 So I'd like to formally start the EOSCUB week 2020. My name is Tiziana Ferrari. I'm proud of being the project coordinator of EOSCUB and to welcome all of you for this virtual conference that we originally planned to have in the beautiful Car Sruet. Unfortunately, this is not possible, but we have a magnificent, I think, auditorium, a collection of offices around Europe and perhaps beyond Europe. So we're really, really happy to have this conference happening as we originally planned. And we are very grateful. And we would like also to thank the colleagues from KIT who have been working with the communication and event team to have the meeting happening physically. So welcome again to all of you. We are very happy to have a very rich program. We started already yesterday for those who attended the consultation day with the Executive Board of European Open Science Cloud. We have two days ahead of us today and tomorrow with a rich program of 18 sessions and a closing plenary tomorrow. We have more than 700 registered the participants to the various sessions. So we are grateful that you can be here and attend regardless of the difficulties that we're all facing and sharing. So with this, welcome to everyone. I'd like to give the floor to Sara. We'll give some information about the event and the participation rules. Thank you, Titiana. Good morning, everyone. So I will just remind you a couple of housekeeping for today. So this event is recorded. So all the sessions also will be recorded. And the recordings will be made available at the end of the meeting together with all the presentations. Some of the presentations are already linked to the agenda. So you can already check them out. I remind you to please do not activate your microphone and videos unless you are requested by the host. And if you don't see the buttons at the bottom of the Zoom window, just move the mouse on that window and the buttons will appear. If you have problems with the audio, try to switch off your video. And usually it works. For this session, please use the Zoom chat to enter any questions or comments that you have for the speakers. Finally, I just want to remind you that there is a poster and demo competition ongoing. So it started the last week. Today is the deadline. So if you haven't done it yet, please cast your vote by today, 5.30 p.m. Summertime. You have the links on this slide and the links are also available in the agenda page. And that's it from my side of the channel. Thank you, Sarah. You will see how to switch from one session to the next at the end of this opening plenary. So stay tuned for that. And it's now my turn to introduce our two speakers and invite them to our virtual podium for the day. The first speaker will be Per Oster, USCUB project director. And the second speaker will be Lina Munari from the European Commission. Per Oster is a director at CSC, the IT Center for Science in Finland, director for business insights and growth. And Lina Munari is the deputy head of unit. You know Lina very well, of course, many of you. She is in charge as deputy of the infrastructure and ESC at DigiConnect. So please, Per, the floor is yours. Okay, thank you, Titiana. And welcome to everybody. So I will try to give you an overview here on the journey that we are on towards the European Open Science Cloud. And what the USCUB project is about and our contribution to this major effort in Europe that we have. So USCUB to give the kind of corporate slide here, there is a massive project, large budget on 30 million. There is more than 100 or more than 150 staff involved from over 100 partners here. So the EGI Foundation in Netherlands is coordinating the project. And the core partners here comes, of course, from the, there are these 20 digital research infrastructures, the e-infrastructures, EGI, EUDOT, CIGI and the Indigo Data Cloud. So we have a joint offering of services, software and data together with a number of other research infrastructure and e-infrastructures that have come together and start to implement EOSC. So the reason, yes? I'm very interrupting you for a second. If you are navigating through the slides, we are still seeing the introductory one. So maybe you have to check. Okay. Then we can see what's, this is an issue that sometimes happen here in, if I stop sharing and start from the beginning again, it might help. This is an issue that I've seen before with Zoom. Now you should see a slide that talks about mission. Is that correct? I cannot see any slide. Okay. Do you want me to share your slides? Yes, we can try that. That's interesting. I will stop my sharing here. Oh, okay. I get an advice here from my colleague in Finland. Okay. I think we can see Sarah's slides. You are, I think on the right slide. So I think we can proceed with that. Okay. It's a, yes. Can you get it in, oops. I have to come back to that. So I see it also. So next slide, please. So then there is a clear mission here. The EOSCUB projects mobilizes providers of pan-European relevance offering services, software, and data for advanced data-driven research and innovation. These resources are offered via the hub. The integration and management system of the European Open Science Cloud, acting as a European-level entry point for all stakeholders. And here, the keywords here, integration and management system of the European Open Science Cloud, and acting as an entry point for all stakeholders. So this is really what we try to do here now. The e-infrastructure is together with a number of thematic providers and other service providers. Next. So this is organized in a way that we were trying to have a nine key exploitable results and innovation roles here. So it is built from services, what we call the EOSC service portfolio. We have a EOSC portal and marketplace where these services are presented to the wide community, together with training courses and material, interoperability and integration guidelines. In addition here, there is a digital innovation hub and I will come back to this and explain it. We have a special activity to contribute to the rules of participation that is also worked on in the EOSC working groups. The service management system, all the processes and everything that is needed to really build something so