then I go for the noodle, and then I go and finish it with the herbs. Now I just wanna try this jade, rice pork sausage. Wait, this is a fried intestine? Fried intestine. Shit. I didn't think that it was gonna be something that was gonna be selling a lot, but to our surprise, I think people are down for it. I think they're down for trying something new and funky, and if they don't like the mantung, then we still have to serve it with some banh bojian chow. It's that soy sauce. I like the sauce. I don't actually like the dip. It's very intense. It's a type of dip. Man, this is like another, this is like going to another country right now. I get that for sure. I mean, I definitely, people here look like they got some pieces in their passports. They got some stamps. Yeah. But also Vietnamese people come here as well, too. They really enjoy what we're doing. It's so hard to find your dishes, and they were all funny. I tend to think about diversity, not just in the sense of race and destiny, but like diversity and experience, right? Like, we're all like so different, and like, even within like the experience of moving these food, we should be able to have a diverse range of experiences pulling along to this, and there's no right or wrong. It's just like something we're wrong. Yeah, I honestly do think, as somebody who's not Vietnamese, but I spend a lot of time around Vietnamese people, I spend a lot of time around a lot of different types of Asians. The soulfulness of the Vietnamese people is something that always stands out to me. And me and Andrew talk about it, because to be honest, we come from one of the groups that is considered one of the least soulful. Since we are such a small population, there is more sense to showcase and be loud. We are always like conquered by one place or another, and this is the only time in our history that we've been able to represent ourselves, not control by the adventure of the Chinese. The Americans have won, and we're representing them. Hey, would you say that? Dude, I might have to wipe a tear. Y'all just trying to be real. Hey, I'm not gonna lie, man. You said that, like, I don't know how many interviews you did for this spot, but that shit sounded smooth as shit. Vice, eat that, vice. You can't get that shit. You won't want that. You're not ready for that. What about this right here? So that's our soy, like, so soy, sticky rice. This is something that you get for dessert, but this is tinted purple, from the eventually that we get from the latter. So these are leaves that we extract the dye from, and then that's what makes the color purple. It gets our coconut sauce on top, some mung bean, some coconut flakes, and some peanuts and sesame seeds. All right, you guys, we're nearing the end of the video. This is the last portion, and I think this is gonna be allowed, you guys, to be the most creative. I'm always in tune with the Asian American narrative, and I think for the longest time, the hits were left out of the Asian American narrative. They could play Chinese on a show or whatever like that, but I remember my friend Richie, because Richie, I do believe is from South Vietnam. Let's be honest, he's probably mixed with a bunch of stuff. He looks like half Puerto Rican, half Mexican, half Asian, right? And he goes, bro, I'm not gonna be able to play an Asian on Saturday morning TV, because they're gonna look at me and be like, what the F are you? Like, you know, for example, Crazy Rich Asians, a lot of the Asian representation that you see in mainstream media, it's not really including Southeast Asians. I think it's coming, but it's hard to say when exactly. The people are just waiting for those stories, and I think that Vietnamese people have great stories. They have amazing stories, because there's so much, you know, even the country being small, but you guys went through the range of like, in the same family, you might have a kid who went to Yale, one kid who went to jail. That is like so uncommon for other Asian groups. It's gonna go beyond the mean pages soon, but right now, at least the Vietts are taking control and being like, yo, we're using these platforms, and we're gonna represent ourselves. Like, you guys came up in a generation where there wasn't Vietnamese. You're the Got Rice. Yeah. The Got Rice generation. You're the rice boy. Rice boy. You're the rice boy. And then you get the Kevin Wynn thing, you get it. Kevin Wynn thing. What do you think about how Vietts is like, all out of the memes right now? I've gone through that transition where my brother was a part of that about rice, and I was transferred to now where it's like, memes have like Vietnamese words and stuff like that. Yeah. And that took over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All these Vietnamese letters and all, if I know Vietnamese that I'll know this, but it's surprised at how advanced the memes are. Like, they're super deep cut, right? Like for me, I see the memes sometimes because I subscribe to one of those stuff but you trade them out, I don't get it. It's like, if you know, you know. But sometimes, even when I'm in there, I'm like, dude, I don't know. I'm low key pumped out. That's kind of cool. We all kind of share the same thing. We didn't know that we knew all the same things. When someone pointed it out, it was like, that happened. And that's what makes our whole community tired. It's just like a collective memory. That was, no one told us that that was a memory, but happened to be like all our families rode like Toyota Camrys for Rollers and it seemed beige and silver in that like the same like a mat with like the massage on the driver's seat. You know, the remote with the plastic wrap on that because you don't want to touch it because it was going to go make it dirty. It's going to get more specific and it's just going to go and reinvent us. It's going to put us on a better path. Growing up, not with the means. Can you get down with the means? Are you just going to... How do you feel when you see it? They're like, what do you think? Are you kind of breaking it? Is there any sense of you're like, that's not true or you're like trying to judge the accuracy of it? When I see means, the first feeling I feel is I feel proud. And then I feel so impressed with all the mean makers. I'm like, dude, these kids are so talented and it's so clever. I'm like, who thinks of these things? So I'm super passionate. I'm really proud of myself. And that's how you know means are real because even though I'm like a