 experience, but especially the original, and that's the trinity. The Trin. The Trin. The Trin. Yeah, so it is, my introduction to the Trin was basically, there's some people that know that are more tied into it than I was, but it is one of these things where supposedly it came out of a bag seed that came from Trinity County that was traded to a glass blower that was traded to a glass blower for some pipes, and they sprouted that seed in the Eugene glass blowing area, a seam, and it sort of started spreading around that little group, and it was kind of a dinosaur leaf plant, some people got skunk off it, some people got burnt rubber, some people got like a sweet pine, it seemed to vary, and it got really popular in Oregon, and then everyone lost it and it disappeared for a long time, but it's a cool plant.