complex as EOSC and an internal services in the hub portfolio and that is the baseline services that used to run a number of the basic functionality and that other service providers can make use of to make their services integrated with EOSC. And then it's about business and sustainability models. How do we take this into a continued future? Next please. So EOSC hub and the portfolios here we have you see in the bottom the hub portfolio and this is the internal and that is to serve the hub operation and service providers and enable the EOSC operation. And in this way help other services to integrate, other providers to integrate the services with EOSC. In the top it is the EOSC service portfolio and that is the external facing portfolio that everybody that is available for anybody and that should be of direct benefit for researchers, common and thematic services and also of course for service providers there is an indirect benefit here. And as always it is to enable excellent research and try to do things here that fits researchers best. We could see a development with where we might have regional hubs. We have now regional projects and thematic projects and other groups that are providing services. Next please. So if we look on this top part of this we have the key thing here is the thematic services where that addresses specific research community and are provided by specific research communities typically in combination with an E-infrastructure provider. And these come stand from S3's National Project International Initiatives. In addition you have the services provided by typically the infrastructures EGI and EUDAT and Indigo Data Cloud that are the common services that provide generic functionalities that can apply to multiple domains. They come from these technology providers here and the organizations that are also behind and building the infrastructures of EGI and EUDAT that's the ones who are really delivering the services of course. And that are components. Please stay here a bit. Go back. Thank you. So that are the components in the hub portfolio and here you find the things like cloud compute, containers, notebooks, orchestrator, data repository, data transfer, data share, take data sync and share more. The basic things that are sort of for general use and almost anybody can make use of some part of it. Next please. And in the hub portfolio in the bottom layer if you're thinking about two slides back there you have these fundamental things where we have a lot of things that are brought from the infrastructures and see how does it fit in the EOS context and what is necessary here to really build a strong service delivery. So here of course, it is the authentication authorization infrastructure. We have the portal and the marketplace, accounting, help desk monitoring, order handling, messaging, all these basic things need to be there. And then other external services can plug into this. Next please. So and these things are then collected and now described. So for anybody interested you can pick up the integration handbook for service providers. Describe what it means to integrate with EOS through this hub. And there is the audience here is of course existing and future EOS service providers. This handbook covers the overview of EOS and EOS Hub onboarding on the EOS portal. How do you get your services there and how do you adopt the system, service management and so on. Integration with Federation Services, managing of research data, alignment with service management system and the future of the EOS Hub how this is taken into the continuation. And you can find it search for it in Synodo there and you will find it has it there also. So registered piece of data. Next please. So the key thing here that was in the project from beginning of course to get the research community engaged and really explore what are the benefits here of getting together both with the or systematic service provisioning and I think coming together with other research communities and share experience and turn from each other. So in the beginning from the beginning in the project we have had humanities or research communities from the humanities, physical sciences, earth sciences and biological sciences involved. And all these thematic services have integrated with EOS core services. So if you look in details here it's 40 technical integrations done and in the resulting here in 30 services that have been published in the EOS portal. Next please. So we asked to highlight a few of these real success stories. We have the language research, Clarin. So it's European research infrastructure for large resources and technologies. They have double their visitors and a new collaboration with the European IHR during the course of the project. There is the European Network for Earth System Modelling. So it's a large number of countries now that are involved in this. It's an open coast, coastal circulation on demand forecast and there are now users in 23 countries and we have a quite what already was quite well established VNMR, a worldwide infrastructure for NMR and structural biology. Also increased their number of users and the amount of simulations submitted here on the federated infrastructures. And a lot of countries also beyond Europe here is using this infrastructure. And we have the orchestrator here, the Dynamic on Demand Analysis Service, Doudas. So there are four new communities within high energy physics, astroparticle and gravitational webs. It's a huge amount of jobs that have been submitted here. And the large, this is a very distributed infrastructure with over 1,000 clusters around the globe really involved in this. We have Daria, EU Digital Research Infrastructure, the Arts and Humanities and also double the visits of their portal and sites and also attracted to more customers for their data repository. Earth Observation Pillar, a set of services in the field of Earth Observation. And have done a lot of computing and utilized a service from Theradue and the amount of data here, Earth Observation data have increased in the integration of the services. Next please. So just to show that this is now, these thematic services really become mature services that can respond also to very urgent cases like the