little bit older than you guys, when I saw Kevin Nguyen, I was like, I know Kevin Nguyen and it's just, he never had a name before. Or maybe they called him something else. Means are like just the first step to realizing that your culture is worth talking about. Because before we didn't talk about our culture, at least not to other people. Or a lot of times we weren't even trying to do that because we were trying to like be somebody else. We were trying to be wider. We were trying to be Chinese. We're like heads down, working hard. Or yeah, or like we were just like listening to y'all rule or whatever the fuck it was. And now it's like, oh well, our own culture and whatever that is, which is usually a remix of other things, is also worth talking about. And even if you don't get it, that's the point. You don't get it because you're not one of the culture. So that's the trick, you know? But is it Kevin Nguyen a gangster or not? No, no, no. He's a party boy with gangster stuff. I could see Kevin Nguyen being a lambda. I could count women as one of the lambda. I've been in an issue that had like two blonde threads or bangs. That's more of a like, yeah, That's Kevin's older brother who went away for five years, you know? So that was mechanical, yeah. You know what I love about the memes too is that it's kind of like a harmless way of stereotyping. The difference is that the stereotype is coming from within, from our own meaning. That's what's cool about social media. It's coming out. It's not like someone else making out makes for us. Right, there's not some guy named Walter talking about me to means people. Take control of the memes. Let's take control of our stereotypes. I guess what do you guys hope for the Vietnamese-American narrative moving forward? I mean, I'm sure you guys are all contributing to it in your own ways. Mike, you're a Vietnamese-American comedian. Even though you're not necessarily like that fan where it's like, I've never seen you do that. I mean, yeah, I think it's like about telling our stories and then like doing new things. I mean, it took a while for the Korean-American community to like finally invent Korean tacos. But like that was, that is like a uniquely Korean-American experience. And I think it's only a matter of time. This is the lab for those things. You know, like all the people here at Dandy are like are doing things that eventually a new chapter is gonna be written. And I'm excited about whatever that is. I wanna see what's next, you know? And I think memes is sort of like, in some ways it's almost like the first step digitally to try to do that. And then after everybody understands what Kevin Nguyen is, then you can go on to Kevin Nguyen part two or whatever it is, you know? It's just all this whole, it's like maybe growing up, no one was like, hey, I wanna be a comedian. I'm Vietnamese. I had no one to look to to see what that looks like. Or even like a young female entrepreneur. A young female entrepreneur. My hope for the community is for everyone to continue leaning into who they are and leaning into everything that makes them unique and different and special and then also allow for everyone else to be who they are as well without judgment. I think this generation has like a lot to offer. But the one thing is this, exactly being the leaders of whatever field that you're doing, so that way the next generation doesn't feel like they're too afraid to because someone ahead of them did. So we don't have to be doctors and lawyers and whatnot because that was the safe way to earn money. That's cool if you wanna do that. That's fine, but if you really wanna do something and you're afraid to do it, and if our generation can go and have that like stand-up comedian who's gonna go on to set that tone for it, it's not as bad. And it's not as hard to do it. So that way we have a whole generation of people who wanna do what the fuck they wanna do. That's the whole goal. When the first person does it, then they can go and create that change. And that's what we're trying to do too. I'm hoping that like a lot of my generation after me, if they wanna be a cook and they're afraid to do it, then I did it. I'm okay. Yeah, it comes along with having like the reflection of role models is like helping each other. Right, I think a lot of our parents when they grew up in a time of scarcity, like they're trying to survive, there's not a lot of room to help each other as much. We have like that divide and conquer mentality. So I hope that with our generation and general ones that we do what we're doing so that we can inspire the people, but also that we help each other and support each other as well. I love that. And I'll close off by saying, going off of what you and Mike said, it's like one, I think places like DND are writing the next chapter of Vietnamese food and culture, win coffee supply as well. And yeah, and definitely like, I just hope that the younger generation can use the comfort that they grew up with and use it to push the culture. Because you're right, it was hard to push culture when it was just survival mode. But now that people are not really in survival mode, what are we going to use that comfort for? Driving mode. Yeah, not just surviving, thriving. I think just the only thing I could say is just that I learned from the Vietnamese community how to grow it up was just to be fearless. Aren't you guys, thank you so much for joining us on that episode of Fun Bro's Food and Culture. I don't know, I think this was, I haven't watched every Vietnamese American piece on any YouTube. I think this is the best one I've ever made. I don't know. I think so. I think so, yeah. Maybe the only one. This was an amazing discussion and I think people should have these discussions more. But this is always something that we want to do on our channel is to just have these open, fun, no holds barred, like no one's going to get offended, we're all just here. And we're all on the same page of what we want this video to do. So I'm going to watch this and relate. Yeah, yeah. And I hope it inspires a lot of people. So thank you everybody for it. Thank you for having us. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you to D&D. Check out Asian on Asian. Come by D&D. I think it's the best Asian podcast I've heard. It's the best. Stop by D&D. We're doing brunch. We're doing dinner service. Follow us on Instagram. She has a coffee company. Click below. Click below. Yeah, subscribe. 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