COVID-19 research and that is now initiated due to the present situation. And I can just mention that they are this team now around the HADOC and VNMR team is around in several collaborations here from drug screening and protein-protein interactions. Next please. So there were thematic services, they were there from the beginning. In addition from the start of the project, we had what we call competent centers with the aim to integrating research infrastructure service with e-infrastructure services. So these comes from biological sciences, environmental sciences and physical sciences. So there was a number of competent centers here initiated to co-design user assessment, training and service delivery. So all these eight have successfully piloted EOSCAB services and there was in total 19 services here integrated with the general community services, the general services that I talked about previously and they have resulted in a enhancement of these already existing infrastructures and services. Next please. So the competent centers, when services now have been integrated, they four of them and have been taken to the portal include plus three cloud services. So it's the Marine Argo Discovery, the iSCAD portal, disaster mitigation, fusion and three LXE related cloud from Chestnut, CEC, EMBL, EBI, also including services there for working with sensitive data, for example, which is a very interesting and growing need. They are now available on the portal and can be found there. Next please. So that was the communities that were integrated and part of the project from the beginning, but that is just the scratching the surface, of course, of all kind of research that could make use of EOSCAB and the future use and that all kind of research that are taking place in Europe. So we have in the project also what we call an early adopters program. So there have been two calls resulting in 13 pilots and 75 planned integration with EOSCAB services. And here we find the supporting fair data, discoverability inclined clinical research, Earth observation, Open AIDA lab platform for cloud computing and material science and towards global federated framework for open science cloud and bring also other continents into the EOSCAB and make use of it. The MSU that is ocean observation that I've taken part in the project here. EOSC DevOps framework and virtual infrastructure for Enbrie Fair common fair data services. Next please. So the pilots continue with stars for all, planned phenotyping, open bio maps, data management service, VESPA cloud, the message AIX Globium, which is about the future energy system, Agi Infra virtual research environment to support our agriculture and food research communities, integration of toxicology and risk assessment services into the EOSCAB marketplace. So here a lot of very, very different research areas and type of services have been explored, I should say, to be integrated and come to the portal also eventually hopefully. Next please. And if it doesn't stop there, so with communities. So there were all the different research communities from the beginning in the project. We also, how do we bring industry in and looking then on the vehicle of a digital innovation hub, which is a larger initiative from the European Commission, how to bring academic research to industry and get the interaction and innovation possibilities there. So we have started an integrated digital innovation hub driven by EGI, Indigo Data Cloud and EODAP together with three of key partners in the project here. And that builds on this EU initiative. And we have taken also, of course, these partners have years of experience working with industry and that taken into this. So this is to bring in another type of interest and potential project. So it started with six business pilots selected during the project preparation and it has been open for more here. And the area is really intentioned really to that this should be persist beyond the life of any particular support project here. So next please. So take a glimpse on what we have been doing here. It has been the action, the seaport things, base weather data for Draco Observatory, the cyber hub, bot mitigation engine, sports, smart video analysis, furniture, enterprise analytics. I will not go into the details of this, but you understand it's a very wide and very different kind of things. Next please. And there are new things onboarded here that artificial intelligence for rare diseases diagnosis, blockchain for university certificates. And there is something in the pipeline here that I think now is actually about to start or might have started already video coding and compression with BBC R&D. So next please. So now you saw all the different communities and initiatives that we have brought together, supported, integrated their services and everything should come together in the EOS portal. And the EOS portal here, the delivery channel connecting the demand side and supply side. And we should here showcase the potential of integrated and coordinated access to European services, data and other scientific outputs. So bear with me now because there is started a new project EOS can enhance that are now doing rapid development of the EOS portal. So what I present here might not look the same when you take a look on it next week when you're looking into the portal. But next please. So in the portal here, you find the core services from EOS hub. There is a unified service catalog and marketplace right at the moment we speak here, 250 onboarded services. And you can browse them there, you can order services. You have my services and user space there. It is a website content with the information about EOS. There is the AI to integrate the help desk, the machinery behind managing the processing of orders, monitoring of services. And next please. So and in addition, there are a number of processes around this. So there is onboarding process to how do we continue to expose more services in the EOS portal. And there are services reviewed and discussions there with providers of course. There are incident and service request management so that if things happening, we can support the services to come back to normal procedures again. And then typically what you call customer relationship management service order and customer relationship. That first contact and services, how they should get in touch with the portal, how they should get there. And all of this is of course in the compliant with the fitness and standard. And I think here we're talking about the portal, but I think the boat and in the top left corner here brings the thinking here to think about it more like a port than a portal. It is a port where services are delivered, where users can come and process are there. It's a whole machinery eventually that will start to build the infrastructure that will be European Open Science Cloud. And there you see and also a number of processes that are there in need to run and operate the whole thing. So, and with this I wanted to show how we have built the whole machinery or the first taking the first steps towards the machinery of that will be EOSC. And we have brought the number of, you could say the early adopters here that have been willing to jump into the water. Try if this is add something for the research communities, if this is really beneficial for them. And in a way you could say that we are, if you remember the old from the beginning of 90s, a business management classic on how to sell high technology product to the mass markets. It's crossing the CASP, where it's easy to do with the early adopters and then there is a CASP before you get to the mainstream. And the different step in a way are there. But now we need to take the next steps to really reach out to all research in Europe. And I'm quite convinced with the force now and where we have the support from our governments and from the European Commission and more and more awareness within the research community. I think EOSC will actually have the potential to bring big science for every researcher. Thank you. Thank you Per for this enlightening presentation. And while Lena starts and news lights are brought online, I'd like to say that we will take a question and answers at the end of the session. And also to respond to the chat discussions. For those who were at the consultation day yesterday, there was a very fruitful conversation on what would be the business proposition of EOSC, the right to balance of standardization, interoperability and actual integration. So I think today and tomorrow in the coming sessions and with Per presentation, we have seen how interoperability guidelines and the mechanism for federation can in the end empower real and users with a semantic services to really get on board and get value for their own science. So thank you, Per. I think the slides are ready for Lena. Lena, I already introduced from DigiConnect. Please, the floor is yours. Okay, good morning, everybody. I'm not sure if you can hear me and if you can see me. So before I go further, can you confirm? We can see you and hear you very well. Very good, okay. So thank you very much, Luciano, for this introduction. And thank you very much for Pat for highlighting what the EOSC help project, one of our flagships as you can imagine from our portfolio has achieved over the last nearly three years. I was at the honor of being the first project of this project and I remember how many times I've read the description of work. So I do remember all these things from the description of work and I'm so happy to see they're all coming together. And I hope that also, you know, considering that quite well, very open format because I can see there are people joining from Georgia. There are people joining from different parts of Europe and the world probably it is, even though we are in this very highly unusual circumstances and we sort of miss all the human bus that goes around these kind of conferences when we organize them on site. We also probably see what are the advantages of having this kind of open format in order to be able to communicate and outreach to as many people as possible. So from the commission point of view, clearly those who participated yesterday to the consultation days to saw all these presentations from different characters. Now at the governor's board, particularly in the executive board who are being working very hard in order to advance on all those working groups that have been put in place in order for AOSC 2.0 so to say COVID beginning of next year. I was asked to address this audience we're talking about the current and future all of the infrastructures. And having come to this boat, so to say, through the infrastructures, at this point, I can, yes, you can move on to the next slide if you want to. So, okay, sorry, because we are having remote progress of these slides by Zara, so I'm not doing it on myself. So just to highlight the fact that the infrastructures are a course that have been put in place and the one that also has come from. This obviously comes from a work for 2016-2017. So we are 2020. Sorry, 2020 now. And so a lot of water has passed under the bridge and the situation when we drafted those work programs and when we drafted those calls were obviously very different than they are now. So at that time, there was a talk about a lot of defragmentation. There was a talk about a lot of need for consolidation of the infrastructures and the research infrastructures. And this was the origin of these calls. And I must say that at this point, having got, please go back in. I was like, I'm going with too fast. I will tell you when to go back. Yeah, so at this point, we are at the point that as to see what we can do when we put a big call out there, putting a lot of pressure, a little bit of gentle pushing towards consolidation, that we see what is possible. So we see all these added services that have been put in place or those trials, even a little bit wandering already towards the industry participation, et cetera. And all this is very useful at this point when we are actually also getting to more ingrips with how the AOSC will look in the future. So obviously in 2016, 2017, there were all kind of declarations and things, but nobody really knew how AOSC would look like. Already the famous court of patron's server from the executive board in the beginning of when the current governance, interim governance structure started at work is that AOSC is like that elephant when all these blind men that tried to understand how it looks like. So clearly we've come over the time to understand much better how AOSC look like, start having views of how should it look like, what are the missing parts. And but the most important thing that we still have the elephant, it's still there. And it's not gone anywhere. It's still there. It's becoming more and more visible and as we speak. So I won't go back too much on though. I'll call it in this slide, AOSC 1.0. If I think of the first phase of AOSC as set by the council of ministries that we have time until the end of this year to advance with the interim governance and the portfolio that we have been funding these activities from since a couple of years, both portfolio which is currently held together obviously as you know by DIG Connect and DIG RTD. Jointly the AOSC calls and managed by these two DIGs. The current state of play has brought us to the point that we obviously what is new compared to what was not there before is that we have an emerging governance. So this was a requirement from the council of ministries to set this up. And obviously all these kind of endeavors they do need governance. You cannot with your best intentions to try to run this level of operations unless there's governance. Governance with people and governance means also a lot of interest. Governance means a lot of opinions. The governance means a lot of discussions. And I think it's all needed for AOSC because we all need to sit around the table together. Every now and then argue. Every now and then say, find out what are the priorities, why, et cetera in order to advance. There's no other way. And I don't think there's nothing wrong with that. So as you know, the governance will be done. There's, we've already heard from yesterday's speakers but if you were not there yesterday, there's European partnership in cooking. This is an instrument in Horizon Europe, which is possible. It's not an instrument that you can choose. You have to propose to the commission to have this European partnership. And you have to show the added value of this kind of partnership in addition to what it would be if it was business as usual. So what do we gain more if we sign a real partnership with these stakeholders? And as you know for this, the draft is about to be published by the end of May together with the other European partnerships that are on the table. In order to have this European partnership, we need a partner. It could be any entity, but for this case that the interim governance has decided that there is no such entity that could take up this role of representing the AOSC towards the commission on its own. So it's been decided to set up an association and its own right, which at the same time at parallel is also being prepared together with the partnership. All this happens very much at the same time, parallel. Requires a lot of work and coordination, which is evident at this point. There's no other way of doing everything at parallel. Very important is the strategic research and innovation agenda, which goes together with the partnership. So once the partnership has been accepted, obviously at that point it becomes the base legal document between the commission and the partner, so to say in this case it would be the AOSC association. But what will stay and what will be then the future roadmap for what is this partnership going to do is this SRIA, the strategic research and innovation agenda, which is also being prepared. We aim or the members of the governance who are in charge of this part of the work will hope to open it up for consultation during September so that the community would have a clear view of what is being proposed and also obviously complimenting and giving their suggestions. Because the AOSC is obviously not only about these few entities that are now currently preparing it, the AOSC is for Europe, the AOSC is about Europe. And this is why it's very important that also the strategic research and innovation agenda reflects the view of Europe about the stakeholders that we have around the table in the larger sense. About the sustainability, there is, you've seen all these documents that have been going with the very obnoxious names. It started with a strawman who has, which has now developed into a tinman and suddenly changes gender and it becomes at the end an iron lady. So this will be the overall sustainability report about how AOSC will sustain itself over the coming years, which is also gonna be open for consultation. And finally, it is aimed that around October, the association becomes operational and the iron lady report is completely finalized. So this is what I call the AOSC 1.0. This is all the way that we've come up with from the beginning of the time, so to say, with the infrastructures from the connect side, but also, of course, the business infrastructures from the ITV side, plus all the others who are around what we call open science and the aim to establish a new science company. Now we can go on, so please finish. So AOSC in Horizon, obviously very creatively, the new program which follows Horizon 2020 is called Horizon Europe. So you can see there is continuity. And as well, I would say there's continuity, of course, in our investment. So currently what is in progress, you know, that from the digital connect side, we are in charge of these last two calls that out, which have been published and actually the deadline has been extended until mid 18th of June. There's little typo, by the way, in Fiosco 07-2020, of course, is the name of the 07 call. And we'll complete the evaluation of these two calls. The text of these two calls is, the work program text is already very lengthy, so I'm not going into detail, but I'm sure that most people around in this call would know what these two calls are aiming at and what is the contact. And we would aim for the projects that emerge from these two calls start in January 2021 late. So this is to say, as well, that even though the contact will be postponed a little bit, it's not been, it doesn't affect the final outcome for the deadlines of when these projects will be signed and start. Also important Council of Ministers at the time, when they gave a go-ahead for Fiosco 1.0 to continue in the interim phase until 2020, I said that we still have to, obviously, assess a little bit the progress by the time their first phase comes to an end, but this is also being prepared by the Ersk governance, supported by their secretariat. And I understand as well that there's a question that has been sent to ask related projects on how we have fared in this first phase. So the Ersk 2.0, so to say if I might call it that way, that starts in 2021. So the new phase in Horizon Europe, where are we in planning? Obviously, in June, we will have, like in all parts of the Horizon Europe work programme, the preparations have started at the orientation level. There's gonna be the first discussion with member states in June on the first Horizon Europe orientations. And from our perspective, we obviously rely much, very much on what we have been seeing coming up from the partnership proposal, the initial elements of the STRIA, because these will be the ones that will guide very much the progress in the coming years. There's gonna be consultation towards the first work programmes, recent innovation days, as long as I can see, are still going to be held in September. And of course, the strategic research and innovation agenda. So to have the first calls launched in 2021. Obviously, this year is very particular for many ways. We don't just have the multi-annual financial framework. We don't have any of these programmes yet finalised. We don't have the final budget for Horizon Europe. But this is obviously, by the time the EU budget and the research budget have been defined, only at that point, money can be allocated to specific programmes like Horizon Europe. But nevertheless, of course, we go ahead and the final sums will be then decided by the time we get there when the financial decisions have been made. Okay, sorry, go ahead. Okay, so going to the inference, what is the take-off point? Take-off point, so to say. I'd say without the inference, we would not have anything that Per just has shown you in his presentation. EOS Club is one project, it's massive. It's not only about the portal, even though this is often the one that people see as the most visible part, especially if you come from completely outside. You understand that there's a lot of work being happening at the background, whether it's technical specifications, whether it's real use cases, whether it's trying to have the first users to adopt the services customised and et cetera, plus all the technical work that goes. And it's also very much as a baseline for the EOS 2.0 core, as we call it. In our portfolio in Connect, we have EOS Cloud, we have OpenAir, advanced currently, Freya, which is doing persistent identifiers. We have Okra, which is trialling the commercial services of procurement. We have also EOS CanHance, which is currently looking at how to improve and make it even more workable than the portal that's there, which actually came out very early, much earlier than it was foreseen, due to obviously different kind of decisions that were made that at the time there were political declarations about EOS. It was also considered to have something which people can immediately see what is EOS. So the portal is there, but as you've seen also in the presentation that the EOS Hub. And EOS is not only about the potential. The EFRAs have been participating to different working groups of their executive board, I think, particularly the architecture, but also the other rules of procedures, participation, sorry, are those amongst. And they are very active partners for consulting and for dissemination of their results. And I think if we didn't have this current project which are from our perspective, very much centred on the influence, we would not have this glue. We have a lot of different items, we have a lot of different issues, so to say to solve for the day, about the data interoperability, about the service provision, about the authentication, about the need for different kind of services, whether they're generic or thematic. Without the current portfolio of our projects, we would not have an overview of what this service infrastructure can do when it's done, in real terms, when it's being implemented. So it's been very, very useful and gives us much more confidence to go ahead, obviously, with the next stage. As I said already, we have been piloting commercial services free industry participation through the digital innovation hubs, plus we have the initial use cases, which as you can see even in very highly volatile let's say uncertain times, as in the current pandemics, we see how these services can also be quickly adopted and used by the communities for research purposes, like as we do now for the COVID-19. Also, the influence and the project have in a way, of course, created the sort of baseline for the core and exchange. I just use, it doesn't really matter what they're called now, whether they're generic services, whether they're thematic services, whether we talk about the marketplace, that's just the flavor of how people want to call things. But we still know that we need this core and we need some sort of marketplace or exchange where services can be discovered. The data can be discovered, can be combined, can be customized and in general made discoverable, but also obviously for different research users, help them in their daily work and also validate science and make it reproducible. So I must say that at this point, we can see that the consolidation that I referred to in the beginning is becoming evident. So the infrastructures clearly are still as we understand that even though in the same way as the EU is an international or European organizations, we still have member states. Of course, in this AOSQ world, we start having AOS with a lot of common elements, but of course, there are still individual organizations who keep on doing what they do and try to do it as well as possible. And I think this is also a little bit the key ingredient for what is the next step that we need everybody around this table. So Nassara, I can go to the next one. So where would be the landing point? I mean, in AOS 2.0, so from my perspective, the infrastructures continue to be valuable actors in and for AOS, considering that they have tremendous experience, not only from the projects that we have been funding, but also from the time before, they are able to encompass and to bring together a huge amount of stakeholders and act like the glue between these stakeholders, trying to understand what are the needs? Where do we, what can we step in? How can we improve these processes? How can we improve the work of these in-line users, so to say, that use our services and struggling with different kinds of problems every day that might and can be helped by different technological solutions and customized offer that can be provided? Of course, you all heard about the web of fair data. This is sort of the new kid in the block. It's probably not the new kid as so yesterday from the presentation of Karper Lubin that he was describing the web of fair data, like being the twin sister of the infrastructures. I would say that it's probably a twin sister, but I would say that it's probably a new kid in the block because clearly, obviously all this DNA of the data that needs to be sequenced if I may use the COVID terms these days can be, needs to be made, this work needs to be done as well. So all the work about the making sure that the data becomes more fair, it becomes more open, it is interoperable, it has persistent identifiers, it is easily accessible and can be combined, it's necessary. So for me, I see this, there was also one of those sort of metaphors in the beginning has between the yin and yang. I still think yin and yang is one way to present these things, but I also think that it's just the natural cause of things, you know, the services and the infrastructure probably much more mature at the time it started. And now we see that there's a lot of work that needs to be done under the motor cab, so to say, to make the data, which is the fuel for these services, it's also fair, also more usable. So as clearly we need to show the added value, we're not doing this just because we like it, we don't do this only because we think that, you know, we, this is what we started, and this is what we have to go on. We have to show what is the added value. And I think the process like Ioskab is also showcasing what can be done, what is the added value when you provide these services and how can you actually really showcase the difference for an individual researcher or research group, or when they have access to the services data and the other technical interoperability and tools that come out from this process. We need more rewards and incentives, of course, both for using Iosk, but also for making the data fair, for highlighting the individual input of the researchers and also their progress towards making data fair. Because as we know, currently researchers are mainly awarded by publication. We would like to see that also the effort of sharing and making the data also more accessible and fair and open is rewarded. So then I've written their flexible approach to cater for future that's not certain. So we never know what future brings, nobody could imagine that we are in the middle of pandemics in during this time. And I think we should not be scared by that. I think the uncertainty means that we're going something towards something new. I would like to highlight that there are many actors. We've moved from the consolidation of the infrastructures and this infrastructure towards much more wider stakeholder base. And as we see, if you have more actors, we need a bigger table. So we don't necessarily need two tables to have different people sitting around different tables and discussing who's table is actually bigger and more important. I think we just need a bigger table for all. And I think only by this way we can see it. So my final line would be that we are really doing this for the greater good of Europe. We see that there's can be really a precursor of something much bigger than currently is available for scientists and also for the citizens and the societies at lunch when they see the results of science. And I don't think that anybody should be intimidated by the fact that we haven't sort of solved the problem in a couple of years. It is an enormous challenge. And I think the journey is as important that is the outcome. So therefore I wish everybody a fantastic time during these two days in this EOSCUB week dedicated on very, very specific panels that can discuss these issues. And I'm sure that together we will come back it again next year or in a couple of years time and can mark much more progress. And I would also like to hear your views, of course, from your perspective, where do you see? What are the info? So this is my final point. So where do you see yourself sitting in the future context? So thank you very much. Thank you, Lina. I'm conscious about time. So unfortunately, I think we want to have time for interaction with the audience. But if you have questions from the participants, please type these in the chat window. We will make sure that Lina and the project can respond to your questions and report it back at the closing gallery. So we wanted to ask a question to both a pair from the project point of view and Lina from our EC point of view. The question is how the infrastructures can improve or increase their support to EOSCUB and how they should the change in their operations and the new scenario where many are around the table? So just a sentence because we needed to start to be next session in two minutes. Per? Oh, if you ask, I think the importance here is of course that the engagement of various research communities and that really, really continue that work that is the and reach out to more, they're a big crowd of researchers, individual researchers now that I see as the most important thing here really for the next phase. Because we have quite clear understanding on the technical machinery behind it's a lot of work but that is work to do. The other thing requires more thinking and also be smart here in how to really reach out. Yes, I'd like to emphasize what Per has mentioned as a key point for the project. What we have learned and I know there are people in the audience that are working with Somatic services and music communities and the competent centers outreach, promotion of the services supported to end users, training our key elements as important as the integration part and that's important to bring impact to science and society at large. We will learn how this has been successfully achieved in the two success stories that we will highlight tomorrow in the closing period. So definitely this is something we are learning from the project now that we are in the third year. So, Lina, to you, how would we change in operating as infrastructures according to the new scenario you have presented? Well, how would you change? I mean, it's not really up to me to say how would you change? I think the best way is to understand that this is a living animal. I think a humankind as we now see during COVID is very adaptable, but it also needs to adapt in order to continue. And I think this is the only way forward. So, I think the work so far has been excellent. I do not, but I never say that you should rest on your laurels. I think you should always aim to be better, always aim to work further because you are part of the service culture that comes with the Elks. And so I don't see necessarily that there is a lot that would need to change in terms of, you know, for the goals to be achieved. No, I think we just need to believe that we are actually going towards something which is always gonna serve the researchers better and something that is going to serve Europe's needs better. And so, yes, and we are not doing it, obviously. The famous quote that we are not doing it because it's easy, but we do it because it's difficult even though it's fantastic cliche, but I think it holds very well in this place as well because we are doing something which at the utmost is actually very, very difficult to do well and to do so that we can really see things coming. But that doesn't prevent us from trying. Thank you, thank you, Lina. And I see questions in the chat window. So maybe, Lina, you can tap in the chat briefly. There are complex questions. I don't think we have the time in order to switch to the next session, but maybe you can take a minute to respond to your question, Lina. So I think in your presentation, you asked what is your view and how the infrastructures are adapting. So perhaps Per and I can take also a minute to respond to this question and I'd like to bring here the EGI point of view. So we see from our experience in operating in EOSCAB, EOSCAB is an opportunity to increase the range of scientific disciplines that are being engaged in and also in a way an ability to serve many more user communities and to also be more visible towards research communities. And in a way, we are adapting by having stronger collaborations with the research communities, by having more integrated provisioning, so more than just infrastructure, moving to platform and software as a service to provide specific capabilities for user communities. So having an ability to contribute to the service part of your vision. You mentioned the FAIR data, the web of FAIR data and the services. We see ourselves as providers and more and more supporting the entire life cycle of our research experiment. Thanks to this, the stronger collaborations with research communities. FAIR. Yeah, may I take the liberty to pick up on something because I've seen in the chat here, in the chat discussion on data, what is EOSCAB with the focus on data and we heard in presentations and talks yesterday, for example, the web of data is used and I see in the chat, there is a concern but where is the computing? And I think this is something, it's a very important understanding here that yes, it is very much focused on the data and we have made a lot of things to move towards open data and FAIR data but data is fine but without capabilities to do something with the data, it is pretty useless. So we need all the services including computing and other high level services to do things with the data and this is, if we call it open services then, to move towards that and we agree on standards on things we can get into operable services and so on. This is really a need to be part of EOSCAB, of course. So it is need to be a web of data and capabilities to do something with the data which includes computing, of course. So that is for me totally obvious and can't be rounded in any way or moved around in any way. Thank you, thank you, Per. I see from the chat a few questions from Dina that we don't have the time to take but important questions from Stelius and others what will be the key priorities for the coming work program. I think you've mentioned these, there will be consultation and strategic research and innovation agenda to be defined so that there is work in progress till we reach that point. And also Raymond emphasized the importance of research grants which are the funding stream towards user communities specific research projects at national European level. A plea for combining these funding streams and processes in funding research will be asked in order to make sure that we can have the proper sustainability structures in place and the real ability to use services. I'd like to thank you for your presentations, both of you and also our audience. We had, yeah, we reached more than 300 participants. I think Sara now needs to give a few instructions on how to join the next session. So thanks again from all of us and to Sara to rope up the session. And thank you to Tiana and thanks to you for the moderation of this interesting plenary. So as for everybody, as you can see on the slide, so now in three minutes actually, so probably I ask the chairs of the next session to take two or three extra minutes more at least to give the time to people to move it to the other rooms. We have three different rooms. So in this room, we will have the fair certification of repositories and other data services session. So if you're interested in this session, you should stay here. For the EOSCUB contribution to the EOSCUB architecture, the link is on the slide. It's also in the chat and also in the agenda as well as for the impact of EOSCUB on science communities. So for this room one, room two, you need to leave this Zoom and enter the new one without needing any password. So that's it. Thank you very much and I wish you all a fruitful day. Thanks a lot. Thank you everyone. Goodbye, have a good day. Thank you very much, bye bye.